One Shot Dead- 5 Wounded- At Oakland Vigil Against Violence
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, June 24, 2010, 6:18 AM
One 19 year-old woman was shot dead and fiver others were wounded after gunmen opened fire on a vigil against violence in Oakland last night.
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Two of the shooting victims are in critical condition.
Inside Bay Area reported:
Nineteen-year-old Rachael Green held her high school diploma in her hands June 15. One week later she died after being shot during a candlelight vigil for a classmate who was killed just days before.
Gunmen opened fire on the group gathered in West Oakland at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday, killing Green and wounding five people.
The shooting happened in a parking lot of the Acorn apartment complex in the 1100 block of Eighth Street, about a half-block from where the Oakland police union held a news conference Monday. The union had denounced city plans to lay off police officers, saying it would make the city more dangerous.
Police said Green was an Oakland resident. Wounded in the attack were a 14-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy, a 15-year-old boy, a 16-year-old boy and an 18-year-old man. All live in Oakland except the 16-year-old, who police said lived in Tracy. Their names were not released.
The 14-year-old girl was wounded in the upper body, and the 16-year-old boy in the buttocks. They remained hospitalized Wednesday. The others suffered minor wounds and were treated and released.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 89 Comments
Mats commented:
Re-do the link!!
wolfwalker commented:
That doesn’t make any sense. Why would “gunmen” (probably gangsters) open fire on a random group of people? We like to think of gangbangers as murderous scum, but even they usually need some reason to kill.
Mike commented:
If you want to stop violence, make these people go to work.
neomom commented:
Shot in the Butt-Tocks. Was his name Forrest Gump? I’m sorry, I can’t feel anything for the inner city dwellers that support violence against themselves. The anti-snitching movement, the School is acting white thing, the Black liberation theology churches, the music and art that glorifies the lifestyle and the Jackson/Sharpton style race baiters that enrich themselves off the blood of their own people. Cut the Federal aid, cut the food stamps and stop the enabling of a disfunctional sub-culture that has brought nothing of value to our society.
Granny commented:
HMMM – are you folks having trouble reading this morning? These CHILDREN who were shot were all in their teens, holding a vigil for a classmate who had been killed. How were they “supporting violence against themselves” Neomom? Make them go to work, Mike? Sounds to me like the young woman who died HAD been doing appropriate “work” for her age – actually graduating from high school just a week or so ago. What on earth is wrong with the two of you?
dfbaskwill commented:
Damn Teabaggers! Obama tried to tell us how violent they were. We just didn’t listen.
oldguy commented:
Does Granny understand what a generalized statement is? Who has the reading problem?
No Man commented:
But!
But!!
[sputter]
CA has the best gun control laws in America!
Granny,
I blame the white man.
No Man commented:
What a tragedy!
That young woman may have grown up to become CEO of ACORN.
neomom commented:
Granny, I understand what you are saying, but it is the same tired tragic story over and over again. I promise you these same children would not go to the police and Identify the perp in a line up. What’s your answer? How do we stop this? We don’t. They must. Stop the enabling Granny, force change from within. These children will be forgotten as soon as the next golden nugget in the sewer is gunned down.
Sean commented:
I live in the Bay Area, so Oakland is in the news daily for who got murdered “TODAY”.
The issue that has been on local documentaries, is there are 10,000 gang members in Oakland,armed to the hilt!
Only 300 Police Officers, lower then any Major city in Ca.
The Gang task force is around 10?
So yep the natives, run wild with absolutely no supervision…
Have you seen the corrupt Mayor? Ron Dellums?
Enough said.
Hotspur commented:
What a tragedy!
That young woman may have grown up to become CEO of ACORN.
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That is a disgusting comment on a young girl whom you did not know at all. You don’t know what her life would have been like and neither will anyone else.
In short, sir, you’re a douche.
Kenny Solomon commented:
Oh yeah, sure, blame those totally innocent and completely-misunderstood-only-needing-hugs-and-tax-dollars “gunmen”.
Lemme tell ya somethin’……… I’ve never seen, nor heard of any person discharging a round from a finger, leg, mouth…. anywhere……. It’s only those evil scary-looking guns that kill people.
…..and how ironic is that…… the Acorn Apartment Complex…………. Can we blame Obama for this one like Bush was blamed for everything he was even remotely connected with ?
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Sorry if I seem a tad bitter, but you need to know where I’m coming from right now……. The UN is currently holding their biennial meeting on “banning all things that can be weapons from civilian ownership, especially those evil guns”…… and the current administration in DC is buying into it sink line and hooker.
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Kenny Solomon
Typical, bitter, Eeeeevil Jooooooooooowish, God-clinging, Constitution-loving, gun-owning, barking-mad-insane NASCAR fan and a much better golfer than ‘you-know-who’.
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Do you know what’s going on in Kyrgyzstan ?
Did you know there’s a major George Soros connection – $37 Billion USD in Community Organizing money since 1993 ?
http://www.redstate.com/etcartman/2010/06/18/kyrgyzstan-on-the-edge-of-eternity
Granny commented:
Neomom, it isn’t just Oakland and inner cities you know. YOUR child probably wouldn’t go to the police either. Blame the stinking culture and the crap education that fits them to do nothing and the gangs, not the victims. These kids were trying to change things.
What is your solution? Just cut off their food supply and let them eat each other? Or maybe we can just go in with guns blazing and rid ourselves of them? Perhaps the guy who wants to “send them to work” has several million magic jobs in his back pocket, because there are plenty better educated than these out of work. Oh yes, we could always do as the Euros did not so long ago and simply make work for them. I think it was called forced labor. Perhaps that is what The Won means by his plan of required community service.
neomom commented:
Um, yes Granny, my child would go to the police. You see, in the Christian private school they attend, honesty, virtue and abiding by the Ten Commandments are taught, modeled and encouraged.
No Granny, it is you that fails to read. I do not wish to cut off their food supply. I wish to cut off the pipeline of our wasted money. Mass arrests with life and or death sentences under an organized crime law would be a good start. You have lots of sarcastic comments for those of us that would make the hard decisions but no answers of your own. Stop enabling Granny.
burt commented:
I’m glad I don’t live in California.
Granny commented:
“Mass arrests” with life or death sentences? Have you lost what mind you have ever possessed? Do you have ANY clue what it costs to keep a human being in jail for LIFE? Currently even a single year approaches $50,000 per head. That would be $5,000,000,000 PER YEAR for just the members of the one gang mentioned alone. Just who do you expect to pay for that? Sentence 10K gang members to DEATH? That is not a “hard decision” – that is absolute lunacy and abject tyranny.
“Enabling” hell! If you are a “christian” Neomom, then I want no part of your Jesus. There is not a single Christian thought or an iota of Christian charity in a single statement you’ve made on this subject. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Texmom commented:
I’m surprised at almost all of the comments here. The story is really just an outline and not nearly enough to form an opinion about either way. All I can say is may God be with them, and hopefully the attackers will be caught.
Andreas K. commented:
It might be my twisted view from across the Pond, but… For me this stinks of gang violence. Such young people involved in shootings? Smells of gang crap ten miles against the wind. Heck, they’re holding a vigil and get, more or less, drive-by-ed.
Willing to bet that not a single one of the murder weapons was in possession of the gunmen legally.
averagemelon commented:
I’m not sure what is going on at this site but it is always a sad day when an innocent, (especially a child) is murdered. Children are not supposed to solve this problem: it is squarely the failure of adults.
If we have large segments of the population that have blatantly stopped believing in the Ten Commandments and feel it’s “everyone for themselves”, then it puts the remaining population into survival mode. Since only the strongest survive when we become animals, I suspect this will become worse and worse until only the ugliest and stealth (with weapons) rule. California needs to choose once and for all which direction it wishes to go in and begave accordingly. Personally, I think they need to lay off the dope and get their heads out of their buttocks.
Andreas K. commented:
Granny, we don’t have forced labor in European jails. Maybe in the East, but in Western Europe the criminal, in such a case, would sue and run to the Eurpean Human Rights Court, and win! We have TVs, computers and play stations in our jails. We have a system that allows criminals to get leave from prison, like someone would take leave from his job. That system also allows child rapists to take this leave (happened in Austria few years ago, and the criminal raped another girl right away, for that he got 6 years… in a facility for criminals with mental problems.)
In Germany you can kill 9 people and, if you’re a leftist, get only 3 years per murder. Then you’re set free and the intellectuals will give you a job.
Neomom. My children would come to me. Then I would get my arsenal and would take down the f*ckers who’d shoot at them.
See, I’m not the type who turns the other cheek. I’m the type who will kill you if you attack my family. That simple. I don’t need the police, not around here. Because no matter what the police does, our “justice system” will let the criminal walk away anyway.
The European “justice systems” are utterly broken thanks to our political correctness, us being “sophisticated” and on the moral high ground.
neomom commented:
Granny, Sherrif Joe in AR. Knows how to lock-up on the cheap. What is un-Christian is enabling this mess to continue. What is un-Chrstian is knowing this will happen again in every major city in the country and do nothing but make excuses.
I doubt you had a problem locking up the Italian mob using RICO. What’s the difference? Whats the problem? is there too many? Yes, murders should be put to death.
Oh, I forgot something, Import a few Asian drug laws. They seem effective.
Granny commented:
AndreasK, I was not referring to current European law. I was referring to Hitler and those who were complicit with him.
Neomom, Sheriff Joe still spends one whole hell of a lot of money. This is NOT just a big city problem. This is an everywhere problem. I live in a little town in Vermont that wouldn’t make a blip on your radar screen and a girl I know (in her late teens) got badly beaten last week by four other girls because she happened to speak to the ex-boyfriend of one of them. A few months back my grandchild was a bit peeved with me over something or other, complained to a classmate and the “friend” told her in all seriousness that she should simply push me down and kick me. The very fabric of our society has been rent in two.
Virtually every single thing you have recommended Neomom is either unconstitutional or abjectly immoral and unChristian. Please don’t present yourself as Christian. YOU and your statements are exactly why the liberals try to make the case that “right wing Christians” are just as bad as the lefties. You are a fascist.
PS – We don’t have enough IRS folks to investigate all of the gang members for RICO violations.
Joanne commented:
Maybe being a member of a gang should bring the death penalty. When things get out of control and there is no end to the volume of violence against innocents, one has to take drastic measures.
Life just isn’t fair, but the law is suppose to be the great equalizer – these gang members involved should be given the death sentence and given it quickly.
No Man commented:
Hotspur,
She could have gone to Columbia and Harvard and become POTUS.
Kiss my @$$.
Put your contact info here. I’ll come to you and make you well and truly blest.
Dr. Bulldog commented:
Having lived for about 10 years in Barbara Boxer’s lefturd Oakland, all I can say is, “Yeah, that sounds like the cesspool my wife and I fled from a few years ago.”
We are now happily relocated to a quiet little town in Missouri and have never regretted it!
My advice to anyone living Oakland who has children is, “If you truly love your children, then get the hell out of there, now!”
Cheers
Dr. Bulldog commented:
Errata: “anyone living Oakland” should read “anyone living IN Oakland”
Chisum commented:
Gang Violence
Some sobering statistics.
http://piercecountycrime.com/gang-violence.php
Hotspur commented:
No Man:
You made a deliberately disgusting joke on this girl’s social status and race. You insinuated that her only prospects would be working for ACORN, a disreputable organization. If that is not what you meant, then clarify your statement.
Furthermore, don’t even think about threatening people on this blog. It’s immature and barbaric. If you want to act like an Islamist, take it somewhere else.
Hack.
averagemelon commented:
Maybe people who break laws should be arrested and sentenced adequately and then the gangs wouldn’t get so large. This is what happens when ANY law is not properly enforced and the criminal has free reign to continue. Just look at our politicians!
As a Christian nation, we are falling away from God and this is the result when enough people whose personal morals are far less than what the Lord commanded of us start to overwhelm the others who do.
Joanne commented:
“As a Christian nation, we are falling away from God and this is the result when enough people whose personal morals are far less than what the Lord commanded of us start to overwhelm the others who do.” by averagemelon
I couldn’t agree more – the scales have been tipped. It speaks in the bible that in the end times the earth would be filled with violence as in the days of Noah.
No Man commented:
No Man cares what Hotspur thinks.
And, I’m hurt!
You saints usually call us Hitler, or violent extremists when we get up on our hind legs and say something.
Hotspur commented:
Dude, you just threatened me in a previous comment. That’s not standing on your hind legs. That’s intimidation.
Not tolerated here. Go away.
newton commented:
This is a senseless killing.
It will only become worse, as the number of gangs increase in CA.
jonyjoe101 commented:
I don’t even have to ask what the nationalities where?
99 percent they weren’t white or teaparty people.
Chisum commented:
Maywood, CA. – 96 Percent Hispanic Sanctuary City – Disbands Police, Fires All Employees to Avoid Financial Collapse
Half of their population are ILLEGAL!
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/maywood-ca-96-percent-hispanic.html
Beth just south of Berkeley and just east of San Francisco commented:
It’s not *that* ACORN. Acorn is just the name of the housing project and the adjacent shopping center. I know that area; much of it is neat and clean, and it has quite a concentration of churches.
Oakland has a substantial black middle class, even with the “black flight” to the suburbs. It also has a substantial underclass, one with the usual amount of self-perpetuation.
There *are* minority Oaklanders who value education. There *are* minority Oaklanders who have “snitched,” at great risk to their own safety.
And yes, there *are* punks who do random drive-bys, because they’re as incompetent at being “gangstas” as they are at life in general. If there’s a memorial for someone who got caught in the crossfire of a gang dispute, then there might be targets in the crowd. Cowards and incompetents don’t target their targets well, resulting in innocent people getting shot.
There’s also the matter of jealousy toward anyone trying to raise themselves up out of the slime.
How different from the gangsta slime is someone who says these young people will never raise themselves up no matter how many anti-violence vigils they hold? Not very much. The gangsta slime tells them nobody cares about them, so why bother. So along comes Christian school mom slime to say the same thing about why bother.
The good kids who end up collateral damage of the slime wars are the future citizens I hope will keep where I live stable and healthy as I grow older. I cry for them, both for them and for myself.
Loving your neighbor means loving your Oak-Town neighbor, too, “bee-yaaaaaaaa …”
Granny commented:
Well said, Bev just south of Berkeley! Being poor is no sin. Failing in charity towards those who are is.
JasonsS commented:
It was white left wing “liberals” who initiated the carnage in black America and specifically places like Oakland, where they funded and hence armed the Black Panthers and gave angry, hate filled, murderous thugs like Huey Newton and Elaine Brown the Marxist word flow with which to promote their racist agenda of separatism and violent revolt in the ghetto.
David Horowitz was a Marxist back in those days and was directly involved in this era, which gave birth to gang culture and a subsequent culture of murder and crime. He’s one of the few leftists from that era who became honest enough to admit the damage they did to black America. His memoir “Radical Son” is an excellent, upfront account of how leftist liberalism in that era destroyed black America. The left ought to be ashamed of itself for promoting the hatred that ultimately led to this kind of gang warfare. How many dead, how much blood on their hands? It really is incalculable.
neomom commented:
Wow, this got ugly quick. My faith has been questioned, “Christian School Mom slime”? OUCH. People are being threatened and feelings hurt. The thing is, our emotions and heated debate has eclipsed the article. We have a dead little black girl shot by a black boy or man and it will continue to be business as usual for black people in black neighborhoods until the people of that neighborhood decide that is unacceptable. Sub-cultures are changed by pain, discomfort and the heavy crushing hand of those who know right from wrong. Dogooder apologists solve nothing, It is the fault of people like Granny and Beth for your failures to address violence with overwhelming violence. So go beth and Granny, hold hands, light candles and sing songs. While you are at it, prepare to bury more children.
No Man commented:
Ms. Hotspur,
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
To quote the famous French philosopher: “I may not agree with what you say but, . . . SFTU if I don’t like it.” Right?
You filthy, murdering commies are all the same.
Granny commented:
You really are quite a piece of work Neomom. The article says nothing whatever about the race of these slaughtered children. And I am quite sure that G_d does not care a whit about their particular color. I am neither a do-gooder nor an apologist. I am also not a “christian” ready and willing to line up my fellow man and shoot them because they happen to be poor and never will I cheer the death of a child. You are an absolute disgrace to the name of Jesus Christ. Think hard about what you wish on others. We’ve been promised that it will come back to visit us.
neomom commented:
A final thought for Beth and Granny.
Had the Japanese got as far as India, Gandhi’s theories of “passive resistance” would have floated down the Ganges River with his bayoneted, beheaded carcass.
Think about it.
Granny commented:
The children slaughtered in California while peacefully holding a vigil for their murdered friend are NOT the Japanese. And THIS is the United States of America. We do not kill people solely because they belong to a gang. Gang membership is just as legal as belonging to the KKK or the Girl Scouts or the local Moose Lodge. It is the illegal drugs, assaults, drive by shootings and other crimes that are illegal. Even then, PROOF of guilt beyond shadow of a doubt is required for the death penalty.
Neomom (and boy I am glad you are not mine or mother to mine!) you are a racist ignoramus worshiping at the wrong altar.
No Man commented:
neomom,
I’m with you.
Illegitimi non carborundum. Don’t let the persons of indeterminate parentage wear you down.
I’m hurt. Granny isn’t crapping all over me. I think I sufficiently annoyed Ms. Hotspur for today.
granny and ms h. believe it’s your fault and my that girl was wasted.
It’s our fault she was poor.
It’s our fault she had no opportunity.
It’s our fault she had no . . .
[the list goes on]
We know their motives when they tell us to STFU.
Joanne commented:
Belonging to a gang should be illegal. What good comes out of a gang that conducts murders, rapes, drug trafficking, and what not? Nothing.
Girl Scouts, etc. are legal entities where wholesome values are pursued. I am sure the parents of this young woman who just graduated, whether black or white, are heartbroken, and are sick, just sick of the violence in their neighborhoods. There once was a time when the police would look for a motive in a murder, but no longer, because there are no motives – just killing for the sake of killing; life means nothing to these people and mercy is for the merciful. These young men did not have mercy on these young people they shot to kill.
Just think if you were deciding to belong to a gang, and if caught you would be put to death, how likely would you be to join? It is a deterrent, and sometimes a deterrent seems harsh when you are trying to save lives.
No Man commented:
Joanne,
Apparently someone (no doubt of the granny/hotspur clan) sent a mail bomb to a person that tried to debunk the big “green jobs” lie.
I prefer their “STFU” comments in Gateway Pundit to getting blown to smithereens.
Granny commented:
No Man, that girl had plenty of opportunity. She had just graduated from high school – on time. People can and do make their own opportunities.
Joanne, this is a nation of laws and the law of the land is that each and every one of us has freedom of association. No big brother to pick your friends, no government to certify “approved” organizations. That is what freedom is about. To do otherwise is fascism. You might inform yourself a little bit. Criminals do not bother to register their guns and they almost entirely scoff at “penalties” because they know full well that very few of them are every caught and when they are “life” in prison means a few years and you might very well die waiting for a death sentence to be carried out. The death penalty for joining a gang is an absolutely ludicrous idea – and completely unconstitutional. You sound like those “protecting” our children who have kindergarteners arrested and expelled for drawing a picture of a gun. You cannot legislate YOUR safety (or mine) at the expense of someone else’s freedoms.
No Man, you want to be VERY careful who you accuse of sending a mail bomb.
Beth just south of Berkeley and just east of San Francisco commented:
So, now I’m wondering whether “Neomom” is some kind of troll who has GP readers stereotyped as trigger-happy racists who can be riled into exhibiting the kind of [N-word person]-hunting lust with which her own post #42 is laced.
Either that, or she actually believes she is one of “those who know right from wrong” and therefore qualified to inflict “pain, discomfort and the heavy crushing hand” both on gang-bangers and those who try to model alternative values for young people instead of attempting to go mano-a-mano with well-armed prime young male physical specimens.
Not that I want Neomom to come here to Oaktown, where our City Council is currently caught up in a game of budgetary chicken with the Police Officers Association that wil affect how many officers we have on the streets. Neomom, go play “Kill them all and let God sort them out” somewhere else.
As it is, I detect in this person’s posts not a “heavy crushing hand” but a greased-up stroking hand, if y’all know what I mean …