OBAMA ADMINISTRATION COMDEMNS ISRAELI RAID on Terror-Linked Gaza Flotilla (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 7:47 PM
At least they waited 24 hours… That’s progress.
The Obama Administration condemned American ally Israel today for its raid on the terror-linked Gaza Flotilla.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned Israel today.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 89 Comments
ice commented:
How can you condemn a sovereign country that is abiding by International Law????
If they will condemn a country for abiding by the law, then I would expect for them to praise countries that break International Law…..oh, forgot this Administration already does that.
This Administration is either ignorantly or brilliantly bringing this world to war.
Freddy commented:
I am not sure the headline meets the story. The UN resolution she is mentioning does NOT name Israel as the agressor in this matter.
jd commented:
israel is doing what they can to protect its people from terrorists.
i don’t believe for a second that “hamas aide” was humanitarian.
NeoKong commented:
Words cannot relay the shame I feel that that horrid woman represents me to the world.
Sickofobama commented:
Obama does not speak for me.
I stand with Israel just as God does.
Scott commented:
What do you expect from a President who pals around with bomb throwing terrorists and a Secretary of state who conspired with her husband to free Puerto Rican terrorists. She and Bill were courting the NYC Puerto Rican vote don’t ya see…The Clintons left office broke and owing millions in legal fees yet they had “earned” 109 million dollars from 2001-2006 according to their tax returns??? Have you heard of graft, grifters, and selling access??? They are the masters…
Kenny Solomon commented:
Yeah Sil….. Ammo…… You gotta get mor………… What ?
Oh, I’m still in here….. Right…… Gimme a sec.
I can’t….. No……. I can’t comment on this and stay out of prison, a FEMA Camp or somewhere worse.
Now where was I ?……… Phone…… Right…….
Sil, you still there ?…….. Good……. Meet me at the shop in the morn…………
S. Wolf commented:
Zero and al Qaeda.. and Zero and Jews:
Obama’s Al Qaeda Connection
“Barack Obama has been working in conjunction with an Al Qaeda front group to back the overthrow of a government which has cooperated with the US in the war on terror. He has done this through extensive support of Raila Odinga, who seeks to establish an Islamic supremacist government as well as a terrorist ‘safe haven’ in Kenya. The Al Bakri group has been using oil industry connections to funnel enormous amounts of money to Odinga in support of his efforts to Islamify Kenya. This support continues even as Barack Obama makes use of taxpayer funds to campaign in support of Odinga’s efforts. The Al Bakri group has long been established (through the so-called “Golden Chain” document) as a front organization for the movement of Al Qaeda funds – and it is the same Al Bakri group that serves as the primary financial basis of support for Barack Obama’s cousin Odinga.”
Obama – What Every Jew MUST Know!
“Barack Obama is truly awe inspiring – in his ability to shift his political positions. He has tried to be all things to all people; more than any politician has ever had the chutzpah to try before! But, if you think this guy is going to end up as a friend of Jews or of Israel… well, let’s just say I wish I had your powers of imagination. Have the guts to watch this video – whether you’re Jewish or not – and then tell me if you still have the ability to believe such a thing. You might also want to take a look at http://www.jewsagainstobama.org/.”
Scott commented:
Obama and Clinton are such pathetic people on the wrong side of history…The people of Israel have been under siege since 1946…They have been the victims of Arab invasions in two wars and litterly thousands of terrorists attacks. It appears that they now stand alone againsts the jihadists who are intent on their destruction…The puppets in our administration having decided to side with pagan terrorists now…
billy commented:
The fuse has been lit. Only a miracle will avert complete disaster now and this administration has a better chance of putting all the gulf oil back in the well than putting this genie back in the bottle.
The Israelis will not back down. They are moving ahead with full knowledge the US will no longer be an ally under Obama.
War by July.
You’re doing a fine job Barry.
bear commented:
Everyone who supports the dems should listen very carefully as this administration, in the name of the American people, slips a muslim dagger into the backs of Israelis, and jewish folks around the world.
The obamster and his thugs hate freedom.
As a Christian, my family’s prayers go out to the people of Israel for wisdom, resolve and their protection by God.
Marie commented:
Wow. Just. Wow.
sliderblaze commented:
i have an idea. in keeping with the traditions of bullsh1t the UN has offered us in the past, like Iran heading the un’s womens rights, we should make hamas the head of the investiagtion.
ConservativeMom commented:
I guess Israel is the one nation on earth that’s not allowed to defend herself. What do you expect from a muslim president? For shame, America…for shame.
DANEgerus commented:
Surprised? Really? Barack Hussein Obama has surrounded himself with anti-Semites, terrorists and terror apologists.
Callipygian1 commented:
A liar that didn’t “remember” billing a client 40+ times…
I am so proud this foul-mouthed, four-flushing goon is a national leader.
This administration’s lack of support for Israel is unconscionable.
jonyjoe101 commented:
This is the first time in America’s history that it has condemned Israel. The writing is in the wall, I hope the Israeli’s are paying attention.
I think it’s time for Israel to deliver a “killblow” to the Palestinians/Lebanon/syria/Iran. Right now the US has troops in Iraq and afghanistan so it is too bogged down to attack Israel. But once those troops are freed up, Obama will gladly used them against Israel. Best to attack while the oppurtunity presents itself.
The Whitehouse only expresses it’s own liberal views, most Americans don’t share this view. As an American I don’t feel safe, God might decide to show us his displeasure at us choosing the wrong side.
Jeff Brodhead commented:
I side with Freddy on this… Clinton (spit!) did not comdem Israel.
Though she evaded the obvious situation and injected her/BHO agenda, she did not say Israel was an agressor…nor out of line.
Neoavatara commented:
Well, I knew it was too good to hope for that they would actually support Israel…not this administration.
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=11116
JKB commented:
So the Obama administration doesn’t support the rule of State law, the rule of US law and now the rule of international law?
I guess they go with whatever feels good at the moment. How postmodern of them.
The Israeli blockade is in accordance with the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, 12 June 1994. The ships by their stated intent, failure to heed notification and their stated response to the notification of their intent to go to Gaza were in breach of the blockade and subject to capture and even attack.
gus commented:
“”If Political winds blow in an ugly direction, I will stand with the Muzztards”.
OBAMA THE PIECE OF CRAP IN CHIEF SAID THAT.
S. Wolf commented:
Jews and their Christian friends need to be on guard.. if there is war Jews will be attacked.
Message to All Jews: “We are Coming After You”
“We receive hundreds of these types of messages every week. A person with an email of dirkdiggler111111@hotmail.com wrote to us the following, in response to an article entitled “Israeli Commandos to Block Gaza Activists”:
If Israel does this this weekend I suggest all Jews in every Jewish community center, synagogue, world wide start wearing bullet proof vests.
We are coming after you.
We are sick of NEO ZIONAZI SWINE like you who are NO different than the German Nazis who also thought they were the Master Race.
You reptilian RACIST SWINE and your KIDS make us sick to our stomach.,
We responded telling him that we’re armed, ready, and waiting. Are you?”
sybilll commented:
I agree with #2 Freddy. Hillary seems to be keeping it neutral. For now, of course. I fully expect the condemnation of Israel, as is being cried for by the Progressives, but, this just doesn’t do it.
jainphx commented:
I can truthfully say that I”m deeply ashamed of my Government. This group is going to very quickly get us into a LARGE shooting war, and the Republicans still refuse to do much about it. Where is anyone besides our WOMEN speaking up, where is the investigations needed, whether by private parties, or by complaining enough for a independent prosecutor. Are we to just watch as the country is wrenched away from us? Are we to watch as another ally is tossed away or worse? My LORD forgive me but I hate these people that want us dead.
programmer commented:
This was a masterful exercise in diplo-speak. Secretary Clinton condemned the incident, naught else, and expresses support for finding out what actually happened. Walking a razor’s edge. She has got America’s back on this one without exposing Israel’s back — IMHO.
jainphx commented:
You trust a Clinton? Where have you been since 1992. She’s got our back? Wow just Wow!
CLN commented:
First Obama hides behind Bill Clinton in the Sestak affair, now he cowers behind Hillary, who may just be the closest thing to a supporter of Israel in his administration.
CLN commented:
I trust a Clinton more than Obama, I think Clintons will never make the mistake of underestimating islamists again.
jainphx commented:
The key word you typed is MORE, but to trust either is suicidal. I guess we will never learn.
wanumba commented:
This is the woman who KISSED Mrs. Arafat. THAT was just icky, but THIS was evil:
This is the woman married to the man who resurrected Arafat – who’d been booted out of every country he’d soiled his nest in – raised UP from the BRINK of total obscurity to head of the PA. Bill Clinton gave Arafat a second life, a new career- which he used to initiated the infitada and suicide bombers, unbelieveably corrupting the Middle East.
Saw a report recently that gave Richard Nixon credit for a huge, saving response to Golda Meir when she asked the USA for help in the Yom Kippur War. Hillary was one of the full-of-themselves Leftist lawyers who worked on taking Nixon out on impeachment grounds.
Have often wondered since that maybe the Left’s peculiar visceral hatred of Nixon isn’t about Watergate at all, but that Israel was 24 hours from extinction and Nixon’s immediate, no questions asked acting on his mother’s admonition of “If ever you are in a position to help Israel, do whatever you can,” literally saved the nation.
Wonder if that’s why the Left hates him so much.
CLN commented:
Yes the key word is more. There is something desperately wrong whe the Clintons have to cover for Obama. The administration is foundering and they are something of a lifeboat, not just for Obama but for the executive branch. Gibbs looked overwhelmed today, the response to the oil spill has been a mess and the foreign policy is a shambles. The Clintons look solid next to Obama. Even Biden might be an improvement as he does not look like someone who will deliberately run the country on the rocks like Obama might be doing.
I really fear for the future right now. I didn’t like everything Bush did or Clinton did, but I’d e happier with either of them in charge of the Executive branch
programmer commented:
jainphx,
Hillary is pro-American (isn’t that a sad state of affairs where a member of our government is appreciated for being in favor of their country?) and at this point, again IMHO, she has larger cojones than any other Democrat and most of the Republicans. Pardon my crudity.
This is an elegantly and elaborately set trap for Israel AND the United States. She appears, at least to me, to be trying to walk through the mine field without tripping one off. It may not work, but at least she is trying.
Follow the law commented:
Ha ha Obama is so transparent. If folks didn’t see this one coming and don’t see where it’s going, not much hope.
Scott commented:
#31
Nixon sent every TOW anti-tank missle in our inventory to Israel. He didn’t wait for poll results to make a decision…He was a great man who did so much for our nation and the world…There really is no rational answer as to why the left hated Nixon so…He did bring the troops home from Vietnam. He did establish dialogue with the Soviets and Chinese. And, he did save Israel in their darkest hour…We know these things. The left merely chooses to ignore them.
Bob commented:
Jim:
You’re giving the Obama Admin too much credit (ie 24 hours is an improvement) It’s simply because the O was on vacation. No other reason. He’s not thinking. He’s not measuring his response. And Hillary doesn’t need a “transparent” investigation into what happened. The video is available everyone to see. The script for this Turkish propaganda piece was written in advance. Even the outrage following the event was written well in advance.
gus commented:
My youngest brother is second in charge of Security for the State Dept. in the MIDDLE EAST.
I’m very worried.
wanumba commented:
“She appears, at least to me, to be trying to walk through the mine field without tripping one off. It may not work, but at least she is trying.”
……………..
Would SOMEONE get that lump woman a tailor? She’s $30 million a year in tax-sheltered income and first it’s orange, blue, and green popsicle stick, now it’s THE PRISONER in totalitarian seaside “resort” suit.
Can’t even dress properly for the job and can’t speak even ONE foreign language to save her life. What a joke.
Buffalobob commented:
Hey all of you NY liberals. How’s this administration working out for you?
wanumba commented:
gus
June 1st, 2010 | 9:54 pm | #38
My youngest brother is second in charge of Security for the State Dept. in the MIDDLE EAST.
I’m very worried
…….
Hey. That’s nothing! My son’s charming new neighbors are 450 or so seething flotilla “undocumented immigrants.” Getting an unexpected field practice in what is dryly called, “situational awareness.”
wanumba commented:
Of course, meddling Hillary condemned Hondorus, too …. for applying their Constitutional law to their law-breaking president.
Last time we checked, Hondorus 1, Obama/Hillary 0.
gus commented:
Wanumba. My brother lives in the Middle East and is in charge of Security at the Embassy.
Next year. HE gets Bagdhad.
antilbr commented:
Obama being from Chicago i truly believe now that most of his hires for his administration came straight from the cast members of BOZO,S CIRCUS ….OB being Bozo of course…..He won,t turn over his college credentials because their not from harvard their from CLOWN COLLEGE……..
jainphx commented:
You give credit to one who doesn’t deserve any, she, like her husband, will stab us all in the back. The day she is in any way useful to this country. Ah there’s no use, we have people that will stick up for the devil himself. Hillery is NOT in any way to be trusted, no matter what she says, or anyone tries to make us believe. That all depends on what the definition of is is. Yeah lets trust all those who have proved untrustworthy while dodging sniper fire, and how she was named after Sir Edmond Hillery. No thank you I’ll pass.
wanumba commented:
gus
June 1st, 2010 | 10:12 pm | #44
Wanumba. My brother lives in the Middle East and is in charge of Security at the Embassy.
Next year. HE gets Bagdhad
……
Heh. Just commiserating. I can’t really elaborate about what the other side of the family is doing, but Baghdad is actually … er, um,believe it or not … nicer. I’m not saying Baghdad is easy, security-wise, no no no. But if I were to tell your brother he’d know the circuit, roll his eyes and agree. Probably laugh out loud, but that’s okay.
wanumba commented:
jainphx
June 1st, 2010 | 10:26 pm | #46
You give credit to one who doesn’t deserve any, she, like her husband, will stab us all in the back
……
It’s the delusional PUMAS who show up to stick up for her. Campaign types. “Hillary’s the only one with cojones … walking the mine field.” Ack.
Hillary is the worst Sec State EVER, and that includes Madeline “Maybe we could have done something more for Rwandans” Albright. Hillary is a classic government SPOUSE HIRE. All throw the weight around, no depth, no knowledge, unprofessional and too pompous to study. WHo needs to study anyway, hubby will get her another job, as he always has.
Why so many professional women think she’s actually one of them is beyond me.
wanumba commented:
janinphx …
ps. I know you weren’t replying to me, but to the fawning posts above. Me just running on with it.
gus commented:
Wanumba, 5 years ago, after my bro left the Military for the SDBDS. He had already served as a Captain, as ATTACHE to ISLAMABAD.
His first duty as State Departement Diplomatic Security was the GREEN ZONE to AIRPORT SHUTTLE.
9 weeks shelled every night.
michael commented:
It’d be great if the “Christians” who are so on the Israeli side acted like Christians instead of bigots. Since you hate Muslims so much, I can guarantee you that you are not on the side Christ would be as he commanded his followers to LOVE ALL PEOPLE. But you decide to be picky on who you love.
Meanwhile the Israeli blockade is illegal, and unjust. Not only has it been condemned by the world but they know it’s illegal. It’s nothing short of apartheid. Of course, you good white christian folk probably hated that didn’t ya?
The IDF attacked a boat in international waters. Let me repeat that for you slower minds INTERNATIONAL. As in they had no right whatsoever to attack those boats. Suck it up,people. Your buds f*d up.
wanumba commented:
Well, the best thing we can do for your brother and your peace of mind is get the Democrats defeated at the ballot box, and get some grown-ups who know the difference between good and evil in charge, and how American’s allies are supposed to be treated.
Fuzzy commented:
Where is the president? The leader of the free world? He should be LEADING, setting the tone for the global response, not sending Hillary out with some weak response that leaves the UN and Europe essentially free-reign to gear their populations up for anti-Israel sanctions and actions.
You know that President Bush would have been on television, talking to the American people, setting the tone of the response of the free world.
As always, BO is a complete disgrace.
wanumba commented:
michael
June 1st, 2010 | 11:16 pm | #51
It’d be great if the “Christians” who are so on the Israeli side acted like Christians instead of bigots. Since you hate Muslims so much, I can guarantee you that you are not on the side Christ would be as he commanded his followers to LOVE ALL PEOPLE. But you decide to be picky on who you love.
……
In 1989 the Maur, slave-owning Muslims in Mauritania rampaged against free black Senegalese Muslims, in a fury of ethnic cleansing, based on a couple of RUMORS that turned out to be false. Hundreds of Senegalese were lynched on the streets, 10,000 were beaten out of their homes to huddle in a mosque without food or water, made into a refugee camp. When news of that atrocity hit Senegal, Senegalese Muslims rampaged against Mauritanian Muslims, lynching scores, forcing 10,000 to a mosque for refuge. Over the next month, these 20,000 people were fed, given medical help and support by CHRISTIANS, primarily AMERICANS as a coalition of Muslim nations organized a repatriation airlift.
AFter two weeks of this arilift, other Mauritanian free blacks were swept up and booted out, to their surprise. They were the Pulaar and Sonike blacks, also free blacks as the Maur/Berber ARab forced these Mauritania OUT and replaced them with SLAVES, the Harratin.
The ONLY people who were showing “Christian love” to BOTH sides of the Muslims were …OH! CHRISTIANS. AMERICAN CHRISTIANS.
So, stuff it with the fake complaints. Muslims have a lot to explain when it comes to FAILURE to treat people, including other Muslims in a humanitarian manner.
They need to renounce mob rule. And slavery. The Ottoman Empire reduced to Turkey by 1900 was still running a European white slave market inside its borders and Arab Muslim slavery of Africans has still yet to be eradicated as of today, 2010.
bg commented:
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I CONDEMN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!
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Joe Bean commented:
No surprise here. In fact I predicted it.
bg commented:
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do-over, forgot the link..
I CONDEMN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!
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craig commented:
#8,#23 S.Wolf is a plant.
got to:http://giyus.org/
look around tell me what you see folks. Useful troll with bad websites to share. Using megaphone software to search out and distribute their version of the truth.
wanumba commented:
michael
June 1st, 2010 | 11:16 pm | #51
It’s nothing short of apartheid. Of course, you good white christian folk probably hated that didn’t ya?
………………
Yeah, Sudanese former slaves have a few choice words to say about the hysterical use rather cynical use of “apartheid,” and more than one Mauritanian slave complained bitterly that everyone was all a flutter over apartheid while ignoring actual slavery. The Sudanese slaves nailed it when they noted that their pleas for help came to nothing because it wasn’t about “apartheid,” but “Socialism.” The Left again. Crying “Apartheid” was just a tool to enable socialism and communism.
Just like “racist” is used cynically as a tool to enable socialism. How come Arabs aren’t ever called “racist” for slaving Africans? Why the double standard?
Opaobie commented:
michael #51, you grazed a truth and then went tangential. Christians should try to win the hearts of all sinners and lead them to a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, but as David demonstrated with Goliath, sometimes you just have to turn the obstinate ones over to God “as is” and move on to the next one.
As for whether the blockade and the intercept were legal, you are wrong. I won’t repost all the rules that apply, they are all over the Internet, but Israel complied. The ones who violated the law were the “peace flotilla”, both by refusing to divert to an approved landing point or be boarded and escorted to an approved port and by attacking a lawful boarding and inspection party with weapons. They were not allowed to be armed under the terms of their sailing orders…guess they forgot. Once the Israelis came under fire, they were within their rights to withdraw and sink every ship that fired on them. They actually demonstrated remarkable restraint, but they were condemned by “the international community” anyway, just as the Turks and the other terrorists and terrorist sympathizers anticipated when they set the trap. Did you notice how quickly the Turks got out their already-prepared “press releases” and how quickly “spontaneous” protests sprang up at Israeli embassies all over the world? They’re even protesting in “Michigan-istan” here in the USA.
You owe Christians and the Israelis an apology.
S. Wolf commented:
craig #58
I’m a plant? lol
WisConbowhunter commented:
Try again Michael. Maritime blockades are recognized under international law and may be implemented in international waters as long as it does not restrict access to ports or coasts of a neutral state. I’m pretty sure Gaza would not be considered a neutral state in this case. So sucki it up Michael, your buds have been f**cking up for a year and a half now.
wanumba commented:
A repeat. All humanitarian aid for Gaza is handled by the United Nations Gaza office. All aid from government, NGOs and private citizens can be dropped at or shipped to that office and it’s expedited into Gaza. Busy busy office, lots of staff, warehouses, transport.
There is ZERO LEGITIMATE reason to run the blockade on “humanitarian delivery” grounds. So, that’s lying and lying is a sin.
The blockade is a WEAPONS blockade.
Everyone is so concerned about PEACE in the Middle East, but no one thinks FOREIGNERS running guns and bombs into Gaza is a problem for PEACE?
Them’s instruments of WAR. That’s “meddling” by Obama’s definition.
Is it an act of PEACE to fire missles into Israel from Gaza? Is it an act of Peace for Iran to fund Hamas as their neo-colonialist agents over Gaza residents? They’re Persians, what are they doing there? Isn’t Iran big enough?
bg commented:
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craig @ 11:47 pm #58
we know S. Wolf very well..
you, not at all..
and sorry, but i’m not going to link on your
link & maybe have my computer gO’poof..
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bg commented:
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2007–2010 blockade of the Gaza Strip
[The Gaza Strip has been blockaded by Israel and Egypt since June 2007, when Hamas took control of the Palestinian territory in the course of a conflict with rival Palestinian group Fatah. It immediately followed the 2006-2007 economic sanctions against the Palestinian National Authority following the election of Hamas to the Palestinian government.
The Gaza Strip has land borders with Israel and Egypt, and a sea border. Egypt and Israel largely keep their borders with the territory sealed. Israel allows only limited humanitarian supplies from aid organizations into the Strip. The amount of goods Israel allows into Gaza is one quarter of the pre-blockade flow. The Israeli navy maintains a sea blockade from three nautical miles offshore. Egypt is constructing an underground steel barrier to prevent circumvention of the blockade through smuggling tunnels.
Israel maintains that the blockade is necessary to limit Palestinian rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip on its cities and to prevent Hamas from obtaining other weapons. Egypt maintains that it cannot open the Rafah crossing since opening the border would represent Egyptian recognition of the Hamas control of Gaza, undermine the legitimacy of the Palestinian Authority and consecrate the split between Gaza and the West Bank.]
[standard disclaimer: source Wikipedia]
Opaobie commented:
bg and others,
S. Wolf is one of us; “Craig” is mistaken or deliberately trying to turn us against him. The website “Craig” cited that spooked you (giyus.org) is a legitimate pro-Israel website. Maybe he tried reverse psychology to keep us from visiting it. Shame on naughty “Craig”.
You can visit it without fear. It allows you to receive alerts and place banners and “widgets” on your website displaying news, especially outrages against Israel. The “megaphone” desktop tool software allows you to take action (send a message or report an outrage or a news story to them, for example). Maybe the term “megaphone” software is being misunderstood by “Craig”.
Here is a link to the Give Israel Your United Support (giyus.org) website.
bg commented:
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michael @11:16 pm #51
i can & will only speak for myself, but i don’t hate
all Muslims, just the Islamists in their/our midst..
as for your unfounded notion that Jesus would command his sheep to more or less volunteer to be led to their slaughter, i have a newsflash
for you, WRONG!!
what did Jesus rally mean?
[Jesus never behaved in such ways. Whatever the source of the misunderstanding, it is neither Jesus nor his teaching, which, when
given a fair hearing in its original social context, is arguably one
of the most revolutionary political statements ever uttered.]
Is It Right to Fight?
[One other point, if everyone was a pacifist except the evil and lawbreakers of the world, then the world would be run by evil
dictators or our society would be anarchy.
Pacifism in its fullest sense is untenable
in the sinful world in which we live.
[..]
The subject “Is it right to fight?” is a difficult issue because it makes us face the awful issues of a suppressive dictatorship, evil aggression, killing and death on the one hand and the “necessary evil” of war to stop it.[.]
Remember, it is possible to love your enemies and use force against him. The principle that love is embraced in laws of justice helps us see that loving one’s enemy is to make sure that justice prevails. In doing so, the Christian is also demonstrating “love for the ones his enemy has hurt.”]
“On Moral Equivalency and Cold War History”
Ethics & International Affairs, Volume 10 (1996)
[Where does that leave us, though, with the new evidence we have about the victims of Stalin and Mao Zedong? One recent but reliable estimate suggests that Stalin's domestic victims alone - when one totals not only the figures for the purges but also for the collectivization of agriculture and the famine that resulted from it - numbered about twenty million dead. This does not count the additional acknowledged twenty-seven million Soviet citizens who died as a result of World War II. But this is not the worst of it. Estimates of those who died in one single episode - the Chinese famine produced by Mao's ill-conceived Great Leap Forward from 1958 to 1961 - now come to some thirty million, thereby qualifying the Chairman (whose image was once a popular adornment for t-shirts and dormitory wall posters in the West) as perhaps the greatest mass murderer of all time.
[..]
We need to be careful about the methodological metaphors we keep
in our minds. Too much of Cold War history was written as if its major contenders were indeed featureless billiard balls, whose internal composition and character didn’t much matter. In retrospect, apples and oranges might have been the better metaphor: at least it would have allowed for irregularity, asymmetry, and the possibility of internal rot.]
same holds true today more than ever..
re: [the Israeli blockade is illegal, and unjust]
check out post #65, read, learn, discern..
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bg commented:
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Opaobie @ 12:50 am #66
thanks, apparently the link is
more reliable than craig..
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bg commented:
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S. Wolf @ 9:02 pm #23
of course the irony is..
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bg commented:
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did michael @11:16 pm #51 call us bigots??
re: [you good white christian folk]
rotflmbo!!
re: [The IDF attacked a boat in international waters. Let
me repeat that for you slower minds INTERNATIONAL.]
and i repeat, check out post #65, read, learn, DISCERN..
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wanumba commented:
BTW. The “humanitarian aid” was “delivering” EXPIRED medicines.
How “humanitarian” is THAT?
Militant Conservative commented:
michael
June 1st, 2010 | 11:16 pm | #51
Read the bible. I know where I’ll stand in a Jew vs. Muslim fight. Hate them all? No. Distrust the majority of them, yes. Their own religion states it is ok to lie as long as it furthers the cause. We on the otherhand are commanded to NOT bear false witness. Your a pathetic tool.
bg commented:
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wanumba @ 11:50 pm #59
re: [Sudanese former slaves]
former & present..
Africans…. whites…. Christians…. etc..
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Jo commented:
If Israel wants to stop this then they need to assassinate the people financing these so-called-peace-activists. The money will dry up instantly if it suddenly becomes deadly for the financiers.
Sonya commented:
Did I miss it or our “most popular” politician and her boss do not know that Gaza is ruled by Hamas, democratically elected by “Palestinian people” in Gaza, and these terrorist supporters are getting more international aid than any other people in the world. Looks like killing Jews is even more profitable than selling drugs.
Andreas K. commented:
Michael, you want apartheid?
Look into any random mohammedan country and witness it. Non-believers have to pay extra taxes. Women are treated like crap.
But that’s their culture and we must respect that, right?
Hate all mohammedans? No. The mohammedans are not the problem. There are many moderate mohammedans and even some who don’t care about islam itself.
The problem is islam.
Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey, declared islam to be an enemy of Turkey.
Couple of things Ataturk pulled through:
1922 Sultanate abolished.
1924 Caliphate abolished. Traditional religious schools closed, Sheriat (Islamic Law) abolished.
1925 Dervish brotherhoods abolished. Fez outlawed by the Hat Law. Veiling of women discouraged; Western clothing for men and women encouraged. Western (Gregorian) calendar adopted.
1926 New civil, commercial, and penal codes based on European models adopted. New civil code ended Islamic polygamy and divorce by renunciation and introduced civil marriage. Millet system ended.
1928 New Turkish alphabet (modified Latin form) adopted. State declared secular ; constitutional provision establishing Islam as official religion deleted.
1933 Islamic call to worship and public readings of the Kuran required to be in Turkish rather than Arabic.
1934 Women given the vote and the right to hold office. Sunday adopted as legal weekly holiday.
In one meeting Ataturk said:
“To the women: Win for us the battle of education and you will do yet more for your country than we have been able to do. It is to you that I appeal.
To the men: If henceforward the women do not share in the social life of the nation, we shall never attain to our full development. We shall remain irremediably backward, incapable of treating on equal terms with the civilizations of the West.”
Ataturk was no saint, clearly not. But he understood that islam was the problem.
He once called islam a cult created by the immoral Mohammed.
There is no moderate islam. There is no radical islam. Islam is islam. Turkish PM Erdogan said that some time ago. Islam is islam. Islam in itself is radical. It was created by a radical, by an extremist, by a mass murdering pedophile (according to the hadith Aisha was 6 when he married her and 9 when he mounted her.) And it is absolute.
If the koran would state that the earth is flat, then the earth is flat. Period.
There are no “radical” mohammedans. There are only moderate mohammedans and the rest.
As for pacifism. Please… Pacifism is the ideology of wannabe victims. It only works when everybody is a pacifist.
But we don’t live in a pacifist utopia. We live in a world of wolves. And who’s going to protect you, Michael, from these wolves (the religious and political fascists, who will simply kill you if you step out of line)?
The pacifist with his guitar?
Or the soldier with his rifle?
Michael is the classic case of someone who comments without understanding how this sort of fascism works. He has no idea about how clear islam is when it comes how to deal with us, the infidels, whether we are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or Atheist or whatever else.
We are infidels. We commit the worst crime possible. We refuse to follow allah, thus killing us is perfectly fine. Islam bans killing of innocents, but we, the infidels, aren’t innocent, since we don’t follow allah. An innocent is a true believer (a “muslim”, a word which implies “true believer”, which is why I don’t use it anymore), though, mohammedans are killing each other as well, so the whole system isn’t really working anyway.
It’s an utterly perverse logic that is similar to every other fascist system in the history of mankind.
It’s them or us.
And I’m sick of being told that we must respect their “religion”, which is actually lot more than just a religion. Islam is a whole social system, spanning across religion and politicis right into the private lives of people. And it’s absolute, thanks to the so called “word of allah”, the koran.
Every mohammedan must follow the example of Mohammed. And these folks are doing just that. They are killing in the name of allah, they are marrying little girls and rape them, just like Mohammed. They are, by definition, good mohammedans, since they follow the rules and regulations given to them by the founder.
I don’t respect them or their bloody death cult. Why should I?
It’s like telling the Jews back in the 30s “You must respect the Nazis.”
And remember, there was a mohammedan SS division killing Jews for Hitler. Himmler, chief of the SS, praised islam more than once. Both Hitler and Himmler liked islam because of the many similarities the ideologies have.
daryl commented:
I think the AF1 (or Hillary’s or Pelosi Galore’s pilot) should think twice about flying their charges anywhere near Israeli airspace in the near future.
The Israelis haven’t been treated in this manner by a U.S. administration since LBJ put the “Liberty” in harms way by ordering it into waters where it had been warned not to enter.
If you won’t help them Obama, kindly just keep your inept ass out of their way and your opinions to yourself. Go “plug that hole” and sin no more.
Mil-tech Bard commented:
The ultimate objective for the Leftie-Islamist “Red-Green Alliance” (RGA) is to smuggle an Iranian nuclear weapon into Gaza to be fired at Ashkelon.
Iran and its lefty friends will try this over and over until Israel starts killing them all.
See:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf645e98-6da9-11df-b5c9-00144feabdc0.html
“The Free Gaza Movement, one of the organisers of the flotilla, pledged a new attempt to run the embargo on Gaza. Audrey Bomse, a spokeswoman for the group, said the MV Rachel Corrie could reach Gaza “in the next four days”. The ship is owned by the Irish Free Gaza movement and carrying a number of Irish citizens, and Dublin called on Israel to allow it to deliver its cargo unimpeded.”
When the other side wants to start an incident, and is willing to die to accomplish it, you kill them and ask for more.
The RGA will run out of volunteers before you run out of bullets.
daryl commented:
“michael” sounds suspiciously like the idiot who used to rant and rave his “progressive” and “outraged moderate” tripe at the old Rathergate.com site. But they all rant and rave about the same crap in the same canned, repititious manner don’t they?
John Gargano commented:
For Clinton to even hint that the UN could ever be impartial is absurd. Then again she is now the pathetic tool of the pathetic administration.
And where is the unified Republican response to this situation? They should be out there with a clear message. There is a tremendous opportunity for the Republican to come out and squarely support Israel for blocking the smuggling of weapons into Gaza. They should condemn Turkey for pouring gas on a fire they shouldn’t stoke and they should call out the farce of the stated “humanitarian” effort.
Where is the Republican leadership? They need to put forth their position as though Obama doesn’t even exist.
smarty commented:
The GOP leadership are a bunch of gutless fools. They are taking polls on how to make people like them.
Meanwhile the US is holding Israel to a much higher standard than North Korea. This just proves that Obama supports communist regimes no matter what they do, and he opposes free nations when they defend themselves.
TalkinKamel commented:
Same crap, same canned rant, different day.
The names change, but the song remains the same.
Chisum commented:
Obama to Israel: You’re on Your Own
There is a single question that every individual, group, and nation must answer. To borrow from the most pro-Israel president since Harry Truman: if you are not with Israel, you are against her. And if you do not oppose with every fiber of your being and every instrument at your disposal that which intends the Jewish state harm, you are enabling her destroyers.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/304686
Chisum commented:
Hillary, the smartest woman in the world!
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/graph_of_the_day_for_june_2_20.html
Chisum commented:
Yep, the smartest woman in the world!
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/graph_of_the_day_for_june_1_20.html
auntie em commented:
This good white Christian folk knows what will happen when the GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob defends Israel by His own Hand.
I pray for the muslims that have been duped into a violent “religious” cult that pits them directly against Almighty God.
PaulWalker commented:
“It worked for Nazi Germany in the Warsaw ghetto during the second world war. It’s working for the Israelis today in the Gaza Strip.
It is an appropriate analogy. In their operations to exterminate Hamas in the enclosed spaces of Gaza, the Israeli forces use techniques employed by the Germans in their assault on the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.”
Chisum commented:
Paul/Liam/Ian/etc.,
Invest in a map of the Middle East.
Moron!
S. Wolf commented:
Opaobie #66
That may well be the case, ‘craig’ smearing a legitimate pro-Israel site by picking a poster at random and smearing him/her. It could’ve been you, bg, Chisum, wanumba,… anyone here, except those like Michael.
wanumba commented:
PaulWalker
June 2nd, 2010 | 12:07 pm | #94
It is an appropriate analogy. In their operations to exterminate Hamas in the enclosed spaces of Gaza, the Israeli forces use techniques employed by the Germans in their assault on the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto.”
…….
You must have failed the analogy section of the SAT. Or you can’t be trusted in a court of law to tell the “whole truth, nothing but the truth.”
Not a pretty choice.
Yeah, sure the Germans had a United Nations office in the Warsaw ghetto expediting so much aid the Warsaw Ghetto population was well-fed, well-housed, with great schools and a growing population, JUST LIKE GAZA. Oh! The Warsaw Ghetto wasn’t that nice?
How come you don’t criticise neo-colonial hegemonic Iran who funds Iranian colonial proxy tool Hamas which is running Gaza? Did you approve of Hamas throwing Fatah members off the rooftops during the Hamas-Fatah Gaza cage match after Israel pulled out? Do you approve of Hamas shooting missles into Israel, expressly to bait Israel to shoot back and hit schools and innocent Gazans?
Analogy? Unbelieveable.
wanumba commented:
John Gargano
June 2nd, 2010 | 6:03 am | #84
Where is the Republican leadership? They need to put forth their position as though Obama doesn’t even exist.
………..
Um, hiding behind Sarah Palin’s skirts?
PaulWalker commented:
The current Living conditions in Gaza include
Power- which would normally be running refrigeration and fans in 33C temperatures has been cut from 24 hours a day to eight. To escape the heat families have started sleeping on mattresses on the pavement outside their houses.
Water- previously available two days out of three is now available for only four to five hours every third day. And there is the impossibility of ensuring electricity and water coincide which makes it impossible to pump the water up to the roof top tanks that provide a steady supply.
Also, meat consumption has fallen from three or four times a week to once a fortnight.
Chisum commented:
“The current Living conditions in Gaza include”
So who are you going to believe, the troll?
Road Trip Gaza!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/road-trip-gaza.html
Art Telles commented:
The “citizen of the world” vs America…
The community-organizer-in-chief knows how to alnisky a crisis but he seems to have difficulty with the truth… about the source of the crisis, e.g., the oil hole response of the Obama administration and the administration’s Gaza comments are symptoms of a deeper social and political pathology.
The 2010 cavalry in state governorships and House and Senate seats will soon be deputized (elected)… and, hopefully, 2012 is coming for the “ONE-term presidency” of the “Lenin-wanna-be” transformer-in-chief… and maybe, just maybe the women will show the men the way to victory in the states and the Federal government… House and Senate and… the White House.
Scott commented:
#99 They may not have money for electricity or meat but…From Israel’s disengagement from the Gaza Strip in mid-August 2005 until July 2009 there were 3965 rocket attacks into Israel from Gaza. It seems they have money for rockets…
wanumba commented:
PaulWalker
June 2nd, 2010 | 1:07 pm | #99
The current Living conditions in Gaza include
Power- which would normally be running refrigeration and fans in 33C temperatures has been cut from 24 hours a day to eight. To escape the heat families have started sleeping on mattresses on the pavement outside their houses.
Water- previously available two days out of three is now available for only four to five hours every third day. And there is the impossibility of ensuring electricity and water coincide which makes it impossible to pump the water up to the roof top tanks that provide a steady supply.
Also, meat consumption has fallen from three or four times a week to once a fortnight.
……..
WHat a JOKE! It’s better than Lagos. The crybabies don’t know what a real problem is so that sounded pretty awful, but it’s NOTHING compared to … oh Conakry! Freetown? Monrovia!
Such drama queens. Wanna see how Muslims treat Muslims? Darfur.
bg commented:
++
PaulWalker @ 1:07 pm #99
[due to a lack of funds needed to purchase the
industrial fuel required to operate the plant.]
(and we all know how reliable UN reports are, i mean, i’ve no doubt
the only thing that ever changes in those UN reports are the dates)
tell us PW, why can’t they afford fuel?? and
why is it Israels fault if they prefer spending the *AMPLE AID MONIES on their jihad outfits, guns, ammo, rockets, etc.. they don’t seem to be suffering when parading, and they always seem to be parading, go figure..
oh yeah, tell us why their RICH Arab
country brethren cannot help them??
(considering their wealth, 1 billion from SA is also pathetic )
as far a i’m concerned PW, they’d obviously rather blow things up vs fix things up.. but hey, if that is the truth, then there’s absolutely no denying that they haven’t progressed for 60 years, and that would be due to the Jews?? come on now PW, that is pathetic, and you know it..
ps: there is no way anyone with half a brain could not understand HAMAS et al priorities, and it is not in the interest of making life easier for the Palestinians in their care, not in the least, and it’s 2010 for craps sake, get it fixed or get a new one, they can afford it, all they have to do is reorganize THEIR priorities.. they are not the ones being attacked day in, day out, year in, year out.. which i would imagine is damn costly, like maybe enough to build a new power station or two..
oh wait, well looky here,
[The company has resorted to operating on the Israeli rotation distribution line, Dirdisawai said. That line provides electricity to areas for up to 6 hours at a time, followed by 12 hours without, he said.]
why buy when Israel can supply, go figure..
*where oh where does the $2.8 billion go??
* not counting other charitable, or under the table, donations..
(ht TK @ 2:54 pm #15 in another thread)
yep, and they’re also starving.. hah!!
Chisum @1:51 pm #100
almost makes me wish i could travel, guess i’ll
just have to settle for what’s in my fridge..
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