It Has Begun… The Obama IRS Prepares for Tax Season – Purchases Guns
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, February 4, 2010, 7:40 AM
We should have seen this coming.
TheObama IRS needs your money – purchases guns.
FBO.gov reported, via Archer:
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.
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Cargosquid commented:
Please tell me again, why does the IRS need weapons AT ALL? Tax evaders are that violent? Hmm, who knew?
NC Cop commented:
“I’m from the government, and I’m here to help you.”
Henry Bowman commented:
They better buy a hell of a lot more than that.
Mike In VA commented:
Drug dealer tax evaders are not so co-operative
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CPT. Charles commented:
Hmmmmm.
14″ barrels?
Isn’t that under the legal limit [18"] for us proles?
Oh yeah, I forgot, they’re from the government and they’re here to help us.
Silly me.
Dante commented:
Damn! I didn’t understand on of the specs of the guns the IRS purchased.
I thought guns were a bad thing yet the gov’t is using them. Wha!
Saint commented:
Don’t worry Dante, Sta…errr, Hit, no no, OBAMA. Obama surely wouldn’t want an armed government with a disarmed population, right?
Longsps commented:
WTF? Has the world gone totally mad. Why is the federal govt paying any taxes on anything? If nothing else they have proven they are non-profit. So much so they wish to end all profit!
Militant Conservative commented:
Got Guns? Got lota of ammo. powder dry.
The slow sneak to a boiling point is getting closer.
Be armed and trained the Malitia may be needed.
mrt commented:
Looks like someone’s running scared
after that census worker in Kentucky
was found murdered by right-wing extremists
with ‘FED’ written across his chest.
Wait a minute………
Dell commented:
They’d better have about a two-year course on how to handle a sawed-off shotgun! The IRS wimps I’ve seen are in for one Helluva shock when they start cranking 12 ga.- OO Buck from a 14 inch barreled piece. That’s no toy shotgun!
1) Point barrel in general direction of target.
Wait two days for hearing to return.
2) Hang on with every ounce of strength you have.
3) Slap trigger with index finger.
4) Pick yourself up off the ground.
5) Retrieve index finger.
6) Operate slider to unload spent shell and load another round.
7) Apply ice bags to portion of body affected by massive recoil.
9) If necessary, repeat steps 1-8 above.
10) This time try not to flinch.
olm commented:
Why do they need guns?
I really want to know. Can someone please ask Gibbs at the next dog and pony show?
I’m serious.
NC Cop commented:
A friend of mine who works with the ATF said that the ATF’s budget has been increased to its largest ever and they have been approved to hire hundreds of new agents this year.
Now let’s see, ATF stands for Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Which of these three do you think they are going to come after with their huge budget and new agents?????
Hmmmmmmm……..
Mikentexas commented:
I understand that these will be used in only limited circumstances to go after the teax cheats in the Obama Administration.
Cargosquid commented:
NC Cop,
And THAT’S why you go buy your guns from private citizens……….no paper trail.
Agent 99 commented:
Correct me if I’m Wrong BUT this is the Remington TACTICAL 12 Guage but this is the 18 ” Inch Long Barrell. HERE http://www.impactguns.com/store/047700814001.html
seven commented:
Starting a patrol to go after people that don’t have insurance from the gubment
Opus #6 commented:
If the agents are scared, shouldn’t they just call for police backup?
Joanne commented:
The government is taking over!
Militant Conservative commented:
Paper trail or no Cargosquid. When it comes to house to house for compliance they will not ask for a paper trail. My spouse and I have decided if it comes to this we fight and die as free people not live as slaves. Isn’t it ironic that white men freed the black man and now a black man wishes to enslave us all. It’s all about control for WE are to stupid to understand the brilliance of government
Joanne commented:
Obama’s just making sure that no one thinks that they can refuse to pay ‘his’ taxes….just in case some people think they can.
Cargosquid commented:
Unless I’m the first house they search, they won’t find my firearms IN my house…..
Cargosquid commented:
But, then again,
“If its time to bury them, its time to dig them up.”
TurkeyLurkey commented:
So, is there a corresponding purchase of Ammo for these bad boys?
It’s not the guns that are the message.
The message is what comes out of the barrel.
OK< Yeah, one never knows what's sitting in the breech when staring down the barrel. I acknowledge that intimidation is its own message.
That's not my point here.
OK, short-barrel anti-personnel weapons are worrisome.
But are they ordering 'non-lethal' loads?
RR
Kenny Solomon commented:
Nice piece….. Reminds me that I need to get a new sling for mine.
Agents getting issued this are either already qualified on a firearm of it’s type, or being upgraded to qualify.
Cheers !
KLS
archer52 commented:
To RR:
No, they’ll be shooting real bullets. Years ago, back in the late nineties one of our detectives went to work for them. Back then, he was the only police officer with any police training in the section he was working in. The agents went to do a raid (rare back then) and they handed him the single shotgun they had. He was surprised and that was when they admitted they didn’t know HOW to do a breach or an entry.
Times change. Many former local and state officers went federal along with some veterans of the wars. They aren’t foolish, untrained or weakly. If they come, they will come with overwhelming firepower. The question still remains, with all the federal special units geared up for this, why the IRS?
Here is the wiki link to what the C.I.D. unit does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_Criminal_Investigation_Division
Remember there are more government employees and special units than ever before. Most will do what they are told and will use “I was only following orders” excuse when things go wrong. As we have seen lately with the Christmas bomber,apparently this administration cannot actually pin down who is issuing those orders.
I have said many times before we are not immune to the same threats other nations faced just because we are Americans. The difference is because we are Americans. How we react is the key. What was it that Patrick Henry said?
“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! “
wanumba commented:
The IRS has no business procuring arms. Law enforcement agencies already exist, using procedures with quaint mechanisms like “warrants.”
Gonna have chaos in law enforcement with overlapping and conflicting mandates and massive public confusion.
Oh, an Alinsky tactic.
newton commented:
I think they’re expecting someone like David Koresh to arrive to the scene soon… Tea Party tax-evader preferred…
You all know what this means.
TiminPhx commented:
There is nothing wrong with Federal Agents, who already are allowed to carry handguns, having access to a shotgun.
As a former police officer and trainer, our view on it was that the handgun was what you used to get back to your unit to get the shotgun.
Conservatives shouldn’t start viewing every Federal Agent as our enemy.
The IRS Cops deal with some really strange folks and some who are at the edge mentally. They having some firepower, so they can go home at the end of the shift isn’t a bad thing at all.
Solaratov commented:
Agent 99
February 4th, 2010 | 8:52 am | #17
Correct me if I’m Wrong BUT this is the Remington TACTICAL 12 Guage but this is the 18 ” Inch Long Barrell. HERE http://www.impactguns.com/store/047700814001.html
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The 14″ is classified as an “entry” weapon. With the short barrell, it’s more maneuverable going through the door into a hostile environment and easier to handle in confined spaces (hallways, tec.)
Anyone can own one. All it takes is a $200 tax stamp and ATF permission after an investigation.
They’re handy little guns, but limited in their application and usefulness.
azlibertarian commented:
TiminPhx
“There is nothing wrong with Federal Agents, who already are allowed to carry handguns, having access to a shotgun….”
Well, there’s your problem right there.
Why does the IRS (or for that matter, the Dept. of Agriculture, or the FDIC, or the EPA, or a host of others) have any armed employees?
I run across armed federal employees all the time in my professional life (airline pilot). You simply would not believe which agencies have armed employees (and I’m not at all implying that all employees of these agencies are armed.).
But what grates me is that there are far too many regulatory agencies–like the IRS–which have evolved into law enforcement agencies. This isn’t new, but it is a very bad sign for our future.
“…Conservatives shouldn’t start viewing every Federal Agent as our enemy.
The IRS Cops deal with some really strange folks and some who are at the edge mentally. They having some firepower, so they can go home at the end of the shift isn’t a bad thing at all.”
Fine. My first question is why does the IRS have “cops” at all? Next, is it really out of line to wonder if some folks are so upset at a federal agency that they might begin shooting at their employees, are we ever able to question the scope of these fed.gov agencies? Yes–some folks are prone to violence at the least provocation, but sometimes the regulations being enforced at gunpoint ought to be examined too.
But if the IRS does hypothetically have to “deal with some really strange folks”, then what’s wrong with calling their local Federal Marshal’s office or other fed.gov law enforcement agency to act as their muscle?
Solaratov commented:
azlibertarian
February 4th, 2010 | 2:41 pm | #32
It’s a matter of “turf”. The IRS did used to call the marshalls to serve their warrants and do their confiscations. Then, one director or another found a loophole which allowed accountants to carry guns – and that was all it took.
Almost every department has an armed group, for one reason or another. Commerce, energy, state, epa. It wouldn’t surprise me to find that the dept. of education has their own swat teams.
It’s simply a matter of expanding turf and getting more prestige — on the taxpayers’ dime.
JustaGuy commented:
This foaming at the mouth isn’t doing anyone any good.
There are IRS agents in the criminal division that have long carried their gold badges and guns. It’s been that way for decades.
If you saw what crap those agents have to deal with from criminals, you’d be supporting them.
It’s tiring enough dealing with the lies from Libs. But to hear the crap spewed by some of you on this topic is really pathetic.
Grow up and realize that maybe, just maybe, you don’t really understand what IRS Agents working in the criminal division have to deal with. And then maybe quit yappin with your yapper head.
Overall, the responses here are sickening.
Sequoia commented:
Everyone hear that? Yurrr makin’ Justaguy sick…Yappin with your Yapperheads…HE knows what those poor, beleagured, IRS agents go through. Those Pooor agents who earn their 70++K a year CONFISCATING our hard earned money…HARRRRRR!! The nerve of you lousy yapper-heads. Quit yer Yappin’!! It’s the government’s money…You Yapperheads just haven’t coughed it up yet…you jus’ need a little MORE persuadin’, and a lot LESS YAPPIN”!!
Sequoia commented:
Hey, Justaguy,
Do you moonlight for Mary (Shut yer mouth!) Landrieu?
raybojabo commented:
Repeal the income tax, convert to the fair tax, abolish the IRS. Take these control freaks new guns away and let them stand in the unemployment lines with the rest of us.
archer52 commented:
TiminPhx is correct in the sense that law enforcement officers should be able to protect themselves. However, we are talking about collecting taxes, not stopping serial killers. Sure there are a few nut jobs out there and the agents should be able to call in the proper units to handle them. I found out that after 9-11 all federal agencies were required to create “anti-terrorism” units. Perhaps that morphed into a SWAT/tactical team. However, take the time to read my post
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/02/04/updating-the-irs-shotgun-issue-boy-are-people-pissed/
You’ll find I spent twenty years watching the “hut hut” team (swat guys) run around getting all kinds of new “toys” to play with. Heck, our City ended up with two .50 cal. Barretts, even though we didn’t need them, and an armored car we got cheap from some military sale, also something we never needed. Then there was the mobile command RV that cost a couple of million (a hundred thousand for the cool full body decal) which the deputy chief rides around in, again something we never needed. (It was designed to replace our comm center if a hurricane destroyed it. Our comm center is designed to withstand category 5 hurricanes, so… . We ended up using it at crime scenes, again for no reason except to justify the expenditure.
My point is this, boys like toys and once in their possession will tend to play with them. Trouble is, like at Waco and Ruby Ridge (among other incidents) people got hurt and killed- on both sides. And for what exactly? Trumped up charges of child abuse, a nutty preacher and a man set up by the ATF because he refused to be a CI?
If the feds didn’t have all that firepower, they would have to find other ways to handle confrontations. And that’s the point. How did we get to the place where tax collectors are gathering offensive weapons? And people are daring them to try and use them?
Nothing good will come out of this. But I am afraid the feds are looking for that one example they can exploit to frighten the rest of us. I wrote about this in my upcoming book- http://www.revoltthebook.com I wrote the original manuscript back in 1997. Back then people who read it laughed saying no way it would happen here.
They aren’t laughing now.