House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) has been all over the media the past couple of days defending the democrat’s decision to use a procedural rule to “deem” the Senate health bill passed as part of the reconciliation package, rather than holding an actual floor vote on the bill.

This “deem and pass” strategy, also known as a self-executing rule (or the “Slaughter rule”), could be critical for the House leadership to corral enough votes from reluctant Democrats.

Of course, Steny Hoyer was not always in favor of this rule.
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All this outrage over a relatively minor bill dealing with tax credits, and at only a fraction of the cost ($82B) of the $900B health reform bill which Hoyer and his fellow Democrats are now trying to ram through using every procedural trick in the book.

You want to talk about “courage” and “convictions”, Mr. Hoyer? Then put the actual Senate bill up for a vote on the House floor.

 

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  1. The self-executing rule has been used before by both sides, but never, ever has it been used for an historical bill. This is such a time. This is communism + if this passes — The United States of America is no longer what it once was and can never get back.

    This is probably the most corrupt administration ever in this country’s short history.

  2. So what was the nature of the bills previously “deemed” as approved in the House without being voted on by the House? How did “both sides” use the self-executing rule before ObamaCare? Somehow I doubt President Bush got authorization from Congress to send troops into Iraq this way. How much opposition was there to the things being approved with this maneuver?

  3. I believe a debt ceiling was passed this way by the Republicans. Gee, that’s something the Democrats love–more debt.

    Steny Hoyer is a little Pelosi stooge. I hope that any Democrats not voted out in 2010 are tortured in the Capitol basement.

  4. Jim I want to be first! I want to waterboard them! I want to gas them! All I will have to do is back my a** up to their faces. I wana be first! I want to jump over to the White House too. :)

  5. The lies continue; the sell out of all of us in in full swing. Mr. Hoyer is almost as “charming” as Nancy as he tells us all to go to you know where.

    Rep. Hoyer, I don’t want to go there, but you seem determined to get there! You should be ashamed. The lying has a cost. Are you willing to pay it?

  6. How about less bogus gymnastics and more Constitutional behavior from all elected representatives?

  7. I didn’t know anybody was “deeming” anything in Washington. We have slept while our country rotted. This must Change….

  8. Did the GOP using the “Slaughter Rule” in 2003 up the expenses for US families by 700 to 1,400 Dollars per year? Did it create an overbearing government? Did it allow the government to snoop into people’s files? No? Hmmm…

    BTW, those 900 billion they want to use for the “health care reform”… it’s not going to stop there. The costs will grow year after year until the nationalized health insurances will be bankrupt.

  9. I am not a supporter of the drift that is taking us to disaster, but there is a lesson to be learned about setting precedents.

    No matter what the precedent was that esayblished this protocol, it should have been objected to, as loud as it is now.

    The Republicans are as guilty about this mess as the democrats, and only see this as an opportunity to regain their power. There is no enlightened leadership in this country, by any of the ruling class.

    A government of the people has become a governement of the elites, and the cause is the indifference of the electorate who cannot even muster a majority, when it is time to vote. Hopefully, this revolution will be at the ballot box.

    From a historical perspective, all revolutions have gonedown the same road, from enlightenment to the absolutism.

    That road leads to the ones who govern becoming gods.

    The only difference between the American revolution and the French and Russian revolutions is that it took us 200+ years to get to where the French and Russians got in months.

  10. It doesn’t matter HOW the GOP used the self-executing rule. Few people are going to pay attention to the fine distinctions. The fact that they USED the damn thing at all is the problem here. As with earmarks, keeping the Presciption Drug bill vote open for hours, and everything else they did while Hammer DeLay was running the show, they undermined their credibility. Now shouts of “hypocrisy” just play like sour grapes.

    This just goes to show how deep corruption runs in D.C. Sure, what the Dems is doing is an order of magnitude worse…so what? The GOP’s behavior from 2000-2006 has given them political cover. What thee shall sow, so shall yee reap.

  11. Michael at #12 is completely correct. The original sin of mankind was the temptation to become a God himself and we have never lost that thirst.
    No matter how a people choose to govern themselves, they must always be guarded against their own nature to become a despot.

    It’s America’s time to protect itself from the few that intend to do the entire world harm by becoming the most powerful entity of one rather than many.

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