Hamas Sermon in Gaza: Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, March 15, 2010, 5:48 AM
MEMRI reported, via Free Republic:
Preacher: “The prophecy of the conquest of Rome remains valid, Allah willing. Just like Constantinople was conquered some 500 years ago, Rome too will be conquered.
“Our prayers, our fasting, and the charity we give will be to no avail, if we doubt the Prophet Muhammad. How can we proceed along the path of righteousness, if we are not secure in our belief that Rome will be conquered, as promised by the Prophet Muhammad and as proclaimed by Allah?”
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Militant Conservative commented:
See, thier picking fights with the world. Must be a peacefull religion. They just want to “conquer”.
Aitch748 commented:
Kinda puts the whole “Israel stole land from the Arabs/Palestinians” meme in perspective, doesn’t it? People like this preacher think the whole world is rightfully theirs.
bg commented:
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OT must see..
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BigJ commented:
The Religion of Peace will conquer Rome. Huh?
Reuel Sample commented:
The reality, though, is that Islam is spreading across Europe like a wild fire. From the French Embassy Website: “While Catholicism is the most widely practised [sic] religion in France with approximately 30 million churchgoers, Islam is in second place, with 3.7 to 5.5 million Muslims out of metropolitan France’s total population of around 63 million (5 to 9%).” This points to a movement that is not military in nature – but cultural, political, and social.
Until Europe wakes up to that fact – and the fact that there are fundamental differences between Islam and Christianity – Rome may just find itself besieged some day.
Major Kong commented:
More confirmation of what all but the craven, politically correct revisionists have always known: Islam is a “religion” that has been spread through conquest not consent. Perhaps with the indigenous European birthrates falling off Muslims could well be the dominant demographic in Italy and Europe. The Church, however, is not buildings and real estate. As Jesus assured us, “The gates of Hell shall not prevail against my Church.”
bg commented:
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The Third Jihad
Boiling The Infidel Frog
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal and work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning.
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare.
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing, use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide.
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – the Islamic House of Peace – there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim.
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Dell commented:
And the Vatican is located where?
Gonna’ take on the Catholics AND Jews?
I’m not sure, but allah may have bitten off more than he can chew.
FatBaldnSassy commented:
Islam is a symptom of the West’s social sickness, not a cure. Its followers are destined to be backward, barefoot and poverty stricken as long as they follow its false prophet.
Reuel Sample commented:
Another statistic – this one for Italy: According to latest Italian official statistics, Muslims make up about 34% of the 2,400,000 foreign residents living in Italy as of January, 1, 2005.
Just a thought commented:
They can have Rome AND The Vatican. But if they want Daytona and Miami Beach, they’ll have a real war on their hands. There’s no way that we’ll ever let our bikini-clad babes here wear burkas.
Patrick commented:
The Islamists tell you what they want and why if you will listen. Of course, the typical western secular progressive has a hard time getting their mind around such religeous based dogma, and will manufacture excuses or motivations they can understand, i.e. poverty, hopelessness, legitimate gripes due to western (i.e. American) imperialism, etc.
Major Kong commented:
Oh yeah, the Christian Crusades were a response to unchallenged Islamic aggression that went unanswered for hundreds of years. Given the uneasy tension that is becoming prevalent throughout the European Union, and more and more so in this country, I would not bet against a severe push-back against Islamic violence.
Joanne commented:
Obviously this dude has no recollection personally of the Roman Catholic Crusades, and if he thinks followers of Islam are bad asses, then he hasn’t seen anything yet…and it isn’t a compliment.
squeaky commented:
[Non-Muslim inmates at the high-security Long Lartin jail have been forced by the gangs to stop playing "Western" music and take down pictures of women from their cells, according to one former prison officer there. Prisoners at the jail, although allowed to cook their own food, are not allowed to..] time to tell them to foad allah-shmallah willing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/7428933/Muslim-gangs-imposing-sharia-law-in-British-prisons.html
Just a thought commented:
Maybe it isn’t religious zeal. Maybe it’s genetic, a compulsion to move west that began with cro-magnon man hoards coming out of the east and swarming over Europe.
Like soldier ants. Nobody knows why they go on the move destroying everything in their path. They just do.
Maybe nature gives Semites an irresistible urge to go west. That would explain why the Jews took over Las Vegas and Hollywood.
Major Kong commented:
Joanne @ 14
if he thinks followers of Islam are bad asses, then he hasn’t seen anything yet…
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Indeed
Gharles “The Hammer” Martel
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03629a.htm
In October, 732, Charles met Abd-er-Rahman outside of Tours and defeated and slew him in a battle (the Battle of Poitiers) which must ever remain one of the great events in the history of the world, as upon its issue depended whether Christian Civilization should continue or Islam prevail throughout Europe. It was this battle, it is said, that gave Charles his name, Martel (Tudites) “The Hammer”, because of the merciless way in which he smote the enemy.
bg commented:
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Obama Administration Stacking The Deck With Islamists
[Abdul-Malik also makes no bones about discussing how the election of President Obama is a step forward in the project of Islamization and the long term goal of Islamist domination which falls right in lock-step with that of the Muslim Brotherhood as revealed in their manifesto.
[..]
“…even under the pressures that you and I know about, the deen of Islam is growing because people see even within all of this struggle it is better to be a Muslim under these conditions than to be a kaffir under any conditions… before Allah closes our eyes for the last time you will see Islam move from being the second largest religion in America-that’s where we are now- to being the first religion in America.”]
Islamic Infiltration part 1
Islamic Infiltration part 2
Terror czar deserves honorary membership in the Muslim Brotherhood
["How can we possibly confront Islamist radicalization if the President's principal advisor on counterterrorism cannot appropriately identify political Islam as the problem?" said Jasser. "Al Qaida is merely one of many tools of militant political Islam. It is the ideology that they adhere
to that we must be at war with and counter frontally in the public sector, because it is at war with us.
As we have seen over the past year, the common thread of theo-political Islam is what drives militants around the world. Mr. Brennan and the President must provide leadership in articulating the real threat and addressing the root cause of Islamist terror. The Muslim Brotherhood
and Islamists can speak for themselves."]
more here (a bit more scattered throughout posts
here, as well as many other posts @ GP & the net)..
i highly recommend reading/viewing as many related articles/videos asap as they are being purged from the net fastser than you can say Obama is an IslaMarxist..
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A_Nonny_Mouse commented:
Somebody tell that slime-faced pig that Allah is NOT willing. Allah doesn’t exist (except perhaps as an alternate name for an entity known as Old Nick, and occasionally as The Great Deceiver)..
bg commented:
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aside from his well of deception, when Obama stated:
“I will stand with the Muslims should the
political winds shift in an ugly direction”
what else was needed to be heeded??
how stupid is stupid, defines US, gah!!
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bg commented:
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one has to ask themselves how good an Islamist
Obama is when Muslims speak out against him??
It’s not over until it’s over
[Could we be more blind? Acts of terror are rooted in the aspirations of Islamists to create an Islamic state and impose their version of Shariah law.]
“The Arabs Have Stopped Applauding Obama”
[A foreign policy of penance has won America no friends.]
Weakening Islamism is Vital to Improve US Image in the Muslim world
[Trying to satisfy the Muslim world by changing the US will not be effective unless the US is ready to end its values of freedom and liberty and adopt an Islamic Sharia system.]
On the Job Training
[I hope after Nidal Hasan, after the American jihadis in Pakistan, and now after the Christmas bomber radicalized in London, that you see
our need for clear leadership against political Islam and its ubiquitous permeating militant manifestations. We need a leader who recognizes that this conflict is most significantly within Muslim communities as we Muslims struggle with the conflict between theocracy and democracy, sharia and liberty, Islamism and freedom, and salafism and modernity. The longer you squander your leadership and stay silent on this, the more vulnerable we will be.]
A Cold-Blooded Foreign Policy
[History and its furies have their logic, and they have not bent to Mr. Obama's will. He had declared a unilateral end to the "war on terror," but the jihadists and their mentors are yet to call their war to a halt. From Yemen to Fort Hood and Detroit, the terror continues.
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Under Mr. Obama, we have pulled back from the foreign world. We’re smaller for accepting that false choice between burdens at home and burdens abroad, and the world beyond our shores is more hazardous and cynical for our retrenchment and our self-flagellation.]
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wanumba commented:
Excellent and necessary background for this:
EMPIRES OF THE SEA
The stunning smash of East versus West with the expanding Ottoman Empire under Sulieman the Great against fractured Christian Europe led by Spain to protect Rome and Europe against Muslim conquest.
History classes are full of the Spanish conquest of the New World, focussing on Spain’s greed for gold, never mentioning that there is a very good chance that if Spain had not gotten gold from South America, it would not have had the money to fight the advance of the Ottomans thru the Mediterranean.
The Ottoman Empire used state piracy and slavery to terrorize the European coastline. In Algiers, the “great depot of white slaves” European slves were so numerous, they sold a slave for an onion. Rome was Sulieman’s goal, to conquer the seat of Christendom and establish Islam. Constantinople was just half the conquest, Rome was to complete it.
It’s long past time for Americans to find out why Malta is so important, why the radical Muslim leadership keeps referring to events of the past as if they happened just yesterday.
bg commented:
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Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam
albeit might be easier this time, it sure
wouldn’t be the first time they tried..
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism
27-10-1940 Mussolini and Hitler speak in Florence
Hitler and Mussolini
HITLER IN ROME
1943-GERMAN INVASION OF ITALY
From Al Husseini to Hitler :Radical Islam and
the Nazi connection – Pan Arabism to the PA
[Amin Al-Husseini arrives in Rome, where he meets fascist leader
Benito Mussolini, the genocidal butcher of Ethiopians in Africa.]
and much more..
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bg commented:
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History of Religion
Imperial History of the Middle East
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Andreas K. commented:
Ha! As if. The Italians are the first in Europe to already form militias, because they’re fed up with people like that mullah.
The Italians.
We used to laugh at the Italians when I was younger.
Now we look at them to see how it’s done.
Kay commented:
@Reuel SampleNo Gravatar
March 15th, 2010 | 10:18 am | #5
The reality, though, is that Islam is spreading across Europe like a wild fire. From the French Embassy Website: “While Catholicism is the most widely practised [sic] religion in France with approximately 30 million churchgoers, Islam is in second place, with 3.7 to 5.5 million Muslims out of metropolitan France’s total population of around 63 million (5 to 9%).” This points to a movement that is not military in nature – but cultural, political, and social.
Until Europe wakes up to that fact – and the fact that there are fundamental differences between Islam and Christianity – Rome may just find itself besieged some day.
Hey Reuel – the ONLY reason why Islam is growing in Europe is because Europe was kind enough to open their doors to immigration and treat these people as equals. I think the only countries that have learned this lesson are: China, Japan and Korea who are trying to keep their populations “pure” – without immigration and immigration’s issues like bringing cultural influences along with them and not integrating into the host country’s culture.
Hamas is a gutter organization and if they take Rome, it will turn Rome into a sewer also. Roaches and rodents have a habit of doing that: moving where its nice and plentiful and turning it into a pile of S-h*t
Andreas K. commented:
Well Kay, Japan has immigration, but they don’t have a welfare state like Germany (one third of the annual budget in Germany goes solely into that) and they don’t hand out citizenships left and right, even to people who can’t speak the language (happens here all the time.) Then you have foreigners in Europe, who have been here 20, 30 years and speak zero German or French or English. Japan also doesn’t hand unemployment money to people released from jail.
In Japan, if you want the citizenship… oh dear. You get visits by the police. They check who you are and if the country wants you there.
When you are a foreigner and live in Japan, well, then you have two choices:
1) you adapt, as the old saying goes “In Japan there are only Japanese ways”
2) you don’t adapt, and will run home crying very soon, because you won’t be able to take even just daily life.
bg commented:
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wanumba @ 12:01 pm #22
just a sample:
Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa
When Europeans Were Slaves of North Africa
[A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.
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“Enslavement was a very real possibility for anyone who traveled in the Mediterranean, or who lived along the shores in places like Italy, France, Spain and Portugal, and even as far north as England and Iceland.”]
Islam’s White Slavery
[The Muslim advance through the Middle East and North Africa meant the re-establishment, on a massive scale, of the slave trade, a trade which the Christian rulers of the late Roman Empire, particularly Justinian, had almost brought to an end. Historian Bat Ye’or says: “When Amr conquered Tripoli (Libya) in 643, he forced the Jewish and Christian Berbers to give their wives and children as slaves to the Arab army as part of their jizya. From 652 until its conquest in 1276, Nubia was forced to send an annual contingent of slaves to Cairo. Treaties concluded with the towns of Transoxiana [Iranian central Asia], Sijistan [eastern Iran], Armenia, and Fezzan (Maghreb) under the Umayyads and Abbasids stipulated an annual dispatch of slaves from both sexes. However, the main sources for the supply of slaves remained the regular raids on villages within the dar-al-harb [non-Islamic regions] and the military expeditions which swept more deeply into the infidel lands, emptying towns and provinces of their inhabitants.” (Bat Ye’or, The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude (New Jersey, 1996) p. 108).]
Muslim Slavery Today
Islamic Sex Slavery in Indonesia Today
Muslim Slavery Still Exists
[My Slave, My Infidel is the story of the indigenous non-Arab Sudanese tribes in South Sudan and the western region of Darfur who are victimized by the Sudan government and their illegal militias who abduct slaves in the wake of the terror of Jihad.
Under the guise of civil war, the National Islamic Front government of Sudan declared Islamic Jihad against the infidels South Sudan that was further fueled by the discovery of oil in the borderlands. According to the Qoran, an element of the Jihad calls for the enslavement of the Infidel. The film tells the story of the people who risked their lives in the midst of Jihad to rescue the slaves while the international community turned its back.
Goda Gadam Mohammed, a Sudanese Arab from the Reizegat Tribe of Darfur (the perpetrator tribe of the Janjiweed and the Murahaleen) followed the Jihad - until his compassion for the victims caused him to turn against the Jihad and his government. Godas compelling storytelling from the Arab perspective completes the films balance.]
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Opus #6 commented:
Religion of Pieces.
bg commented:
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okay, everyone made a big stink about Ellison being sworn in on
‘Jefferson’s Koran’, what they neglected to tell you is the reason
Jefferson had a Koran in the first place was to ‘study the enemy’..
Quotations About Islam by Famous Men
Thomas Jefferson
And, in Thomas Jefferson’s term,
”The Barbary Wars” were to free Americans who were taken as slaves from their merchant ships traveling near North Africa. They were taken by Muslim pirates who used the Koran to justify taking the Americans, because they were Christians, not Muslims.
The Barbary Wars are historic because Congress was adjourned when President Jefferson signed the declaration of war, causing uproar within the Congress! Congress called the wars “Mr. Jefferson’s War”, but after millions of dollars, and four years the Americans concerned, were freed! It is noteworthy that during Jefferson’s term, the young Democracy was still largely financed by individuals who never received reimbursement for their efforts.”
Ayatollah Khomeini
Khomeini accordingly delivered notorious rebuke
to the Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace crowd:
“Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says:
Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
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Tom Stelene commented:
If Mr. Imam is right, little girls will have to watch out more than little boys now do!
bg commented:
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Kay @ 12:57 pm #26
re: [This points to a movement that is not military
in nature – but cultural, political, and social.]
if you’ve (not specific you, in general) listened closely to
Obama’s “just words”, that is exactly what he preaches..
that is the Muslim Brotherhood “project” (bg #18)..
post #19
[Later -- during his interview with United Church News -- Obama continued his thoughts about religion and politics; specifically, the role of religious principles in reaching a balance between national security and social justice concerns.
"I believe that democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal values," Obama said. "Social justice and national security are both universal values, values that may originate for some in their religious beliefs, but are shared by us all."]
also check out post #5..
the enemy is Political Islam (for all intent & purpose, Marxism by any other name) aka: Sharia Law (of which Obama is a proponent) aka: Islamism (of which Obama calls “universal (fitb)”)..
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bg commented:
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Tom Stelene @ 2:06 pm #31
Ayatollah Khomeini’s Religious Teachings
on Marriage, Divorce and Relationships
["A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."]
Undercover Mosque
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Ladue Pundit commented:
All of the warning bells being rung here today are silent in the history books of our schools today. And that includes private schools.
I home schooled my kids for 5 years; there are many good books available, mostly Catholic and Protestant.
Take a look at your kids’ books. Look up “Roe vs Wade” and the “Crusades” in the index. Find out what your kids are learning.
If you are lucky, the teacher doesn’t use the book.
Tom Stelene commented:
Wow bg, thanks for the info! …I’m not exactly surprised, though!
bg commented:
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Tom Stelene @ 4:14 pm #35
you’re welcome, this shouldn’t
surprise anyone either.. *sigh*
Not Again! Meet Obama’s newest controversial pastor. Champion
of communism, socialism called U.S. ‘destroyer of human life’
[Wallis was in the news last week urging Christians to stop watching Fox News host Glenn Beck’s program for Beck’s remarks against churches that preach “social justice.”
[..]
Wallis, however, is a long time socialist advocate and founder of a far-left magazine, Sojourners, that has championed communist causes.
He currently serves on Obama’s White House Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. He reportedly is a spiritual advisor to Obama and has known the president for years.
Wallis began his activism as a protestor and then later Michigan leader of the Students for a Democratic Society, the 1960’s antiwar group from which Bill Ayers’ Weatherman domestic terrorist organization splintered.
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Sojourners’ official “statement of faith” urges readers to “refuse to accept [capitalist] structures and assumptions that normalize poverty and segregate the world by class.”
Sojourners has published a slew of radical writers, including socialist activist Cornel West and James Cone, considered the founder of Black Liberation Theology which spawned the likes of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor of nearly twenty years.
[..]
Discover the Networks notes how Sojourners originally formed a socialist commune in Washington DC, where members shared finances and launched anti-capitalist activism.
In his 1976 book, “Agenda for Biblical People,” Wallis called the U.S. “the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life, the great master of humanity and history in its totalitarian claims and designs.”
Wallis continues to openly support socialism. Along with socialist activist West, Wallis in 1995 founded Call to Renewal, a coalition of religious groups demanding the spread of U.S. wealth to promote “social justice.”
As a guest on MSNBC last week, Wallis stated
“social justice” is at the heart of the bible.]
more @ link..
”I am certain nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after the mirage
of social justice.”
“I have come to feel strongly that the greatest service I can still render to my fellow men would be that I could make the speakers and writers among them thoroughly ashamed ever again to employ the term ’social justice’.”
~Friedrich A. Hayek
[standard disclaimer: source Wikipedia]
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Tom Stelene commented:
I know this may not be appreciated here but truth is, if one does his historical and philosophical homework, one will see that communism is right out of Christianity. Wallis is right. Of course, I think he’s a scumbag.
bg commented:
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Tom Stelene @ 5:33 pm #37
there is a grain of truth in everything, that doesn’t make everything the same.. and don’t forget Christianity went through a reformation (ie: The New Testament), not to mention that not all Christians are of the same breed so to speak.. unlike Communism by any other name..
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bg commented:
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ps re: bg #38
if Communism came from the Bible, then something diabolical
occurred between its birth & the maturation of its own dogma..
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jb commented:
Other than the “72 Virgins” bit, Islam has a dude chatting with and being protected by arachnids.
Conquered Constantinople? Well, perhaps in a certain worldly understanding, but the Orthodox Faith is flourishing.
Everybody and their brother has gone after Rome, too.
Islam, pretending itself to be spiritual, has proven itself, and its founder, to be little more than radical oppressive jerks–wishing to tell everyone how to live in this world, with no vision of the next, and oppressing their own people.
Scott commented:
The closest they came was 846 AD when they sacked Rome and looted the basilicas of St Peter and St Paul.
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/christianity-vs-islam-who-started-this-whole-mess/
This was also 249 years before the First Crusade. Who’s provoking who eh?
Blackwater commented:
This is why we need to stop giving any kind of aid or capital to muslim majority countries. Seems like a lot of them are playing nice and pretending to be our friend until they accumulate enough wealth and power in the future to continue what they had been doing for the last 1300 years up until WWI when the islamic ottoman empire was finally crushed by the West. Most people don’t realize this but muslim empires have conquered, colonized and occupied European countries on numerous occassions. Modern day Instanbul and Turkey used to be called Constantinople and was the capital of European Christian civilization for several hundred years until it was finally invaded and occupied by muslims about 500 years ago. They also occupied Southern Europe including Greece and Italy for several hundred years and even made it as far as Germany until they were finally pushed back and defeated. They also invaded and occupied Spain for several hundred years and it took the Christians hundreds of years to reclaim Spain. And the crusades were in large part a call to arms in order to defend themselves from invading muslim empires. Also muslim empires enslaved almost 2 million Europeans including many early Americans. Thomas Jefferson actually created the U.S. Navy in order to crush this islamic empire based in North Africa to liberate our people from slavery (something which Ron Paul derided as “foreign adventuring” and “imperialism”). And arab muslims invaded almost all of Africa and enslaved millions upon millions of blacks (far more that Europeans ever did) and barbarically shipped them all throughout the global islamic empire. They even cut their genitals off and murdered their infants which is why there’s practically zero black people in the middle east even though they once made up the majroity of the population not very long ago (and they did the same thing to Europen slaves). Most slaves that the muslims took were females which they used as sex slaves. They especially targeted children (both male and female) to be used as child prostitutes. And yet the islamists and arabs (and their Western leftist apologists) have the nerve to whine about Western imperialism and grievances. And they get away with it because the left has systematically erased this from our history books because it doesn’t fit their anti-Western narrative. Islam is inherently imperialist, oppressive and barbaric and people need to start realizing that.
bg commented:
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Scott @ 1:39 am #41
thumbsup & thanks..
and in case you missed it:
Imperial History of the Middle East
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bg commented:
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ps re: bg #43
re: Scott @ 1:39 am #41
that reminds me..
Background: the US Turkey-Armenia ‘genocide’ ruling
CrossTalk on Genocide: Turkey’s Burden
US Congress warned over Turkey-Armenia ‘genocide’ vote
Swedish PM urges Turkey to not let ‘genocide’ bill harm ties
Accommodation as an Islamist Political Instrument
[First, we heard about a large group of Somali Muslim airport cabbies in Minneapolis refusing to provide service to travelers carrying alcohol or using dogs. At first, the airport moved to accommodate, but then the Somalis lost the battle to impose coercive interpretations of sharia (Islamic law) upon airport travelers. We recently have also seen airports, schools and universities agreeing to install foot-washing stations for Muslim airport cabbies and students at a significant cost to taxpayers in the name of special accommodations for Muslims. In Lincoln Park, Michigan, a few Muslim women insisted that a co-ed health club to which they signed up provide them a women’s-only room for exercise. Fitness USA acquiesced under fears of litigation despite the fact that the Muslim women signed up for no such guarantee with their enrollment contract.
In the past few weeks we’ve seen the Islamist political agenda in the U.S. carry itself further bringing the debate to Carver Elementary School in Oak Park, California. A substitute teacher brought forth a complaint to the district’s school board that a 15 minute break in classroom teaching was carved out for Muslim prayers. The influx of over 100 Somali Muslim students from another failed school brought with it swift efforts by Carver administration to accommodate to their needs. The issue has since carried far beyond San Diego and simple personal accommodation. The debate centers on the limits to which accommodation can impose changes and obligations upon others and on the entire system. Some argue that religious freedom is secondary to classroom instruction time and the strict separation of religion and state. Others have contrarily taken the opportunity and suggested, in all fairness, that public schools have a more global “daily prayer time policy”.
[..]
The Establishment Clause of our Constitution and the pluralism upon which our nation is based carries with it principles which should always be remembered. Our freedom to practice our personal faith should never be denied. And the courts have repeatedly endorsed this as a right guaranteed by our First Amendment rights to free speech and religious practice.
However, once that right begins to impose a cost, whether financial or experiential, upon another citizen, that right ends. For with that cost, it becomes an imposition—a coercive force. A political force—in this case, Islamism.
[..]
slamist organizations, like CAIR who never met a demand from rigid Muslims they didn’t like, will continue to demand ‘logistical requirements of faith’ all the while intimidating non-Muslims into allowing them to control public spaces and times. Whether cabbies in Minnesota, children at San Diego schools, or women at Michigan fitness clubs, the Islamist agenda is transparent. It’s all about accommodation with no sense of moderation. Necessary for the validity of these demands of accommodation is a deeply rigid uncompromising interpretation of Islam—salafism and Wahhabism. Flexibility and moderation would make these demands generally disappear.
[..]
There is no greater laboratory of religious liberty and freedom than in the United States. Most of our parents escaped our motherlands in order to practice our personal spirituality more freely here than in so-called Muslim lands. They did not come to exploit and impose. American freedoms and openness to accommodate will be exploited by Islamists seeking a Muslim body politic. This will all continue as long as other non-Islamist and anti-Islamist Muslims stay silent to the exploitation of Islam for the Islamist political agenda.]
more @ link & much more here..
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bg commented:
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Blackwater @ 4:36 am #42
all sadly true & widely unrecognized to the point of
denial & detriment & death by Islamists & Obama..
[Around the world, free speech is being sacrificed on the altar of religion. Whether defined as hate speech, discrimination or simple blasphemy, governments are declaring unlimited free speech as the enemy of freedom of religion. This growing movement has reached the United Nations, where religiously conservative countries received a boost in their campaign to pass an international blasphemy law. It came from the most unlikely of places: the United States.
While attracting surprisingly little attention, the Obama administration supported the effort of largely Muslim nations in the U.N. Human Rights Council to recognize exceptions to free speech for any "negative racial and religious stereotyping."[..]
In the resolution, the administration aligned itself with Egypt, which has long been criticized for prosecuting artists, activists and journalists for insulting Islam. For example, Egypt recently banned a journal that published respected poet Helmi Salem merely because one of his poems compared God to a villager who feeds ducks and milks cows. The Egyptian ambassador to the U.N., Hisham Badr, wasted no time in heralding the new consensus with the U.S. that “freedom of expression has been sometimes misused” and showing that the “true nature of this right” must yield government limitations.
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Thinly disguised blasphemy laws are often defended as necessary to protect the ideals of tolerance and pluralism. They ignore the fact that
the laws achieve tolerance through the ultimate act of intolerance: criminalizing the ability of some individuals to denounce sacred or sensitive values. We do not need free speech to protect popular thoughts or popular people. It is designed to protect those who challenge the majority and its institutions. Criticism of religion is the very measure of the guarantee of free speech — the literal sacred institution of society.
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The public and private curtailment on religious criticism threatens religious and secular speakers alike. However, the fear is that, when speech becomes sacrilegious, only the religious will have true free speech. It is a danger that has become all the more real after the decision of the Obama administration to join in the effort to craft a new faith-based speech standard. It is now up to Congress and the public to be heard before the world leaves free speech with little more than a hope and a prayer.]
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