House Dems: Obamacare Will Cost "Only" $940 Billion; Sunday Vote Planned
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 18, 2010, 5:38 AM
Democrats announced this morning that their plan to take over the nation’s health care industry will “only” cost the nation $940 billion over 10 years. This number will allow Democrats to push ahead with the transformation of the American economy. Democrats just announced this will allow them to vote on Sunday morning.
Will the last Democrat out of the smoke-filled backroom, please flush the toilet?
Democrats will do the unthinkable: They will expand coverage to millions of uninsured Americans and non-Americans while at the same time reducing the federal deficit…
And I have some beachfront property in Tucson for sale.
FOX News reported:
Democrats’ new health care reform bill is estimated to cost $940 billion over the next decade without adding to the deficit, sources told Fox News.
Sources said the estimates show the updated bill would save $130 billion over the first 10 years and save $1.2 trillion over the second decade.
ORIGINAL STORY …
The fate of the Democrats’ health care reform effort hinges on a report expected Thursday morning from the congressional budget scorekeepers — an estimate of what a follow-up bill could cost that already is running into trouble.
The Congressional Budget Office is set to release its estimate of the price tag for a so-called “side-car” package of changes to the overall health care reform bill that House Democrats insist on pursuing in exchange for approving, temporarily, the Senate-passed bill.
They want to consider the follow-up bill under “reconciliation” rules, which would allow the Senate to pass it with just 51 votes, instead of 60.
But there’s a problem: Some Democrats are jeopardizing that game plan by resisting the kind of sweeping tax needed in order to qualify for reconciliation rules.
In order to qualify, the CBO estimate must show that the bill saves at least $1 billion over five years and creates absolutely no deficit after that period of time. The Senate-passed bill includes a tax on high-value insurance plans to ensure the bill is paid for, but liberal Democrats and unions have long had issues with that tax — they wanted a straight tax on the wealthy in the original House bill.
Greta Van Susteren asks: Quit Lying?
I still do not understand HOW the health care bill cost (CBO estimate) can IGNORE the “doctor fix” in calculating the cost of health care reform – unless it is to simply an attempt to fool the American people and that simply is not right. The American people can face the truth, even the ugly truth – but we must first get it. It is the job of our politicians to play it straight, not to sleight of hand.
No matter what we do with health care, we will do the “doctor fix” which has been estimated at between $250-350 billion dollars. That is above and beyond the current CBO score. We must pay our doctors. That amount simply must be added to the total cost of health care. Is there any doubt doctors deliver health care and are part of our health care system?
More… GOP Leader John Boehner: Health-care overhaul won’t reduce costs, will drive up U.S. debt
Of course it will.
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Published May 24, 2012 at 8:46 pm - 67 Comments
Militant Conservative commented:
In the dark of night and on the Sabbath they insult America again. Turn the lights on and get these roaches outta here!
mcnorman commented:
Will someone please flush the toilet?
pjean commented:
Whew! I feel so much better, now. They will NEVER win me over with this bill, but now it is the whole process of this thing that angers me most.
pjean commented:
Quick note…
Does this same CBO review include the additional student college loan rescue? How can adding that provision, still put it under $1 Trillion?
bill-tb commented:
The final number is over $2.5 trillion when you take out all the chicanery and lies.
Procedure is the Constitution. Violate the procedure and you throw out the Constitution.
Indy Voter commented:
Curses, just read from Ace of Spades “going back into the group of “Maybes” is Heath Shuler (NC-11), who I had in the “No Means No” group. That gives Pelosi another possible target for a pick-up.”
Well, Heath Shuler is the Blue Dog Whip so if he’s conservative, he should vote no…read the WSJ article on MA healthcare costs which would bankrupt the state w/o Federal dollars flowing in http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703625304575115691871093652.html
Please call / email / fax, there are candidates running against him Dr. Dan Eichenbaum is one, Rep. Shuler will go down if he votes for this. Is he a Blue Dog or Lap Dog?
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dnb commented:
Amazing that there are undecided Democrats who will vote yes to this report, knowing that it was brought in under $1 trillion with bandaids and a finger in the dike. Is there no honorable person among them? Has the entire party lost their souls? The eyes are America are upon you. What will your name mean in 100 years?
Neoavatara commented:
Well, with 6 years of spending and 10 years of taxes, of course this worked out for the best.
What a joke.
Pat the First commented:
According to a report I saw in the last 15 minutes on Fox News is that it is 212 – Yes and 216 – No. They have 4 days to pick up those 4 votes. Unfortunately, the way the so-called “Blue Dogs” are folding that should not be hard for San Fran Nan to pick up just 4 votes.
Hear comes B.O.’s “Deathcare”.
Hedgehog commented:
Figures don’t lie. Liars figure.
Fishinnana commented:
So let me get this straight; the house is going to deem and pass a $900 billion senate health care bill then pass another bill to fix that bill by reconciliation that will cost another $940 billion; and we are supposed to believe it’s not going to add to the deficit. Yea, we’re stupid like that.
katy commented:
Rep. Steven King (IA) is calling for millions to show at Capitol, Saturday noon. Trying to get permits now.
Heard on Glenn Beck.
Stop this now!
jbinnout commented:
Leave the fan on and open a window. This is going to leave a stink for years.
PamelaofthePoconos commented:
Rasmussen pres tracking back down: minus 20 today.
Neoavatara commented:
Without the doctor fix included, this number is meaningless, because without that fix you will see doctors fleeing Medicare and Medicaid. That money WILL be spent, so you can tack on another $250 billion or so.
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10387
Andreas K. commented:
“They will expand coverage to millions of uninsured Americans and non-Americans while at the same time reducing the federal deficit…”
Which costs more money, of course, and this is going to reduce the deficit how?
Ok wait.
If I spend more, then it reduces my deficit. Right?
I read today that Germany has 1.7 trillion Euros debt, which continues to grow. Germany is a welfare state. 1+1=2
jbinnout commented:
Our pastor on Sunday said he got a letter last week from the census bureau saying that he will be getting a mailing from them soon. He estimated that if they sent one to every household that it cost around $35 million, and these guys are this close (finger and thumb half in. apart) to running our health care.
We are soooo screwed.
Son of Liberty commented:
Democrats are lying. CBO doesn’t have the analysis yet. Anyone surprised?
Robb76 commented:
You folks that have bridges to sell might consider
offin’ them sunday.
Bucko commented:
I wonder if they are calculating the deminishing tax revenues from the Bush tax cut roll backs and the increased unemployment?
Fewer people working equals less tax revenue coming in.
There is NO WAY they can finance this fiasco without increasing the taxes on the working middle class.
We could possibly see 50% tax just to cover all the Democraps waste.
bill-tb commented:
Voting on the Sabbath to federally fund abortion. How cool is that.
Maybe we should wait for the Obama the unicorn salesman to tell us how good it is.
Anybody actually seen what CBO is alleged to be ‘scoring’. I think our unicorn salesman is over at the CBO right this minute.
Cher Cropper commented:
Bucko just a couple or so years ago there was a period when the US Treasury collected a record amount of taxes under your “Bush tax cut diminishing revenues”. The reason those collections aren’t going back up is all the uncertainty and turmoil created by the Democrats and their utopian ideas since 2006. No one wants to hire when they can’t predict what it will cost six months from now.
Tom commented:
We need to surround the capital this weekend with millions of Patriots and not leave until they vote this UNCONSTITUTIONAL TYRANNICAL CRAP LOAD OF A BILL DOWN AND RESOLVE NOT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE FLOOR IN THIS FORM EVER AGAIN!
This is the last stand for our freedom in a non violent way, if they get this through we will have to resort to methods that will not be very nnice for us or them!
THE WILL OF THE FREE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED OR TREATED WITH SUCH DISREGARD, IT WILL BE AT THEIR OWN PERIL THAT THEY PASS THIS BILL!
FREEDOM OVER TYRANNY AT ALL COST!!!
Opus #6 commented:
I picture the CBO folks toiling with Pelosi and the rest of the Soros flunkies breathing down their necks.
Pat the First commented:
It doesn’t matter what we do. It is going to happen. I paid for Medicare all my working life. Now, what I paid for is going to be gutted to a shell. Great.
I cannot tell you how angry this makes me. And we are just helpless. Absolutely helpless because they DO NOT CARE what we want or think. They DO NOT CARE! It really isn’t worth contacting anyone. It does no good.
Major Kong commented:
Pat The First @ 25
I share your frustration and anger. We cannot throw up our hands and quit at this critical juncture. They have been attempting to abraid our resistance, don’t let them. It’s far from over even if the democrats pass this abomination. We will back candidates who vow to repeal We will file countless lawsuits seeking immediate injunctive relief and remedy.
Consider calling House Minority Leader Cong. John Boehner’s D.C. office (202) 225-6205 and requesting if Democrats convene and vote this Sunday that he lead Republicans out of chamber en masse in protest.
Never, never never quit.
Joanne commented:
Pat the First – when people realize Obama doesn’t care about how the American people feel and is going to do exactly what he wants regardless, then people can confront the fact that Obama is not the President of the people, but the Usurper/Dictator of America. Sooner or later people are going to realize that they need to change their tactics from trying to get their representatives to actually represent them with verbal persuasion to kicking those traitors out of office and into prison cells.
Unfortunately, it is a process, but the American people have come a long way in over a year, so God help America in another year’s time.