Los Angeles to Boycott Arizona… Maybe It's Time for Arizona to Cut Off Their Lights?
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 4:28 PM
The Los Angeles City Council voted today to boycott Arizona over its new immigration law.
Reuters reported:
City Council members who voted 13-1 in favor of the punitive measure said it could affect about $8 million in contracts with Arizona, but Los Angeles must first decide which of those agreements it can break without triggering lawsuits.
Another $50 million in contracts will remain in place but the council directed city department heads to refrain from doing future business with Arizona or companies headquartered there whenever possible.
A spokesman for Arizona Governor Jan Brewer responded to the boycott later today.
The BBC reported:
A spokesman for Republican Arizona Governor Jan Brewer called the boycott “thoughtless and harmful”.
“It also appears that the Los Angeles city council appears hopelessly out of touch with most of America on this issue,” spokesman Paul Senseman said in a statement.
Maybe the LA council members forgot who supplies the city with electricity. 44% to 50% of the city’s electricity comes from neighboring states including Arizona. The Hoover Dam in Arizona has been providing electricity for Los Angeles since 1936. Los Angeles receives about 6% of its electricity from hydropower, most coming from Hoover Dam in Arizona. Another estimate says approximately 10-12 percent of the city’s electricity comes from hydroelectric power plants, with Hoover Dam, located along the Colorado River in Arizona, making up the bulk of this supply.
Los Angeles Department of Power and Water (LADWP) currently generates 50 percent of its electricity from coal power plants (another estimate says 44%) located in Nevada, Arizona and Utah making it one of the dirtiest publicly owned utilities in the country.
Arizona needs to show those idiots who the boss is.
Turn out their lights.
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Stuart commented:
I wouldn’t do business with L.A. in any case. You just might get payed off in IOUs. I think it’s time some one told California they are not the 800 pound gorilla in the room any more. We don’t care what they do. Just don’t even think about dumping your debt on the rest of us.
Jim commented:
Arizona needs to address the situation the liberal way, just put a 50 percent tax on electricity exported out of the state.
Linda Lovelle commented:
Hoover Dam is in Nevada right outside Boulder City, which is where I happen to live. FYI.
gus commented:
What does Los Angeles object to?
They don’t have any idea do they?
bill-tb commented:
Boycott Hollywood, make a real difference.
gus commented:
Los Angeles lecturing Arizona would be like Obama lecturing GREECE.
gus commented:
What is Hollywood?
Robert commented:
Considering the trash coming out of Hollywood that
they dump on the nation, they should be ashamed.
All Spun Out commented:
Yes, cut off electrical power to LA, all in the interest of the environment of course. Or at least jack up the price of power to LA to help them sink faster into the fiscal morass they seem to prefer — that would be consistent with gangster politics of LA and this administration.
gus commented:
Hoover Dam is the border between Az and Nv.
Thanks for playing Linda
Ebayer commented:
Let the Angelenos fend for themselves
B Davis commented:
They don’t even need to turn off the electricity – why give LA an excuse to sue. LA is so anxious to boycott Arizona that they presumably would agree to a mutual termination of any power contracts they have. I suggest Arizona be gracious and offer to allow LA to put its (dwindling) money where its (big) mouth is and publicly offer to allow LA to terminate all water and power agreements tomorrow in a press release addressed to the hypocrites in LA city hall.
Kevin commented:
Who runs Barter Town?
Master Blaster!
Whoooo??!!
JimNash commented:
Considering the fact that LA, like the rest of California, has no money anyway….what exactly is Arizona going to lose here?
BTW, I wonder how far in arrears LA is with what it owes Arizona for power??
ScottGrovesNC commented:
So, you’re telling me, that because of the actions of politicians in L.A, that you want to punish the people of California by rationing their electricity? There are a lot of people who don’t support what their govt is doing, or have you forgotten that?
Don’t punish the people when the govt causes the tyranny.
Is this what this country has come to? States imposing sanctions on other States? What’s next, a bloody, costly war between CA and AZ? Would that make you all happy?
Jim commented:
California has the most inhospitable environment for businesses now. LA is struggling with budget collapses and will probably declare bankruptcy within the next 1-4 years. One of the “fixes” under works in LA City is electricity rates are being raised to generate more city revenue. By all means Arizona, raise the electricity rates to LA.
Dave In Houston commented:
I think this is worth serious consideration. Let Arizona test LA’s sense of moral outrage with some power outages. Then watch the fun begin.
JimNash commented:
ScottGrovesNC
“Don’t punish the people when the govt causes the tyranny.”
—–
Two points to ponder:
1. Were talking about LA here, bank on the fact that the vast majority of residents there back their city council.
2. Most importantly…they put these bozo’s in office…year after year after failed year even!
Inter Ruption commented:
What’s next, a bloody, costly war between CA and AZ? Would that make you all happy?
Such squealing melodrama! Such blubbering concern!
Here you go. Scream this every chance you get:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWv53OJ-ydI
gus commented:
ScottGroves. Los Angeles and California are LIBTARD CESSPOOLS.
The PEOPLE are LIBTARDS. They vote for these LIBTARD HACKS.
I’m being punished by LIBTARDS voting for Opie.
If there are consequences for electing LIBTARDS, then LIBTARDS won’t get elected again.
If I am ARIZONA, I HAMMER L.A and California any way I can. Arizona is right. L.A. is wrong.
Los Angeles is punishing Arizona for upholding our nations laws and sovereignty.
Indoctrinate U commented:
BEAKING NEWS:
Phoenix CBS Affiliate, steals video from veteran for biased border story -
http://www.borderinvasionpics.com/CBSKPHO100510.html
SHAME!
Mike commented:
Pull the plug Arizona! If Los Angeles is planning to boycott the businesses and products from your state then they obviously do not want your stinking electricity. Turn off the power to their city and leave those City Council members in L.A., who voted 13-1 to show you their disdain, in the dark.
VIVA LA RAZA!! commented:
OUR LAND, OUR LATINO LEADERS -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM
SI SE PUEDE!
THIS... IS CNN commented:
To live and die in L.A. – Sanctuary city
http://www.ISupportJamielsLaw.com
StrangernFiction commented:
((((Hey ScottGroves)))) I am one of the proud non-libtards that lives in the PRC (no offense taken gus) and I say turn the effing lights off! Someone has to act somewhere, because this is WAY BEYOND RIDICULOUS NOW!
Paul N. Marston commented:
The largest nuclear power generating plant in the country is located in Wintersburg Arizona. 5.7% of this plant is owned by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. Another 5.9% is owned by Southern California Public Power Authority. Still another 15.8% is owned by Southern California Edison. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station for proof.
The liberals running California were not about to let a nuclear power plant be built in California but they are happy to let their utilities by a piece of one built in Arizona. Since those California utilities own 27.4% of this plant and get at least 27.4% of the 3.2 gigawatts output to light Southern California, they should immediately divest themselves of this ownership and stop using that 877 megawatts they get from Arizona.
In particular, the Los Angeles City Council should vote to sell off that 5.7% share they own. After all, I am sure the citizens would be happy to endure the resulting brown-outs if this “contaminated” power was no longer available from these three utilities. Heck, they might even make a profit on the sale so they could lower their deficit. Can anyone say hypocrisy to the max?
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Didn’t California have one of the biggest Tea Party rallies lately?
Saying that, I guess you all think everyone that lives there bows down to the govt, huh?
And, I guess you all love to punish other fellow Americans, right?
Just think, this could happen to the state you all live in, and everyone will want you to be punished because of your local govt’s actions.
Nice. So, when do the bombs start falling on the civilians of these 2 states? We need a good war because there aren’t enough of them in the world, might as well annihilate our cities this go around.
jonyjoe101 commented:
Like tina turner said to madmax and I quote “bust a deal and face the wheel”
With this economy all the states need to be looking out for each other, instead of the illegals/Mexico.
I guess to LA illegals disrespecting the US flag is acceptable. Like the UK which is scared of the muslims, the LA city council is scared of the illegals and won’t upset them.
gus commented:
This nonsense doesn’t fly. The silent majority is no longer silent. The corrupt media can call us any names they like. They’ve cried WOLF once to often. People like McCain, Graham and Bob Bennet, hid under their mommies skirts when LIBTARDS yelled and pointed at them. The capitulated to Marxists and the LaRaza crowd. In doing so they abandoned the tax paying God fearing citizens that pay the freight.
NO MORE. NO MORE HOPE AND CHANGE.
It’s time for CHANGE AND MORE CHANGE.
The duty of any government is to look out for those who pay the bills. WE PAY THE BILLS.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“WAY BEYOND RIDICULOUS NOW!”
I agree 1000%
Joanne commented:
Yes, raise the rates of electricity, and tell them they need to money to help enforce their new immigration law. Bwhahahahaha! I would imagine the backlash from the people would make the politicians rethink their dumb idea to punish Arizona.
Kevin commented:
Los Angeles has turned into a third world rat hole, and it’s run by people that have no allegiance to our Founding Fathers, Constitution, or to the security of our southern border.
This will last for a little while, and then when the Dodgers, Lakers, Clippers, and Kings go to Phoenix to play the Phoenix teams, it will be a forgotten moment in time for these anti Western Culture bums that run L.A.
In turn, the people of Arizona, along with the rest of us, should boycott any trips to the L.A. area, all Hollyweird movies, movie channels, and any music being produced in Hollyweird.
Two can play that game L.A.
bitterclinger commented:
AZ, I recommend you jack up the electricity rates to cover your shortfalls from doofuses like the LA Council. Gee, maybe they’d have to drill for oil or something to pay to build their own power plant.
rider commented:
Scott# 16 –
We lovers of the Republic-
who live in LA
are all for Arizona performing ‘quid pro quo’ on LA,CA—
maybe the rest of our fellow citizens who are libs -will wake up-
when their air conditioners don’t work this summer—
Arizona-have at it!!!!!
C-CS
aro5o75 commented:
Considering all businesses Mexifornia ran out of the state with ridiculous taxes and other penalties…..it won’t be long before they find themselves unable to boycott anything.
non_dhimmie commented:
Unintended consequences….every move a commie makes has unintended consequences…..
Charge Arizona mega bucks for Arizona’s watts…..’
So sweet Mr. Hoft…
StrangernFiction commented:
Scott, it is PAST time for people in this country to wake up. Sparing the innocents is becoming increasingly problematic. Time to anti up.
You can keep telling yourself that it’ll be alright. You just keep telling yourself that. Perhaps you have a special line into the Man (or Woman ofcourse) upstairs. Who knows anymore. It makes about as much sense as anything else.
Inter Ruption commented:
Nice. So, when do the bombs start falling on the civilians of these 2 states? We need a good war because there aren’t enough of them in the world, might as well annihilate our cities this go around.
Yes, because urging Arizona to respond to a destructive, politically correct boycott is the same as saying we support bombing the civilians of the two states.
How old are you, eleven?
Rachelle commented:
If a contract is not terminated for a valid reason, then the party terminating the contract is in default and will probably be liable for damages and attorneys’ fees.
I very much doubt that not liking a state’s legislation constitutes a proper reason for termination.
Los Angeles may end up in breach of contract and liable for substantial damages.
No wonder they are going broke.
gus commented:
Libtards are stunted at about 11. They want Mommy and Daddy to pay for their f@#$ ups.
They want dessert and you pay. They want no consequences for their acts.
Squishy wusses are afraid to act because acting may cause some pain. If we fight back it will be ugly. This country is being RAPED by the LEFT and homie don’t play that.
It’s time to fight back HARD.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
StrangernFiction:
I have woke up my friend, I’m trying to save the Republic instead of destroying it. That includes saving the citizens and not destroying each other.
The war should not be between the 2 states, it should be against the parties responsible for this BS and the division it is causing in this nation.
I don’t know about you all, but I feel the Elites are pitting us against each other so we will fight each other to the death, to do their dirty work for them. I’m not in favor of fighting my fellow American, but I am all in favor of fighting the enemy who wants to win at all costs against us.
TaSS commented:
Scott,
The problem is California has decided, with or without the support of it’s people (and in my best guess, this move was political pandering to the constitutents) to impose sanctions on Arizona, for a law they deemed necessary for their state. The decision belonged to Arizona, not California.
Anything that Arizona now does in response is also the right of Arizona.
Why aren’t you on this board tearing apart California if you are so concerned with peaceful co-exsistence between the states? California has no right to impose it’s will on the people of Arizona.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption
What do nations hell bent on war do to the nations they want to attack?
They impose economic sanctions, just like L.A. is doing to AZ.
A war between the states is not a fantasy, it’s a reality.
Do you remember a little thing called the Civil War, and how it was started?
See, notice how I replied back to you without attacking you or your age. It’s called a discussion, try it once in a while.
Inter Ruption commented:
I don’t know about you all, but I feel the Elites are pitting us against each other so we will fight each other to the death, to do their dirty work for them.
You’re the only hysteric talking about “fighting to the death.” Nobody else is.
I think you’re a phony. You’re warning us against something that isn’t happening. Your whole position is a giant straw man. You sound a lot like Obama.
gus commented:
What a sniveling sissy.
chili palmer commented:
Probably a ‘concern’ troll. I was shocked to learn from the BBC that Governor Brewer is (gasp) a republican. Also, read boycott by a city is not accurate term and is not constitutional. That what they actually mean is ‘embargo.’
ScottGrovesNC commented:
TaSS:
The people who are paying the politicians in Cali are the ones who are starting this. The politicians aren’t listening to us, they’re listening to their handlers.
I agree that AZ has every right to defend itself. One of the reasons for the Constitution is for the federal govt to protect AZ in this type of predicament. But, then again, if the federal govt was following the Constitution, this would all be moot, right?
I agree that Cali is the culprit here and they should be punished for these actions against fellow Americans. Again, it should be the federal govt that punishes them, but… It is not the people of the state inflicting damage on AZ, it’s the Elites and their pawns they put in power.
Could you, or would you all go without electricity for more than a couple of days? I highly doubt it.
Inter Ruption commented:
What do nations hell bent on war do to the nations they want to attack?
They impose economic sanctions, just like L.A. is doing to AZ.
A war between the states is not a fantasy, it’s a reality.
Do you remember a little thing called the Civil War, and how it was started?
See, notice how I replied back to you without attacking you or your age. It’s called a discussion, try it once in a while.
Sweetheart, the Civil War wasn’t between a city and a state. You’re worried that Los Angeles is going to go to war with Arizona? The Los Angeles Army will invade?
As for the Civil War, it happened when half the states in the union tried to secede. Are you worried that Los Angeles will secede and form its own country? Let it. We all need the entertainment. We can watch President for Life Villaraigosa and his cabinet of freaks with speech impediments run the smallest, most corrupt new nation on earth into the ground.
And don’t give me the “let’s be civil” Obamaism. You’re the guy who accused everyone here of wanting to go to war with their fellow citizens. Here’s what you said:
What’s next, a bloody, costly war between CA and AZ? Would that make you all happy?
So you can cram your fake civility. You tried the usual leftist demonizing tactics here, and I called you on them.
TaSS commented:
And I might also point out, the government in Arizona has not placed any sanctions on California. That was California which does not seem to respect state’s rights.
We, the citizens of the United States, now get a chance to respond.
Every action brings a reaction. Perhaps, if we give California a good enough reaction, they’ll think twice before imposing sanctions on another state again.
SoldiersMom commented:
You would think O’Reilly would be all over calling for a boycott of LA. He’s big on boycotts as long as they don’t cost him anything – i.e., California viewers. Who knows, if he loses some CA viewers, it might knock him from #1. O’Reilly also said it wasn’t smart of Trey and Matt (South Park creators) to do a parody of Mohammad.
O’Reilly, courageous man of steel, as long as they can’t hit back. He’s just looking out for the folks, unless helping the folks may hurt him.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
I’m the only one here that is hysterical? Really?
Who’s here calling for electricity for a whole state to be shut down?
Bring on the insults, I’m a big boy and can handle it. I’m even big boy enough to use my real name while posting my opinion and beliefs.
Inter Ruption commented:
Could you, or would you all go without electricity for more than a couple of days? I highly doubt it.
Ah. So now you’re concerned about Californians not having power. Bless you. You’re just full of concern, aren’t you?
As a Californian, I say “Shut us off, Arizona!” I’ve got a generator. And Arizona would only have to do it for a couple of days.
After a couple of days the entire state would rise up against our government here for starting all this.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
So, you’re okay with losing the ports where a lot of our goods come into the United States if LA or Cali secedes? You can handle the loss of food, etc, that’s shipped into there?
Please tell me where I have spouted anything Barry has ever said or something that supports his ideology.
Was it all the mentions of the Constitution I posted that made you think I’m an Barry lover or something?
Inter Ruption commented:
I’m the only one here that is hysterical? Really?
Really. You’re accusing us here of wanting wars on each other, wanting to bomb each other, etc.
You are hysterical. None of what you’re warning against is going to happen. None of it.
Arizona isn’t even going to shut off the minority of power it sends to California. You’re getting the vapors for no reason at all.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
“After a couple of days the entire state would rise up against our government here for starting all this.”
So, you want violence to solve this problem?
p.s. does everyone in Cali own generators?
Inter Ruption commented:
So, you’re okay with losing the ports where a lot of our goods come into the United States if LA or Cali secedes? You can handle the loss of food, etc, that’s shipped into there?
The comedy value would be worth it. Plus, all the shipping would just go to Seattle, where it’s going anyway because of the stupid pollution laws California has enacted recently.
Please tell me where I have spouted anything Barry has ever said or something that supports his ideology.
You’re a straw-man constructor extraordinaire, just like our beloved president. You’re accusing everyone here of supporting wars against each other, when that is utterly false.
You’re congenitally dishonest, like our prez.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
TaSS:
“And I might also point out, the government in Arizona has not placed any sanctions on California. That was California which does not seem to respect state’s rights.
We, the citizens of the United States, now get a chance to respond.
Every action brings a reaction. Perhaps, if we give California a good enough reaction, they’ll think twice before imposing sanctions on another state again.”
I agree 100% with what you said, but I will add:
It needs to be done without harm to fellow U.S. citizens.
Inter Ruption commented:
So, you want violence to solve this problem?
The term “rise up” doesn’t necessarily connote violence. Sorry. You need to lie down and catch your breath, hon. You’re all overheated.
Inter Ruption commented:
It needs to be done without harm to fellow U.S. citizens.
We’ll survive. Go worry about your own state.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
What makes you think Seattle would help out? They’re just as radical as you Californians.
But wait, you’re a “different” Californian who isn’t responsible for the politicians who were voted in.
Am I getting this right?
Inter Ruption commented:
p.s. does everyone in Cali own generators?
They should. The four seasons in California:
Fire, flood, earthquake, and riot.
Inter Ruption commented:
What makes you think Seattle would help out?
M-O-N-E-Y.
Like I said, shipping is already going there.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
“We’ll survive. Go worry about your own state.”
Yeah, you all have that great budget surplus going for you, right? Everything is peachy there!
If Cali fails, the whole country fails, you know that, don’t you? YOUR state is the key to our Republic’s demise or success, your economy dictates what happens to the rest of us.
So, in short, I do worry about not only my state of NC (which wants to be the Cali of the south) but I have to care what happens to your state.
TaSS commented:
Scott,
It’s all fun and games till someone loses their air-conditioning?
California is already out to apply economic harm to Arizona and if this succeeds, you may just be looking at larger states trying to impose their will on smaller states by the same bullying techniques.
We cannot allow this to succeed and the action has to be taken with California.
Inter Ruption commented:
But wait, you’re a “different” Californian who isn’t responsible for the politicians who were voted in.
Boy, you’re a confused little fella, aren’t you? First you said the citizens of California shouldn’t be punished for the actions of their officials; now, you’re saying the citizens are responsible for electing their officials.
If Californians are responsible for electing these people–and they are–they should suffer all the fallout that their officials bring down on them.
It’s a kind of political Darwinism.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
“M-O-N-E-Y. ”
Really????? Cali is loaded with cash nowadays, isn’t it.
Are you now calling for higher taxes so the rest of the nation can pay for it?
Inter Ruption commented:
If Cali fails, the whole country fails, you know that, don’t you? YOUR state is the key to our Republic’s demise or success, your economy dictates what happens to the rest of us.
Texas would disagree.
Ladue Pundit commented:
CA is in a bad position due to the low wattage of its leaders. Just look at who’s elected in CA:
Pelosi
Waxman
Boxer
Feinstein
Newsom
Those 2 hispanic sisters
Villaragosa
Harman
This is a top-down problem. It can only be fixed at the grassroots level.
Inter Ruption commented:
Are you now calling for higher taxes so the rest of the nation can pay for it?
Man, you’re flailing around like a landed catfish now. What’s this non sequitur supposed to mean?
I think I’ve proven to everyone’s satisfaction that you’re just another performance artist having fun. You’re not serious about anything, are you?
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Tass:
Where did I say “air-conditioning”? I’m talking about all electricity for businesses and homes.
Shutting down the electricity is an act of war because no one can do any commerce, no one could get any gas, street lights don’t work, etc.
Quit sending any more money to Cali if you want to, at least it doesn’t shut down the infrastructure of a town or state.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“Texas would disagree.”
Yeah, Texas is in good hands with Perry, who hasn’t done anything about illegal immigration also.
You can’t rely on a Governor that doesn’t protect his people either.
Did you see where Texas has a budget shortfall now?
Ladue Pundit commented:
If Cali fails, the whole country fails, you know that, don’t you? YOUR state is the key to our Republic’s demise or success, your economy dictates what happens to the rest of us.
————-
Another straw man. California can fall in the ocean. They are more of a drain on this country than anything. Then we wouldn’t have to bail them out.
If Californians felt a little pain because of their moronic elected officials, things might change. A quid pro quo here would be the best thing.
JKB commented:
Also, they aren’t going to go after US Airways either. Also, the boycott could impact $52million in contracts but the co-sponsor says it will probably only affect $7-8 million. That’s commitment Source
Arizonans should turn up the A/C this summer and brown out SOCAL.
Ladue Pundit commented:
Texas has an $8 billion rainy day fund. What does California have? Oh yeah, $550 BILLION of unfunded union pensions!
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“You’re not serious about anything, are you?”
Oh, I’m serious all right. It sounds like you’re the one who hasn’t thought out what the endgame of this country is going to be if we all don’t join together to fight the tyranny in going on in DC and Wall Street.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/05/11/2182263/texas-budget-shortfall-widens.html
Texas budget shortfall widens to $18 billion
Posted Tuesday, May. 11, 2010
Inter Ruption commented:
Ah. So now the budget shortfall in Texas is due to California’s economic woes. Of course!
I found a video of you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgb-JDLIOG0
Inter Ruption commented:
“Oh, I’m serious all right.”
Yes, that’s what you accused everyone here of wanting to go to war against each other, bomb each other, and so on.
A deeply serious thinker, you are.
DaveinPhoenix commented:
Boycott Arizona – cool idea ! I guess that means we Arizonans shut down the border then too. No more yuppy slimeballs bailing out of the sh**hole they’ve created and moving here to turn Arizona into the yuppy paradise they left behind in shambles. No more drug infested, crime ridden, tree hugging wierdos moving here by the thousands. Great idea !
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“If Californians felt a little pain because of their moronic elected officials, things might change.”
Let’s see if you’re willing to put up with a little “pain” then, let’s see who is the elected officials in your state, and we’ll shut everything down for a while, okay?
You’d be crying for help after a couple of days to get back to your life without “pain”.
Inter Ruption commented:
Whatever’s necessary, Dave in Phoenix. As a Californian, I give you my blessing to fight back however you see fit.
If you cause us enough pain, Californians might wake up to the imbecilic political decisions we’ve made.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“Ah. So now the budget shortfall in Texas is due to California’s economic woes. Of course!”
No, you were the one who said we could rely on Texas if Cali secedes. Your grasping at your ideology now.
Inter Ruption commented:
Okay, it’s official: He’s a concern troll.
Inter Ruption commented:
Nope. I said Texas would disagree that California’s economic condition determines the overall economic health of the country.
You can’t even read, apparently.
Chisum commented:
““Texas would disagree.”
Yeah, Texas is in good hands with Perry, who hasn’t done anything about illegal immigration also.
You can’t rely on a Governor that doesn’t protect his people either.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Perry has activated the Texas National Guard on the border at the expense of the State because BO has refused federal aid.
Does that sound like someone who “doesn’t protect his people?”
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“Does that sound like someone who “doesn’t protect his people?””
Yeah, I see that he said he won’t pass a law like AZ did in TX.
Great guy.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
Inter Ruption:
Keep the insults coming because you don’t have answers to my questions.
You insult better than you can debate.
Sad.
Chisum commented:
“Yeah, I see that he said he won’t pass a law like AZ did in TX.
Great guy.”
+++++++++++++++++++++
I realize that you are a really deep thinker, however has it occurred to you that AZ’s law might not be compatible with TX law?
ScottGrovesNC commented:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/30/rick-perry-no-arizona-style-immigration-law-for-texas-thanks/
Rick Perry: No Arizona-style immigration law for Texas, thanks
Alternate headline: “Rick Perry awfully worried about the Latino vote in this year’s gubernatorial election.”
He sure does care about the illegals of his state, and not the people who are actually citizens.
ScottGrovesNC commented:
“I realize that you are a really deep thinker, however has it occurred to you that AZ’s law might not be compatible with TX law?”
I knew you’d come back with this type of reply, so I posted a link for you to read above this post.
Happy reading!
Chisum commented:
From your link:
““I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas,” Perry said in a written statement.”
For instance:
In states that issue drivers licenses to illegals, like NM, AZ law would be incompatible.
But you knew that, right? Since you live in a border state and are familiar with their laws.
aprilnovember811 commented:
BOYCOTT HOLLYWOOD! NO MOVIES EVERYONE! MAKE THEM PAY FOR THE MESS THEY VOTED INTO OFFICE. AND TURN OUT THEIR LIGHTS!
Scott commented:
California, the worst of all hippocrates…Illegal alien cheap labor is not unlike slavery in the ante-bellum South. Slavery was a sin and its practice ruined the South for generations…And, California’s wholesale practice of using illegals is likewise sinful and it will costs the sovereignty of this once great state…As the Roman empire became the vandals, goths, and the slaves it brought to the empire, California is becoming a foreign land as it becomes an extension of Mexico…
Inter Ruption commented:
“Keep the insults coming because you don’t have answers to my questions.”
Yes, I’m stymied by your towering intellect. Like this, for example:
“What’s next, a bloody, costly war between CA and AZ? Would that make you all happy?”
How can a mere human answer such a penetrating question? I’m simply incapable. I have been humbled by your centrifuge of a brain.
retire05 commented:
ScottGrovesNC, perhaps you haven’t noticed, but the Hispanics in Texas are not taking to the streets, waving their red flags of communism. That is happening in California.
But hey, California has always thought that it was so much better than anyone else. When it was going in the toilet under Gray Davis, it was buying much of its electicity from Texas, and stiffing us for the bill. Rich Perry had enough, and told Davis, no more electricity on credit and you will get limites supplies until you pay your debt to us.
Massive brownouts occured in California because Davis, being the egotistical elitist Dem he was thought he could pressure Texas into giving them more electricity on credit. He couldn’t, and we didn’t.
So maybe those of us who support Arizona should start a list of California companies that we can boycott. After all, it’s the liberals way, right?
Inter Ruption commented:
“So maybe those of us who support Arizona should start a list of California companies that we can boycott. After all, it’s the liberals way, right?”
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Absolutely! As a Californian, I approve. The state is swirling the drain, but our elected officials refuse to stop taxing and spending. The sooner we crater, the sooner we can begin the long climb out of the abyss.
I recommend everyone boycott us. Do it for Arizona and us Californians who can’t afford to leave but are horrified at the dysfunction here.
retire05 commented:
BTW, ScottGrovesNC, how many companies has Rick Perry stolen from California? Toyota ring a bell?
As to our budget shortfall, it is offset by our “rainy day” fund of $9 billion. And while California is still bleeding jobs, Texas unemployment actually went down in April, 2010 to 8.2%. Obviously you didn’t know that Texas has a balanced budget law. Or that we appropriated $4 million of our own money to pay for the TxNG on our borders.
Obama should hope for those numbers.
wanumba commented:
I rather like a scene inspired by that great moment in the Ten Commandments when Moses stands above the partying and mocking mob of Israelites and says something awesome like:, “The CHOICE is YOURS! LIGHT AND GOOD AND RIGHT or DARKNESS AND EVIL!!!”
A bunch of people fight their way thru the hedonistic, idol-worshipping drunken rabble and then Moses heaves the tablets which smash against the golden calf, a fissure opens, fire shoots up and lightening zaps all the actors and actresses, extras and their producers!
Arizona could do that – blare out the call at the state line I-10 and I-40 to all Californians, wait till all those who want to cross over, and then flick off the electricity. Buh BYE!
That’s fair.
wanumba commented:
AZ has open carry, BTW.
nadadhimmi commented:
The fantasy of war between L.A. and Arizona is to ludicrous to even consider. We’re talking about hunters and shooters in Arizona, and cheap gangbangers in L.A. that couldn’t hit the broad side of Elena Kagan’s ass. Some of those ole boys in Arizona still have some rough bark on them.
jon commented:
I live in Los Angeles and have started boycotting L.A. & Mexifornia by buying out of state. Especially computer monitors and laptops so you not only save the 9.75 sales tax but also the $16.00 recycling fee for LCD screens. Drugstore.com and Tigers Direct have saved me money and have keeped $$ away from my city and state. I also try to buy ouside the county of L.A. whenever possible. Starve the beast!!
mrt commented:
Arizona companies need to do a little boycotting of their own.
I’d love to see Tempe, Arizona-based LifeLock boycott all clients in L.A. and every other ‘sanctuary’ city.
These clients do not need the service LifeLock provides, anyway.
Illegals would NEVER steal their identities, now would they?
Sojourner commented:
SUPPORT THE AZ BUYCOTT:
http://www.buycottarizona.com/
then.. GO TO ONE OF THE SUPPORT
SB 1070 RALLIES
http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/we-support-sb-1070-rally-june-5-4-7-pm-at-az-capitol/
(Give em’ Hell, Jan.. pull the plug!)
Elizabeth commented:
It’s time for Balkinization.
Please!
Kevin commented:
If Los Angeles were to have a really bad earthquake (which I hope never happens) does this mean the city Government of L.A. wouldn’t accept any help for emergency responders from Arizona?
I mean after all, if you’re going to boycott them L.A., go all the way with it. Right? Right? (clearing his throat)
JoseyWales commented:
As a former Arizonian, I can testify that Arizona residents don’t care what anyone from Cali-La-La-Land thinks or says. Bring it on California!! Boycott everything from California and turn off their power. Actions have consequences and sometimes people have to learn the hard way.
ScottGrovesNC is truly having the vapors tonight. If some kind of shooting war starts between the two states or between Arizona and LA (which it won’t), I’ll be betting big time on the Grand Canyon State. Them ole boys can shoot and open carry exists. CCW? We don’t need no stinkin’ CCW!!!
Most of California, and LA in particular, is a cesspool that needs to fall into the ocean. Do the rest of the country a favor.
Hillbillybjopkr1 commented:
While I 100% agree with AZ and what there doing, and while I 100% agree that L.A. need to fall off the face of the planet, all that I ask is don’t boycott/embargo whatever the folk in extream Northern Cali. We up here absolutly detest what is going on in our state but are powerless to stop it. There isn’t enough of a voting population to overpower S.F. or L.A. Hell, Our farmers up here constantly don’t get the water they need for their crops cause So. Cal. is greedy….or their politions shut off the water to protect some lilly livered flying shimp or w/e. Up we are suffering worse because of the misleadership running rampant and any and all funding going south. The Folks from Woodland up are way more right leaning than the retards down south. If you’d like to help some of us up here go to http://www.jeffersonstate.com, We still desperatly want to seperate the state and flee the sinkin ship befor we’re all drug down with it
GP commented:
Too bad the Hoover Dam is owned by the US Bureau of Reclamation, not the State of Arizona…nice try.
deathstar commented:
California is a septic pimple on the arse of the planet.
24AheadDotCom commented:
This suggestion is about what I’ve come to expect: it would compound the problem without solving anything. Further, the Council and the DWP are two different entities and there’s currently a dispute between them, meaning that it’s not likely that the DWP is going to seek to dissolve long-term and extremely vital contracts.
A better thing to do would be to point out that one of the Councilmembers – who’s currently running for Lt. Gov. – doesn’t appear to have read or understood the law:
http://24ahead.com/n/9979
Send her a tweet: @JaniceHahn
wanumba commented:
An LA boycott of AZ isn’t going to be noticed. They aren’t paying their bills right now. Just phony righteousness and posturing to cover the crap they’ve created of that once vibrant city.
Democrats ruin everything they touch. AZ is dealing with Janet “Man-made-disaster” Napolitano’s (DD for Democrat Debacle) 6 years of failed policies and irresponsible deficit spending, quitting and leaving the “Napolitano Deficit” for poor Jan Brewer (R) to clean up.
Does Democrat-Degraded LA plan to bulldoze some neighborhoods like Democrat-Destroyed Detroit?
Look at NYC. Democrats called it “Ungovernable” then Giuliani (R for RIGHT) proved it wasn’t, now Bloomberg (RINO PSDW Party -Shifter Democrat Weasel) is running it back into the ground again.
Proves that DEMOCRATS do not know how to govern. Period.
Paloma commented:
I live in Los Angeles County and was horrified that the Los Angeles City Council 13-1 passed such a ridiculous resolution against Arizona. The lone holdout was Greg Smith. All websites for the City of Los Angeles are down. Their vote was short-sighted and I believe they will eventually realize the error of their action. Business relationships are too entertwined to dismiss so lightly. The Arizona legislature will soon consider adding electrical wires to carry additional energy to Los Angeles and San Francisco. The City of Los Angeles does not represent my opinion. I believe in the Constitution and in observing the laws of the land. Illegal means doing something against the law. Before objecting to the Arizona law, please read it first.
peter commented:
If you wonder at LA City Council’s actions consider that LA city is 10% illegal alien, and 3/4th of entire city’s population of 4 mil are either recent green card/illegal immigrants here less than 25 years, or US-born anchor offspring of illegals. Vast majority of these immigrants/anchors are Latinos.
I have called for a tourism boycott of LA on my twitter, facebook, and blogsite. LA is such a 3rd world gang- infested ghetto craphole that no one with any brains would visit LA unless you have a hard-on for graffiti-ed bullet-ridden crack shacks and gangstas packing heat & cruising around in lowered monte carlos.
http://californiaisathirdworldcesspool.blogspot.com/2010/03/snapshot-of-la-avenues-gang-la-gang.html
http://californiaisathirdworldcesspool.blogspot.com/2010/01/la-gang-tours-google-search.html
http://californiaisathirdworldcesspool.blogspot.com/2010/04/proposed-economic-boycott-of-arizona.html
jann commented:
I was listening to kfi640 tonight and the citizens of LA and SoCal are sooooo angry with these council members!!! There will be a backlash and we all support AZ, there also will be a buycott outside of LA city and for our smart neighbors. The people have had enough, if I lived in LA city I would move out to a different county or out of the state because as long as LA has their arms open to the illegals LA is going to get crazier!!! Life is too short and to straighten out the government will take a while oh but it will happen. We citizens that agree with AZ need to support AZ peacefully and legally, period. If you need something to do this weekend go to AZ and see Sarah Palin speak, or go the river or Grand Canyon something possitive. The trolls can spew all they want, we can spot you a mile away and your argument sounds silly. So keep talking at least we can keep track of you that way. Can you believe this is finally happening??!!! As bad as it is it’s the best thing, all for the world to see!
Derak commented:
Could you, or would you all go without electricity for more than a couple of days? I highly doubt it.
^^^^^ Scott above^^
Son? Listen up. That is exactly what’s a comin’ your way. Soon. Most of us who comprehend what’s a comin’ are ready.
You? Still hopen’ yer on the right side so they don’t eat you.
LOL commented:
lol. I’m ECSTATIC that my city voted to boycott your state over this law. Forget the immigration issue, anyone who would support giving the police the right to stop anyone (just out of mere suspicion) and force them to present papers doesn’t understand the Bill of Rights, anything this country was founded on, and, quite frankly, doesn’t deserve to live in this country.
The population of the City of Los Angeles is greater than that of the entire state of AZ. Want to boycott? Bring it… LOL
logprof commented:
LOL has not even read the Arizona statute.
FAIL
lulz
Inter Ruption commented:
“Forget the immigration issue, anyone who would support giving the police the right to stop anyone (just out of mere suspicion) and force them to present papers doesn’t understand the Bill of Rights, anything this country was founded on, and, quite frankly, doesn’t deserve to live in this country.”
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Since the Arizona law doesn’t say that, just what the heck are you jabbering about?
von commented:
Don`t cut the lights to California.
Raise the rates!
Make California pay for their boycott.
bertogem commented:
Not just electricity but water, too. The Colorado River provides some large percentage of LA’s water, including the water in the All America canal that 60 Minutes was moaning about a few weeks ago, wringing their hands at all the illegals drowning in the Canal. There’s noting like a good, old-fashioned, Western water war. Cut it off!
Chris commented:
Interesting situation — causing these already dim bulbs to glow even dimmer, as if that’s intellectually possible.
Instead of Dumb and Dumber — Dim and Dimmer.
Sounds about right.
TJ commented:
So now jurisdictions should declare financial war on each other when they disagree over policies?
Wasn’t the point of sovereign states to allow differences in states policies? Didn’t the founding fathers recognize that people had a right to self governance and therefore kept the states sovereign?
The LA city council vote is an affront to the sovereignty of the State of Arizona.
Paloma commented:
Remember in our original fight for independence from the tyranny of England, a flag was created of a snake chopped into 13 pieces which said “Join or Die!” Few of us are satisfied with the way our elected officials have been conducting business lately. We have the power to unite and vote them out of office. Those who say we deserve what we get don’t understand that we did our research to the best of our ability and voted for the ones who seemed to present the best problem-solving abilities. We were duped. But we can vote them out in 2010 and 2012. My new mantra is “No Incumbents.” Let us not stoop to name-calling and in-fighting but doing our research and share information with each other so we can do away with stupid, greedy, posturing politicians who have sold us out on so many levels. We should be concerned about all states because we are the United States of America. And we are a kind, hard-working group of people who have built this nation. Let’s act like the fantastic people we are and do our job, as one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.
JJ commented:
“Los Angeles lecturing Arizona would be like Obama lecturing GREECE.”
Gus…you are the post of the day!!!!!!!
Hooahh!
JJ commented:
Just think, this could happen to the state you all live in, and everyone will want you to be punished because of your local govt’s actions.
Uh, I’m in Ky, didn’t even see ONE Mexican flag here on Cinco De Mayonnaise day.
Think again……Mexicans come here to cut tobacco, then return to AZ, Texas, and Ca. for their checks…(smiley face)
greenfairie commented:
I’m in San Diego and I say, “Shut it off, Arizona!” I’m sick of the posturing and pandering by these leftist politicians. They care more about foreigners in our country illegally than they do about fellow Americans. That cheatin’ incompetent bum Villaraigosa makes Marion Barry look like Rudy Giuliani.
Ladue Pundit commented:
Paloma
May 13th, 2010 | 9:19 am | #125
My new mantra is “No Incumbents.”
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Don’t be a fool. There are many good incumbents, for example, Todd Akin (R-MO).
Follow your own advice and do some research. Get informed. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
From west to east commented:
When will this country and it’s highly educated people ever agree on what is good for this country as a whole? Take it one state at the time. And who has the right to say that the way a problem should be solved is right or wrong. Up to this point other methods have not worked, in this situation. I applaud the bold and unpopalar move that the governor of Az made. When it comes time for states problems to be solved are you going to idlely sit back and close your eyes and wait for the problem to fix itself? Or complain at every decision made as being the wrong one. I think we should all pull out our crystal balls and know………….. we have all the right answers.
Arius commented:
I’m starting to really like Arizona.
BigDawg commented:
From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L.. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal aliens.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10.. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . )
(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare . Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens .
We are fools for letting this continue
catchesthewind commented:
I for one will boycott anything Kalifornia. I will not pay to see a movie. Through the power of the internet I will purchase from companies in AZ. When I order flowers i will pick an Arizona florist. I will urge my friends to do the same. I am only one but this I will do.
Paloma commented:
Ladue Pundit
May 13th, 2010 | 11:23 am | #129
“Follow your own advice and do some research. Get informed. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.”
Absolutely excellent advice. But look who is representing me in my state – Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, and Gavin Newsome (“Like it or not, here it comes!”) is running for Lt. Gov. The new people up for election I am definitely researching. I am happy you have a good person, Todd Akin, in Missouri. Ms. Pelosi sends me into extreme agitation, Ms. Boxer does not vote in a manner to my liking so I am researching the person opposing her. Mayor Gavin Newsome made San Francisco a sanctuary city for illegal aliens. There are a very few in Congress, such as David Dreier, I like so I do not plan on “throwing out the baby with the bath water.” It felt good to shout “No Incombents” but as the anger dissipated, reality and common sense set in. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify myself.
Nahanni commented:
What California and the rest of the deep bleu states like New York, Illinois, Michigan, etc. do not understand is that they need us much more then we need them.
At the rate that they and their regime are pushing it I can see a time in the not so distant future where the red states tell the bleu ones to go to hell. It is already happening in subtle and not-quite-so-subtle ways. Just wait until we are asked to bail out California, New York, Illinois and Michigan.
AuntieMadder commented:
ScottGrovesNC, do you think the AZ products and services that CA and others want boycotted just magically materialize or happen? Of course they don’t. Those products and services are produced or performed by people. Boycott those products and services, the business those people work for make no money, those people lose their jobs and then can’t buy food, pay rent/mortgage, or pay for electricity.
So, you’re saying it’s okay for the gov of CA to put AZ people out on the streets, without food and definitely without electricity but it’s not okay for people in LA to live without power. Idiot.
Rock commented:
California declare a war ha, and pay for it how? Hopefully they are not counting on Arnold, it appears he is a little past his prime, but they could use Michael Moore as a tank. Really you have to ask yourself what is the mentality of the freaks in charge in phonyland. Do they even understand the amount of revenue tourism brings to the state, and they want it jeopardize it with this off the wall loony behavior.
Joey commented:
Arizona has a population of 6.5 million people according to Google. Los Angeles County has a population of 9.86 million. San Diego County has a population of 3 million. That’s almost twice the population of the entire state of Arizona. I’m not even including the other counties like Riverside, San Bernardino (2m), Ventura (2.1m), etc. I’m intentionally leaving out Orange County (3m).
Turning off the electricity will just turn ~13 million angry Californians against Arizona.
Noone commented:
Get the the facts straight Hover dam is not part of Arizona or any other state. So to cut off electrical power to Los Angeles from Hover dam the Federal Government will have to approve it. So good luck you Two Faced Nazi Thugs. Also stay out of California we don’t need you or want your dirty money.
http://www.hooverdambypass.org/faq.htm
Q. WHO “OWNS” THE HOVER DAM?
A. The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, a bureau within the United States Department of Interior, owns the Hoover Dam and its facilities. U.S. 93 uses the top of the Hoover Dam to cross the Colorado River. This crossing and the highway approaches on both the Nevada and Arizona sides are currently maintained by the Federal government. Because of the federal ownership of the river crossing, federal highway funding for a new river crossing is being pursued. Long-term maintenance and ownership of a new river crossing will be the responsibility of the state DOTs.
Mr Bartelby commented:
Do it.. I welcome it. just how fast do you think Arizona would survive? You bunch of cowboys go ahead. It’ll make the push for green energy even more needed. It’ll just bring Arizona’s crash faster.
P.S. can you do california a favor and boycott california? I’d rather have more civil tourists than the ZONIES coming out every summer. go to hell in your hellhole of a state and burn every summer I think you guys deserve it.
MR. Morrison commented:
I live in California, not LA. I am for Arizona enforcing the immigration laws the federal government has been ignoring for decades.
Most Californians support Arizonas law so please don’t confuse us with the idiots that run Los Angeles.
We are working hard to vote against anyone who is for amnesty, and to recall those who fail to publically speak out against illegal immigration.
I believe that Arizona should not reward bad behavior and should in fact cut the supply of power to the “city” of Los Angeles. This will surely help in the removal of those officials who put illegal immigrants before its own citizens. The enforcement of our immigration laws will help California with many of our economic problems, including state and local budgets for social services, jobs, freeway congestion, crime and housing for criminals and much more.
Your cutting electric service will in fact help the state and local governments acknowledge where their priorities should lay.
Go Arizona
Brett commented:
What does the Hoover Dam have to do with anything? It’s not operated by the state of Arizona or an Arizona based company. It’s operated by the US Interior. As far as I know nobody is talking about boycotting things like air that blows in from Arizona, water the flows through the Colorado River and might brush up against Arizona soil, so why would you assume there would be a problem with power generated that has nothing to do with Arizona other than the station being halfway in the state? Arizona politicians don’t have the option of deciding where that power goes.
marlene commented:
What California and the Mayor and the City Council need to Remember no matter how much power they think they have invested in America.
They are on Constiutitonally Contracted Soil. That has a Supremacy Clause Over all of California and its Contracts. That can be Inserted in the Argument by A Grand Jury of Citizens or Congressmen. Arizona Followed the Constitutional Article 4 Section 4. No one can claim Constitutional Rights in America While Breaching the Constiutiton, which ignites the Constitutional Supremacy Clause if Breach Occurs. So Villi Mayor you are an amnesty Resident. NOT CITIZEN. An Act is like in a Play if the curtain is closed the Act is over. And America now needs to take a new look at the 1986 Amnestyy Act if is the causation of a possible civil War. and A Breaching of Constiutitonality between the States. The 1986 Can easily be revoked by 70% of American People pushing their Elected officials to Revoke it on the Grounds of Non Allegience and Treason.
Tony commented:
The Palo Verde Nuke-plant (50 miles outside of Phx metro area) is part OWNED by southern california, approx 27%. They helped BUILD it and currently help maintain and fuel it.
They can take their ball and leave, and were would that leave Arizonans? In the dark.
miker commented:
Haha marlene, you win the stupidity prize here. What you don’t know about Constitutional law could fill the Hoover Dam’s reserve a 100X over. Blame Mexicans and Liberals all you want if it makes you feel better, but it’s pretty obvious from the ugly and uneducated hatred you and your ilk spew all over this site that where you need to look for what’s wrong with America is in the damn mirror.
gg commented:
Just have california use the money it sends to AZ for power to put up more windmills for power… since its such a great green state anyway they need to show the way.
LOL