Sarah Palin was right. The man won’t listen.
Barack Obama told reporters yesterday that he still has not ruled out a New York City trial for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
The rest of the country has moved on… Not Obama.
FOX News reported:
President Barack Obama said Sunday he has not ruled out a New York federal court trial for Sept. 11 planner Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, but he was taking into account the objections of the city’s mayor and police commissioner.
The Obama administration has come under withering attack, mainly from Republicans, for a decision by his Justice Department to try the terrorist mastermind in a U.S. court near Ground Zero, site of the attack that destroyed New York’s World Trade Center.
Obama said using the traditional judicial method was a “virtue of our system” in which Americans should take pride.
He also defended his decision, noting again that the administration of former President George W. Bush had handled terror suspects arrested in the United States in the same way.
“They prosecuted 190 folks in these Article III courts, got convictions and those folks are in maximum security prisons right now. And there have been no escapes,” Obama said. “And it is a virtue of our system we should be proud of.”
Later Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., responded: “Based on the security, logistical and cost concerns raised by the mayor and the police commissioner, it is not feasible to have the trials in New York. The administration should realize that and move on.”
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Published May 23, 2012 at 11:51 pm - 69 Comments
sliderblaze commented:
no fundn fo u!!!
Peoples Front of Judea commented:
When Chuck Schumer sounds reasonable…
Chisum commented:
Doubling down on stupid!
Just_Saying commented:
Obummer is obtuse!
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jerryl commented:
no this clown dont listen no one wants the trial in nyc he dont care no one wants natl heath care he dont care he dont listen to americans makes you wonder who actually controls this traitor
Tyrconnell commented:
190 down from 300, do I hear 150! 150! who’ll give me 150!
release the names and accusations, personally I have the feeling we would find a number of ALF/ELF or Eric Rudolph types.
congress interruptus commented:
…I thought he said it was all up to Holder….
Agent 99 commented:
SliderBlaze! No Fundn 4 U ….For BHO! Gotcha! ONE ….BHO is lying (Senator Kyl (R) ) has requested Proof of those “”"FOLK”" as BO calls them…who are in US Prisons and is Still awaiting for his reply!! btw ..I’m waiting for Proof that Bush has that # tried and in US Prisons. TWO …WHY give up GITMO??? I had ”heard” Seriously ”heard” that BO wanted some of the Original Masterminds ((“”fOLK”")) as BO calls them..held in D.C. lol!! Betcha D.C. insiders nixed that one ASAP!! BO does NOT give a frigging hoot about our Legal System or US either. Time to Impeach!!
bill-tb commented:
You need to play some more rev Wright tapes, refresh your memory … Stick it too America.
WRJonas commented:
What is he saying? I thought this was all Eric Holders idea? Was that just fabricated nonsense for his MSM campaigners ?
Male Silverback commented:
The whole issue is about embarrassing America, plain and simple. He is doing everything he can to subjugate us to the world.
Agent 99 commented:
# 7 @ 8:04 a.m. Precisely!! Was it just last WEEK the # was “”300 or more” of those “FOLK” ?? Barry calling Terrorists “FOLK” burns my buns!! ((In the article itself via BO’s quote is that word “FOLKs” )) What’s Dat ’bout??
Karl Magnus commented:
Barry Oh? aint gonna píss off those Nueva Yorkers and sacrifice all those votes.
Talk about tainting the jury pool!
~(Ä)~
Opus #6 commented:
Obama really doesn’t quit. Good thing the rest of the Democrats are smarter than he is.
Agent 99 commented:
I’m betting that the Baptist Missionaries in Haiti wish THEY had the same ”Rights” as KSM. What Irony. SOooo …to showcase our Judicial/Legal System is # ONE PRIORITY for WHOM??? Not mine nor likely Yours! Think I’d Rather live a little longer. We Will get hit then if not Sooner! Pray not …but R-E-A-L-I-T-Y BITES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Conservative Girl commented:
The alternatives are not much better. I took photos of the courthouse in Virginia.
I don’t know what this man is thinking.
http:912member.blogspot.com
mrt commented:
Male Silverback
February 8th, 2010 | 8:11 am | #12
“The whole issue is about embarrassing America, plain and simple. He is doing everything he can to subjugate us to the world.”
Not only that, it’s also an attempt to go after members Bush administration for alleged “war crimes”. And to further this move to appease his far-left base, don’t forget his December 16th Executive Order granting Interpol ‘diplomatic immunity’ here in the U.S. in their pursuit of international criminals, including “war criminals”.
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2009/12/23/obama-executive-order-interpol/
How else do you explain the fact Obama, Gibbs, and the rest have all said, on the record, no matter what, KSM WILL be convicted, he WILL be detained and never let out, he WILL “meet his maker”. This is as political a move as has ever been made.
And for those on the left parroting the “you don’t trust our justice system” meme, I have one thing to say to you.
O.J. Simpson.
Tom63010 commented:
The entire country has heard these idiots state that KSM will be tried here and found guilty. If they can find a jury pool that hasn’t been tainted by Gibbs and even Obama declare him no only guilty but that he will be executed!
Rush Limbaugh points this out that this rhetoric is tantamount to jury tampering. Here is what he said about Gibbs making statements like this:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020110/content/01125110.guest.html
Sweetness & Light discussed a similar statement by Obama:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-says-ksm-will-be-convicted
exceller commented:
If Obamas strategy is to tear the country apart he’s doing a great job. He never finishes anything, he starts up something divisive and then keep it swirling around and around our heads in order to confuse and disorient the country. His damaging agenda keeps poping up and scaring the crap out of people. Just when you think one issue might be tamped down, he resurrects another one. the Gitmo issue, the KSM trial, his healthcare takeover, his energy grab, he handles each one of them in a careless thoughtless manner as if the intent where to offend the greatest number of people. When people rise up to oppose any aspect of it he or his cohorts make sure to charactrize them as racist hatemongers. America’s sworn enemies could not do as much harm.
JPL17 commented:
He never finishes anything, he starts up something divisive and then keep it swirling around and around our heads in order to confuse and disorient the country.
I call it “Vampire Politics.” No matter how many times we kill Obama’s idiotic policies, or Obama declares them dead, they never stay dead.
Auntie Em commented:
The jury will be made up of Islamic sympathizers.
Obama and Co. are committing High Treason!
Patricia commented:
You would think that with ears that big, HE could actually hear the American people. HE always said HE was “sensitive” about the size of his ears, now we know why……HE can’t/won’t hear!
Corporal Vere commented:
He can’t help himself.
He spent his whole life handing in school work and tests, and getting A’s for D work.
bg commented:
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U.S. torn over whether some Muslims pose threat or offer insight
[ But Safi has called the widespread raids on Muslim organizations after 9/11 "a campaign against Islam" – a term that 9/11 Commission director Philip Zelikow says is part of "the jihadi narrative."
Safi has also complained that Muslims are treated differently from Christians and Jews when they do wrong. They are unfairly identified by and questioned about their religion, he says, treatment that can lead to isolation and aggression.
"The extremist ideology responsible for violent outbursts is often rooted
in the systematic demonization of marginalized groups," Safi said in an Internet posting after the Fort Hood shooting.
Some view Safi's rhetoric as incendiary.
Zuhdi Jasser is a Navy veteran who founded the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and has spoken publicly about the dangers of politicizing Islam. He said Safi's "separatist mindset of the world against Muslims" is the "mindset that created Hasan."
Safi would not answer most questions from The News. But in a brief interview, he said the legal assaults on him and his associates even as Washington sought their advice represented the government's divided approach to Islam.
"There are those who are prejudiced and would like to deny Muslims their rightful place in this country," Safi said, "and there are people who are more open-minded. It's as simple as that."
Safi's case, however, is anything but simple. It illustrates not only the divisions in dealing with Islam but also the difficulty in knowing which
dots to connect.
"You have a schizophrenic government and a schizophrenic institution," Zelikow said, referring to ISNA. "The schizophrenia cuts right into how the government views the whole Fort Hood affair. We don't know whether to treat him [Hasan] as part of an international conspiracy or as a lone wolf who happened to have gotten solace from a radical imam.”]
what a coincidence, we just happen to have
B Hussein O, an IslaMarxist skitzo as CiC..
you think his health care plan is poison..
hah, “you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”
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down with dems commented:
I love the two-faced cake eating of the Obama administration. If Bush did it, it was horrible and is demonized… unless it supports something Obama wants to do, in which case it is used as precedent to support an unpopular Obama decision.
That Bush fellow sure is handy to have around.
Militant Conservative commented:
President is suffering from Malignant Narcissism and needs to be removed from office. TRAITOR
down with dems commented:
Oh and don’t forget what the mayor of Las Vegas said: “This president is a slow learner”
bg commented:
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re: bg @ 10:27 am #26
[Also in 2007, an expert on Islamist ideology working on contract for
the Pentagon repeatedly warned that the U.S. risked undermining its anti-extremist efforts by working with ISNA and similar organizations. "Despite a track record of self-serving denials with regard to extremism, ISNA continues to function as an important component of the Saudi/Muslim Brotherhood global network," analyst Stephen Coughlin wrote.
He named Safi as one example of the "numerous" connections between ISNA and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, the Virginia group raided in 2002, and he alleged that the institute was also a Muslim Brotherhood entity.
Coughlin's warnings created controversy in the Defense Department, and the analyst now works at a Washington think tank. He did not respond to requests for an interview.
High-level contacts with ISNA have continued under President Barack Obama. ISNA president Ingrid Mattson spoke at his inaugural prayer service in January. Valerie Jarrett, a senior Obama adviser, was a featured speaker in July at the group's national convention in Washington, which thousands attended.
"We share common values," Jarrett told the audience, and "we also share common dreams – for security, progress and opportunity."
One convention panelist was Warith-Deen Umar, a former prison chaplain with a history of extremist rhetoric. He advocated "more jihad," blamed Jews for the Holocaust and said Israelis "have control of the world."
Safi responded in a news release that condemned anti-Semitism, said nothing about the "jihad" remark and did not apologize for ISNA's invitation to Umar.
The speaker's proposal "described a completely different content than what reportedly transpired," Safi wrote. "The title of the speaker's presentation was 'Jews for Salaam [Peace],’ and the presentation was described as a ‘… blue print for world peace. Christians, Jews and Muslims have common roots; focuses on the unique position Jewish people are in to move the world toward peace.’ ”
Umar’s title is the same one he used for a 2008 book in which he traced Jews’ problems to their failure to convert when Islam emerged in Arabia more than 1,400 years ago.]
The Muslim Brotherhood “Project”
The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside
Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
The Islamic Infiltration, Part 2: From Influence to Insurrection
much more @ link & here..
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bg commented:
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He Won’t Listen…
and this is news to who??
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
Obama’s UN Resolution to Stifle Free Speech on Islam
Obama Resolves to Stifle Free Speech About Islam
Obama & Islamists are ONE way streets, they will be heard, the rest of US infidels must STFU & listen.. and that’s just the beginning of the story.. question is, how do we & the rest of the blinded by Obama world want it to end??
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bg commented:
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Failing at force protection: The misguided Pentagon report on the Ft. Hood massacre
[As a former lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy, I know the culture of the U.S. military. While I served my 11 years pre-9/11, the culture of political correctness was pervasive. This travesty of a report is front and center evidence of that paralyzing culture.
As a Naval physician and former chief resident at Bethesda Naval Hospital, I can also speak to the inadequacies in the counterterrorism, counter-radicalism and insurgency training of commanders like those being held to blame for Hasan’s promotion and movement up the chain of command. Studying theo-political internal threats is simply not part of the training of any military physician. Hasan’s superiors are medical professionals trained to evaluate his abilities as a physician and a psychiatrist. As we have all heard, his commanders were seriously concerned about his actions and the role his faith played in his everyday interactions with patients. Had they brought those concerns to his review process, they would have been vilified as Islamaphobes. Even had Hasan’s superiors appropriately identified his behaviors, a military discharge is light years down the path of administrative counseling and punishment he would have received. Which begs the question, would a demoted Hasan have been any less of a threat?
As a Muslim, I am most fearful that our entrenched mindset of victimization and political correctness is precluding a vitally necessary open discussion of faith-based issues both inside and outside of the military. The current military and governmental culture precluded Hasan’s superiors from questioning anything relating to his faith.
[..]
Yet the secretary has recommended Secretary of the Army John McHugh “take appropriate action” with regards to the report’s recommendations for “personnel responsible for supervising Major Hasan.” Those recommendations include career-ending reprimands for several of his superiors.
How can we hold these soldiers responsible for not preventing Hasan’s actions if we aren’t giving them the environment and the tools they need to confront Islamist radicalization? The military cannot allow the mantra of victimization of Muslims to dominate how it handles force protection. Islamist radicalization is real and it cannot be confronted unless we are honest about the threat it represents. Hasan is not the first soldier to be radicalized and he won’t be the last if we do not address the real issues.
I recently had a conversation with a friend who is a colonel in the U.S. Army and does quite a bit of force training. He had an interaction with one of the active-duty military imams, which concerned him, but because of political correctness he had nowhere to go with those concerns. So he bounced it off me.
[..]
ISNA glorified Imam Zaid Shakir’s response to the Fort Hood massacre as an example for their entire membership. As an American Muslim, I was frankly offended by his first paragraph demonstrating his and thus ISNA’s disdain for our military. Shakir opens his pathetic response by saying,
“There is no legitimate reason for their deaths, just as I firmly believe there is no legitimate reason for the deaths of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians who have perished as a result of those two conflicts. Even though I disagree with the continued prosecution of those wars, and even though I believe that the US war machine is the single greatest threat to world peace, I must commend the top military brass at Fort Hood, and President Obama for encouraging restraint and for refusing to attribute the crime allegedly perpetrated by Major Nidal Malik Hasan to Islam.”
[..]
It is ridiculous that our military would be “outsourcing” spiritual guidance for our force members. It is insane that they would utilize ISNA when they are part and parcel of the problem. ISNA’s roots are in the global project of the Muslim Brotherhood. They were listed as an unindicted coconspirator in the successful Holy Land Foundation terror financing trial of 2008. They refuse to recognize the separatist influence of Islamist ideology. The Imam’s use of ISNA is akin to the Trojans bringing the Greek’s horse inside the fortress. Our military should never farm such deeply essential counseling out.
[..]
The protection of our forces requires a better understanding of the enemy we face. An honest assessment of the Fort Hood massacre would not limit the scope of the review. It would also not allow the scapegoating of soldiers instead of fighting the root theo-political problems. Hasan’s victims deserve a full revision of how the United States military handles Islamist radicalization within its ranks. Without it we will see many more Nidal Hasans and in the end a weaker force and a weaker nation.]
same goes for, questions should be heard & answers given as to how the OA is handling Islamist radicalization not only within our own government, but the global jihad that Obama declared “over”..
nice try Barry, but we didn’t declare this war Obama, THE ISLAMISTS
DID, and they’re still at it you (fitb) deceitful traitor in an empty suit..
more & links @ link & here..
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noislamocommie commented:
His treasonous governance bolsters the notion that he was never article II eligible to begin with….total shame.
crosspatch commented:
The way a narcissist often thinks is that if you disagree with them, you must not understand. This is because if you understood, you would agree as a matter of course.
The idea that one could understand completely and still disagree is extremely uncomfortable to the narcissist. They then often play that as “you are too stupid to understand”. Rather than admitting their their own conclusion or logic in reaching it might be flawed, they project the flaw onto the person who is disagreeing with them.
It is sort of like the mad scientists who has a really bad idea but believes it is the answer to everything and that everyone is too stupid to “really” understand and is out to sabotage him by preventing him putting the idea into practice.
spayandneuter commented:
“They prosecuted 190 folks in these Article III courts, got convictions and those folks are in maximum security prisons right now.”
We have already had 190 trials on terrorists? In New York? or where?
bg commented:
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Narcissist, IslaMarxist, samo samo..
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bg commented:
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Clinton sees Islamist terror as No. 1 threat
[Obama administration figures took to Sunday's political talk shows to rebut charges of White House weakness on Islamist terrorism, with the nation's top diplomat saying such networks pose the greatest threat to national security.
While one of the White House's top national security advisers criticized lawmakers for politicizing national security threats, including the Christmas Day attack over Detroit, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said even a nuclear-armed North Korea or Iran isn't as great a threat to the U.S. as al Qaeda and allied jihad groups.
"The biggest nightmare that any of us have is that one of these terrorist member organizations within this syndicate of terror will get their hands on a weapon of mass destruction," she said in a Sunday appearance on CNN. "So that's really the most threatening prospect we see."
Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair told Congress earlier this month he was "certain" there will be an attempted terrorist attack on the United States within the next six months.]
are they finally waking up to what was undeniably
obvious even before B Hussein O was even selected??
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bg commented:
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re: [he was "certain" there will be an attempted terrorist
attack on the United States within the next six months]
let US all hope & pray it’s not the following..
School Threat
[* According to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference on the East Coast, preparations for attacks on American schools that will bring rivers of blood and staggering body counts are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps.
* The intended attackers have bluntly warned us they’re going to do it.
* They’re already begun testing school-related targets here.
* They’ve given us a catastrophic model to train against, which we’ve largely ignored and they’ve learned more deadly tactics from.
[..]
Al-Qaeda has publicly asserted the “right” to kill 2,000,000 American children, Rassa explained, and has warned that “operations are in stages of preparation” now. He played vivid videotapes confiscated in Afghanistan, showing al-Qaeda terrorists practicing the takeover of a school. The trainees issue commands in English, rehearse separating youngsters into manageable groups and meeting any resistance with violence. Some “hostages” are taken to the rooftop, dangled over the edge, then “shot.”]
Computer disc found in Iraq contained U.S. school plans 10/8/2004
[Federal law enforcement authorities notified school districts in six states last month that a computer disc found in Iraq contained photos, floor plans and other information about their schools, two U.S. officials said Thursday.
[..]
The disc contained an Education Department report called “Practical Information on Crisis Planning: A Guide for Schools and Communities,” published in May 2003, as well as photos and floor plans.]
The Ends Islamist Terrorists Seek
[The entire goal of Al Qaeda-type monsters is to provoke a reaction from mainstream America by pursuing evil against those who stand in the way of imposing theocracy. These fascists have no value for life other than that it's simply a means to their end of a totalitarian theocratic state. It is their ideology. In their warped view of religion they are God.
These are not the actions of psychopaths. Instead, they are the calculated actions of those seeking power and those afraid of freedom. They know that liberty's greatest weakness is its wide exposure to attacks against noncombatants (i.e., you and me) and the way in which protections against those attacks alter the very liberties we all seek to protect.
[snip]
If American Muslims declare open war against Al Qaeda, Americans will rush to defend our mosques rather than allow them to be burned. Otherwise, with rage and vengeance, the freedoms so protected by our Constitution will quickly dissipate into a nation gripped by fear and hate of the “other.” And that is the ultimate goal of such horrific acts: to create a reaction which ultimately destroys the very fabric of our nation-the trust of one another, under God, under our Constitution. The children they would kill in schools on this “Perfect Day” would be a utilitarian mechanism (ends justifying the means) to achieve the destruction of the “American” way of life.]
again, unfortunately, just a sample..
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bg commented:
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via the (gasp) WaPo..
Al-Qaeda is a wounded but dangerous enemy
["We have been warning since September 11 that . . . al-Qaeda-inspired terrorists remain committed to striking the United States," he said. "What is different is that we have names and faces to go with that warning. We are therefore seeing the reality."]
truth sarc on/
WHAT HE MEANS IS THEY FINALLY READ THE BILL, UH, CHECKED OUT THE NAMES AND THEIR CONNECTIONS ON THE TERRORIST LIST.. GAH!!
/truth sarc off
something also tells me Obama’s charisma is waning if the even the WaPo realizes how it’s been wool over the eyes fleeced by the “ONE”
and his Islamist promoting agenda..
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Andreas K. commented:
Obama is listening.
To himself.
Also, Obama’s charisma? What charisma? I don’t see him as particularly charismatic. Without people who’re writing his speeches he’d be a babbling bumbling baboon.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Obama: “They prosecuted 190 folks in these Article III courts, got convictions and those folks are in maximum security prisons right now.”
FOR PETE’S SAKE, STOP USING THE WORD “FOLKS” TO DESCRIBE HATEFUL MONSTERS WHO WANT TO MURDER US ALL!!!!!
immature kid commented:
i am sick of seeing him on tv..all the friggin time…
bg commented:
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Andreas K. @ 3:32 pm #44
hah, i don’t see him as being charismatic either, but i don’t think
you can deny the press et al have & still do to some extent..
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Kathy from Kansas commented:
exceller @ #20:
If Obamas strategy is to tear the country apart he’s doing a great job. He never finishes anything, he starts up something divisive and then keep it swirling around and around our heads in order to confuse and disorient the country.
Yes, it IS precisely his strategy, and yes, he is executing it very well. (See: William Ayers; Weather Underground; Prairie Fire–the WU manifesto; Saul Alinsky; and Cloward-Piven Strategy.)
David Horowitz’s new booklet “Barack Obama’s Rules for Revolution” is the best, clearest summary I have read of everything that’s going on. Nothing that is currently happening is the least bit mystifying after you have read it. Andrew McCarthy even calls this booklet “the Rosetta Stone.” I tend to agree.
Free, downloadable pdf version is at:
http://frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Rules-for-Revolution.pdf
or order a copy of the booklet at:
http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/30/barack-obamas-rules-for-revolution-the-alinsky-model/
The very readable pocket-size booklet is $3 for one copy, or $25 for 25 copies–and believe me, you will easily sell or give away 25 copies of this very quickly. It’s dynamite.
Running an extremely close second to the above, and being a shorter and quicker read, is James Simpson’s article “Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
This article is also one you will want to give to everyone you know.
Read both, and I guarantee you that every single destructive, counter-productive, even politically suicidal thing that Obama and Pelosi are doing….WILL MAKE PERFECT SENSE.
Sick, demonic, diabolical sense, granted, but in light of their worldview and goals, perfectly logical and terrifyingly effective.
Scott commented:
Keep your eye on the ball…Obama will try to bribe NYC with bailouts and hundreds of millions in subsidies to get them on board with trials…Mayor Bloomberg may suddenly have a change of heart, or not…My thinking is that Bloomberg is too smart to fall for Obama’s bribes. It is too dangererous…Regardless of the take…
Scott commented:
Obama-mao has some serious Daddy issues…He never got the discipline he needed from his polygamist, womanizing, drunk, absentee father…Give the man a passifier please and tell him to go play with his toys. We have work to do.
bg commented:
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uhg, they never go away.. like those
they support, till death do they part..
George Galloway
["I have never been a supporter of Hamas."]
yeah right, and Barry Soetoro never read the Koran..
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Kathy from Kansas commented:
re: bg’s post #42 on alQaeda’s threats to our schoolchildren:
I am sitting here trembling with rage, tears streaming down my face because of RAGE at my powerlessness in this situation, RAGE at my impotence to GET RID OF those monsters in Washington, DC, who KNOW this can happen and are doing NOTHING to stop it, indeed, are encouraging it in oh so many ways.
I am a mother, and I HATE (forgive me, Lord Jesus) these people. I hate the traitors in our own midst much more than I do the jihadists themselves. The jihadists are brainwashed monsters. Their minds have been warped by a demonic ideology–I am terrified by them, but I don’t hate them. It would be like hating sharks for being sharks. But Obama and company…. No excuse.
Impeachment is pitifully inadequate to what they have done. They need to be PUT ON TRIAL FOR TREASON.
bg commented:
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Kathy from Kansas @ 8:21 pm #52
re: [They need to be PUT ON TRIAL FOR TREASON.]
i could not agree more..
and here we have Obama affording a confessed
murderer & others the same rights & privileges
of “citizenship” via the KSM trails in NYC..
Obama is an IslaMarxist, and we are in grave danger no matter what the enemy does because i truly believe he backs whatever they do deep down in his anti-American/Christian/White souless heart..
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