Figures. Politico Uses Evangelical Obama Voter In Tea Party Hit Piece

The Politico ran a hit piece today about how “The Tea Parties Stir Evangelical Fears.”

Tea parties stir evangelicals’ fears

The rise of a new conservative grass roots fueled by a secular revulsion at government spending is stirring fears among leaders of the old conservative grass roots, the evangelical Christian right.

A reeling economy and the massive bank bailout and stimulus plan were the triggers for a resurgence in support for the Republican Party and the rise of the tea party movement. But they’ve also banished the social issues that are the focus of many evangelical Christians to the background….

“As far as I can tell [the tea party movement] has a politics that’s irreligious. I can’t see how some of my fellow conservatives identify with it,” said Richard Cizik, who broke with a major evangelical group over his support for government action on climate change, but who remains largely in line with the Christian right on social issues. “The younger Evangelicals who I interact with are largely turned off by the tea party movement — by the incivility, the name-calling, the pathos of politics.”

So who is Richard Cizik?
…He’s an Obama supporter.

Richard Cizik is not your average every day evangelical. He supported the pro-abortion, pro-infanticide Barack Obama in 2008 for president.
From Christianity Today:

Cizik told Gross that he voted for Obama in the primaries, but stopped short of saying whom he voted for in the general election.

No wonder he hates those uncivil teabaggers!

Next time Politico, would you please use a conservative for your tea party hit peace?
Is that asking too much?

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  • Concerned Citizen

    Figures. Sheesh!

  • Sage

    So you’re using one obama voter as a representative example of evangelicals now? I know for a fact a sizaeable portion of the TPs are evangelical. Yet you focus on this phony Obama voter. The agenda is clear to create a rift among the TP. And it’s a really pathetic attempt.
    Politico sadly is taken seriously by very few anymore. And your articles least of all. I’m an evangelical. Why didn’t you interview me? The only thing worse than leftist blue staters are angry leftists in red states. It’s like the angry emo teenage son. I have witnessed no name-calling or vulgarities at tea parties. And I have yet to meet an evangelical who won’t oppose Obama on the grounds that he is also opposed by secularists. Give me a break. Laughable.

  • ATV

    It’s important to remember that Cizik was basically kicked out of the National Association of Evangelicals for his dissent from evangelicals on gay marriage, the environment, abortion, and just about every other social issue they care about. He’s not representative of evangelicals. What he means is that *his kind* of evangelicals (by which he means the relatively small number of liberal, statist evangelicals) are scared of the tea party movement.

  • crypticguise

    Politico is just an Obama *sskisser and that blog is rarely concerned with truth or analysis.

  • Anita

    Gateway, Insta & Red State beat Politico any day & their lies exposed!

  • Gunga

    I know several young evangelicals who voted for the big 0. They mostly did it out of ignorance and youthful naïveté. I don’t know a single one who doesn’t regret it at this point.

    Hey Politico! Evangelicals AND Tea Partiers agree that limited government is preferential to whatever it is to which we are currently on the path.

  • Militant Conservative

    Yawn, no news here. Politico biased and crappy reporting? That’s why they are dying.

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  • http://www.chipbennett.net/ Chip Bennett

    Wait, let’s parse.

    From Jim’s linked CT article (which, by the way, is about Cizik resigning his NAE leadership position because his views had become inconsistent with the evangelical mainstream):

    “For better or for worse, Rich became a great, polarizing figure,” said Charles Colson of Prison Fellowship. “He was gradually, over a period of time, separating himself from the mainstream of evangelical belief and conviction. So I’m not surprised. I’m sorry for him, but I’m not disappointed for the evangelical movement.”

    This Cizik character:
    – Supports Obama
    – Supports Global Warming
    – Supports same-sex unions
    – Supports government-supplied contraceptives
    – Intimated support for pro-abortion candidates

    And it was for these reasons that dozens of actual evangelical leaders called for his resignation.

    Yet Politico calls him a “[leader] of the old conservative grass roots, the evangelical Christian right”, and characterizes him thus [emphasis added]:

    Richard Cizik, who broke with a major evangelical group over his support for government action on climate change, but who remains largely in line with the Christian right on social issues.

    So, the actual leaders of the amorphous evangelical Christian right rejected Cizik’s social views, and called for (and eventaully won) Cizik’s resignation as a leader of and spokesperson for the NAE – and yet he is the one NAE-connected person polled by Politico for the article.

    Further, the only example of “uncivility” in the Tea Party movement is the “Obama Joker” image – which was not even created by a Tea Partier!

    I’ll take such an article seriously just as soon as the author points out where he got his panties in a wad regarding the blatant and incessant vitriol targeted at President Bush.

  • Ladue Pundit

    How “civilized” is jabbing scissors into a baby’s head and sucking out its brains?

    As for uncivilized behavior at town halls and tea parties, it has been universally displayed by leftists, many of whom were paid and transported to the events by their masters.

  • wanumba

    Reads like a Soviet PRAVDA piece.

    What a howler, “split from evangelicals on his support for climate change …”

    WHO do they imagine they are talking to?

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  • hrh

    I’m a conservative evangelical and I’m a district organizer for Tea Party Patriots.

    Politico continues to accurately reflect the DC/Media cluelessness about what happens outside their secular liberal bubble.

    Which is very small BTW. But I guess when you’re inside it looking out, it encompasses your whole world…

  • http://www.assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com Assistant Village Idiot

    So he calls his opponents irreligious, but it is they who are uncivl name-callers. Having been on both the evangelical left and the evangelical right (I call myself “postliberal” at this point), I find this very typical of the left in general, including, sadly, the religious left. They do not perceive they are being insulting because it is against acceptable targets, and in a condescending (even sneering) rather than blunt style. That is more acceptable to their tribe for social reasons. And they are all about social. Younger evangelicals are “turned off,” by the style of Tea Partiers – Cizik gets that right – but it is not about civility but the uncoolness with which criticism is delivered. Cizik does not perceive this because he remains locked in the same adolescent prison.

  • down with dems

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  • Militant Conservative

    down with dems
    March 12th, 2010 | 10:23 am | #17

    It’s all about creating massive databases to watch and control the public. States are already putting chips in your drivers license. (disable with hammer or microwave oven) Orwells 1984 is here and the technology and the socialist leader too boot. Google your own name and see how much is out there on YOU.

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  • jomojava

    The Politico, like much of the media, cannot properly describe what they don’t understand – Evangelical Christianity.

  • Lily

    It seems there is a split in the Christian community between people who believe that charity and care is a command from God for the Individual – and those who believe we should use government to achieve ‘social justice’ goals.

    I say you get no points in heaven for voting to have Big Government take money from other people to support the poor. God will ask, “Yes, but what did YOU do for the poor”?

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  • Major Kong

    Classic divide and conquer strategy.

  • Pat the First

    As an evangelical, I can tell you that there is not one true evangelical who would support civil unions. Not one. There is not one true evangelical who would support handing out contraception before abstinence. Most evangelicals would agree that we must treat our world as a gift from God, but not at the expense of God’s greatest creation, people.

    If Colson is not sad to see Cizik gone, I am not either. Not knowing everything behind the scenes, I would trust Colson.

    It is true that evangelicals look at birth control differently than Catholics. But all true evangelicals are strident anti-abortion.

    I know a couple who voted for B.O., and they are adamently anti-abortion. I really don’t understand their vote except that they are union people.

    About the Tea Party, there are things that concern me. But, I would still support them unless they start splitting the Republican Party. That is when they will lose my support.

    My bottomline is . . . B.O., Reid and Pelosi have to go. I am willing to compromise to get that done.

  • templar knight

    The only people who believe anything Politico says are liberals, so this is more a story about poor sourcing and reporting than about the tea party movement and evangelicals.

    I’ve been to 3 tea party functions over the past year, and I’ve ridden there with a group from my church every time I’ve gone. And my church is First Baptist, and is affliated with the BMAA. I guess that makes me an evangelical who is very comfortable with the tea party movement.

  • http://endtimestavern.com George Duncan

    I’d be classified as an Evangelical and my fears of the Tea Party movement come in at about No. 858. No. 857 is my fear of being locked in a room and forced to watch endless “Keeping up with the Kardashians” shows. (Which, admittedly, can cause panic.)

  • http://www.hackwilson.blogspot.com Hack

    They wouldn’t have been able to do the story otherwise! They had to use him because, evangelical or not, all true conservatives in this country are behind the The Tea Party.

    The Politico just moved up a little bit on my list of most hated news outlets.

    http://www.hackwilson.blogspot.com

  • http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com Blue Collar Todd

    Only Christian Kapos support President Obama and the Democrat’s Liberal agenda. Liberals hold Christianity and Christian values in contempt. It makes no sense for a Christian to align with someone who will ensure their status as a bigot, as a homophobe or as intolerant.

  • kate

    Fear. Us.

  • SteveCan

    Did you really expect anything less from ‘Politco’?

  • Chisum

    Scroll down and check out what the Girl Scouts of America are up to at the UN.

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  • templar knight

    “No. 857 is my fear of being locked in a room and forced to watch endless ‘Keeping up with the Kardashians’ shows.”

    That’s like in the top ten for me. You are one brave man, sir, and I salute you!

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  • Bertogem

    Unfortunately, lots of Evangelicals and other non-Christians voted for Obama, including about half the congregation I attended until 11/04/08, as well as nearly all African-American Christians. It makes zero sense that any Christian who follows the news would have voted for Obama, but many did. I suspect that most were of the younger generation and were (dare I say it?) deceived by the hypnotic “hope and change” mantra of the Chosen One. To these youngsters I say: “Jesus — good, Obama — bad. Repeat after me.”

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  • ice9

    This thread is a rhetorical gold mine.

    I:

    “For better or for worse, Rich became a great, polarizing figure,” said Charles Colson of Prison Fellowship. “He was gradually, over a period of time, separating himself from the mainstream of evangelical belief and conviction. So I’m not surprised. I’m sorry for him, but I’m not disappointed for the evangelical movement.”

    Wow, must be annoying for this gentleman Colson to share his name with a man convicted of felonies in the service of a massive pattern of corruption in the nation’s highest offices. Mr. Cizik should be ashamed of himself for failing to live up to the standard set by Charles (not that one) Colson.

    II:

    “It is true that evangelicals look at birth control differently than Catholics. But all true evangelicals are strident anti-abortion.”

    Not since Thomas Aquinas and John Calvin contributed so ably to the Enlightenment* has there been a more precise example of the “No True Scotsman” fallacy–and it’s for real! This thread is a gold mine.

    *http://tfninsider.org/2010/03/11/blogging-the-social-studies-debate-iv/

    III:
    “The younger Evangelicals who I interact with are largely turned off by the tea party movement — by the incivility, the name-calling, the pathos of politics.”

    So who is Richard Cizik?
    …He’s an Obama supporter.

    Are the tea party people incivil? Do they name call? Do they reduce politics to pathos?

    NO! Why?

    Because Cizik voted for Obama.

    Gold.

    IV:

    “Jesus — good, Obama — bad. Repeat after me.”

    (I’d suggest “Jesus–good. Obama–bad.” But I try to avoid false dichotomies, since they both fail to establish anything and, by contrast, highlight the poverty of the argument.)

    V.
    “Liberals hold Christianity and Christian values in contempt. It makes no sense for a Christian to align with someone who will ensure their status as a bigot, as a homophobe or as intolerant.”

    It took figure skaters thirty years to stick the quad toe-loop. But this teabag stuck the quad question-beg in only little over a year. Gold. With an Arg Ad Hitlerium tossed blithely in, and extra points for the irony of the fact that the Kapos were not always jews and were nearly always convicted felons, such as Charles Colson. …and the inmates were often…Communists! Gays! Leftists! Journalists! That’s not just analogy-fail…that’s gold.

    Although the dizzying incoherence of the proposition may provide a defense. Does voting for Obama make someone guilty of homophobia by association, or does it make someone’s homophobia into a guilty association, or does it give homophobia a bad name, or….

    Gold. Just gold.

    VI:

    This comment, from an otherwise fairly coherent post that aims at (of all things) sourcing:

    “I guess that makes me an evangelical who is very comfortable with the tea party movement.” I guess it does, there…what was your name again?

    Knight Templar?

    ok, uh, never mind. Gold mine is down that hole to your left.

    ice9

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  • http://www.chipbennett.net/ Chip Bennett

    @ice9:

    You start your tirade with ad hominem toward Chuck Colson, and then expect anything else you have to say – including your attempts at parsing the alleged logical fallacies of other commenters – seriously?

    Wow, talk about logical fallacy FAIL.

    You see, two of the primary tenets of Christianity are repentance and forgiveness. Charles Colson served his punishment, and then turned his life around.

    Colson is (rightly) assessing Cizik’s stated views on various social issues, and primarily the movement of those views away from mainstream evangelical views. Thus, Colson’s prior offenses are not germane in criticizing his statements regarding Cizik.

    You also fail on the True Scotsman claim. Evangelical Christians have readily identifiable (and minimally disputable) views on certain religious and social matters. One of the least-disputed of those views is the pro-life stance. That stance is supported by a similarly undisputed stance of the infallibility of Scripture. Evangelicals believe that the Bible is infallible, that it teaches that all human life is sacred, and that it teaches that life begins in the womb. Thus, the anti-abortion stance of Evangelicals is a natural progression of these beliefs.

    The True Scotsman claim is thus specious.

    Moving on:

    The point of the Politico article is that Evangelicals are uncomfortable with the Tea Party movement, due to the alleged uncivility of that movement. The underlying contention of Jim’s post (and of the commenters here) is that Politico’s premise is not well-supported, because of the person chosen to represent evangelicals.

    In fact, this contention is quite valid, as Cizik does not, in fact, represent the viewpoint, opinions, or beliefs of mainstream evangelicals.

    So, the point is not that the Tea Party movement is or is not “uncivil”, but that Politico is attempting to portray evangelicals as holding the belief that the Tea Party movement is uncivil, by quoting someone who does not represent evangelicals.

    If you fail so thoroughly to grasp these points, then I see no point in addressing any of the rest of your tirade.

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  • bg

    ++

    “I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”

    [At a Greenville, South Carolina church yesterday, Barack Obama spoke those words to congregants at Redemption World Outreach Center.

    [..]

    Secondly, and most importantly, this “Kingdom of Heaven on earth” garbage is coming at us from all quarters right now, but most obviously from the political left (we on the right are too busy thinking about how we can starve your children, tap your telephone, and kill innocent black people in other countries, you know) and, not surprisingly, from the church itself.

    According to Michigan’s own Rob Bell,

    Salvation is the entire universe being brought back into harmony with its maker. This has huge implications for how people present the message of Jesus. Yes, Jesus can come into our hearts. But we can join a movement that is as wide and as big as the universe itself. Rocks and trees and birds and swamps and ecosystems. God’s desire is to restore all of it.

    …For Jesus, the question wasn’t how do I get into Heaven?, but how do I bring heaven here?… The goal isn’t escaping this world but making this world the kind of place God can come to. And God is remaking us into the kind of people who can do this kind of work.”

    There is so much sadly and heartbreakingly wrong with this statement it would take a rather lengthy essay to discuss it, so I’ll stick to the topic at hand: bringing God’s Kingdom here to planet earth.]

    “my individual salvation is not gonna come about
    without a collective salvation for the country” …

    Beware the new axis of evangelicals and Islamists

    President Obama to deliver Notre Dame’s Commencement address

    “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”~ MuBarack Hussein Obama

    ==

  • ice9

    Thanks, Chip. I always wondered if it was an ad hom if the target of the criticism was what he was called and if it bore on the issue.

    Colson is a felon, convicted (and unrepentant, too, which puts him four commandments down). All of his good works in service of a deity (proof of existence still pending) do not allay that fact, though I would give Colson credit for improving lives of prisoners, to be balanced against damage to the constitution, but he’s not alone in that effort, so accomplices aplenty (in this zone) make a right.

    And if you will return to your basics, you will see that an ad hom is not necessarily an unsound argument–see Genesis or, if you are not a fan of fiction, Paradise Lost.

    Anyhow, it is still gold to see Charles Colson offered as the standard of rectitude and honesty against a fellow who never did anybody any harm (that’s Cizik)…then have Colson’s authority in the case validated by the fact that he’s committed no further felonies and has adhered to the ever-shifting code of Evangelical Haters’ conduct.

    Carry on with your amusing colloquy

    ice9

  • bg

    ++

    re: Cizik

    if it talks like an a$$, it’s an a$$..

    ==

  • http://www.chipbennett.net/ Chip Bennett

    @ice9

    As you can’t seem to stay on topic (Politico using a self-described evangelical who disagrees with mainstream evangelical beliefs in order to argue that evangelicals, as a group, are uneasy regarding the Tea Party movement), I see no need to engage any of your non sequitur attempts to goad.

    Good day, sir. Enjoy Pi day.

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