During a discussion on The Sean Hannity Show on the anniversary of the Waco Disaster, Dick Morris clamied that Janet Reno told Bill Clinton that either she stayed on as Attorney General or “she’d drop the bomb on Waco.”
Bill Clinton was in the news yesterday for attempting to link the Tea Party movement to terrorist attacks. Clinton blamed conservative talk radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. for causing Timonthy McVeigh to bomb the Oklahomea Federal building.
Dick Morris suggested that Janet Reno threatened to leak the goods on Waco unless Bill Clinton kept her on for a second term. Morris tild Sean Hannity that this was the first time that he had divulged this information.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 80 Comments
LC commented:
…and the knives come out.
Sliderblaze commented:
What say you Bill?
Militant Conservative commented:
When the ship is floundering and going down the rats are the first to leave. The success of the TPM deepens as more skeletons come out of the closet. Revolution up! powder is dry. Only one’s getting fired are the dirtbag politicians.
gus commented:
Dick Morris hires bodyguards in 3,2,1..
olm commented:
There is no surprise here. The only surprise is that it is how many years later? There’s more, much more.
I hope Barry is watching. If Bill has this much crap now, just wait until Obama’s out of office. Obama’s house of cards makes Billy Jeff’s look stable.
John Paul Jones Grandson commented:
Those ole walls come a tumble’n down…
My question is:
Will we see those who say they are not guilty or without sin, continue to cast their sinless stone’s at those seeking and professing the truth?
Stay tuned for the throwing of the “walls”.
Chisum commented:
WACO
http://volokh.com/2010/04/19/waco/
Valerie commented:
Sounds like Janet Reno may have advised against something that the President authorized, and then she took the heat, which was considerable.
No surprise, there. I would suggest that under those circumstances, all Ms. Reno would have to do when asked if she wanted to continue in the position, is say “Yes,” and Bill could draw his own conclusions.
I think somebody ought to lay the Tea Party situation, from their point of view, before the former President, and ask him whether this full-court press by the President, Democratic leaders, and elements of the MSM will be successful in characterizing the Tea Parties as racist in origin, and violent.
retire05 commented:
Let’s not forget that the whole Waco fiasco was a botched mission from the start. And when it [literally] went up in flames, the Texas Rangers wanted to step in but were quickly pulled off the case by a governor who had presidential aspirations and was the darling of the DNC, Ann Richards, who allowed the nation’s worst AG in history to weave her lying web.
Now we are seeing the same stonewalling in the investigation into the Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hassan. God forbid that it should be revealed that it was under the Obama administration that the investigation into Hassan’s communications with a jihadist was ended.
If the Democrats are good at anything, it is CYA and playing the blame game.
BarbaraS commented:
Any thinking person knew this. There had to be a reason for keeping that idiot as attorney general. McVeigh as much as said the reason for his action was Waco. He was very bitter about it. Besides, Waco was murder, pure and simple. None of those people came to trial. They were all burned alive, even children. This action was a humongous black mark in our history and Clinton not only orchestrated it but he got away with it. I don’t know if those people were guilty of insurrection or not. The Clinton and Reno covered it up all up.
bill-tb commented:
I guess this was just in case anyone believed Reno killed all those dozens of people at Waco without Clinton approval. And who exactly believed that part of the Clinton lies told about Waco.
Joan of Argghh! commented:
Folks, if you haven’t read the Volokh link, you don’t know the half of what Reno has on Clinton.
BarbaraS commented:
The dims are so big on trying terrorists in our court system when they were caught red-handed on the battle field but just destroy with horible deaths Americans who disagree with the government and have committed no real crime and are just suspected.
Joanne commented:
gus #4 – that is the first thing that came to mind for me as well. Dick Morris is a wealth of knowledge – something the left usually try to get rid of quick….even when it is their own useful left idiots.
Flyover Sam commented:
The reality is that Americans don’t radicalize when they are part of the discourse within the system. Extensive social theory supports this contention (e.g. Luhmann). Teaparty protests are far from oppositional to the system; they actually fully recognize, support and advance the political system as they function within it.
Only when the effort is made to eradicate opposition within the system does radicalization occur. Clinton facilitated this by exterminating the annoying cult that had become a thorn in the side of BATF by refusing to be shoved around and recognize their authority. Bad idea by the cult? Absolutely. You’ll lose that fight every time. Abusive, bullying behavior by the Federal agencies? Naturally, and they get riled up when people refuse to respect their authority. It’s no different than mouthing off to a cop when being pulled over for speeding.
But exterminating resisters radicalizes discourse and pushes associated elements (e.g. Tim McVeigh) outside of the system, as they have grounds to rationalize that the system cannot ever provide for reconciliation and mitigation.
Curiously, Clinton recommends Obama make the same mistake (which he’s been readily falling into the trap) by silencing and pushing the tea party governmental reform protesters out of the system. If there is violence, it will be solely blamed on this effort to silence and eradicate system-reform criticism.
olm commented:
I just read the link. WHY was the government not held responsible for gassing children?
Excuse me but this sounds like terrorism on the part of the Clinton administration/
Wow, you know what? This government is out of control, I knew that much but I didn’t know that Clinton was a killer. Was Ruby Ridge as disgusting?
BarbaraS commented:
Also let’s don’t forget Ruby Ridge. One of the ATF agents shooting a mother holding her baby and killing her thereby dropping the baby. Whatever happened to hold your fire in case you harm an innocent? Did that go by the wayside in Clinton’s war on citizens who disagreed with him? Scratch a liberal and the red will show through. Don’t forget about Elian Gonzalez either. Clinton and Reno went way beyond the powers of a president and attorney general during his term and the media covered it all up. For him to say what he is saying now just shows what a liar and a consciousless guy he is. A real sociapath.
gus commented:
Waco was an accident. Reno handled it as well as she could.
Accidents happen.
Flyover Sam commented:
BarbaraS – good reference! Yet another example of the Clinton administration and intolerant leftists demanding everyone be forced into their system and fully recognize their authority to rule. Liberals are the least tolerant individuals on the planet.
You’ll see the resonance of tolerance inherent in tea party protests, reflecting the libertarian values intrinsic to the nation’s founding. You may be Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Unitarian, Gaia Druidic Climate Worshipper, Marxist, Atheist, etc., but as long as you’re not cramming your viewpoints down my throat, we’re just fine. However, start stealing my property and using it to fund your religion (e.g. earth worship, income redistribution, funding abortion, etc.) and you’re no longer tolerant of our differences.
I challenge someone to show me a single liberal or progressive that doesn’t demand others comply and submit to their views.
Anthony commented:
Gus – is your last name “Hall”?
ebayer commented:
You can’t just say something like that and not give us an idea of what “goods” she has to tell!!
gus commented:
olm, get your facts straight. Clinton and Reno did NOT gas those criminal children.
Worst Things commented:
Bill and Hillary were the smartest president in the hisory of the universe!
Their IQ is 197 (98 + 99).
I bet Code Pink won’t make any citizen’s arrest of the Slickster or his wife.
gus commented:
Good old Gus Hall. I wonder if Opie followed him.
Flyover Sam commented:
One of the following comments is true. One is false. How you answer indicates whether you’re a leftie tinfoil conspiracy theorist militia type, or a pragmatic rational person.
1. Clinton and Reno did NOT gas those criminal children.
2. Bush did not steer Hurricane Katrina into New Orleans and Cheney did not blew up the dikes to flood all the minorities.
antilbr commented:
Bill just has a fetish for being bossed around by ugly women first hillary now reno,boy monica was a blast of fresh air compaired to them two……but then again the biggest question in life would be ,is there ANY pretty women that are democrats…….easy answer NO………..
gus commented:
Both are untrue Flyover.
The children were burned to death AND died of asphyiation in some cases.
But LIBS LOVE children.
czekmark commented:
Right, gus, libs love children. That’s way they want to make all of us child-like and subservient to their nanny state.
Colin M commented:
The Waco “Enforcer” is now the Secretary General of Interpol. The fun starts now!
Radegunda commented:
Looks like Reno put careerism above truth and justice. It’s the opposite of Col.Allen West, who did what was right and the let the career chips fall where they would.
Is something preventing Reno from saying what she knows now?
kate commented:
Did she threaten to reveal the truth about Hillary, too?
archer52 commented:
My novel “REVOLT” (www.revoltthebook.com) was partially based on Waco. I was a young detective back then and I and my fellow officers watched in horror as the situation unfolded. It was like a collective madness had set in over the whole federal government. As ’05 said, it was a botched operation from the start, as was Ruby Ridge. The MSM likes to demonize anyone who brings those incidents up as right wing crazies, but it does not eliminate the facts that the feds back then, especially the ATF, were cowboys. That is what happens when you have a progressive, liberal, us vs them, leadership. What is scary is that the same bunch running it back then are in power now, just a little older.
As a police officer who believed that a good cop follows the principle “First do no harm” I was sickened by the lack of compassion and lack of conscience shown by the FBI (most people don’t realize the commander was the same one at Ruby Ridge who developed the ROE that was later found illegal). What shocked me more was the dismissive attitude people like Janet Reno and Chuck Schumer showed towards the families of the victims and the survivors. It was like those people had no right to question the government.
I suggest that everyone watch “Waco Rules of Engagement” which is on youtube in parts. Put aside the actual incident and concentrate on the cover up, the attitude and the statements made by those who would seek to rule us now. You will be buying ammo in bulk ten minutes after the credits roll.
Who are these people? Beck and Gateway and others have done yeoman’s work exposing the “progressive movement”. They truly do believe they are superior, much like the Germans felt they were superior, the Japanese felt they were superior and the Soviets felt they were superior and we all know where that landed us.
When I was writing the novel I thought about Waco. I asked, “If the feds could isolate, demonize and then eliminate a compound, could they do it on a bigger scale- and get away with it?” From that came the book. Now there are subplots, spies, corrupt politicians, armed battles, and other exciting moments, but the story is about the town and its people and how they react to the threat.
Many people do not realize how many laws were broken, rules of evidence were violated, lies told, and other acts that took place in order to cover up the crimes at Waco. We only know as much as we do because a number of good Republicans demanded hearing. If that hadn’t happened we would have never known even a little bit of the truth.
It was funny but a person who read my book said that I should have stayed away from the “black helicopter” conspiracy issue, because it took away from the reality in the book. I emailed her back and said “I wish it were just fantasy. I sat in that “black helicopter” in 1988. One of two owned by the DEA as part of the war on drugs. Back then it was supposed to be used for observation and transport. Five years later it was used as an aerial firing platform for federal officers to shoot indiscriminately through a roof of a compound housing women and children. Certainly not what we, as police officers, were sworn to do.
As far as Reno was concerned, I think WJC kept her around as much as she stayed around because she was very controllable. I’m from Florida and we heard stories from the East coast through the Miami-Dade PD. To say that woman had skeletons in her closet is an understatement. Some of the stories we heard would have disqualified her immediately if they had been published.
Waco made me re-examine my profession. Like I said, I took up the principle that good cops first did no harm. I also learned that the feds were reaching far too deeply into “law enforcement” as they brought with them an unlimited budget and an aggressive militaristic mindset. To the local police they were something to be avoided if possible.
In the end I believed that police work should be very simple. We should make sure you are safe, your family is safe and your stuff is safe. If we find ourselves doing things other than that, we have strayed and need to stop.
Ariel commented:
The excellent documentary, “Waco: The Rules of Engagement,” can be obtained from Netflix. Searingly honest and devastating against our government.
Stuart commented:
Waco/ Tim Mc Vey might not be the best subject for Clinton to bring up at this point. Back when it went down a lot of people bought into the government’s narrative, thanks to the MSM. Rehashing this issue now might produce an entirely different result as the MSM’s, and the government’s, reputation is pretty much in the dumper. When the accepted narrative shifts Mr. Clinton’s image might well end up below that of Ted Bundy.
It would be ironic as with Clinton everything always was about his presidential legacy. Karma may yet be a bitch.
Lisa G in NZ commented:
Isn’t it nice Bill Clinton has now reminded us all about his involvement with Waco and the OK bombing this week and his horrible appeasement policies which gave us multiple jihad attacks against America…
Could it be the possible al Quaeda / mid-east / or Osama Bin Laden connections that bother Bill? Perhaps Bill’s regime had dealings with Saudis (“blood for oil?!”) or others to hush up jihadist terrorist attacks Bin Laden did eg WTC and OK…
Read ALL about the possible Osama Bin Laden connections to OK bombing in 9 year research by Jayna Davis: http://jaynadavis.com/foreword.html
Let’s FINALLY hold Clinton regime to account for the jihad attacks on Americe which led to 9/11, finally, shall we?
Peggy commented:
Funny how the MSM and Clinton yesterday yammered on about OKC, but not a word–from them–about Waco, which was a reported factor pushing McVeigh to action.
avery commented:
GUS 19# IF HE FOR REAL,THEN HE A NUT CASE WHAT SURPRISE ME IS BILL CLIFTON BRING IT UP.
olm commented:
I keep saying that if they want to bring this up, it all needs to be discussed. Jayna Davis’ book is a must read, and at the rate Obama and company are going, history is about to repeat itself.
ebayer commented:
In a December 1995 Playboy article written by former Los Angeles’
top cop,Daryl Gates
He tells the story of Dean Harvey Hicks who had nearly bombed
a six story office building that housed the IRS on the fifth floor.
“On the morning of February 22,1990,five years before the OKC bombing,
a police officer noticed a yellow truck parked across the street from the building.
It was a pickup draped with canvas.
He noticed smoke drifting out from under the canvas.The bomb squad was called in by the FD and the squad confirmed the presence of a bomb.
The pickup was loaded onto a flatbed transport truck and transported to the desert.
When the bomb squad detonated ,they were stunned.
Made with 2000 lbs.of ammonia nitrate and fuel oil,it would have leveled
the six story building.
It took a year before they caught and arrested Hicks.
He was not a member of a militia group or any political organization.
He was an electrical engineer with a good job ,a kindly demeanor
and a hobby as a bicyclist.
He had no criminal record.
What he had was a tax problem.
According to his story,when he called the IRS to resolve his
tax concerns,whomever he spoke with laughed at him.
Apparently,this did not sit well with Hicks.”
Gates relates this story for two reasons:
Los Angeles could’ve been Oklahoma City
Two
He wanted to raise the question of domestic terrorism
According to Gates
“Terrorism is not a violent act by a disaffected soul;in it’s truest sense it is
a way to wage war.
It is a polictical strategy used by people who do not have the capability to wage conventional war
to influence a polictical situation.
So they set out to engage in war,either within their owncountry or outside of it,
by using terrorist acts in attempts to destroy the people’s will and to achieve
their goals of overthrowing a government or a political process.”
Gates also points out that
“within seven weeks of the OKC bombing,the Senate passed a bill that would
…broaden surveillance provisions (including allowing federal agents,without
court orders ,to tap all phones used by a suspect)and provide new authority
for the FBI perusal of hotel,credit card and phone bills in cases of foreign terrorism.”
Gates also talks about how during the sixties and seventies,
the Public Disorder Intelligence Division of the Los Angeles PD gathered
information about groups that they believed to be threats to public safety.
“During those years we infiltrated right-wing groups,left-wing groups,and groups of foriegn
nationals.No one ever complained when we managed to infiltrate Nazi groups or milita groups.
When we infiltrated the Jewish Defense League,no one said a word.But when we gathered
information on left-wing groups,we were sued for invasion of civil rights.”
rayvrwc commented:
Well, I remember Dick Morris stating that Janet Reno literally got on her knees and begged Bill Clinton to leave her on as Attorney General, and he said normally, the Attorney General is replaced after one term. Ask Dick if he remembers saying that on national tv. You can’t have it both ways. Either Janet was on her knees before Clinton, or she wasn’t, and threatened him with WACO.
olm commented:
What skeletons does Reno have in her closet?
joe commented:
I don’t find Dick Morris particularly credible. Why haven’t we heard of this before? This sounds like an opportunist telling a stretcher to get attention.
olm commented:
I’ve done some brief searching on Reno. Looks like she may have been the female version of Massa with a drinking problem.
I find it curious though that she “couldn’t pass a background check”. Why not? Because she was a lesbian predator, allegedly. Surely that doesn’t come up in a background check. And what could Clinton have had on her to make her take the fall for Waco?
ex dem commented:
bull on Morris. He had no credibility when I was a Democrat, he has no credibility now that I am indi. So Dick, why have you weaited until NOW to let this be known?
The man is full of crap. Not that Clinton isn’t capable of doing such a thing but that he knows “the goods” is nonsense. You may not be for Obama Dick but your a lying Dem down to the bone
tennismom commented:
I share #49′s concern about the timing of Morris’ remark. If what he said is true, why did he pick this particular moment to reveal it? Is the ex Prez really doing that much damage to the tea party movement? Or is Morris mostly trying to promote his new book?
If Waco is being brought up to silence the ex Prez, I’d like to hear about it from a conservative or GOP spokesperson rather than just a pundit, although I like Dick Morris.
If what Morris said is true, the next AG (new conservative not RINO) could use threat of Waco prosecution of Clinton to rein him in. Or would we have a ‘war crimes’ trial? That would be fun.
It’s only ‘social justice’ to punish the killer of those innocent children.
Opaobie commented:
This story needs legs. Ed Morrissey at Hot Air has a different take on it, and I would like to see him interview Dick Morris face to face and tell him to his face that he thinks Dick is making it up.
Clinton adviser: Reno had the goods on Clinton over Waco
“I find this less than compelling for a couple of reasons. First, Morris doesn’t have the best reputation for credibility, and this story relies entirely on his recollection. Morris doesn’t even know the “big secret.” Second, Clinton had already won the last election he would ever contest — so what was the danger in kicking Reno out?”
jainphx commented:
The illegal tanks that were employed at Waco were seen to be introducing ” A Gas ” into the compound which immediately caught fire. Lets back up and talk about the leader of this sect, he was in town most every day, why then was he not arrested on the street where no one else could be hurt? Secondly Reno’s premise for raiding the compound was that the children were being molested, her answer was to burn them, but please what attorney general could do all this without the go ahead from the president.
Ruby ridge was over an illegally sawed of shotgun, and a supposed altered weapon to make it fully automatic, that was seen by an undercover agent. Once again he could have been arrested in town, BY THE UNDERCOVER, but the raid was preferred. The guys son ( for some reason I can’t remember his name ) was in the woods with his dog when he was shot and killed by FBI snipers, his dog was also killed, then they went to the house were the sniper shot and killed the guy’s wife while she was holding the baby.
Please someone here defend this action if you can.
jainphx commented:
The sniper was a Lon Sediguchie, or something close, he was Japanese American, and this wasn’t his first rodeo.
Jo commented:
That’s a bombshell.
A documentary on Waco ( aired on PBS) with former members said most people there were happy. there were no alligations as Reno and Clinton had stated. This was Clinton lets quell political dissent. Clinton should be in jail in my opinion. However, there are many even on the right-wing that think he is swell.
Joan of Argghh! commented:
I don’t believe anything Dick Morris says. I do, however, have plenty to think about at the above-linked Volokh article.
The VC guys are not known for sensationalism, and Mr. Stone’s account is likely the “goods” on Bill Clinton that Reno could have suggested. Even if she didn’t, even if Dick Morris is a lying hack, the link MUST be read for this discussion to be of any value to Gateway Pundit readers. To wit:
“The plan Reno approved and took to President Clinton for approval contemplated the children choking in the gas unprotected for forty-eight hours if necessary, to produce the requisite “maternal feelings”. By taking aim at the children with potentially lethal gas, their mothers would be compelled, according to the FBI plan repeatedly defended by the Clinton administration afterwards as “rational” planning, to flee with them into the arms of those trying to gas them. [Emphasis added.]“
Scott Wiggins commented:
Clinton and Reno should have been hanged for Ruby Ridge and Waco…Notice how the Feds bring out armored vehicles and ATF agents armed to the teeth for a band of religious zealots and a man and his family…They and those in charge today ignore the millions of gangbangers and crackheads who kill thousands every year in our cities…Yet, they had to take dramatic, deadly action against the branch Davidians and Randy Weaver…They are cowards and deviant sick fools…Clinton’s impeachment was to good for him. He should be in jail along with the homicidal maniac Janet Reno…
ForReals commented:
The deaths at Waco and Ruby Ridge were tragic and senseless. So let me as you this: how is it any better when our military kills unarmed civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Aussie commented:
It is not only time to investigate the truth about Waco and Ruby Ridge, but it is also time to investigate the nearly 50 deaths of people associated with the Bill and Hillary Clinton. There have been massive cover-ups. Waco is only one of the cover-ups that we know about. There is also the death of Vince Foster, the alleged lover of Hillary Clinton. Was it really a suicide? After reading some of the information that is available, and especially taking into consideration the way that a key witness at Macy Park was harassed, I am of the opinion that Vince Foster was murdered and his body was dumped by the murderer. I also believe that there was a cover up and that the scene was made to look like it was suicide. On top of that there were documents removed from his office and the safe in his office. One of the missing documents was a letter to Reno…. ooh that name again.
It could be that Dick Morris is telling the truth about what went down between Reno and Clinton. However, it could be that the goods Reno had on Clinton related to a different set of crimes.
A lot of those deaths were plane crashes, suicides and a few were car crashes. They look like accidents, yet one of the people that was killed in a plane crash had a bullet in his head? One woman was beaten to death. Another allegedly committed suicide when she looked like she was leaving to go somewhere. Her boyfriend at the time was also killed. I am thinking that it was her ex-husband that did both murders and he knew how to make those murders look like suicide. A lot of the the body guards ended up dead. Why was that?
The other interesting story that needs following up relates to the drug trafficking and Mensa Airport investigations. Again a lot of people ended up dead, allegedly committing suicide and several of the victims were women. The most chilling were the young boys whose bodies were dumped on a railway track.
A lot of these stories relate back to Clinton’s time as governor.
Yet another story that I have heard relates to illegal dumping of toxic waste in Arkansas during the time that Clinton was governor. No one has truly investigated that particular story. I wonder why not!!