Oh Brother. White House Says Bill Clinton Offered Sestak Non-Paying Job During Informal Discussions
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, May 28, 2010, 5:06 PM
The White House released a statement today concerning the Sestak scandal. They claim Bill Clinton offered a non-paying position to Joe Sestak if he would not run for the US Senate seat in Pennsylvania.
The Plum Line reported:
Senior White House advisers asked former President Bill Clinton to talk to Joe Sestak about whether he was serious about running for Senate, and to feel out whether he’d be open to other alternatives, according to sources familiar with the situation.
But the White House maintains that the Clinton-Sestak discussions were informal, according to the sources. The White House, under pressure to divulge the specifics of its interactions with Sestak, will release a formal statement later today outlining their version of events, including Clinton’s involvement.
According to the sources, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel asked Clinton and his longtime adviser, lawyer Doug Band, to talk to Sestak about the race. It’s unclear right now whether the White House will say that Clinton was asked to suggest specific administration positions for Sestak, whether Clinton floated positions on his own, whether Clinton discussed other options not related to the adminstration, or whether employment even came up at all in the talks.
But the news that Clinton is at the center of this whole story is noteworthy on its own because of the former president’s stature, and underscores how heavily invested the White House was in dissuading Sestak from running.
So it took them how many months to think up this story?
Either it’s a complete lie or Joe Sestak is a complete idiot.
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Bill Mitchell commented:
Well, for not being guilty, the WH sure as hell has been acting guilty.
If this were a nothing offer, why not just say so from the start? Seems like they are working very hard to cover up nothing – like major plastic surgery to fix a pimple.
Chisum commented:
Sestak-Rahm-Bubba
This White House is Nixonian in its Clintonian ability to parse words.
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/05/sestak-rahm-bubba.html
Sandy commented:
Its a complete lie. Let’s see Sestak was given an offered an uppaid job on a Presidential Board by Bill Clinton. Cause of course a former President would be able to make an offer like this.
What this doesn’t tell us is how angry Sestak was that the White House should try to force him out of the race. Or the promise Obama made to Spector that he would have no primary opponent in 2010 if he became a Democrat.
Obama’s lies are getting dumber or maybe they thought that with a Document drop just before a long weekend — we would forget. This is totally pathetic. So is Sestak!
Sandy commented:
Then there is the Congressional Race in Colorado where Bob Bennett’s opponent said the same thing.
TaSS commented:
OK. Now that is funny.
If you don’t run, we will allow you to work for us for no money.
Yeah, ok.
Probably money was not discussed since Sestak wasn’t buying so living in lala land, there is no concrete proof that it was an actual bribe.
“I did not have sex with that woman.”
It’s not a scandal unless it is a republican.
Sandy commented:
I’m still wondering why Patterson who the WH wanted out so they could run Andrew Cuomo instead. After complaining loudly about Obama wanting the only black governor out — Patterson is out and Cuomo is running for Gov. Must be a coincidence.
jonyjoe101 commented:
First of all Bill Clinton has been proven to be a good lier. Is anyone going to believe anything he says.
Sestak would have been an “idiot” to accept a “non-paying” job for a well-paid “congress” job.
Hook them all up to lie-detectors and I will believe what they have to say. The lie detector never lies.
They must think we are all idiots.
Swifty commented:
Two liars-in-chief involved– what could be wrong?
Chippy commented:
Looks like Rahmbo is going to take the hit for the Sestak and Blago problems. All for the good of the team. Look for hero/love the lime light Bubba to campaign for the cause for every dem in November. Barry can’t. His poll numbers suck.
Jean commented:
Liar, liar their pants are on fire!!!
katy commented:
–Either it’s a complete lie or Joe Sestak is a complete idiot.–
um, why can’t it be both?
neomom commented:
So Rahm and B.O. use slick willy, whose wife wants to be Pres, to commit a felony. These Chi-town hucksters are small time compared to the lying, backstabbing, dress staining, slickery that is Hillary and William Jefferson Clinton. Before this little play is over, they are going to find that out.
Rachelle commented:
They know it sounds sleazy and the don’t care.
They are just going down bullet points to dodge criminal liability.
Their focus is on criminal court, not public opinion.
olm commented:
They are lying and Sestak is a complete fool for going along with it.
I hope his life insurance is paid up.
And where the hell does this leave Specter?
Oh yeah. Out of work. That part is funny.
Joe College commented:
Excuse me, my friends, but way way back at the dawn of human memory — in fact, it was April 21 — it was announced that the U.S. Attorney, the IRS and FBI all got their fangs deep into the Florida Republican Party establishment, of which Charlie Crist is the head, being the governor:
U.S. attorney, IRS and FBI investigating Florida GOP credit card use
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/us-attorney-irs-and-fbi-investigating-florida-gop-credit-card-use/1088979
You might say the Eric Holder got Crist by the balls. And now lo and behold Charlie Crist is taking action in his third party campaign that can have no other earthly purpose but get the Democrat elected.
Coincidence?
Sure. It must be. You don’t think for one instant that Obama is going to use the Justice Department for partisan political gain by blackmailing Crist, do you? No, not an honorable man like Obama. And surely you can’t possibly believe Crist would agree to a scheme where he makes a third party run to sink Rubio just to keep himself out of jail, do you?
This is how this regime operates. This is how they got Obamacare through. and this how they fully intend to win the next election.
Mrs. X commented:
No doubt that this offer to Sestak involves Specter’s D-switch and subsequent re-election promises. Fail!
Otherwise, why would they care so much about this particular primary?
Shockingly, Specter decided to switch parties last April. He was a “republican” for over 40 years!
Nick commented:
Well I do declare! The ole “is” defense. This case hangs in the balance like an errant cigar. It all depends on your definition of “Job”! Barnum and Bailey aint got s–t on this admisitration! Lets hope the lamestream media doesn’t hide from this thing.
BurmaShave commented:
Does anyone smell a [DEMOC]RAT?!?
Just_Saying commented:
They’ve got something big on Bill or Hillary that the Clintons desperately want hidden — to the tune of Hillary working as SOS and Clinton lying in this case.
What do they have against the Clintons??
Furthermore, if it was that simple, why didn’t Obummer simply answer the question by saying he didn’t offer any job? Instead, he says they’ll be a statement forthcoming. Then, after a lunch with Bill, the statement is released. They can’t believe we’re that stupid, but what will the Republicans do in response???
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bg commented:
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anyone who believes the Clinton’s & Obama et al aren’t deeply partnered
in the ruse that is being played on “we the people” needs a reality check..
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Mrs. X commented:
They all had to get their stories straight. There is no other explanation. Gibby was asked multiple times on multiple occasions about this issue. He would never give an answer.
Deals had to be made.
Cover-ups needed to be had.
SmartyMarty commented:
Mrs. X: Arlen was never a Republican, just an opportunist.
How can a man perform this lie (fraud) when so many know the truth? What goes on behind the scenes to permit a disgraced potus to come to the aid of one disgracing himself as we go? What can the quid pro quo possibly amount to?
Chisum commented:
What can the quid pro quo possibly amount to?
Biden gets dumped from the ticket in 2012 and Hillary replaces him.
SmartyMarty commented:
“Hillary replaces” plugs? She acts like she out for # won.
Chisum commented:
SmartyMarty,
It would position her for the top of the ticket in 2016. I think she and Bill are taking a long view.
GrayRider commented:
And we’re supposed to believe this explaination (lie)? BWAAAAA-HAAAAAA-HAAAAAA.
bg commented:
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Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now
just one of the many Clinton ~ Obama ties that bind..
now lo & behold, this man is running for New York
State Governorship, trust me when i say, the fix is in..
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Subadar Lal Kukhri commented:
Rats are reincarnated as dung beetles for lying.
Not to worry. This isn’t a fabricated crisis and there is a workable solution.
It doesn’t add to the narrative. It will not be subject to any Pullitzer Prize invesigative reporting or a hundred books on the NYT best seller list.
RedBeard commented:
Methinks GrayRider is skeptical. LOL
As for me, I always believe what a disbarred perjurer has to say. [insert rolling eyes here]
bitterclinger commented:
Soros & Co. definitely didn’t get their money’s worth today.
Opus #6 commented:
Of course the discussions were “informal”.
Just like a street-corner drug deal.
archer52 commented:
You have to think about now that Bill Clinton is going crazy. Every time he turns around Obama is back stabbing him. Bubba has to be plotting something big to get revenge. No way he takes this lying down.
About now he has to be sitting in a Marine Barracks latrine mumbling to himself a la Full Metal Jacket.
rabidfox commented:
The cover up will succeed because the media won’t pursue it — the ‘won’ and ‘blue dress’ are still teflon so far as the press is concerned. However, the silver lining is that they’ve thrown Sestak under the bus. If Tooney can’t make Sestak out to be a fool then he deserves to lose.
rabidfox commented:
Not only that, but Sestak was one of Clinton’s ‘perfumed princes’ and now the Clintons have thrown him under the bus. He may not be real happy about that.
bg commented:
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Sandy @ 5:32 pm #6
wonder no more..
you may not realize it, but i think you more or less
answered your own question here @ Sandy #20..
iow: not that he’s the answer to NY’s problems by a long shot, but it’s quite obvious that Patterson not only refused to cooperate, but was threatened.. unfortunately for him, and US in the long run, and not that he didn’t try to fight back, but he will go quietly into the political graveyard so to speak..
an aside, why are there no candidates, other than
those in the ““royal line of succession” available??
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vsatt commented:
You could tell from most of the Youtube videos at the time that most of Obama’s supporters weren’t the brightest stars in the sky…. but COME ON PEOPLE! Are they really going to fall for this crap? At this point, though, even if his supporters think he’s guilty, they’ll just be so determined to stop the Republicans from pinning anything on him that they’ll keep repeating the official WH statement until everyone moves on to something else.
bg commented:
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Subadar Lal Kukhri @ 6:45 pm #29
crazy thought popped into my head reading your post..
i wonder if Obama will create a medal for journalists who show
investigative restraint, or write with un-inked pens?? /sarc sarc/
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A Regular Joe commented:
So Clinton is the one who gets to spend the 2 years in jail (1 yr for each count)? Or does the Big O pardon him. (Do my dirty work and I’ll pardon ya).
jenny commented:
Either it’s a complete lie or Joe Sestak is a complete idiot. – Nah! It’s both!
retire05 commented:
Today I called my Senator’s office and told him that it is time that D.C. start policing it’s own and I fully expected him to take this scandal to the wall. I also called my Congress critter, who is on the Congressional Ethics Committee, and told his office that I expected a full investigation of Sestak, a sitting Congressman.
If Sestak has to undergo an investigation when he is running for higher office, he is dead in the water.
But the lies are piling up:
#1 Sestak originally called it a “job” offered by the “White House”. A job pays money and Bill Clinton is not the “White House”.
#2 Obama and Clinton had a lengthy lunch yesterday. Obstruction of justice?
#3 Sestak originally said the job was “high ranking”, not some lackey position on a committee.
#4 A Colorado Dem is making the same claim as Sestak and even named the position offered with the USAID.
#5 Watch the original interviews with Sestak. He is very secure in what he is saying. Now, watch his interviews today. He stumbles, stutters, and looks like he is repeating what he was just recently told to say.
#6 If there is no “there” there, why did the White House call Sestak’s brother yesterday to give him a head’s up about what was going to be released today?
The fool in all of this is Bill Clinton, whose desire to be inside the loop is so great he let the Obama administration (Rahm Emanuel in particular) use him like an Congressional page.
Call your Congressmen and Senators. The only way this will ever be assigned a special prosecutor is for the American people to express their outrage. We stopped Shamnesty, we can get Obama investigated.
Alana commented:
“This is how this regime operates. This is how they got Obamacare through. and this how they fully intend to win the next election.”
It’s how Obama got his first political position, I believe it was. If you recall, suddenly sealed documents from his opponent’s divorce, supposedly un-unsealable, became unsealed.
Obama’s favorite movie, according to his campaign website, is The Godfather. Now a lot of us like the Godfather, but we don’t look upon the movie as an instruction manual.
I think Obama admires everything about the way Michael Corleone, et. al, worked. Deeply admires it.
pamlinson commented:
I smell Impeachment in the air….it’s a beautiful day…
Bobbi commented:
well, if you listen to evasive Sestak, you realize that he is undoubtedly an idiot dork.
Nick commented:
bg
“investigative restraint”
I wish I would have thought of that!
Nick commented:
bg
Imagine the amount of jobs that could create! All of the medals that rightfully should be awarded. Union medal makers. 100k a year.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Would you finger Obama if you knew that you or your loved ones would be dead by morning if you did so? I mean dead-dead.
Remember who these people are.
Sestak is scared, and with good reason. The folks who love Stalin, Mao, and Che (and probably ol’ Adolph, too) are in charge now.
He’s not scared for his career, he’s scared for his or his loved ones’ lives.
No question in my mind that this is the case. None whatsoever.
USMC Thomas commented:
Sestak’s military career was the antithesis of the “warrior’s”, he was the political officer who advanced by brown nosing and backstabbing. That’s why his career ended so abruptly.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
“Never ascribe to complex stupidity what can be explained by simple abject fear.” –Me.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Fear was an integral part of most Communist regimes. Usually, specifically, fear of death — one’s own or that of loved ones.
Nothing’s changed.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
…There’s a whole lotta AK state troopers and members of the Secret Service who could comment on the matter, but, alas, they can’t talk anymore, since they’re busy pushing up daisies.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
AR, that is. Not AK.
(doh!)
jainphx commented:
My goodness I’m stuck here, who do we believe? Clinton a convicted liar and disbarred lawyer, or Obama who doesn’t know how to tell the truth, OR Sestak.
myohmy commented:
Obama could not answer anything about this scandal. He needs his handlers like the DOJ to protect him of impeachment. Eric Holder does not work for the people. He works for the WOn.
jainphx commented:
Holder works against the U.S. in partnership with Obama, funded by Soros, and backed by the MSM.
myohmy commented:
Did Bill got millions to work as an emissary to pay off Hillary debt?
BigRisers commented:
Уже не раз набираю в поисске этот блог. Действительно постоянно актуальная информация
jainphx commented:
We speak English around here.
Sandy commented:
myohmy — That makes sense to me.
Sandy commented:
There is another case Romanoff against Bennett in the Colorado primary. Romanoff claims he was offered a White House job by Jim Messina. He has names, dates and places.
Sandy commented:
retire05 — Great post.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Google translates that as:
“More than once I dial in poisske this blog. Indeed the latest data.”
I can’t find a definition for “poisske”.
Webtranslation.paralink.com has that phrase as:
I type in поисске
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And I type in WTF.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
dictionary.paralink.com suggests “поиски” for that word, probably was mistyped (misdialed? heh.), and translates as “searched.”
Whole phrase at paralink translates to:
“More than once I type in search this блог. Really constantly actual information.”
Big praise for Jim!
(Damn, but did I attract the Soviets with my post?////)
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Sandy #61
Here’s a link to the latest from The Lid:
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2010/05/andrew-romanoff-was-first-joe-sestak.html
“The Romanoff report was never investigated by beyond the Denver Post, and on its own is not proof of White House impropriety. Perhaps the human resources director of USAID was staying up at night, desperately searching for someone with Andrew Romanoff’s qualifications at the same time Mr. Romanoff was considering his bid against Senator Bennet. But to believe that you have to believe in coincidences, the tooth fairy and the story told by the White House today. Even if you are inclined to believe the White House/Sestak story,the fact that the same thing might have happened in Colorado has to give one pause.”
Read it all.
Pat the First commented:
The axiom comes back to bite this administration badly . . . If you don’t learn from history, you are destined to repeat it. Nixon comes to mind.
Never lie to hide something that maybe the truth would have not hurt as much as it will now. Nixon should have let the “plumbers” take their lumps. He probably would have been re-elected anyway, and the stuff that they had on the Dems would have caused a lot of trouble.
Come on . . . the administration is dumber than we even knew.
Martha commented:
President Blamebush has a pattern of this. In the NY races he had Chuck Schumer call a guy who’s name I forgot and asked him not to challenge Gillebrand. He also did the same thing with Carolyn Maloney when she was going to run for the same seat, and at first Maloney was staying in the race, then she dropped out. Even Charlie Rangel commented on the President doing that.
Martha commented:
BTW for anyone in NY reading this, there are Republicans running for the Ny gov race.
One is a TEA PARTY candidate from upstate named Carl Paladino, and the other is a guy named Steve Levy.
Doug Hoffman, the last time I checked is planning to run for NY-23 again this year also.
Thought you’d like to know.
Yes the Cuomo Patterson thing, stinks like Rahmbo’s dead fish
Chkn Fryd commented:
Joe College @ 16: Crist outed himself by going after the expenses of his opponent which were billed to the GOP; no partisanship in this investigation, just mudslinging in the Sunshine State.
Just Saying @ 20: So what does that say about Cheney getting Scooter out of real jail time?
Opus 6 @ 33: Cute picture, cynical heart.
You guys are worried about lying? Check who you voted for in 2000 and 2004; still outraged?
Sestak knows what it is to have his political legs cut out from underneath him BECAUSE of his service history. Who in the WH thinks he is gonna take this deal? Two stars in the Navy, and he gets a dead end job after there’s a political shakeup in the Pentagon’s E ring. So now there’s a political shakeup in PA and they expect him to take a dead end job? Yeah, that’s how the Naval Academy builds ‘em. Or do ya’ll consider an Annapolis grad to be one of them there East Coast elitists?
Way to support the troops on Memorial Day people. Make it up to me; find a Veteran and thank him/her for you having the rights he/she gave you. I personally thank any veterans who may be reading this. I will remember your comrades who aren’t with us anymore but to whom I personally owe much. – An indebted and greatful nation which pauses for reflection.
bg commented:
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Alana @ 8:19 pm #43
exactly!!
(apparently most connecting links have been
sucked up by Obama’s black hole machine..)
there was that, this, and so much more..
to paraphrase Solaratov:
forget what the unicorn is up to,
keep your eye on the butterfly..
i agree with Sestak being another diversion (and even if he wanted
to talk, he & his family would need several body guards, forever!!)..
btw, wasn’t Stupak the last major role player vying for the ObamaOscar??
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Opus #6 commented:
Explain to me what is cynical about expecting the worst from politicians.
bg commented:
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well, if it isn’t the crispy Chkn Fryd @ 10:13 pm #69
debunked talking points questionnaire extraordinaire..
[Just Saying @ 20: So what does that say about
Cheney getting Scooter out of real jail time?]
FITZGERALD IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE TRIED
[Mr. Armitage, who has been criticized for keeping his silence for nearly three years, said he had wanted to disclose his role as soon as he realized
that he was the main source for Robert D. Novak’s column on July 14, 2003, which identified Ms. Wilson.
But he held back at the request of
Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the prosecutor.
“He requested that I remain silent,” Mr. Armitage said.]
Fitzgerald knew Libby was innocent, but he
proceeded with his farce of a trail anyways..
Obama ‘s butt coverer in chief: need
to silence a witness, call on Fitzmas!!
[We call on President Barack Obama to appoint a special prosecutor in what is commonly being called "Sestakgate." Alternatively, he could expand the duties of an existing special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, who is investigating a similar case: the alleged conspiracy of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to sell to the highest bidder the U.S. Senate seat vacated by Mr. Obama.]
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PaulWalker commented:
Least “we” forget, “President Ronald Reagan offered a similar political (and altogether legal) deal to Senator Hayakawa back in November, 1981.” This may be politics as usual but it’s hardly the “tempest in a teapot” or the cause for a “tea party” the right are attempting to make it out to be. Nor is it something that is exclusive to “Chicago” politics either. If this is all you got then you “got” nothing. Get over it already.
Also, excuse me but your hypocrisy is showing. Aren’t you the same bunch of people that defended Palin’s sorry ecuse for “quitting” as Governor? After all, she was only trying to save taxpayers the cost of defending herself against “frivolous” law suits and “ethics” probes. RIGHT? I don’t know, perhaps you think Obama will “quit” as well. But if I were you I wouldn’t hold my breath.
bg commented:
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Chkn Fryd @ 10:13 pm #69
[You guys are worried about lying? Check who
you voted for in 2000 and 2004; still outraged?]
name one, back it up, or shut up..
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PaulWalker commented:
#74
P.S. I’m sorry but I left out the X (as in Ex Governor of Alaska) in excuse. As the kids say “my bad.” I wanted to correct this typo immediately before my public school education was brought into play as in the typical cheap insults I’ve received in response to my previous comments here.
bg commented:
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oh looky here it’s PaulWalker @ 10:59 pm #74, crispy Chkn Fryd’s
tandem partner (they can only post together, isn’t that fun??)..
oh, i’m certain they did nothing wrong, i mean, there offer
was as TRANSPARENT & above board as RR’s was, right
oh yes, nothing to hide, yet they’re hiding
something, i can’t understand why, hmmm
ROTFLMBO!!
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Taqiyyotomist commented:
Great News!
“The president’s top counterterrorism adviser on Wednesday called jihad a “legitimate tenet of Islam,” arguing that the term “jihadists” should not be used to describe America’s enemies.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/27/counterterror-adviser-defends-jihad-legitimate-tenet-islam/
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“I will stand with them [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” –Barack Obama, 2001
True to his word in this, at least.
bg commented:
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PaulWalker @ 11:08 pm #76
what do you mean, “as the kids say”??
you’re too funny kid..
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Opaobie commented:
UH OH! Caught in another lie or just a “misspeak“???
Sestak was ineligible for job Clinton offered
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
05/29/10 12:52 AM EDT
In a little-noticed passage Friday, the New York Times reported that Rep. Joe Sestak was not eligible for a place on the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board, the job he was reportedly offered by former President Bill Clinton. And indeed a look at the Board’s website reveals this restriction:
As a sitting member of Congress, Sestak was not eligible for the job. And since the White House intended for Sestak to remain in his House seat, he would not have been eligible for the board after this November’s elections, provided he was re-elected to the House.
bg commented:
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correction re: bg #77
there offer = their offer
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PaulWalker commented:
bg #77 and #79
This bears repeating as it applies to you as well.
“If this is all you got then you “got” nothing.”
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Paul, of course Obama won’t quit for the reasons that Palin quit. He, unlike Palin, doesn’t see a problem with spending our money to defend himself. Or to campaign for himself. Or to pay off his supporters. Or to build his next campaign, his newly morphed ACORN entities, his OFA, and his SEIU. Our money, he considers to be his money, to spend freely and selfishly.
Yet another stark contrast between the two.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Paul, in BG’s defense, if he posted all he’s “got” with regard to damning evidence about this administration, it’d be more material than you’ve likely read in your life to date.
You’re insufferably ignorant, and it shows.
PaulWalker commented:
Taqiyyotomist #83
In listing Palin’s reasons for “quitting” you forgot to mention “to star on a reality show coproduced my someone suspected of murder”.
bg commented:
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Opaobie @ 11:21 pm #80
okay, so..
because they discovered (after the fact) that he was not eligible, any
law breaking offer made beforehand doesn’t count, um, think got it..
“whew”, well thank goodness he
didn’t take them up on it huh??
/saaaaaarc/
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bg commented:
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PaulWalker @ 11:23 pm #82
oh please, don’t try to avail yourself of my sympathies..
if that’s all i “got” then where does that leave “you”??
/comic relief sarc
/
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Taqiyyotomist commented:
Paul: and yet, your beloved president is BFF with people who are actual accomplices to and supporters of murder.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Besides, Paul, I wasn’t “listing” anything, merely (and perhaps futilely) responding to your mention of Palin quitting to save the taxpayers’ millions of dollars which would have been spent defending against lawsuits.
It seems you’re the one who “forgot” to mention the reality show thing in your list.
But yeah: this is futile, so I’ll hit the hay now.
Opaobie commented:
bg #86, yeah, I guess that answers all the concerns…no need to pursue it any further…the Presidential toilet cleaning job was probably already taken anyway….
Slappy commented:
PaulWalker (#74): “Least ‘we’ forget, ‘President Ronald Reagan offered a similar political (and altogether legal) deal to Senator Hayakawa back in November, 1981.’”
That’s simply not true, though you and various other Lefties have been disingenuously using this example to defend this Obama/Sestak situation. If you read the whole AP story from November 1981, an offer was never made by the Reagan administration and the White House and Hayakawa never were in contact in regards to an offer. It was simply Ed Rollins making a comment in an interview:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1454&dat=19811126&id=ibcsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HhQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5060,5317656
PaulWalker (#74): “This may be politics as usual but it’s hardly the ‘tempest in a teapot’ or the cause for a ‘tea party’ the right are attempting to make it out to be. Nor is it something that is exclusive to ‘Chicago’ politics either. If this is all you got then you ‘got’ nothing. Get over it already.”
Perhaps you should speak to Sestak and the White House then because this whole thing came up because of Sestak’s public comments, then the White House’s lack of comments when asked to respond to his comments, then this absurd explanation that was released today. Your attempt to blame conservatives for causing this whole thing and mocking us for being upset by it is a transparent attempt at deflecting the scrutiny that Obama & Co. are receiving. Are you a political hack in training? Perhaps Robert Gibbs’ or Paul Begala’s apprentice?
Considering that this Sestak situation has taken place following other similar situations involving Rod Blagojevich and Obama’s IL Senate seat and Andrew Romanoff and the Colorado Senate seat, I don’t know why you’re even trying to defend this. Let’s not forget that all three of these situations involving Obama & Co. were exposed by law enforcement agencies, the media, and/or the participants themselves. Yet, you come here and try to act so sanctimonious and arrogant, as if conservatives are the ones that created these situations and are the only ones focusing on them. Puh-lease.
PaulWalker (#74): “Also, excuse me but your hypocrisy is showing. Aren’t you the same bunch of people that defended Palin’s sorry ecuse for ‘quitting’ as Governor? After all, she was only trying to save taxpayers the cost of defending herself against ‘frivolous’ law suits and ‘ethics’ probes. RIGHT? I don’t know, perhaps you think Obama will ‘quit’ as well. But if I were you I wouldn’t hold my breath.”
Nice non-sequitur. Were you just trying to meet the DNC quota of mentioning Sarah Palin at least once with each of your blog posts? Her quitting as Governor of Alaska has absolutely nothing to do with the Sestak situation. Trying to link the two together in any way, shape, or form is idiotic beyond belief. Also, trying to link all of us as “the same bunch of people that defended Palin’s sorry excuse for “quitting” as Governor” is equally as absurd since some of us did no such thing. You really contributed “a lot” to this topic, Paul.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
Exemplary comment, Slappy. Futile in Paul’s case — but maybe someone else will come away enlightened and informed. Well done.
bg commented:
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Taqiyyotomist @11:16 pm #78
we did not listen, we’re not listening still, that obviously being
)
the case at this point in time, i don’t believe we ever will..
Taqiyyotomist @ 11:28 pm #84
re: [You’re insufferably ignorant, and it shows.]
true, but why make the kid happy??
just teasing you T, thanks (btw i’m a she)!!
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Kathy from Kansas commented:
“Either it’s a complete lie, or Joe Sestak is an idiot.”
I don’t like to think that a former admiral in the U.S. Navy is an idiot — much easier for me to believe that it’s a whole mess of lies, especially considering who we’re talking about here… Obama and Clinton are both pathological compulsive liars.
jainphx commented:
Trolls come out when the situation is hurting Obambi. Obambi is without a doubt a reprehensible excuse for a man let alone a President. The problem was the gulf not golf, but then again 35 days to EVEN speak of the oil spill is really beyond belief. Spin that Mr. Walker, oh that’s right it’s your job to bring up Palin, and not very well at that. You should not try crossing swords with bg, she will hand you your a$$, but thats up to you.
bg commented:
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btw PaulWalker @ 11:23 pm #82
if you bothered to read my posts, you’ll note
that i think this is all a distracting farce..:p
but will add a disclaimer: i hope i’m wrong..
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jainphx commented:
Kathy— He was fired by CNO in 2005, because he was an arrogant bully and a poor officer.
Opaobie commented:
…and he was an Admiral ONLY because Bill (“Did you know I dodged the draft and didn’t go to Vietnam”?) Clinton promoted him…over a lot of far more qualified candidates.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Taqiyyatomist at #48:
“Would you finger Obama if you knew that you or your loved ones would be dead by morning if you did so?….
Sestak is scared, and with good reason. The folks who love Stalin, Mao, and Che (and probably ol’ Adolph, too) are in charge now.
He’s not scared for his career, he’s scared for his or his loved ones’ lives.”
Yup. Glad I’m not the only one who sees it this way. In fact, the thought crossed my mind many, many times during the health-care battle, as one “no” vote after another changed to “yes” after being summoned to meet privately with the President or one of his fixers.
I would only point out that not only are they communists, but Chicago Mob gangsters. Remember that their beloved Saul Alinsky “apprenticed” with Frank Nitti, Al Capone’s “enforcer” and right-hand man in the ’20s and ’30s, and the man who actually ran the Chicago mob while Capone was in prison.
David Horowitz has the lowdown on all that. Go to his website, http://www.frontpagemag.com, and either order his little booklet “Barack Obama’s Rules for Radicals: The Alinsky Model” or read the pdf version of it online. It’s dynamite.
logic101 commented:
I think the lefties should relax…we don’t want to run Obama out of office…we just want to hold hearings, grill witnesses and generally kick the political bleep out of all those guys for about two and a half years…
JaneLovesJesus commented:
Q: How can you tell when Obama is lying?
A: His lips move.
Sandy commented:
You would think after 2 months they could have come up with a more believable lie. But with the media in their pockets and the distain they feel for the American people–they don’t care what they say.
Andreas K. commented:
PaulWalker
May 28th, 2010 | 11:30 pm | #84
In listing Palin’s reasons for “quitting” you forgot to mention “to star on a reality show coproduced my someone suspected of murder”.
And the whole left wing in the US cried over the death of someone who actually murdered a woman. I’m looking at you Ted Kennedy, you let that girl die in the sinking car while leaving her to her fate. That’s murder in my book.
Yet… the left wing cried over his death and tried to pretend he was such a good guy…
Hmmm…
Oh I forgot, if you’re a leftist, you not only lack brain, but also conscience. Sorry! Won’t happen again.
Chisum commented:
Sestak was ineligible for job Clinton offered
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/sestak-was-ineligible-for-job-clinton-offered-95167459.html
Chisum commented:
What’s gotten into Crissy Matthews lately?
Chris Matthews Praises Rush Limbaugh…For Mocking Bill Clinton?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/05/29/chris-matthews-praises-rush-limbaugh-mocking-bill-clinton
Lenore commented:
So who will go to jail for Obama, Bill or Rahm?
http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/600.html
Lenore commented:
Sandy why should they care, the people don’t care, we don’t care about their words on tape so why care about the words not taped? We are truly an ignorant people. They are not hiding what they do, what they want or what they say. Look at Bloomy in CT he’s up in approval ratings even though he lied 7-10 times about his service,
Lenore commented:
Great in their own words site. http://www.nakedemperornews.com/
squeaky commented:
“Look at Bloomy in CT he’s up in approval ratings even though he lied 7-10 times about his service,” a resume enhancement for some.
all the same folks that buy into any hairbrain get quick scheme against your advice only to turn around and rag you out when it goes down the can – “why didn’t you warn me”.
Chisum commented:
Sestak: Once again, it’s the “coverup” – or is it?
The public has turned against the President. The media has nothing to lose but its sad preconceptions and its laughable elitism.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sestak-once-again-its-the-coverup-or-is-it/
LimoLibsStink commented:
0bama:
So what? I may have offered Sestak a lush job at the Whitie House to manipulate elections. It’s illegal. I admit it. But, I have never have been caught.
Sure, some say I should be in jail and maybe they are right. But, I am not. Catch me if you can! I still can snort a line of coke fast than Bill’s huge nose… and the evidence is gone.
My limousine is running and I have some people to Barney Frank – if you know what I mean. Good day.
Taqiyyotomist commented:
bg:
My apologies, ma’am — in my ignorance, I’ve always assumed, perhaps somewhat bigoted-ly, that you were male.
Gotta go to work now — I’ll consider it penance.
TheScribbler commented:
Looks like we know why Obama didn’t campaign for Specter. I guess Specter just took the loss of his political career in stride, falling on his sword for his dear leader. Yeah right. If Sestak got an offer to not run then you can bet that this was all the big pay off for Specter switching parties. They just thought nobody would clue in so quickly. The only real suprising thing is that Blago hasn’t taken this and run wild with it.
neomom commented:
Am I the only one that sees the Clintonites attacking the President from all angles. That James Carville rant had nothing to do with the Gulf. Carville would shoot his mother to get off the sidelines. He is one of the original Dem Dirtbags. Slick willy has planted a figurative bomb on the current administration and he will skip away clean. He knew he was aiding Obama in commiting a felony. Bill Clintons right testicle is smarter than Obama.This leaves Hillary a shot at the top spot in 2012. Hillary is letting Obama write her campaign speaches. Obama has seriously mishandled foreign policy, all foreign policy. Who has all the inside dirt. That’s right, Hillary. This keep your enemy close mantra is almost always correct unless your a dealing with the Clintons. Yes, I like a good conspiracy. But this is all right there for everyone to see. Time will tell, but I think the Clintons will rise like the proverbial Pheonix to “rescue the country” from Obama. This will be fun to watch, if the Country survives it.
neomom commented:
Another blast from the Clinton past. Donna Brazile Attacks White House.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/27/AR2010052704545.html?hpid=topnews
Hera commented:
So I’m supposed to believe that a former POTUS offered Sestak a non-paying job on some obscure board. In exchange for Sestek giving up the chance at a paying job as a US Senator.The Obama administration is dumber then I thought, if they think anyone believes that.
Valerie commented:
Neomom,
That James Carville rant has everything to do with the Gulf. He’s from the area. Listen up to what Newt Gingrich has to say about it, as well. For once, those two agree.
BO is playing F*ck the System, and the entire Gulf Coast is going to suffer for it. The losses are going to be enormous.
The Clintonites are indeed opportunists, but they are also loyal Americans and loyal Democrats. They did not speak up until it became very plain that this administration is utterly failing to do things well within its power to ameliorate this disaster. What we are hearing is an angry, aghast response to the deadly indifference this administration has to our own people. They’ve been trying to right this situation quietly, and that did not work.
Chisum commented:
Obama’s Potemkin Presidency
The ineffectualness of the administration was on display for all to see this week. Over a month after the spill began, Obama was able to take time away from his busy schedule of back to back vacations to visit the Gulf. He was there for about three hours — which would equate to about nine holes of golf — gave an insipid speech and left.
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/05/29/obamas-potemkin-presidency/
neomom commented:
I respectfully disagree Val. Carville may be legit to a degree. But he and the Clintons are opportunistic scumbags. Like I say, time will tell. Bill and Hillary are not loyal Americans. They are loyal Progressives. Their ends always justify their means. They are the dirtiest most dangerous couple in progressive politics.
njmmvvm commented:
Obama/Rahm-Clinton-Sestak
Playing Chinese telephone does not clear the White House from giving the order in the first place..
bill-tb commented:
So they sat on this for what, 4 months, and now say nothing to see here.
LOL, they think they are in Kenya.
K commented:
Yeah, yeah and as they say in Jersey – “I’ve got a bridge I want to sell ya”.
olm commented:
Actually, the only thing here that makes sense is for the king and queen of self importance use this to get back in the WH.
I’m starting to think Obama is toast and the old Clintonistas are being lined up and getting ready to march.
wanumba commented:
Sounds like a dodge a bunch of lawyers used to parsing every word would do. A volunteer job isn’t a “pay-off.” No pay! Getting an ex-POTUS to cover for the current POTUS provides an effect of distance, and a bright light to draw the “moths” away from other “lights.”
Is it illegal for an ex-POTUS to offer anyone a job – he just thunked it up by himself one afternoon, randomly? Is Rahmbo in Israel to ask for political asylum or just not available for questioning for a little bit?
It’s hard to predict what people who are without morals will come up with. Good people just can’t imagine the range of the machinations of the despicable. In order to predict and thwart these people, we need a G.K. Chesterton “Father Brown,” someone who is good and honorable, but who can mimick the thinking of a criminal without getting corrupted.
kansas commented:
I believe Bill Clinton. Might as well, this is going nowhere. This is just a distraction from the next crisis which will result in more damage to the economy caused by another layer of rules.
Richard Romano commented:
SlappyNo Gravatar
May 28th, 2010 | 11:42 pm | #90
Nice non-sequitur. Were you just trying to meet the DNC quota of mentioning Sarah Palin at least once with each of your blog posts? Her quitting as Governor of Alaska has absolutely nothing to do with the Sestak situation. Trying to link the two together in any way, shape, or form is idiotic beyond belief. Also, trying to link all of us as “the same bunch of people that defended Palin’s sorry excuse for “quitting” as Governor” is equally as absurd since some of us did no such thing. You really contributed “a lot” to this topic, Paul.
Your pwnage of Mr. Walker is so thorough that I have to wonder if he has a new orifice somewhere on his body.
Well done, Slappy
aprilnovember811 commented:
Oh come on, what authority would Bill Clinton have to offer someone a job with the White House? This is a whopper of another LIE, FROM THE PATHOLOGICAL LIAR OBAMA! IMPEACH HIM! HE ISN’T ELIGIBLE ANYWAY. GO TO HELL, OBAMA, OR SHOULD I SAY GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!
aprilnovember811 commented:
When this guy is thrown out of the White House, they better take an inventory of everything there. He is not above, stealing something, or destroying something.
MGB commented:
Chisum: That’s a great catch!
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=President%27s_Foreign_Intelligence_Advisory_Board
So it’s supposedly not a paid position, but one might argue it’s certainly something of value. Who pays for the staff of this board, which was created by executive order, with members appointed by the president? They write reports. They research. Where does the money come from for all those activities and the offices and the meeting rooms and the other perks they surely receive? Taxpayers. That’s who. And how do they get the money from the taxpayers? By Congressional action, because that’s the only way that ANYBODY gets one thin dime of taxpayer money.
Besides which, as you’ve pointed out, Sestak wasn’t qualified for the job. So either Rahmbo and Slick Willy are dumb for not knowing that fact OR they made up the wrong job to use to explain away this potential crime.
The statute is clear. (Powerlineblog has the text.)
Six degrees of separation–exactly how Obama kept his own hands clean when they solicited (allegedly) Blagojevich to appoint their chosen one to Obama’s Senate seat. And now Blagojevich is on trial for a “crime.”
They even used the same use-the-brother-as-go-between trick. Certainly, people would be watching for contacts between the WH and Sestak, watching for potential collusion to get the cover story straight.
Maybe Sestak wouldn’t specify the job to the press because the WH hadn’t yet told him, through his brother, what he was supposed to say, as opposed to the truth about whatever job they really offered.
Chkn Fryd commented:
bg, Chisum: strap on the helmets and check your mouth pieces, this may hurt a little.
Opus #6 @ 71: Explain to me what is cynical about expecting the worst from politicians. Because then that’s all you’ll ever get from them, and it won’t even be a disappointment. Let’s all expect better.
bg @ 72: Fitzgerald knew Libby was innocent, but he
proceeded with his farce of a trail anyways..
Appalachian Trial, that is. I guess you’re right about the sinister plan by Fitzgerald to go after Scooter and The Brain, especially after a jury found Scooter guilty on several counts of no less than misleading Fitzgerald and The Brain had to keep coming back to the grand jury to revise his testimony. I can see now just how brilliant Fitzgerald’s plan was.
bg @ 74: [You guys are worried about lying? Check who
you voted for in 2000 and 2004; still outraged?]
name one, back it up, or shut up..
deep breath . . . “There’s no priviledge of habeus corpus, I don’t work in the Executive Branch, Brownie you’re doing a heckuva job, no criminal will work in my administration and we will get to the bottom of this leak, Reagan proved deficits don’t matter, would you be more likely or less likely to vote for Senator McCain if you knew he had a black baby, we don’t trust big government since business can take care of itself & Slam Dunk.” – whew. I’ve heard tell that there be other remarks. Arrgh, maties.
Taqqiyyotomist @ 77: “The president’s top counterterrorism adviser on Wednesday called jihad a “legitimate tenet of Islam,” arguing that the term “jihadists” should not be used to describe America’s enemies.” If they aren’t declaring war on us, I don’t care. Especially since WE love to declare war on things. Right now I declare jihad on MS, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, AIDS, Sicke cell, homelessness, hunger, poverty, TV replay in the NFL, and other forms of injustice.
jainphx @ 94: 1) Viva “Los Suns.” 2) “Now watch this drive.” – W @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WMnI6kGXOQ
jainphx @ 96: Kathy— He was fired by CNO in 2005, because he was an arrogant bully and a poor officer.
He was a 2 star reporting directly to a 4 star CNO whose tour in that position was up. I imagine all the 3 and 4 stars who got passed over for his assignment and who wanted his gig didn’t think much that decision in light of the chain of command. And when the power structure in the Navy changed with a new CNO, maybe they let Sestak know just how they felt about all that. This happens in the upper eschelons of any organization when there’s a change in command.
Andreas K @ 102: Oh I forgot, if you’re a leftist, you not only lack brain, but also conscience. Sorry! Won’t happen again.
You and I are not labels; we are both Americans. We each have a brain, a conscience, and an honest disagreement with each other. That’s all.
Chisum @ 104: Chris Matthews Praises Rush Limbaugh…For Mocking Bill Clinton?
Ahhh, you can’t believe anything these MSM hacks say! They are all partisan idealouges in the tank for Clinton, Gore, Clinton, Obama, and Limbaugh. . . .wait, what?!
Chisum @ 118: Hey,it’s not our fault you people got in over your heads with your fancy
sub-prime mortgages,Freddie Mac,TARP, and big oil spills. This is America, not a nanny state, so suck it up already. Dude, seriously; Gov. Jindal wants you to suck it up like, yesterday.bill-tb @ 121: LOL, they think they are in Kenya.
Enough with the racist crap; you’re giving the other Tampons a bad name. And what the h*** are you doing in here with the tarpon running out there? Get your a** back in that boat and drop some line, son.
Folks, if Pres. Clinton is such a liar, why do you put so much stock in what he says? And this means that just because he’s a thorn in the side of The President, Sestak can put two Republicans out of a job, while he becomes the next Senator from PA, AND YOU ALL WILL LOVE HIM FOR IT! “OK Barney let’s look under this chair. No, no rope-a-dope over here.”
Celebrate Memorial Day — with a friend, a frank, and a flag. Thanks veterans, for everything. We couldn’t do this without you.
Chisum commented:
So, crispy critter, the babbling troll entertains us with more blather. With a tad of sanctimony and condescension for good measure.
Btw, your idiotic comment earlier:
Yeah, that’s how the Naval Academy builds ‘em. Or do ya’ll consider an Annapolis grad to be one of them there East Coast elitists?
Way to support the troops on Memorial Day people. Make it up to me; find a Veteran and thank him/her for you having the rights he/she gave you. I personally thank any veterans who may be reading this. I will remember your comrades who aren’t with us anymore but to whom I personally owe much. – An indebted and greatful nation which pauses for reflection.
Simply proves that you are an ass. Our eldest graduated from the Naval Academy.
But you keep on making stupid assumptions.
Chisum commented:
Actually, we should be grateful. At least you’ve stopped ranting about Texas cowboys.
Chkn Fryd commented:
Chisum, I swear, . . .
First, Texans, Chisum meant no slight by these remarks. I’m the target but you guys keep getting shot at.
Second, the language you take issue with is my retort to a simplistic slap issued by Conservatives at anyone ya’ll consider educated. It’s unfortunate that this also includes Conservatives going after the educational prowess of any graduate, and Sestak is one (Navy – ’74), from any of our service academies. “Ex Scientia Tridens – From knowledge, seapower,” is the motto of your child’s institution; all I have tried to do is pointout to mostly everyone else here that you can’t berate the “knowledge” part with no cost to the “seapower” side of the equation. Conservatives can’t go after the smarty pants and support the troops when the academy grads are both. This slights the service of people like your child and I won’t have it. Sestak made a 30+ year career of military service and I hope we’re better for it. I hope your kid sees service as a similar opportunity. I hope your child is safe, well, and a better person for what it took to get that academy commission. It’s through your child’s knowledge and dedication that we remain free, and I don’t take kindly to folks not respecting that. Finally, my personal thanks to you and your child for doing what it takes, and it takes a lot, to become an academy graduate.
bg commented:
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Chkn Fryd
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Chkn Fryd commented:
bg: I call your check raise, all in and this is what you come back with? A 2-3-4-7-8 combo, unsuited? Your readers deserve better. So, I’ll give it to them — “Yada yada is as yada yada does; that’s all I got to say about that.”
bg commented:
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Chkn Fryd @ 10:29 pm #137
what are you talking about..
well you may write long ‘wordy’ posts, but you not
only say nothing of substance, you prove even less..
re: [Your readers deserve better]
my readers?? gee, thanks..
and at any rate, don’t waste theirs or my time..
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AuntieMadder commented:
Either it’s a complete lie or Joe Sestak is a complete idiot.
The two options can’t be mutually exclusive because it’s obvious that Sleestack is a lying idiot.
AuntieMadder commented:
olm
May 28th, 2010 | 5:59 pm | #15
And where the hell does this leave Specter?
Oh yeah. Out of work. That part is funny.
That part is very funny.