It ain’t over yet…
The word on the street is that, even after the lackluster speech by President Obama, the democrats still don’t have their votes.
Glenn Reynolds reported– REPS. SPACE & MATHESON WILL BOTH VOTE NO. I’m also getting email reports that Rep. Lincoln Davis’s (D-TN) office is saying he will vote no, though I haven’t been able to find a published report to that effect.
There are reports that the socialists democrats even recruited Bill Clinton to make phone calls.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 73 Comments
opaobie commented:
Maybe they should make robo-calls using Gennifer Flowers’ taped Bill Clinton phone calls…would be more interesting…and maybe more effective.
Marston Chronicles commented:
It has all come down to these 8 members of the House whose votes will determine whether Obama care passes or not. There are some who voted no the first time and are under intense pressure from Speaker Pelosi to change their vote. She can make their life miserable and they know it. She can also cost them their seat in Congress if they vote yes and they know that, too. The others voted yes but for one reason or another are rethinking their position.
Things have been crazy all day. We started out needing three more votes but then out of the blue, Zack Space decided he had better vote no this time to save his seat. Pelosi countered by getting DeFazio flip to yes so we were back to needing three more votes. Then Matheson came in as a no dropping us to needing two. Finally Nye announced he would vote no again so we now need one more. We had better hope that Lincoln Davis votes no once again to make sure this bill crashes and burns. You can e-mail any House member here but you must say you live in his or her district. Here is the scoop on all of them:
1. Brian Baird (WA-3) – He voted no the first time but has decided not to seek re-election. The only workable approach is to urge him to respect the wishes of his constituents. His phone numbers are: 202-225-3536, fax is 202-225-3478.
2. Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3) – She represents the Erie, Pennsylvania area and voted yes the first time. She has a problem with the bill without the Stupak language on abortions. The latter is the key to getting her to vote no. Her phone numbers are: 202-225-5406 and fax is 202-225-3103.
3. Lincoln Davis (TN-4) – Remind him that McCain-Palin carried his district by a whopping 29.81% margin so this is no time to play cutesy and hard to pin down. Tell him to do the right thing and just vote no like he did last time. His phone number is 202-225-6831 and fax is 202-226-5172.
4. Paul Kanjorski (PA-11) – Explain that you can understand why he voted for the bill the first time since it had the Stupak amendment in it. Since this bill does not have it your conscience will not let you support someone who votes for this bill without it. Add that you know a lot of people who feel the same way and given his meager 3.25% margin last time, you are afraid he will lose if he votes yes. His numbers are 202-225-6511 and the fax is 202-225-0764. The danger is that he could well defect like Carney did.
5. Marcy Kaptur (OH-9) – She should easily get re-elected so there is no handle there. She voted yes the first time and is likely to do so again. Still you can try to persuade her at 202-225-4146 or fax her at 202-225-7711.
6. Alan Mollohan (WV-1) – He voted yes the first time and it caused a firestorm and put his re-election in doubt when it should have been a slam dunk. Tell him that health care is a deal breaker for you and he needs to vote no. Phones are 202-225-4172 and fax is 202-225-7564. Remind him that McCain-Palin carried his district by 15.26%.
7. Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) – This is a tough one because he voted yes the first time and is likely to do so again. The best approach is to tell him that James Duerr is just waiting for him to vote yes so he can crucify him for it. Phones are 202-225-7742, fax 202-226-1134.
8. John Tanner (TN-8) – He voted no the first time but has decided not to seek re-election. The only workable approach is to urge him to respect the wishes of his constituents. His phone numbers are: 202-225-4714, fax is 202-225-1765.
As you can see Kaptur and Ortiz will likely vote yes. Kanjorski is being pulled by Carney’s defection when he was a solid no but if Dahlkemper votes no, he might follow her as all three of them are from Pennsylvania. Baird and Tanner are weak because they are not running for re-election. While we probably will have Davis, we need a couple more to be on the safe side. That means we really could use Dahlkemper and Mollohan. All of this assumes that everyone else breaks the way they have announced or are leaning. However, nothing is ever certain in politics until the roll call vote is closed.
Marston Chronicles commented:
That e-mail link is: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml.
USMC Thomas commented:
Is anybody having trouble getting Drudge Report on the net. I can’t even get my own provider Charter.net site to come up and many others like HotAir. Never seen net like this, is it some government ploy to cripple anti-SOBama sites?
opaobie commented:
If the vote takes place at all, it means they have the votes and some of the “No” votes were allowed off the leash for cover only.
david commented:
dont believe any democrat .these now that are saying they will vote no its only bec.the witch pelosi let them off the hook bec. she has the votes she needs .we have to defeat everyone of these democrats no diff.how they voted .we have to get rid of pelosi they all voted to make her speaker . lets not be fooled by these no voters if the bill passes they should all go down .please spread this message to everone /
opaobie commented:
USMC Thomas, the entire Internet is probably getting slammed, at least in the USA, over the upcoming “historic event”. Depending on where you live and how many people are trying to access it, local overloads may be occurring. I’ve experienced a few similar periods all weekend, and I’m not on Charter.
Hack commented:
Even if Obamacare passes, it will be the spark needed to ignite a revolution like this country hasn’t seen since 1776! Keep fighting one and ALL!
http://www.hackwilson.blogspot.com
Mark commented:
Dear Congress: A yes vote on Obamacare=Yes, my political career is over because voters are going to toss you out.
pivey commented:
I talked with Lincoln Davis’ office and they told me he was a solid no. He has not told this to the press – might be part of the strategy. Lincoln has a conservative reputation in TN – we’ll see if it holds out tomorrow.
Tanner’s office told me he had voted against it before in a consoling way. I asked if the rumor that he was trading his vote for a NATO position was true – and his office seemed insulted at the insinuation.
Gordon’s office told me that he would probably vote yes, at which point they had to talk me down.
I have my Gordon rant, being a former constituent, and a comprehensive Davy Crockett commentary on the health care situation at my new blog.
aro5o75 commented:
Ooops.????
Old One commented:
Mark #10
Do not count on Barry, Harry, and Red Scary of the democrat’s Politburo allowing elections in November. Elections which will bring them a crushing defeat at the polls.
If the democorrupts are willing to impose their unwanted death care bill why would they bother to respect the wishes of voters in November when they will not do so now.
The Pelosi Politburo, Slaughterem, the radical left, the democorrupts and their prevaricating obsfucating media are all determined to hang onto their control. The Constitution they believe is the work of evil white men and long ago outdated and will certainly not restrain them.
Maobama and his terrorist Acorn and lunatic lefty legions bent on preserving their privileges and grip on poiltical power will not, I fear, hesitate at playing the crisis and martial law card. Deadfish, Oblabla, and Axelrat are idelologues to the max and history has taught us how ideologues react to opposition.
Chip Bennett commented:
@pivey:
If Lincoln Davis is a solid NAY, then it is ALL OVER.
He puts the whip count at 210 NAY – 204 YEA, with 6 solid NAYs from the Stupak bloc.
Tanner would just be icing on the cake.
I think you just made my morning!
myna commented:
Democrats who voted NO should just change their affiliations. Why would you want to stay in a Pelosi-Reid-Obama party who uses dirty politics, lies, intimidation and corruption?
kato commented:
Clinton reportedly refused to make phone calls, but said he would have one-on-one conversations with young women in his hotel room.