Leftist Issues Death Threats to Palin, Her Family & "Teabaggers" – Media Silent
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:33 AM
At least one unhinged leftist is posting death threats to Sarah Palin and her family.
Of course, the media is silent.
Don’t expect this to make major headlines like the bogus racist charges from last weekend.
And, don’t forget… When leftist comedians crack rape jokes about her teen daughter– It’s comedy.
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Aitch748 commented:
I’m sure the guy is just terrified that we’ve got a guy on our side who can hurl a rock from street level through a window on the thirtieth floor of a Cincinnati skyscraper and into the office of a Democratic Congressman.
/sarc
Lily commented:
Don’t you just love hate-filled people taking time out of their small lives to call other people hateful?
Steve B commented:
This pisses me off. We are hip deep in, “I know this guy who’s friends with this girl who’s brother says he knows a guy who might have heard someone say ‘ni***r’ at a Tea Party protest,” and it’s reported as gospel by the MSM, but we have tangible evidence of actually threats of violence, and there seems to be a strange – if not unexpected – silence.
Although, the news cycle is a little slower than the blog cycle, so we hope that they just haven’t gotten to it yet.
Waiting…waiting…any second now…
jeff commented:
I heard you spinning talking points on 97.1 this morning. You folks on the right something else.
Anyone who is paying attention knows that it’s the tea party folks and other right wing extremists who are causing all the problems right now. No one denies that there aren’t idiots on the left but right now, the vast majority of the violence and hateful speech is coming from the right.
Allman wouldn’t even play the nastiest voicemails left on Stupak’s machine. That’s how dishonest he is. And now you’re claiming that none of the racial epithets were used? Absurd.
Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you make specious claims like this? I suppose no one called Barney Frank a fa**ot either, right? No one cut the gas line at the congressman’s brother’s house either, right? No one threw rocks through Rep. Slaughter’s office window either, right?
I suppose if you were to admit that these things actually happened, you’d probably claim it was the liberals who were doing it. You’re just another right wing talking head repeating what Hannity, Beck, Coulter, et. al. say.
It’s just so pathetic and sad.
Militant Conservative commented:
FEAR US YET…..WE the people are going to make Democrats pay dearly. Some states are not even waiting for November. Here in Georgia our Govenor fired the AG because he refused to file on behalf of Georgia against the unconstitutional Obamacare bill.
I’m shocked he is a democrat wanting to run for govenor. The political long knives are out and blood is in the water. You can run but you cannot hide.
powder is dry. Oh, one more thing, Many of us radical right wing extremists believe in the law. So when we carry our guns we do so legally. powder is dry.
JB commented:
“Anyone who is paying attention knows that it’s the tea party folks and other right wing extremists who are causing all the problems right now. ”
You know how I know you’re lying? You’re using the seminar leftist phrasing “anyone who is paying attention.”
Dick_Nixon commented:
I suppose no one called Barney Frank a fa**ot either, right?
You got video?
Militant Conservative commented:
jeff
March 26th, 2010 | 7:22 am | #4
your ignorance is astounding. this is politics and one of the ways you take power away from a movement is to marginalize it. Educate yourself Jeff. Jim Hoft of this website was physically AT the coffin incident, the problem was manufactured not actual.
Dick_Nixon commented:
“It’s just so pathetic and sad.”
Your endorsement by silence on the death threats against the Palin family are is pathetic.
We all know liberals have skills such as blowing up churches and burying dead bodies in earthen dams, so don’t come off so high and mighty. And what your kind did to the Jews in the 40′s, well, sickening.
Steve B commented:
I guess we”re still waiting for that pesky thing called “proof.” You know, a video or something?
Dick_Nixon commented:
“You’re just another right wing talking head repeating what Hannity, Beck, Coulter, et. al. say.
It’s just so pathetic and sad.”
Nixon has read this phrase 100 times on different website, all conservative, this week.
jeff commented:
Amazing spin and hate from you folks. Let’s look:
“FEAR US YET…The political long knives are out and blood is in the water. You can run but you cannot hide.
powder is dry.”
No implied violence there, right? {rolls eyes}
“Your endorsement by silence on the death threats against the Palin family are is pathetic.”
Endorsement by silence? Really? You can’t be serious. I condemn ALL threats of any kind by anyone, liberal, moderate or conservative. Is that non-silent enough for you?
“You got video?”
Dozen of people were there and heard it. Are they all lying? No one on the right ever uses that epithet, right? It couldn’t possibly have happened, right? Are you really this naive?
“your ignorance is astounding. this is politics and one of the ways you take power away from a movement is to marginalize it. Educate yourself Jeff.”
So, because you disagree with me, I’m ignorant now? You’re only proving my point. You on the right can’t engage in civil discourse. I’ve been active in and following politics my entire life. I know how the game works. Try to be a little less condescending.
“Jim Hoft of this website was physically AT the coffin incident, the problem was manufactured not actual.”
So he claims. That wasn’t my point. He was implying on 97.1 that none of this stuff is happening. Have you been to a tea party rally? Have you seen the signs? The Hitler comparisons? The claims of socialism? Death panels? Killing grandma? I remember a time when the GOP used to work towards consensus. That’s no longer the case. Goldwater is rolling over in his grave. The modern republican party has lost its way.
“And what your kind did to the Jews in the 40’s, well, sickening.”
Is this the 1940s? My kind? By the way, who said I was a liberal? I sure didn’t. You’re making assumptions. And, we’re talking about right now, not the 1940s.
“You know how I know you’re lying? You’re using the seminar leftist phrasing “anyone who is paying attention.”
Nice try. I’m not lying and I have no idea what the “seminar leftist phrasing’ is. It’s a common phrase. I watch TV. I read. I pay attention. I don’t need to attend some seminar to know this.
You guys are making my case for me.
Not Intimidated commented:
Anyone who is paying attention knows that it’s the tea party folks and other right wing extremists who are causing all the problems right now.
Yes, it’s totally extreme to want the government to not take over health care with poorly written, sloppy, hastily cobbled-together legislation that has no chance of working and will the situation exponentially worse.
How racist of them.
Valerie commented:
It’s full-court press time from the liars on the left. When a broadcaster from MSNBC catches the attention of the terrorist watchers, you know it’s bad.
H/t My Pet Jawa, to RealClearPolitics
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/25/msnbc_host_time_for_socialism_in_talk_radio.html
LeBron Steinman commented:
Jeffie.
Your brain-dead parrot comments are noted.
At least you’ve shown you have the skills to use the copy and paste function from left wing hate blogs.
Not Intimidated commented:
Dozen of people were there and heard it. Are they all lying?
Apparently. Not one video or audio tape of racial epithets has surfaced, even though you can see that the CBC members themselves were taping the crowd.
There’s evidence that the shouting of racial epithets did not happen, but no evidence that it did. So, yes, all those people are either lying or mistaken. Maybe they need their hearing checked.
jeff commented:
The Hill reports:
“Frank, an openly gay lawmaker, had to call the Captiol Police “to move away” five or six protesters who were banging on his office door and shouting through the mail slot…While making the trek across the street from his office to the Capitol, Frank was called a ‘Homo Communist’ and told to ‘go homo to Massachusetts’ by several protesters, according to witnesses and confirmed by Frank…Frank, a longtime advocate for lesbian and gay rights, called it ‘unfortunate’ that people protesting in the Tea Party event took to spewing ‘bigoted, abusive, personal things’ at him and some African-American members. ‘If this was a movement that I was part of, I’d be doing more than I think the Republicans are, to differentiate myself,’ Frank said in an interview with The Hill that afternoon.”
I guess The Hill is lying, huh?
Someone in the crowd yelled “faggot” — an epithet overheard by a POLITICO reporter — at Frank, who is gay.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34765.html#ixzz0jI5zPN0O
Politico! Not exactly a liberal rag. LOL. Come on guys, just admit it. There’s a lot of hatred out there for blacks and gays. Are you denying even that?
aposematic commented:
Alinsky and the Devil are slapping each other on the back and laughing loudly at us really stupid humans to believe these Liberal Commi Lies!
jeff commented:
“Yes, it’s totally extreme to want the government to not take over health care with poorly written, sloppy, hastily cobbled-together legislation that has no chance of working and will the situation exponentially worse. ”
This is a perfect example of the dishonesty coming from the right. This bill isn’t a government takeover of healthcare. Not even close. No public option. 31 million new customers for the PRIVATE insurance companies. It’s just absurd to argue this is a government takeover. Single payer was off the table before the debate started. Public option was killed off by the Senate.
Hastily cobbled together? They’ve been debating, drafting and redrafting this legislation for over a year. We’ve been debating this reform for decades.
Amazing.
Not Intimidated commented:
the vast majority of the violence and hateful speech is coming from the right.
Funny.
* It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter’s speech to be canceled this week.
* It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man who disagreed with him on health care.
* It was Obama-loving Amy Bishop who took a gun to work and murdered co-workers.
* Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building after writing an
anti-conservative manifesto.
* It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers outside of Seattle.
* It’s liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships.
* It was progressive SEIU union thugs who beat a black conservative man who spoke his mind.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/201721.php
jeff commented:
‘Jeffie. Your brain-dead parrot comments are noted. At least you’ve shown you have the skills to use the copy and paste function from left wing hate blogs.”
Again, you prove my point. No rational response. Instead you post condescension. My name is Jeff, not Jeffie. You have PROOF I copied and pasted my posts from a left wing hate blog? My original post on this thread was just that, original. I referenced to article when someone asked for proof. I provided a snippet of the article and a link. Thanks for making my case, again.
Audacity commented:
Where was the MSM outrage when this was happening?
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
Andreas K. commented:
jeff
March 26th, 2010 | 7:52 am | #12
Amazing spin and hate from you folks.
Hate?
You want hate? Shall I get a list of every left wing protest that either turned into violence or where the “brave” left wing spewed hate? Actually, I can’t be arsed to do that, because the list is endless.
Politico! Not exactly a liberal rag. LOL. Come on guys, just admit it. There’s a lot of hatred out there for blacks and gays. Are you denying even that?
Maybe there is. But hate doesn’t come out of nowhere. And maybe these people have a reason to be hateful? Ever thought about that?
Look at the US and tell me everything is good.
Obama, the great unifier, has torn the republic like only Lincoln managed it before him.
Has he torn it with the color of his skin?
Nope. He has torn it apart with his stupid politics.
But I admit, even I am using the N word more often than usual these days, because it’s really the only word that sums up Obama’s outright stupidity.
Also, you complain about racism, what about racism against white people which is there every day. Why not complain about that too? But I know, people like you are colorblind. Yep. Colorblind in the way that only things done against the “poor” blacks count. F*ck whitey, right?
I’ll see what tune you sing in 10 years, when the “great” Obama system starts falling apart. Looking forward to it.
Or in 30 years, when we’ll have WW3.
jeff commented:
“Apparently. Not one video or audio tape of racial epithets has surfaced, even though you can see that the CBC members themselves were taping the crowd.”
Is video the only evidence? Independent reports from reporters from Politico and elsewhere doesn’t do it for you I guess. It must be a conspiracy. Sheesh.
‘There’s evidence that the shouting of racial epithets did not happen, but no evidence that it did. So, yes, all those people are either lying or mistaken. Maybe they need their hearing checked.’
Evidence it didn’t happen? In other words, there’s video and audio of everyone who was present from the beginning of the walk to the end? Really? Better upload it somewhere that can host mega-giga-bytes of video and audio. Come on!
Not Intimidated commented:
This is a perfect example of the dishonesty coming from the right. This bill isn’t a government takeover of healthcare. Not even close.
It’s the first step in the government takeover of health care (two words, not one), according to Obama, Pelosi, Baucus, Weiner, and all the other Democrats who have been assuring their base that this is just the beginning. Maybe you think they’re lying…
Hastily cobbled together? They’ve been debating, drafting and redrafting this legislation for over a year.
Ah. So they deliberately left out covering children with preexisting conditions and allowing children to stay on their parents’ insurance until they’re 26? I mean, since this thing was so carefully put together and all.
Dell commented:
Jeff
How about you get back ON TOPIC for this thread and address the threat that Jim has posted???
Or is diversion to partisan political rhetoric your tactic of choice?
Should this Seattle Metro person be investigated for what appears to be an open threat of death?
Dick_Nixon commented:
“Politico! Not exactly a liberal rag. ”
Can you not read the article on this very site showing Politico’s bias?
And really, you must be new to politics, as anyone with a brain knows Politico has it’s head firmly inserted in Obamateurs anus.
As far as barney Frank lying, isn’t he the person that said “Fannie Mae is strong and we need no reform”? Yeah, he’s on the record lying.
Thanks for playing.
jeff commented:
“Alinsky and the Devil are slapping each other on the back and laughing loudly at us really stupid humans to believe these Liberal Commi Lies!”
Yet another poster proving my point. Thank you.
Not Intimidated commented:
Is video the only evidence? Independent reports from reporters from Politico and elsewhere doesn’t do it for you I guess. It must be a conspiracy. Sheesh.
Well, since the video and audio cover every single second of the event, and nowhere do any racial epithets appear, then I guess I really do believe my own eyes and ears instead of what a guy on Politico says.
I must be insane!
LeBron Steinman commented:
BTW, Has the media ever reported that Sarah Palin’s church in Wasilla was burned down by arson last year or is that still a non-existent story in the guard dog media?
Not Intimidated commented:
Evidence it didn’t happen? In other words, there’s video and audio of everyone who was present from the beginning of the walk to the end?
Yes. You haven’t paying paying attention, have you? The members of the CBC didn’t walk through the crowd for 17 miles. It was only a matter of a few feet.
Later.
Kevin P commented:
On another note – the question is not “Is Obama’s Civil Defense Corps. in the health-care bill?”
The question is “How much of Obama’s Civil Defense Corps. is in the health-care bill?”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=132001
Andreas K. commented:
This is a perfect example of the dishonesty coming from the right. This bill isn’t a government takeover of healthcare. Not even close. No public option. 31 million new customers for the PRIVATE insurance companies. It’s just absurd to argue this is a government takeover. Single payer was off the table before the debate started. Public option was killed off by the Senate.
Just as great as it was for the PRIVATE industry when Clinton and his goons pushed for dropping the redlining so that everybody could buy a house, right?
Well that worked out pretty good, didn’t it?
I mean, it only crashed the whole real estate market. But it’s all for the greater good, right?
Do you really believe what you wrote?
Oh boy, I so wish NHS style health care, which you will get on the long run anyway.
31 million new “customers” who can’t pay for it, thus the tax payer has to pay for it. Those aren’t customers. Those are like ticks living off the tax payer.
It’s just redistribution of wealth. Take it from the people who earn it and give it to the people who do nothing. The Democrats confirmed that part, no point lying about it anymore.
You want such a system so bad?
Move to the UK and “enjoy” it.
Dick_Nixon commented:
Yet another poster proving my point. Thank you.
And who died and left you any credibility?
Betsy Ross commented:
I pray that we follow the example of Martin Luther King Jr. who led the march of non-violent direct action to achieve his goal. I do believe that the current pols in the majority are goading and attempting to provoke The People toward violence and we must resist their attempts.
Remember well Martin Luther King Jr.
jeff commented:
“Obama, the great unifier, has torn the republic like only Lincoln managed it before him.”
Oh really? It has nothing to do with tea party activists, astro-turf movements instigated by Dick Armey, the inane ranting of Glenn (douse with gasoline) Beck, the crazy hate-speech of Rush Limbaugh? The death panel lies of Palin, Grassely, and the rest? Obama has tried to work with the GOP. They won’t have it. It’s the GOP’s way or the highway. They’ve proposed the same three ideas on healthcare reform for years and years and even when they had complete control of everything they didn’t do a thing (except the unfunded mandate known as Medicare Part D – which is nothing but a giveaway to big Pharma and which, by the way, is where the cuts to medicare are coming from. The GOP is even lying about that). It’s the same 3 things: sell across state lines (in other words, a race to the bottom), tort reform (even though medical malpractice accounts for about 1/5 of 1% of the cost of healthcare costs), and medical savings accounts (which we already have by the way).
“Has he torn it with the color of his skin?”
He’s half black and half white. Which color are you referring to?
“Nope. He has torn it apart with his stupid politics.”
Hardly. He’s a DLC centrist democrat being portrayed by the right as a communist, socialist, fascist, and every other “ist” you guys can come up with.
“But I admit, even I am using the N word more often than usual these days, because it’s really the only word that sums up Obama’s outright stupidity.”
I rest my case.
“Also, you complain about racism, what about racism against white people which is there every day. Why not complain about that too? But I know, people like you are colorblind. Yep. Colorblind in the way that only things done against the “poor” blacks count. F*ck whitey, right?”
I never said that. Racism is racism regardless of the color of the skin perpetrating it. Sounds like you have lots of anger and racial issues to deal with. I’ll leave you to that now.
“I’ll see what tune you sing in 10 years, when the “great” Obama system starts falling apart. Looking forward to it.”
Can’t be any worse than the last 10 years of doubling the national debt, lying us into illegal and immoral wars, evisceration of the 4th amendment (which Obama is continuing by the way), etc. I think I can handle anything that’s coming. But thanks for thinking of me.
“Or in 30 years, when we’ll have WW3.”
Yeah. Good luck with that one.
LeBron Steinman commented:
Jeffie.
What is the source of your irrational hatred of people who have opposite political opinions?
Why are you resorting to derisive ,dismissive boiler-plate rhetoric and no- basis- in -fact accusations ?
Are you that insecure about your dangerous leftist people control philosophy that has been an utter and disastrous failure throughout history don’t you?
I must ask again.
Why do you hate?
jeff commented:
Nice talking to you folks. And thanks for proving my point. In less than 30 minutes, we’ve had references to Saul Alinksy, commies, and socialists.
I’ve been called ignorant, Jeffie (that one was kind of cute actually), a parrot, and more.
We’ve seen absurd calls for proving a negative.
We’ve heard that the healthcare reform bill is a government takeover of healthcare even though most liberals and progressive held their noses and voted for this centrist DLC corporatist bill.
One poster even admitted to using the “N” word more often because of Obama (Observation: you’re willfully blind to the racism but it’s right under your nose in this forum.).
The old redistribution of wealth canard. As if the largest redistribution of wealth didn’t just happen in Iraq when Halliburton, KBR, and the rest got no-bid contracts. As if the GOP TARP bill didn’t hand over billions to the crooked bankers and Wall Street suits who blew up the bbubble and popped it. As if the Fed didn’t extend credit of trillions to institutions they won’t even disclose. And now, a tax hike on the wealthiest Americans is somehow the beginning of Hitler’s Germany or Castro’s Cuba.
Astounding.
Have a great day folks. Nice talking to you.
LeBron Steinman commented:
Also, BTW, Jeffie.
Why do you continue to ignore the subject of the post-the leftist death threat against Sarah Palin and her family?
w3bgrrl commented:
Anthony Weiner stokes the flames of leftist violence!
“When Sarah Palin uses gun analogies and gun imagery when she makes her political point, she may believe that she’s engaging in metaphor. But there are too many people who have twisted minds who might think that she’s being literal,” said Weiner. “What might seem as an obvious metaphor for some people may seem like an invitation for someone else.”
So I guess it’s okay for the press to use gun metaphors in headlines like “Biden sets sights on McCain,” etc. but suddenly it’s a federal offense when a conservative uses the same metaphor.
Liberals are hypocrites and wholly unqualified to lecture anyone on the use of eliminationist rhetoric.
Betsy Ross commented:
Ha-ha JeffIE,
guessing we are supposed to be bowled over by your brilliance….geez what a lightweight. Hope that “proves your point”.
Sincerely,
A pesky knuckle-dragging, single-wide dwelling, gun-toting, Jesus-loving hillbilly from fly-over country…
LeBron Steinman commented:
Why are you running away ,Jeffie?
Oh,you forgot the traditional meaningless leftist exit salutation:
“Peace Out”
w3bgrrl commented:
Jeff,
Next time, fact check yourself. Use Google.
http://images.google.com/images?q=kill+bush+images&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US355&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=BsWsS9aYCYH-8AaHzYHIDw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQsAQwAA
Dell commented:
No, Jeff….Thank you for proving MY point.
Immediate diversion AWAY from the topic is incredibly rude and more and more blog hosts are cracking down on the tactic.
Diversion IS, in fact, an Alinsky taught method and it’s time to bring it under control.
Chippy commented:
Google HR 3200, you can read the actual guts of the bill passed on Sunday, it says, “the gov’t has the right” two thousand times. The gov’t has the right…..YOU DONT. Most people against the bill know what is in it. Lib drones who blindly love obozo have not read it. These people would follow an empty suit off a cliff. Sounds like Germany in the thirties.
Valerie commented:
Jeff,
I think I am the first one to raise the question of the “throw-down threats.”
It so happens that I am also one of the local resident Liberals. Yes, we do exist, and yes, we have vibrant cr@p detectors. I read “Revolution for the Hell of it” in high school, and I’ve read bits and pieces of Saul Alinsky’s writings, not to mention the tiresome and over-long “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand.
I have watched a major news network try to influence an election with a document so poorly faked that it was debunked within hours. I have watched a major news network fail to answer questions about one of its vice presidents who ran around for two years telling foreign audiences that our military was shooting at his reporters (the same guy that admitted suppressing real news about Saddam Hussein’s atrocities).
I watched the Abu Ghraib hearings, and I watched people outright lie about their content.
I’ve also worked in an office building kitty-corner from the White House.
I know that there is a general level of threats from nutcases to anybody involved in the government on any given day, and that the nucases come out of the woodwork any time there is big news.
I recognize the stench of opportunism in the announcement about threats by the Democrats in the wake of this legislation. They have made a political calculation that they need to have the tea partiers be violent, and so they have already chosen to make up threats and racist comments where none existed. If you read this blog, you will find out about several cases of this.
Right now, the Democrats are engaging in accusations against innocent people. They are doing this because they want to have something else to talk about to the press, instead of their own disgraceful conduct and the poor quality of their work product.
Betsy Ross commented:
Valerie,
dems also want to divert attention away from the content of their health care bill they wrote, voted on, and signed into law…
w3bgrrl commented:
Chippy, small quibble. I searched “has the right” in a PDF of HR 3200 and found 0 instances of the phrase. I searched “right” and found 21 instances.
Are you perhaps referring to the Senate bill? Or can you post one example? Not disagreeing with your premise that this expands the rights of the federal government at the expense of the individual, I just am questioning the accuracy of your statement.
aprilnovember811 commented:
The amazing part is, when they are referring to “teabaggers,” they are referring to everyday American’s. They are insulting most of the country. These people will pay dearly when the Supreme Court overturns this attack on our freedom, and Constitution with this bogus, health care legislation. These people have robbed the US Treasury and they want the taxes for fraudulent health care, to pay what they have stolen.
You people that voted for this piece of human trash, third world, banana republic despot Obama, have made a mess.
You have demeaned this country, by giving this loser such an honor.
aprilnovember811 commented:
jeff
March 26th, 2010 | 8:27 am | #40
Nice talking to you folks. And thanks for proving my point. In less than 30 minutes, we’ve had references to Saul Alinksy, commies, and socialists.
I’ve been called ignorant, Jeffie (that one was kind of cute actually), a parrot, and more.
We’ve seen absurd calls for proving a negative.
We’ve heard that the healthcare reform bill is a government takeover of healthcare even though most liberals and progressive held their noses and voted for this centrist DLC corporatist bill.
One poster even admitted to using the “N” word more often because of Obama (Observation: you’re willfully blind to the racism but it’s right under your nose in this forum.).
The old redistribution of wealth canard. As if the largest redistribution of wealth didn’t just happen in Iraq when Halliburton, KBR, and the rest got no-bid contracts. As if the GOP TARP bill didn’t hand over billions to the crooked bankers and Wall Street suits who blew up the bbubble and popped it. As if the Fed didn’t extend credit of trillions to institutions they won’t even disclose. And now, a tax hike on the wealthiest Americans is somehow the beginning of Hitler’s Germany or Castro’s Cuba.
Astounding.
Have a great day folks. Nice talking to you.
Jeff,
Hitler had his own health care plan, and did you read this yesterday. You are in denial.
Cuban leader applauds US health-care reform bill
Dubious endorsement? Cuban leader endorses US health care reform, says it’s about time
Thursday March 25, 2010, 12:39 pm EDT
HAVANA (AP) — It perhaps was not the endorsement President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress were looking for.
Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro on Thursday declared passage of American health care reform “a miracle” and a major victory for Obama’s presidency, but couldn’t help chide the United States for taking so long to enact what communist Cuba achieved decades ago.
“We consider health reform to have been an important battle and a success of his (Obama’s) government,” Castro wrote in an essay published in state media, adding that it would strengthen the president’s hand against lobbyists and “mercenaries.”
But the Cuban leader also used the lengthy piece to criticize the American president for his lack of leadership on climate change and immigration reform, and for his decision to send more troops to Afghanistan, among many other things.
And he said it was remarkable that the most powerful country on earth took more than two centuries from its founding to approve something as basic as health benefits for all.
“It is really incredible that 234 years after the Declaration of Independence … the government of that country has approved medical attention for the majority of its citizens, something that Cuba was able to do half a century ago,” Castro wrote.
The longtime Cuban leader — who ceded power to his brother Raul in 2008 — has continued to pronounce his thoughts on world issues though frequent essays, titled “Reflections,” which are published in state newspapers.
Cuba provides free health care and education to all its citizens, and heavily subsidizes food, housing, utilities and transportation, policies that have earned it global praise. The government has warned that some of those benefits are no longer sustainable given Cuba’s ever-struggling economy, though it has so far not made major changes.
In recent speeches, Raul Castro has singled out medicine as an area where the government needs to be spending less, but he has not elaborated.
While Fidel Castro was initially positive about Obama, his essays have become increasingly hostile in recent months as relations between Cuba and the United States have soured. Washington has been increasingly alarmed by Cuba’s treatment of political dissidents — one of whom died in February after a long hunger strike.
Cuba was irate over the island’s inclusion earlier this year on a list of countries Washington considers to be state sponsors of terrorism. Tensions have also risen following the arrest in December of a U.S. government contractor that Havana accuses of spying.
In Thursday’s essay, Castro called Obama a “fanatic believer in capitalist imperialism” but also praised him as “unquestionably intelligent.”
“I hope that the stupid things he sometimes says about Cuba don’t cloud over that intelligence,” he said.
What don’t you get?
Slappy commented:
jeff
March 26th, 2010 | 8:18 am | #38
He’s a DLC centrist democrat being portrayed by the right as a communist, socialist, fascist, and every other “ist” you guys can come up with.
That’s an outright lie — one of many that you’ve posted in this thread — and shows how foolish you are, especially considering the policies Obama has followed over the past 15 months. There is nothing in this guy’s past, including his voting record as a U.S. Senator, that says this, and his record so far as POTUS illustrates how far left he is. How is this even an argument? As you’ve done repeatedly in this thread, you’re just arrogantly stating things as fact that you desperately want to be true and using projection to accuse many here of doing exactly what you and those you’re supporting are doing. To top it off, you make sure to post a bunch of Left-wing cliches in which you have to reference Beck and Limbaugh. Is this where one of us conservatives is supposed to derisively mention Maddow and Olbermann? I’m just trying to follow protocol with the normal Right vs. Left online arguments.
The public didn’t support the health care bill by strong margins — including both Republicans and Independents — but Obama & Co. pushed it through anyway and now you have the balls to blame the people whose opinions were ignored? It’s the GOP’s fault for the Democrats using taxpayer money to get unsure Democrat politicians to support the bill? It’s the GOP’s fault that the Democrats had to hide various costs so they could lie right to the American people about the cost of the health care bill? It’s the GOP’s fault that Obama called for a health care summit to make believe he was being bipartisan then didn’t include any of the ideas from the GOP at the summit?
I think the biggest joke is that you actually wrote the following:
“This bill isn’t a government takeover of healthcare. Not even close. No public option. 31 million new customers for the PRIVATE insurance companies. It’s just absurd to argue this is a government takeover.”
Could you be anymore intellectually dishonest? This health care bill may not result in complete government takeover of the health care system, but we’re now on the path to that. Democrats themselves have been saying this publicly and privately according to myriad press reports that this is the first step to single payer, which is a full takeover of the health care system, unlike the 50% option they had to settle for so far. So should we put aside our complaints and opposition until it’s too late and single payer is about to be voted on? Puh-lease. Your argument is idiotic.
You keep talking down to us while you post such stupidity. And make sure you continue the tactic of accusing the Right of posting hate-filled comments, which is exactly what you’ve done in this thread. How many unnecessary insults did you include in your posts? Do you not even see that you’re doing exactly what you accuse conservatives of doing?
Valerie commented:
Jeff,
More background.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/scott-brown-sarah-palin-john-mccain-lead-republican/story?id=10207965&page=1
Sarah Palin used a metaphor about continuing the health care debate, and reporters were all over it as if it were a death threat instead of a threat to vote. So, Jim wants to know when the real death threats to Sarah Palin and her family will get the same publicity.
He has a point.
Chisum commented:
OUTDUMBING THE DUMB LEFT
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/outdumbing_the_dumb_left.html
daryl commented:
Jeff #12 said:
“Nice try. I’m not lying and I have no idea what the “seminar leftist phrasing’ is. It’s a common phrase. I watch TV. I read……….”
That’s all well and good Jeff, but you also:
Evidently believe all of that s**t and regurgitate it verbatim every chance you get.
Anyone ever tell you you’re a pathetic excuse for someone we should believe, Jeff? And while you’re here how the hell is old Mutt doing these days?
w3bgrrl commented:
~ 1 minute in @ http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/10/bill_maher_with.html
Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.
Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.
Trish commented:
Hey Jeff- I’ll show you mine and you can try as hard as you might to show us yours!
http://www.black-and-right.com/2010/03/25/lets-compare-hate/#more-35626
Dick_Nixon commented:
“As if the GOP TARP bill ”
hmm, Congress in both Houses was controlled by the Democratic Party. They took power in January 2007, about the time the economy began dying.
Also, Obama has quadrupled the deficit. No complaints from you. Thanks for playing, head back over to Huffpo and brag about getting your arguments torched in less than 30 minutes.
firewifem commented:
Jeff (4); God love ya, but you are wrong. Just yesterday on Moonbattery, Sandra Bernhard posted regarding Sarah Palin that she (Sandra) would get her “big black brothers” to “gang rape” Sarah if she ever sets foot in New York. It’s still there. Go check it for yourself. The reason Allman and everyone else have not played the tapes or showed the videos or posted the police reports is because there aren’t any (at least not any to prove the point you want to make). I thought the highest form of patriotism was dissent? Tea Partiers are allowed by our Constitution to dissent and loudly. Barney Frank even acknowledged that; Allman played the audio this morning (if you were still listening).
Dick_Nixon commented:
“The old redistribution of wealth canard. ”
Please google Max Baucus and his comments in the last two days Jeff. Please, your level of ignorance is frightening.
firewifem commented:
Okay Jeff, let’s look at some of your arguments.
“Amazing spin and hate from you folks. Let’s look:
‘FEAR US YET…The political long knives are out and blood is in the water. You can run but you cannot hide.
powder is dry.’
No implied violence there, right? {rolls eyes}”
The words you quoted are called HYPERBOLE – it’s extreme exaggeration. My 7th grade students understand this. Come to class sometime; we’ll discuss.
“[Hoft] was implying on 97.1 that none of this stuff is happening. Have you been to a tea party rally? Have you seen the signs? The Hitler comparisons?”
Are you kidding me? Do you not recall during the Busch years the “Bush lied, people died” mantra? The calls of facist and Hitler by the left? Again, THE CONSTITUTION allows for free speech. People who disagreed with Bush (or Reagan or whatever conservative you want to pick) have used those words. Now that it’s aimed at the left’s precious Obama, it’s not okay? I thought this was America; the land of the free, the home of the brave. Let people be free, and be brave enough to take one on the chin (metaphorically speaking). If the left can’t take it, they should not dish it out.
Ginger commented:
Valerie….Thank you
I would also like to say that the Tea Party people are NOT and let me say it again…. are NOT just republicans! They are people of all political party line. We are first and foremost patriots of our wonderful America.
The Black Caucus could had went through the tunnel It was a set up to call us RACIST! Their cell phones were held up the whole distance. Jessie Jackson where is your proof? You held up your cell phone. Who are the RACIST
The man that was supposed to of spit on one of them their is a video out that shows the whole thing. The man had his hands cupped and you could see his lips moving that was chanting with others…KILL THE BILL The congressman or senator what ever he was walked real close right past the man. There was a police person right next to him. The accuser went in and came back out pointing around. Yes he had a policeman with him. The camera showed it all! If the man spit it was an accident.
I hate racist of all kinds! I especially hate LIARS!
daryl commented:
Valerie said:
“I am also one of the local resident Liberals. Yes, we do exist, and yes, we have vibrant cr@p detectors.”
Valerie
Please loan your vibrating crap detector to Jeff and let him run a self-examination on every orifice. I don’t think he knows that at least 90% of his rant was issueing out his arse.
Heck, he might get the message if he lets it run long enough.
kansas commented:
Johnson have a thread on Green Douchebags debunking this yet?
Valerie commented:
Well, well, well.
This is a nice round-up of what’s upsetting Jeff.
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/26/how-the-left-fakes-the-hate-a-primer/
Kind reminds me of the scene in the movie, “Patton,” where George C. Scott is re-enacting a discussion about Rommel, and how to defeat a master’s tactics:
“I read your book! I read your g*ddam book!”
Chippy commented:
W3bgrrl,
(1) IN GENERAL- There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans.
See, you have to have a hc plan that has to comply with this gov’t commission. If it does not, you will be fined. That fine will be levied by the the nice people at the IRS. These people will be able to get that money out of your bank account electronically. That sounds to me like the gov’t has the right to take control of your HC.
Chippy commented:
Who are “the other experts?” that will be involved with you gov’t run HC?
Dick_Nixon commented:
THREADJACK:
The North Koreans have apparently sank a South Korean warship in the last hour.
w3bgrrl commented:
Chippy, the way you originally put it in quotes I thought you were stating that the phrase appeared in the bill two thousand times. I went to the bill and searched for it as you suggested and it wasn’t there.
I’m not debating you on whether the bill expands federal powers. It does.
But if you presented that argument to a leftist they would destroy it in seconds since you are stating something that isn’t true and then disregard all the valid points you make about the real expansion of federal power. That is all.
Sandy commented:
Dems have no problem destroying the very foundation of this country but a caller saying Stupak is a piece of sh-t is cause for alarm. Never mind that Acorn threatened AIG executives by surrounding their homes until they agreed to step down–a rock hits a Congressman’s window 30 stories above ground and he needs extra security.
Jesus wept
Sandy commented:
We could end up with WW3 and a Depression as Obama continues to ignore Foreign Policy and our Economy. If we have another World War whose side will Obama be on?
Militant Conservative commented:
Jeff, your mastery of the english language is lacking. Ignorance is a temporary condition, it means you do not have the truth/facts. Not a dirty word. As far as the right wing (beck,coulter,rush) sorry I found them due to the MSM bing so snarky and rude, I thought they were like Howard Stern. Nope just common sense americans like me. Threats, again your showing your ignorance, Politics is known to be a blood sport. “the long knives” is a political term meaning one side or the other is going to get creamed either by thier own or thier opponent.
Not many lefties can stand long against the truth. They usually start screaming or babbling non sequitur facts.Your not worth my time. powder is dry.
Chisum commented:
The Left Is Desperate To Shift The Narrative
All the usual suspects are lining up at their keyboards, desperate to shift the narrative. But they no longer have the power they once had. Too bad. We see through you, those of us who watch to monitor. And most are even luckier, they simply choose to ignore you.
We’re not afraid of your zeitgeists any more. Boo!
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/03/the-left-is-desperate-to-shift-the-narrative.html
Valerie commented:
People who read, and do math, hate this bill, and of course the AP didn’t manage to catch on until after it was passed.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/26/ap-say-guess-what-we-just-found-in-obamacare/
The Democrats and Jeff are accusing innocent people who read and think of threatening them with violence because they don’t want to talk about the bill they signed into law without reading it or doing any of the math.
Nathan R. Jessup commented:
I signed the “thank you” card to Speaker Pelosi to tell her how most Americans REALLY feel. Today I got an email response from James Carville (if only he knew who I REALLY am, and how I really feel). Here is what he sent me:
Nathan –
This is nuts. At a time when most of America is celebrating historic health care legislation that’s been a century in the making, a few narrow-minded tea party nut jobs are trying to tarnish this great achievement.
But if you think these vile two-bit wing-nuts are just gonna slink back into whatever century they crawled out from now that health care reform is the law, think again.
The same uncorked tea party rage that we saw before the health care vote is now being used against the courageous House Democrats who stood strong and made it happen.
In fact, the slimy thugs at the Republican National Committee already raised $1,494,084 in their “Fire Nancy Pelosi” campaign. That’s why I’m asking you to help my Democratic friends in the House by contributing to their Million Dollar Match campaign.
(Is there anything Dems won’t take money for??)
Nathan R. Jessup
http://www.the-raw-deal.com
Chippy commented:
I agree with you w3bgrl. I am generalizing because libs aurgue with emotions. What I have found that the phrase, The Health Choices Commissioner shall have the right and deem what kind of coverage you get. That person is picked by the president (who works for the government).
There is also a panel who decides what kind of services you get.
“Pg 31 of 1017, (a) 9 members who are not federal employees or officers and who are appointed by the president.” complete strangers will be between you and your doctor telling your doctor what services you get. Looks to me like a time consuming bloated government takeover.
Zander commented:
This is what the Dems/Libs/Progs are doing to the TEA PEOPLE & Republicans, It’s straight from Saul Alinsky – “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.”!
Do not fall for it!
Warren Brown commented:
It seems strange that GOP atty. generals are filing suits against health care since states can simply opt. out. Couldn’t the $$$$ spent on those law suits be better spent on state needs?
Pat the First commented:
Warren Brown
March 26th, 2010 | 10:18 am | #83
It seems strange that GOP atty. generals are filing suits against health care since states can simply opt. out.
Uh, no they can’t. In fact, 5 years from now all the costs shift to the state. They should sue. And AG that does not sue is committing malpractice.
Militant Conservative commented:
You can call me names all day long. Nugget of wisdom here for free. I DO NOT GIVE OTHERS THE AUTHORITY OVER ME OR TO HURT ME. Alinsky’s tactics work only if you allow them too. My bipolar mom sadly taught me that if you do not play the game (manipulation) you can win every time. So you see, Jeff, I can use Alinsky’s tactics on you and your ilk because your emotion based. I however am using intellect guided by experiance. Yup, been to three tea parties, AND congressional town hall (Samford Bishop). P.S. he’s gonna lose big. He’s not my congressman and I am finacially supporting his opponent. Bad news for the liar. powder is dry.
Dick_Nixon commented:
powder is dry.
Implying something on a conservative website like this is a sign of mobyism.
newton commented:
Did you all notice how many of these Twitter threats against Sarah included a clear and concise call for MS13 (Mara Salvatrucha 13, the most violent and terroristic gang in all of the Americas, the foremost experts in the use of machetes to assassinate and silence their enemies) to finish her, her family, and the Tea Party movement?
If this is not a call for terrorism in this country, what is?
Militant Conservative commented:
Richard Cranium #87
WHAAAAAAA!
ugh commented:
I posted this link on a Yelp talk forum in San Francisco where someone suggest Michelle Bachmann should be shot. The moderators there never deleted it.
ronp123 commented:
Jeff:
I smell a whiff of a reichstag fire coming from your side of the aisle. how soon before we will need to be held for our and societies own good?
enjoy your “mission accomplished” moment – it all begins to massively change in november. and we will not forget.
shawn commented:
The Lazy Left losers are out of there minds again!!(LOL)..They want everything for free,but not pay a dime for it..You bitch and whined,about President Bush,about spending and the war,and blamed him for everything,even though we had a Democrat congress from(2006/Present)You called him a war criminal not a word about the Democrats who voted for the war,and there were many.And you want to talk about spending you better take a good look at O-bow-ma.You want Health care (buy it),you want to go the college (pay for it),stop sucking the country dry!!!
bg commented:
++
toxic brew
[The self-righteousness of the neo-Marxist fascists is such that they strongly believe they are justified (even in their "antiwar" personas)
to violently attack and/or intimidate any who disagree with them.
It just so happens, that these tenets (multiculturalism, political correctness, and radical environmentalism) represent three of
the four pillars that are the foundation of an evolving epistemological,
ethical and political strategy that the socialist remnants in the world have conceptualized and implemented to prevent their ideology from entering the dustbin of history.
And, what is most interesting is that, even as they encourage and enable Islam with the first three pillars; the Islamofascists are aiding and abetting them by using the fourth pillar- Terrorism.
We can think of the four pillars as the reason why we are witnessing a socialist revival (e.g., Hugo in the western hemisphere recently) and the rapid advancement of the Islamic Jihad all around the world.]
==
Militant Conservative commented:
ronp123
March 26th, 2010 | 12:13 pm | #92
Even better, every time the left opens its mouth to spill venom and hate they fire up the right and gain more converts to the TPM from the former democrats.
Yup, elderly black female appologized to me. I accepted gratiously and let her know, how does it feel to have been lied to and used by Obama? She is down for our struggle now, she has seen who has been holding the blacks down. Big government. sometimes the dems sometimes the repubs. Lets just cut your power down and take back our monies. problem fixed.
bg commented:
++
Valerie @ 9:26 am #68
imo, part & parcel consequences of the manufactured crisis stratagem..
thanks for posting that (had read an article
about it earlier on but couldn’t relocate it)..
==
emjem24 commented:
Death threats to Tea Party folks and the likes of conservatives like Palin? Okay.
“Alleged” threats to the left- bad.
So say the like of the MSM and Jeff who really think he know who originated the hate, who masters it, and uses the class envy and economic jealousy to pass a bill that won’t benefit ANYBODY, even the poor and the middle class.
I wouldn’t engage the likes of Jeff. Jeff, who is such a disingenuous troll and who would never acknowledge it, is what is known as a Dem Socialist. There are 75 members of the Democratic Socialist Party who also call themselves Dems, an inconvenient fact that Jeff either doesn’t know about or cares about.
The thing with people like Jeff, is that those who blindly support the Dem party, do so because they can’t see past their own ignorance, class/economic envy/jealousy, and are so torn up with hate themselves they want nothing short of a governmental reversal of all we know. People like Jeff, who hates former Pres. Bush so much (anti-war too? who knew?), would rather this country go off the cliff because it will be so much better to do away with our Constitutional Republic and the Constitution itself.
I mean, the Dems do think social welfare states are so awesome, even if they’re failing everywhere like in France and UK and are being reversed in places like Scandinavia. Then again, Jeff, you’re not a big believer of independent research so why should any of us think you really care about this country except to see it torn apart by Obamabots like you?
Here’s to sum up Jeff, and other Dem Socialists:
1. Kill of old people and do away with their benefits… old people vote more for Republicans so we can’t have that.
2. No benefits for kids and increased abortions. Wouldn’t want anybody producing kids besides illegals, right?
3. Tax the middle class until there is none.
4. Further enslave the poor because they rely on the Dems to lead them through life.
5. Put small businesses out of busines.. it’s already happening with people cutting back staff, and they’d rather pay the fine than pay for the healthcare “mandate.”
6. Put an end to our private health care system. Even though health care companies helped write the bill, they will lose in the long run. They will make short-term profits. Most rational people I’ve spoken to, who don’t have insurance, will pay the fine than the actual insurance which will lead to cost overruns and not enough money to support the system. Heath insurance companies will not be able to afford this system because they will be further regulated by Obamacare. People will drop them to such an extent that this law is nothing more than a back door to single payer. Something Jeff refuses to admit.
7. Increase in jobless rates. Hey, Jeff, why is it that businesses will have to fire people? Could it be that it will be too expensive to afford Obamacare, per employee? Nah, course not.
8. Big loser for big business. Jeff can belittle big business but they’re the ones that will lose. Not only in productivity, but in expansion, and profits. Yay… they will go out of business.
9. Further debt… no government program has been able to meet costs… there are always cost overruns… look at social security and medicare. Another thing that socialists like Jeff don’t care about. Gotta make this country fall some way, right Jeff?
These are only some of many problems that will exacerbate the collapse of our country. Then again, Dem Socialists don’t want people to retire or want old people to have health care or retirement, when they have young people who suck on their promises like dear old Jeff.
Then again, when people like Jeff and the Dem Socialists have stopped caring about this country and only want what’s entitled to them, we know what we’re up against, don’t we?
Valerie commented:
Why is the media even carrying this story?
http://www.wkrn.com/global/story.asp?s=12208009
Accident, one driver alleging road rage on the part of the other driver, due to an old Obama-Biden sticker.
Haven’t those old bumper stickers lost their shock value by now? And if it WAS an incident of road rage, isn’t it more likely that the cause was driver rudeness or innattention?
Just sayin’.
Rock commented:
Your statement that Main Stream has remained silent on this might be in error, was it not just recently that MSNBC Ed Schultz stated on air he wanted to rip out Cheney’s heart? It might be they called for it. But then Schultz and MSNBC are not really main stream, sorry I stand corrected you got it right.
AuntieMadder commented:
“…them retarded hillbillies…”
Real intellectuals, those libtards.
Mike commented:
Jeff whines:
“You guys are making my case for me.”
No, you’re making our case for us. Again, where’s the videos or any proof to back up anything you say?
Link or slink, bigot.
Mike commented:
Jeff, his panties firmly in a wad, hysterically whines:
“Anyone who is paying attention knows that it’s the tea party folks and other right wing extremists who are causing all the problems right now.”
Where’s your proof?
“Allman wouldn’t even play the nastiest voicemails left on Stupak’s machine. That’s how dishonest he is.”
Where’s your proof?
“And now you’re claiming that none of the racial epithets were used? Absurd.”
Where’s your proof?
“I suppose no one called Barney Frank a fa**ot either, right?”
Where’s your proof?”
“No one threw rocks through Rep. Slaughter’s office window either, right?”
Where’s your proof that anyone on the right wing did it?
I suppose if you were to admit that these things actually happened, you’d probably claim it was the liberals who were doing it.”
Where’s your proof?
Jeff, at the risk or hurting your precious precious feelings, I think most of us are immune, at this point, to girly-man hysteria.
It’s time for you to link or slink, bigot.
Mike commented:
Jeff continued to whine:
“Is this the 1940s? My kind? By the way, who said I was a liberal? I sure didn’t. You’re making assumptions. And, we’re talking about right now, not the 1940s.”
Jeff can’t tell, that people can tell he’s a liberal?
Michael Savage is right. Liberalism is a mental illness.
Mike commented:
One poster even admitted to using the “N” word more often because of Obama (Observation: you’re willfully blind to the racism but it’s right under your nose in this forum.).”
Oh dear, how terrible. How very very terrible. It’s time for a national day of atonement.
Never mind the fact that liberals like Jeff are generally anti-white bigots who support laws that discriminate against whites.
Nevermind the fact that liberals are usually the ones to start riots, burn down things, and issue death threats.
Nevermind the fact that blacks commit much more violent crime proportionality than whites.
Those things aren’t important.
Jeff lectures us that somebody using a word- . in private – is a very very bad thing to do. It’s much WORSE than the ACTUAL ACTS that liberals do, which don’t count anyway, so we should ignore them.
We must all get down on our knees and beg forgiveness, or else anti-white bigots like Jeff will call us “racists.”
No wait – they do that anyway – no matter what we do or say.
I guess he didn’t make a point after all. My bad.
Liberal Bob commented:
jiff,
I have video of it not happing!