Liveblog– Dems Push Dead Fish Health Care Bill Through House
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, March 21, 2010, 4:11 PM
A dead whale washed up on the Iranian coast today.
They didn’t want it. They didn’t ask for it. It stunk.
(ISNA)
Related… “Dead Fish” Rahm Emanuel, the socialists in the White House, radical leftists, communists, and the rest of the Democrats are ramming their pro-abortion nationalized health care bill through the House tonight.
Bonus Video… Radical lib Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) stages floor rant against Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and “teabaggers.”
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UPDATE: How Awful… Steny Hoyer continues the Democratic lies…. “Biggest reduction of budget deficit in history.”
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Pat the First commented:
Rahm Emanual . . . dead fish. It fits.
pjean commented:
Where can I find an explanation? How can Stupak get an executive order to remove abortions without losing the pro-choice Dems in the House? The pro-choice folks were willing to say “No” if abortion funding wasn’t in there. Paul Ryan is saying right now that the language in the executive order does not clearly disallow abortion funding.
daryl commented:
Pelosi Galore needs a win tonight and by damn she’s going to have it even if it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
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Scott Jerome commented:
Let McDermott talk, talk, talk.
I don’t know when his term is up, but when it comes time for elections in his district, we shall find out how safe his district is for him.
Pat the First commented:
McDermott’s term is up this year just like the rest of the House. However, he represents a high union district. If the union says to vote for him, the membership will re-elect him. He is an embarrassment to the rest of us Washingtonians.
newton commented:
Let him talk. Rush is going to rip him tomorrow…
And let’s not even get started with Glenn Beck…
kate commented:
Let the “war” begin.
pat09 commented:
The Executive Order is meaningless……this President or a future President can rescind it…….. the pro-abortionists have probably been assured that an “independent” group will quickly file a legal challenge to his EO to ensure it goes away for the pro-aborts ………….
LL commented:
The Democrats are working very hard for a Republican Supermajority in Congress.
antilibr commented:
As god as my witnesee the democrats will pay a heavy price for this!!!!!!
averagemelon commented:
Mr. McDermott certainly has a lot to say about “teabaggers”. It’s amazing how very compassionate he is concerning the welfare of a boy and can shut that compassion off when he is asked to listen to another point of view. I wonder how much of his own money he has given in the name of keeping his brother safe and healthy in all the years leading up to his precious health care bill. I find the biggest hypocrits and liars are the ones who misquote the bible that they have never read for themselves and spew passages at those of us who have read it and understand it entirely. You fool no one, McVermin. You shame yourself in front of the Lord. He never commanded us to give to the GOVERNMENT to then alocate to the needy. He commanded YOU to do it instead. Go back to your house in shame, old fool.
nadadhimmi commented:
I think this will be the end of the Democrat Party. They used to have no idea how pissed off the American people are. Now, they are well aware, they just don’t care. They think they are omnipotent and all powerful. This will lead to significant civil disobedience as the people tell congress and Obama to kiss their collective asses. The Dem house losses may be up to 60 to 70 seats. Some say up to a hundred. Harry Reid himself in the Senate won’t even get re-elected. My biggest fear is Obama may try to declare a state of emergency and declare the current congress to remain in session indefinitly for “national security” purposes, ala Hugo Chavez. This is going to get really, really bad.
wow commented:
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March 21st, 2010 | 4:39 pm | #10
The Democrats are working very hard for a Republican Supermajority in Congress.
Oh yes!!! People from all over are on Dan Benishek’s – he’s running against Stupak – facebook account and everyone is pledging support to him. He’s over the 2000 friends mark in less than an hour. There will be a tsunami of opposition to those who voted yes for this monstrosity.
Sojourner commented:
Stupak= Worthless
EO= Worthless
Victory for Tinpot POTUS= Phyrric
Fight begins tomorrow… PRICELESS..I’m in.
Andreas K. commented:
Reducing the deficit by spending more. Yes, that totally works. Up is down, left is right, blue is green. How many fingers am I holding up?
Frank Jones commented:
I don’t think tomorrow is going to be that much different than today. I don’t think it’s going to be that much different for all the people with employer provided insurance or govt. insurance like medicare or VA care.
It might make a big difference with people that don’t have insurance and with people who buy their own insurance.
averagemelon commented:
Frank, You are a fool of the most supreme kind. This has never been about you and your damn health care. SHUT UP about your naked dreams of free insurance. THIS IS ABOUT POWER AND NOTHING ELSE. If you cannot digest that, then go sit in a welfare line.
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Taxi Dude commented:
McDermott’s behavior is reprehensible. Google ‘pulmonary hypertension’ and you’ll see that this child’s mother didn’t have a chance regardless of money/insurance or not. These Democrats are a despicable group of individuals.
Frank Jones commented:
No, I actually think it is about insurance.
Averagemelon,
Have you ever had to buy you own insurance? Or, have you always been covered by employer insurance, medicare, medicaid, or VA insurance?
If you have never had to buy your own insurance then you don’t know how much the insurance companies can screw you, especially with a pre-existing condition.
So far almost everyone agrees that the pre-existing condition thing needs to be fixed through regulation. Did the insurance companies propose any fixes to that? No. Why should they? They are in the business to make money.
I don’t want free insurance. I just want to be able to buy into a group plan. Also, I would appreciate it if I missed a payment I was able to restart my policy at the rate I had before I missed my one payment. If you have a pre-existing condition they kick you out.
All this talk about totalitarianism and Marxism is just a Glenn Beck fantasy he uses to increase ratings.
Sickofobama commented:
I wish those Iranians could rocket that dead fish over to the White House so Obama can know what we think of him and his Communist takeover of our country.
Frank Jones commented:
and I found out that one of the big ways they are going to pay for it is with a Medicare tax on Unearned income.
You know how we have to pay medicare tax? It turns out that if you make your money on interest on investments or by selling stock – if you are a wall street guy, for instance, you DONT have to pay medicare tax like the rest of us do.
Did you know that Hedge Fund managers only pay up to 15% tax on their income and wage earners (almost everyone else) pays up to 35%. I’m a home builder and I pay tax on more of a percentage of my income than a billionaire hedge fund manager. Plus, they’ll never bail out my business.
Frank Jones commented:
What’s with the communist stuff? Is Australia or England or Canada communist? Is Japan communist?
It’s just health insurance industry reform.
BS61 commented:
Yep, your right Frank – nothing to see here at all, move along.
JPL17 commented:
F*ck you Frank, go back to the Sorosian hole from which you oozed.
Andreas K. commented:
Frank, ever been to the UK? Labour is so far left that it isn’t even remotely funny anymore. And look at the UK today. It’s a friggin’ dump. Thanks to far left Labour. They’ve ruined the country.
Japan?
Have you ever been in a Japanese hospital?
Shall I tell you what’s happening there? Shall I really?
Apart from leftist PM Hatoyama pushing the national debt towards 200% of the GDP Japan has MASSIVE problems ahead in healthcare. The issue is not the overaging of the population, nope, not this time.
The issue is that Japan is running out of pediatricians. Yep. That’s happening right now in Japan. It’s been drawing more and more attention and criticism in the past year. The Japanese government is helpless and rather spends billions of yen on “development aid” instead of making sure that Japanese children have enough doctors.
Also, the number of hospitals refusing to take patients in case of emergencies is rising. Simply because the hospitals are lacking specialists and equipment.Thus they don’t take patients because the fear of a lawsuit or even legal consequences from the state is that high.
Sure, Todai’s hospital has no such problems, but that’s in Tokyo and also trains the medical students from Todai. But provincial hospitals? Holy crap.
We have a saying in German: Der Fisch fängt am Kopf zu stinken an. Which translates as: the fish starts stinking at its head.
Andreas K. commented:
I worded that wrong, didn’t I?
The Japanese government is helpless and spends billions of yen on “development aid” rather than making sure that Japanese children have enough doctors.
pat09 commented:
Hey Frank, Those of us who are retiring and worked our butts off our whole life LIVE off of fixed income “Unearned Income” that we WORKED for, invested wisely …..its called being responsible for oneself…….. We do not expect to receive Social Security since it is already spent and going in the RED…and I sure ain’t no wall street guy. Look for something in the real world beyond class warfare talking points.
JTaylor commented:
If this monstrosity becomes law and if the deficits balloon as projected, I think that everybody who is now claiming deficit reduction should be held accountable. We all know that nothing ever costs what the expected price tag is in DC so to ram something like this through with the American people being lied to and promised deficit reduction?!?is a crime in my mind. Just throwing them out of office is not good enough, this is larceny or extortion or some combination of the two felonies, and on a scale that is unheard of. If it does not wipe this nation out it will bring US to the serious possibility of secession or serious civil unrest.
And to Frank: those economies dont compare with ours. They do not spend much to defend themselves and have high taxes to boot. We are 350 million plus, all those countries combined are not 350 mil.
averagemelon commented:
Averagemelon,
Have you ever had to buy you own insurance? Or, have you always been covered by employer insurance, medicare, medicaid, or VA insurance?
If you have never had to buy your own insurance then you don’t know how much the insurance companies can screw you, especially with a pre-existing condition.
So far almost everyone agrees that the pre-existing condition thing needs to be fixed through regulation. Did the insurance companies propose any fixes to that? No. Why should they? They are in the business to make money.
YES. I have tried to buy my own insurance WITH a pre-condition and I REJECTED the insurance companie’s offer to cover me at their fantasy price tags. So, I just paid the bills out of pocket. I GOT HEALTHY and put my money in the bank instead. I stopped taking the meds and have been fine for FIVE YEARS. I swear to you, I would rather DIE than give my home, my life’s savings, and everything I worked hard for to feed an insurance company. I am not as WEAK as you are and ask everyone around me to FORCE the insurance comapny to treat me better. I prefer to starve them of money NOT SUPPORT them. The government intends to give them ENORMOUS POWER with EVERYONE’S money now. You are a FOOL if you think you have “won” something wonderful.
GregInSeattle commented:
Rep. McDermott is sure a smug SOB isn’t he? I gotta move out of his district.
Frank Jones commented:
Well Pat09, you think hedge fund managers and wall street types have a right to pay less on their taxes than people worked their but off every day? That’s totally real world.
IF you make $200 selling stocks you should pay the same as someone who makes $200 building a house.
And Andreas is a German or Austrian name, perhaps Swiss. I was not talking about he quality of care in Japan. I just asked a simple question is Japan or Germany or England a communist country? The answer is no. So the communist comments are kind of off the mark.
As for the labor party in England: that’s what the people there voted for.
JTaylor commented:
Im a Plastering Contractor and I cant believe Frank is a Building contractor, I have never known anyone in the trades who has had to work hard for every buck and still falls in line with the Socialist BS. I too had to buy my own insurance until the open border wiped out the industry. Now I cant pay food and taxes. I would rather pay cash or treat myself if possible. Buying into pools is the answer, why does Obama have to redo everything to accomplish that?
I do think that the health care fiasco will help a sole proprietor like myself with no employees, its just I am thinking of the future for my kids their kids and everybody else, that is the difference between conservatives and liberals. Liberals think of themselves first even when they are helping other people with other peoples money, its still their guilt driving them because they didn’t do more out of their own pocket.
Andreas K. commented:
Well, Labour in England is what drives the people in the streets today. Angry people, mind you. Angry British people. Pissed off British people who are angry at the socialist nonsense Labour spews and does.
Every child born in the UK has 22.000 Pounds debt already. Thanks to Labour.
That angers peoplel and I say rightfully so.
Germany is heading for communism. The former SED, which once ruled Eastern Germany, still exists, calls itself “Die Linke” and actually wins elections. The party that ordered the murder of people fleeding from Eastern Germany.
All of Europe is heading for communism. Thanks to the EU. Freedom of speech is dead here. The governments are overgrown and meddle with everything. The EU tells us what we’re allowed to eat, what we’re allowed to drink.
Austria, for example, has 200,000 civil servants. China, in the Quing dynasty, had 20,000 and that without computers and modern technology, while China was also significantly larger than Austria.
Japan is far left these days, thanks to Hatoyama and his idiots. Hatoyama is spending money like crazy. Only communists do that.
Whether you want to call them communists or socialists is totally irrelevant. Communism is just another form of socialism. And socialism NEVER leads to anything good, as history proves without a doubt.
Frank Jones commented:
So Averagemelon, you had to buy your own insurance and you could not afford it. Or maybe you could but even you thought the price was crazy.
I’m glad you got better and were able to afford what you needed. Not everyone is as lucky as you.
This whole thing is about INSURANCE. Personally, I don’t give a rat’s ass about insurance companies. If people are getting screwed over and we have to accept that to protect an INSURANCE company then, the hell with them.
If I miss a payment because of the weather or because some client of mine decides not to pay me then I am screwed. My family will not be able to afford insurance again.
If you know anything about insurance you know it is better to be in a group plan, the bigger the better. That’s what this whole thing is about.
MerNJ commented:
I am SICK AND TIRED of being told that I am selfish and greedy for wanting personal responsibility. It is the freeloaders who are selfish and greedy! I work for my money and I give a great deal of it away and that is my choice. I DO NOT want or need the government to take care of me or take my money in order to help others. I am an adult and I can do that all on my own just fine thank you!
averagemelon commented:
Sunshine and lollipops, right Frank? Everything is going to be a Utopia when the health care bill passes because Frankie has “affordable” health care.
I hope you make $50,000 a year, Frank and discover your health care costs you $25,000 a year out of your paycheck for this wonderful new program you are buying (including all other federal taxes of course, to be fair). Hey! Makes you want to run right out and drink champagne because now you can run to the doctor all you want because it’s “FREE”! All your problems are over! You are truly dim, Frank. The insurance companies are laughing all the way to the bank….until they are nationalized. Then the government gets all the marbles! This country will be lolling in heaven! Finally! Big Daddy can take care of us all and we can skip off to our jobs everyday whistling the mmmm song as our new national anthem.
Oh, yes. There is that word again…socialism.
Frank Jones commented:
JTaylor,
All I said was I wanted to buy into a group plan. The bigger the better.
They are proposing regulation because the insurance companies never gave you the option to buy into a group plan. Did they?
Call it socialist. Call it whatever. But I do need insurance for my family. Wife has MS. 3 year old can’t hear out of one ear. I’ve had a couple near misses with nail guns and once I sawed into my finger with a jig saw so I’ve been pretty lucky. After the economy tanked I had an irregular heartbeat as jobs started drying up. They perscribed pills but the thing that stopped it was getting really drunk one night with my friends. Heart was normal after that.
They raised my rates 32% in two years. To hell with them.
Frank Jones commented:
averagemelon,
I don’t get your point. The insurance companies right now are laughing all the way to the bank. You say that after this reform they will be laughing all the way to the bank.
So what is your proposal?
Frank Jones commented:
Now I have to go. Family calls..
pat09 commented:
Well Frank,
You’re right, it just isn’t fair, is it?
How many millions of (above) average people do you think have planned ahead as I, knowing that SS will not be there? Millions. So we need to screw these responsible people to get those greedy wall street people. This is a classic case of unintended consequences in the effort to soak those bad people…………or maybe it is not so unintended. It just isn’t fair that people who worked hard and took risks (investing their previously multiply taxed income) should be able to stop working as they please and stop paying into the government trough, is it?. We planned for this for YEARS and the pay off is going to be for other people that did not plan.
This is leveling the playing field by tearing everyone down to the lowest common denominator…. From each according to their abilities, to each according to his need, eh?
When I do my taxes this year, I can probably claim about 50 new dependents on the taxes I already pay.
averagemelon commented:
INSURANCE is a way to PAY for the health care service price tag which are TOO BIG for ANYONE to pay for. PERIOD.
ALL businesses work for a profit, Frank. Nobody works their entire lives for free. But greed lies in every human being. EVERYONE. The minute you force someone to pay money, greed becomes extremely uncontrolled. Since the government is nothing more than a group of people, they will be greedy, Frank. It will not be fair or honest or helpful unless the INDIVIDUALS in the group are fair and honest and trust-worthy. And Frank, you KNOW they are not. You have just trusted a lifetime of your money with a group of people you already KNOW are not trustworthy because you think it will solve a personal problem for you…YOU. YOU. YOU.
I took the harder road, Frank. I did not know how much I was going to suffer because of my choice to not buy insurance. Everyone thought I was nuts. I relied on myself and came out better for it. It wasn’t luck. It was determination, Frank. I HAD A STROKE at a very young age with FOUR children to feed on less than $60,000 a year. I made it work. I know what committment is.
squeaky commented:
passing a bill and being taxed immediately for
medical services that will not be active until 2013 [2014]……having healthcare and not being able to find a doctor who accepts it……
http://radioviceonline.com/health-insurance-companies-responsible-for-only-5-of-premium-increases/
wanumba commented:
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passing a bill and being taxed immediately for
medical services that will not be active for years
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Nice trick the Democrats are pulling. Getting the money before anyone gets any service. ANd what does goevrnmetn ALWAYS do with money Sprends it!
Multimillionaire Nancy Pelosi has a very nice jet at her disposal, courtesy of taxpayers. Nice that SHE can save her millions while we all have to pony up to keep her in regal style.
These people are NOT going to GIVE UP the lifestyles of the RICH.
Frank Jones commented:
pat09,
I know you think you are being screwed. But why should some people pay a tax on income and other people NOT pay a tax on income because it is “unearned income”?
Frank Jones commented:
Averagemelon,
I am really glad it came out OK for you and your children. All I have to say is that some people are not as resourceful as you are. Some people have problems that are worse than yours.
If I broke my leg and could not work, under the current system if I missed one payment I could not even buy back into the system. With MS, which my wife has, it’s a lifelong condition. It does not get better after five years.