Dueling Bill O'Reillys: He Was For Gun Rights Before He Was Against Gun Rights (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:43 AM
Dueling Bill O’Reillys
Bill O’Reilly was for gun rights before he invited Oathkeeper Stewart Rhodes, a Yale educated Constitutional Attorney, on his show to discuss the Second Amendment and then he was against gun rights.
Pinhead or Patriot?
Your call….
Brilliant.
Bill O’Reilly owes Stewart Rhodes and his audience an apology or at least an explanation.
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Bill O’Reilly Supports Gun Confiscation During Weather Emergencies (Video)
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Cargosquid commented:
Pinhead.
Brad commented:
Who cares what the bloviater says…..
L.Mills commented:
I watch Fox exclusively….but quit watching O’Reilly months ago! He is a true bloviater! I think he is a closet liberal and full of himself. O’Reilly and Shep Smith should team up since they are of the same mindset.
Auntie Em commented:
Bill O is King Pinhead.
bill-tb commented:
Bill ORielly often goes in loops … I don’t think he has ever seen a real gun, much less used it. It’s what happens to people when you drag around a couple of body guards as you pass by the ‘little people’.
In Florida, hurricane country, the state warns people there may be no services, water, food, police, fire or rescue for at least 3 days after a hurricane. The first thing you put in your bug out bag is the gun, the second thing is the ammo …
AuntieMadder commented:
O’Reilly completed his lefturd conversion in under five years. That makes him a pinhead.
JJAYNED commented:
PINHEAD. Bill O Reilly became unwatchable long ago. Only Shepherd Smith and Geraldo are worse. I have not watched O’Reilly since his Obama interview.
nadadhimmi commented:
Yep, Bill O’Reilly has definitely gone libtard. Maybe he did it “for the folks”, lol. He will very soon start to fall in the ratings, and he will get even more crazy and just re-enforce the spiraling process. He’s starting to remind me of Charles Johnson over at Little Green Footballs. a complete 180 indicates crazyness.
Ginger commented:
PINHEAD…PINHEAD…PINHEAD
Has anyone notice that O’Reilly has long ago stopped defending sexually abused children from perverts and their judges?
Please correct me if I am wrong because I hardly ever watch him any more.
Linda commented:
In 2005, Bill O’Reilly was trying to attract conservative viewers. In 2010, he’s trying to attract liberal viewers. He’s a fence-straddler; he can fall on either side of an issue.
RedBeard commented:
I agree with others, in that O’Reilly is a bit of an unbalanced nut, with no firm grounding in principle. Add to that his supreme arrogance, the sort that kept him from even offering a real apology for his horrid Malmedy gaffe, and the picture is not pretty.
Dan commented:
I don’t think he’s on the Left. I think he chooses certain topics to stake out left-of-center positions on in order to promote himself as centrist.
neomom commented:
I am an Oathkeeper and I thought O’reilly treated Mr. Rhodes with no less respect than he treats anyone else. I saw this as it happened and I was in shock. I could not beleive that anyone would want a disarmed populace during a natural disaster. He also does not believe in the Constitution. He said so, it was a clear opinion spoken by a progressive. That’s what he is, a progressive. He is a cell in the cancer. Mr. O’Reilly’s program was banned from my household.
Zombie Eats You commented:
Bill’s argument was flawed in that he argued that, with the collapse of law and order in New Orleans, it was right for the governent to confiscate the guns. His error was that this is *exactly* the time that people needed the ability to defend themselves.
pamlinson commented:
O’Reilly’s best days are behind him. Beck deserves his time slot. I’m tired of his appeasment of the left, and the constant talking over people that are trying to have a conversation with him. He’s not having a conversation with anyone but himself, he dosen’t need a guest. He’s an old bag o wind who has outlived his relevence.
Mr.K commented:
Bill O’Reilly is a progressive? You’ve got to be kidding me. What Mr. O said was idiotic at the least, but to call him a progressive, which he is not….is just insulting to the fine folks at Fox News, you, neomom, are a pinhead.
AuntieMadder commented:
Ginger
March 4th, 2010 | 7:36 am | #11
Ginger, O’Reilly’s still publicly calling out judges who protect child molesters. Along those same lines, just last week he made public a law in Iowa that makes it okay for minors to strip on stage as long as it’s in a theatre, and how that law was used to protect a strip club in which an adult woman coached a girl (12 or 13 years old, I think) to undress in front of an audience. But so what? MSNBC, the lunatic lefturd of the lamestream media, still produces the “To Catch a Predator” series. Protecting kids from child molesters is a pretty safe stand to take, whether you’re pandering to the left, right or center. (NAMBLA, Jenkins, and the rest of the organized pedophile homos are way off-the-chart left, and contrary to what they’d have you believe or what you may wish to believe, they don’t speak for the homosexual population of the US. At least, the ‘mos I know say they’re a bunch of pervs who don’t speak for them and they wish they’d just stfu or, preferably, shut up and die, as that would make kids a little safer.)
rider commented:
make bill go away…
as to Mr. Rhodes and the Oath-Keepers—they have-been favorites for awhile…
C
Patti commented:
Huh ? So, who will be those who are slogging through extreme weather to knock on doors and confiscate weapons ?
During Katrina-like conditions ? Through blizzards and ice-storms?
Sorry, but this argument is fairly silly.
AuntieMadder commented:
Mr.K
March 4th, 2010 | 8:09 am | #18
Neomom is not a pinhead. O’Reilly may not be a progressive but he’s certainly blurring the line by spouting progressive anti-gun talking points. Add that to his man-crush on Obamao, and it’s easy to see how some people could end up thinking he’s a progressive.
You, Mr.K, are an @$$head.
Patti commented:
O’Reilly has succumbed to conceit. He is in love with the sound of his own rhetoric.
The most annoying aspect of this is that he won’t let anyone get a word in edgewise because he feels it is more important to be heard himself.
Unfortunately, it will end up eventually marginalizing the great success he has enjoyed.
Mike commented:
I have seen him let his guard down on occasion and show that he is a true conservative, but other times he simply tries to play to the other side because he has audience members from the left. I don’t get him on this gun issue because it seems so contradictory to his normal thought process. But there is no way he is a liberal. The thing that bothers me most about him, although he is one of my favourites on television is when he keeps repeating that Obama is an intelligent or bright or smart guy. That is the biggest lie that is repeated by the media. It’s as if people are afraid to challenge this often repeated line and say NO OBAMA IS NOT SMART. I mean, during the O’Rielly interview before the election in 2008, Obama stated that he would RAISE TAXES ON DIVIDENDS EVEN IF IT MEANT AN OVERALL REDUCTION IN REVENUE BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. HUH?! Anyone who would seek to raise taxes to even though the outcome would not bring in more revenue when revenue generation was their goal to begin with and then explain it that it’s the RIGHT THING TO DO has to be stupid beyond belief.
AuntieMadder commented:
neomom
March 4th, 2010 | 8:00 am | #15
…I thought O’reilly treated Mr. Rhodes with no less respect than he treats anyone else.
Maybe that was a typo, but I think he treated Rhodes with much less respect than he treats most guests. As I recall it, his first question to Rhodes was if the Oath Keepers really think that martial law will be declared. OK’s never made a statement that they anticipate martial law. Only that should it ever take place, military and law enforcement, present and former, should be prepared mentally, having already thought through the scenarios, what they expect from themselves, and, most importantly, remembering the oath(s) they took.
For O’Reilly to ask Rhodes if he really anticipates martial law is akin to asking a home insurance policy holder if he really anticipates his house burning down.
olm commented:
Bill O has tried so hard to stay in the middle he stands for nothing. (Except for his prottection of kids which is the only place where he is not a pinhead)
I thought he was disrespectful of the Oathkeeper and he was a huge pinhead in that interview. He was also a huge pinhead last night with Dick Morris and actually that liberal from Occidental too but more so with Morris.
I only watch him for his topics and guests, I am coming to find himself extremely annoying and pompous.
But to be honest, I can’t watch Hannity at all so Billy is a pinhead but at least I tune in.
avery commented:
Yesterday O”Reilly had Dick Morris on asking about the Health care bill then wouldn”t let him ans. kelp over talking him so you couldn” hear his ans.
Terry commented:
Double Pinhead. If it wasn’t for Dennis Miller, I wouldn’t watch him. Thank goodness Miller is only on once a week. I bet a dollar he has mirrors on each wall of his palace.
Bob commented:
Mike,
For the Left, raising revenue is not the only goal of taxation, maybe not even an important result for some taxes. They want high taxes on dividends as a leveling device and for punitive reasons, because they believe their own myth that only the “rich” collect dividends. Ditto the estate tax and capital gains taxes.
Some years ago the WSJ polled Democrat members of Congress on whether they would raise tax rates on the rich if it could be shown to result in less revenue. Most of them said they would.
Karen commented:
Pinhead.
I’ve always disliked O’Reilly because he’s such a blowhard and he never lets his guests speak. Also, he talks down to every woman I have seen on his show. It’s obvious he has a superiority complex of epic proportions.
However, when I watched that clip with him agreeing on the gun ban during snow storms!!!, my dislike for him kicked up a few notches. Basically I don’t watch him anymore.
Mark commented:
O’reilly is a fag.
Rich commented:
Linda I agree that He’s a fence-straddler and the only thing you get for binging one is a sharp stick up your butt!
Betsy Ross commented:
Pinhead….it’s especially annoying when oreilly wants things “simplified” for “the folks” as though we are too stupid to know what the heck is going on…
noislamocommie commented:
O’Really is workin hard for his Left-wing Patrician sponsors in Right-wing clothing.
They want the following out of mainstream politics:
eligibility-enforcer types
Oathkeepers,Constitution originalists,nullification-spouters & Truthers.
Glen Beck & o’really need to issue what topics Americans are allowed to discuss on Fox news weekly.
AMarineMom commented:
I can no longer listen to this man. He is over the top and full of himself. Three or times a week, I used to TiVo his show, but when I would sit down to watch, I could only handle a couple of minutes before I would hit the delete button. As of about two months ago, I stopped TiVoing him.
StrangernFiction commented:
Bill O is a culture warrior, except when he’s not, and that’s a lot.
Bunkerville commented:
He is starting to be more and more annoying– looks like the ATF is now taking out BB Guns– they claim they can be converted to Machine Guns. If he thinks this is just polite conversation, he is so wrong.
http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/atf-seizes-30-dangerous-bb-guns/
aprilnovember811 commented:
I quit watching O’Reilly, he is a slobbering excuse for white guilt. He is not watching out for the folks, he is enabling Obama.
Glockfixer commented:
I will agree that Mr. O’Reilly is full of himself, but I think most here miss the point of his show. It is not to put one ideology over another. I have watched him give both sides a grilling.
Has no one noticed how Bill disagrees with every guest he has? He tries to cut through spin by playing devil’s advocate. Don’t be like Progressives. Keep your mind open! Accept where you may have made a mistake, correct your self, and carry on.
You need to watch Bill to keep
up with the arguments comming from both sides of the isle. To shut someone off because you don’t agree with them is just like obamao!
Now stop it! Act better than them, because we are! And to be fair, when the right wins control of Congress, we should keep all the rules the same. Evidetally, the Dems think they Are fair.
olds-mo-william commented:
#28 Terry
Roger that.
Just A Grunt commented:
I wouldn’t be so quick to jump out defend Stewart Rhodes. He isn’t what he appears to be and the organization Oathkeepers is held in deep suspicion by many in the military community.
On the surface they seem like a God, guns and guts type organization, but a little scratching reveals them to be just another Ron Paul front group.
I will let everybody make up their own minds about this man and his organization.
GFFM commented:
I cannot believe that this blog actually cares what O’Reilly thinks–he is by no means an intelligent commentator and is frequently contradictory. He’s a phase that people go through when they wake up to the leftist ideology ruining the culture. Then they find a rational conservative balance and they grow out of him. SAme goes for Limbaugh and Beck especially.
Kevin commented:
O’Reilly = Ted Baxter
Art commented:
Definitely a pinhead, who has an ego the size of Jupiter.
Very annoying to watch, and so little to offer in the way of informed opinion, entertainment, or for that matter, anything other than self-aggrandized bloviation.
Nathan R. Jessup commented:
How about a push for O.T.P. (One Term President) bumper stickers? Great video:
http://the-raw-deal.com/2010/03/04/new-o-t-p-video-released/
Nathan R. Jessup
http://www.the-raw-deal.com
RedheadedTexan commented:
O’Reilly is, and always will be, a pinhead. He is not a conservative, but he attempts to play one on TV.
mrt commented:
JJAYNED March 4th, 2010 | 7:16 am | #8
“I have not watched O’Reilly since his Obama interview.”
And that’s the crux of it.
BOR was the ONLY Fox host granted an “interview” (if you can call lobbing softballs an interview) with the One.
And he’s hoping against hope, if he doesn’t offend, he’ll get another.
Sheila commented:
O’Reilly was a new phenomenon when FOX news was in its infancy – which was when I watched him. His overweening pride and arrogance long ago (circa 2004) rendered him unbearable. Hannity is just tiresome as the Republicans’ peppy cheerleader. Add in Geraldo and Shep Smith and one just must wonder, what has the Abomination so agitated? Glenn Beck provides more “breaking” news (and fewer tears) on his radio show, and I now get all my news from the web. As for Oath Keepers, go to their website and read exactly what they’re swearing to do (or not to do). I don’t get a Paultard whiff from it – more of a constitutional aroma in my opinion.
Joanne commented:
So how does taking the guns away from the good folks while the bad guys are going around looting at gun point help anybody. Maybe anyone looting at gun point should be shot on sight – that may put an end to it, and this would include allowing a good person with a gun to shoot anyone trying to loot their property or take their lives.
The countries who have had their guns taken from them are the same countries whose crime rates have now gone through the roof, so obviously, taking away peoples guns has the opposite effect on the security of the good people.
O’Reilly has lost his way.
Jayne on the left coast commented:
BOR is a Pinhead. Also a post turtle.
o\'really spin zone commented:
Billy O’really was for glo-bull warming before he was against it also. He even thinks you can’t read if you DON’T believe him and his leftist scam artists.
Bill O’Reilly: Global warming is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD39QY8ew3c
Far left Crank Bill O’Reilly Pushes Global Warming Junk Science
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmRRQxbQ1o
Opus #6 commented:
O’Reilly is really wrong on this one.
Lori commented:
I used to like watching Bill O’Reilly’s show but have noticed that he’s really been slipping over the past couple of years. Maybe he started believing his own press when his ratings went up but he either needs to replace his research team or he needs to starts doing his homework. He often comes across now as unprepared, ignorant of important and basic facts/details. He is now often over-matched intellectually by his guests and I now sometimes find myself feeling embarrassed for him as I watch his show.
Deanna commented:
O’Reilly doesn’t really care about the “folks.” He only cares about his own opinions and ratings. He loves to hear himself talk. I happened to catch his disgusting display with Dick Morris yesterday. He asked for Morris’s opinion and then interrupted him to say he was wrong. Morris was right but it made Obama look bad and O’Reilly couldn’t put up with that. He keeps saying he is Fair and Balanced but he doesn’t need to do that, he’s a pundit not a newsman. Ever since his soft ball interview with Obama and his allowing that idiot Dr. Lamont Hill on his show, he’s finally gone in the dumper. He uses Beck and others to prop up his show and the fact he’s up against an idiot like Olbermann keeps his ratings high.
Deanna commented:
Oh, and I read a comment some time ago that I thought was appropriate. Tim Russert wrote a book about his father, O’Reilly wrote a book about himself.
Dana White commented:
The O’Reilly formula is wearing very thin on me. The constant references to “the folks”, the ignorance and lack or preparation, the faux populism, high handing guests and shouting over people trying to have a discussion with him, the rudeness (calling people by their last name). I listen now in only very small doses.
BobSledd commented:
HE’S A MORON..
The people in Chile are forced to arm themselves with axes and pieces of wood with nails in them, to protect themselves from LOOTERS armed with GUNS…
Just like the folks in New Orleans…
A question…If you want to toss the 2nd Amendment on the rubish heap, what about the 1st? the 5th? 10th??
These are OUR RIGHTS under the Constitution.
zmdavid commented:
O’Reilly is just playing devil’s advocate. He believes it’s his responsibility to put up the best counter argument to his guest most of the time. When he has a pro 2nd amendment person on, he puts out his best argument for gun control. When he has a gun control guy on he does the opposite.
Nate255 commented:
O’Reilly is not aging well. He’s looks like a senile version of Ed Koch. He could also be the worlds first talking Choad.
Valerie commented:
If people were more clearly able to identify their underlying assumptions, a lot of the controversy over gun laws could be resolved.
For example, there are places in this country where it is simply unreasonable for a person to have a high-powered rifle (New York City, and large swaths of the northern east coast). People in those areas think that the populace is better off without guns.
There are places in this country where people at least remember hunting for food as a kid (Texas, Louisianna, flyover country) and where they do it now (Alaska). In those states, people tend to think that guns are more like tools.
Our national laws must strike a balance among people in all kinds of different circumstances. Those who think they have a right to tell everybody in the country how to order their lives deserve to get yelled at.
Nathan R. Jessup commented:
@ #52 Jayne On The West Coast
I like the post turtle ref. for anyone wondering:
http://the-raw-deal.com/2010/02/24/obamas-a-post-turtle-huh/
Nathan R. Jessup
http://www.the-raw-deal.com
Chris Vehr commented:
Used to watch O’Reilly, but no more. I didn’t change.
Logus commented:
I’ve said it before. I think the Big O is getting ready to retire and Glenn Beck is going to fill his time-slot. Beck’s star is still rising. O’Reilly’s has begun to decline and the writing was on the wall 5 years ago.
I foresee O’Reilly retiring before he suffers any major lapse in ratings. Better to go out a shining star in the media world than to fizzle forever like Larry King. And considering that FoxNews is about ratings and business, it makes smart business for Bill to hang it up before his track-record is marred by up-and-coming Beck whose ratings are often on par with O’Reilly’s. That’s enough right there to tell you all you need to know.
StrangernFiction commented:
Playing devil’s advocate is perhaps a proper way to describe the interviewing approach of a man that likes to pretend that someone like BO is not evil.
C-Christian Soldier commented:
For those of you who think that the Oath Keepers are ‘hidden terrorists’-go to their site-read the side bar and PLEASE–get a copy of the US CONSTITUTION and read it over and over til you get it!!!!
C-CS
glockfixer commented:
Valerie, our Constitutional rights are not predicated on where we live and what the people of that area think. They are absolute.
The right of the People to keep and bear arms is a Constitutional right that the majority can not do away with simply because they don’t agree with it. The same with the First, Third, and all of the rest.
Just because you don’t see a need for me to own a high power rifle in New York City does not mean that I don’t have a right to own one. What if I like to go hunting in upstate New York during the hunting season. Are you saying that I can’t have a rifle because I live in New York City? Is it unreasonable for me to have one for that purpose just because of where my domicile is?
You state that those people who “think they have a right to tell everybody in the country how to order their lives deserve to get yelled at”, and then you say that it is unreasonable for someone in certain areas of the Country to own a particular type of firearm. Isn’t that telling people in certain areas how they should order their lives in regards to firearms?
The fact of the matter is that we should defend the Second Amendment with the same fervor that we defend the others. Without the Second Amendment, there is no way to guarantee that we can defend the others.
“Reasonable gun control” does not exist except when the person holding the gun has the ability to hit their target accurately and repeatitively.
Colorado2993 commented:
Wow. This video proves absolutly nothing. All the quotes were completely out of context and too short to have any substantive meaning on their own. I guess some people have a knack for deceptive editing (referance to O’Keffe). I watch FOX now and then, and even though O’Reilly frustates me with how he refuses to admit he’s a Republican on camera even though it’s obvious, I respect how he isn’t afraid to have his own opinions. It seems to me that the problem with far right conservatives is that they want to (and do) enforce a culture of McCarthyistic conformity where no deviation from the establish doctrine is acceptable, and where even Bill O’Reilly is seen as an enemy as soon as he shows a little independance.
bg commented:
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Colorado2993 @ 12:19 am #71
while i understand the “out of context” thing, i have listened to many in context in vs clips posted here with clearly stated intent of subject matter pertaining to it, and have to say there’s really little difference as far as context goes in the end.. as for McCarthyistic conformity blah, blah, blah.. those stale “get in their face” ObamAlinsky tactics don’t work in here..
besides, “far right conservative” or not (that one
made me laugh btw), we’re proud of McCarthy..
you want “context”, here you go: what you wrote
says more about you than anyone else, go figure..
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Colorado2993 commented:
How can you be proud of a man who terrorized DC for years with lies and foundless claims? During a speech where McCarthy supposedly held a list of 201 communist sympathisers, he was actually holding a laundry list. I guess that if you’re proud of the man who bullied his way into power and ruined thousands of lives, than it’s no wonder that you would condem one of the most powerful Republican voices because he has a differing opinion from the GOP hard core leadership.
What McCarthy did was lie and intimidate his way into the public sympathy. He played on people’s fears to justify blacklisting and imprisoning thousands of people who he suspected had communist ties (although these ties usualy ended up being sympathy for Russia during WW2). He trampled on the first amendment and the constitution, something you’d think conservatives would look down on.
People throw around the word facism as a potical tool, but few really understand what it is. One apt definition is a political culture that mandates homogenous uniformity through threats and intimidation, and enforces it by discrediting and blacklisting anyone who stands up to the system. McCarthyism is the same as facism, and anyone who supports McCarthy’s reign of terror seems pretty un-American to me.
ps- Looking back, far right conservative was a bad choice of words. I just wanted a word stronger than “Conservative” or “Republican”, but not one loaded with venom like “Far-Right Nut Job Neo-Con.” I might be the closest thing to a liberal on this post, but I’m not going to stoop to the level of the Daily Kos.