Glenn Beck Addresses CPAC 10 – Beats Up on GOP
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, February 20, 2010, 5:25 PM
Consider This a Glenn Beck Open Thread.
Beck: It’s a disease. It’s not just taxing. It’s not just spending. It’s progressivism.
I appreciate several of the things Beck says but personally I hate it when he constantly beats up on the GOP.
I do wish he would recognize that not one single House Republican voted for the gigantic Stimulus Bill, the record Omnibus Bill, and the Son of Stimulus Bill in 2009. And, only 5 voted for the democrat’s business-busting cap-and-tax bill and only one voted for Obamacare.
Beck: The best way to plant democracy is through example? Wrong.
Tell that to Germany, Japan, Eastern Europe, Iraq, Italy, South Korea, etc. When did conservatives become embarrassed for bringing freedom to the oppressed? Why?
Beck: Our best days are ahead of us… Tomorrow it will again be morning in America.
Great.
C-SPAN has the video.
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Winston commented:
His 3rd party promotion is dangerous, naive and hopeless. He could be more effective trying to help reform GOP and promote good GOP candidate. Third party is going to make USA look like Italy, Israel or Holland where governments collapse every 6-7 months and nothing is ever going to get done.
Rosemary Woodhouse commented:
I believe Glenn is trying waaaaaay too hard to prove he’s not partisan. He knows who his audience is. He shouldn’t mess with a winning formula.
I…we, probably…agree, Winston. A third party would be disastrous!
Michael in MI commented:
I look at it a different way. Beck’s 3rd Party talk is just the kick in the ass the GOP needs. They need to know the looming threat of losing their base is there if they don’t finally get their acts together. Without that threat, they will just do as they have done the last 8-10 years… give lip service to conservatism, while knowing they won’t lose conservatives since everyone keeps saying “Democrats are horrible and 3rd party will just help them, so we have no choice but the GOP”.
That message is what has allowed the GOP to take conservatives for granted, pay them lip service to get elected and then snub them once they are in office.
So we need Beck. We need both the grassroots to work to reform the GOP from within and we need Beck to remind them that if they resist that reform, we are gone and their party is dead.
ar05075 commented:
Did you ever consider the possibilty that his ‘beating up on the GOP’ was an attempt to force them to reform themselves??????
What 3rd party candidate has he been stumping for??
Betsy Ross commented:
Maybe it’s about time for Conservatives to let the world know that we stand for the US Constitution…that is our platform…period.
That is what we believe in, that is what we fight and die for, that is the only thing that allows for indiviual freedom…
If you don’t like it, then please, pick from any other country on this planet and move there, your choices are multiple. I only have one…
The United States of America
May God Bless the USA and keep her FREE
Winston commented:
All these multi-party countries (Europe, Canada, Asia…) are in trouble for that reason. Multi party ruling system is a disaster.
Ditto commented:
With Beck slamming the Birthers, he lost all respect from me anyway. As a 54 yr old grandmother of 4 young grandsons, I want the big Zero to show his birth certificate, its not wacky or anything else to want to know if we have been Usurped from within, and it sure does look like we have. Beck thinks offending millions of people will endear him to Conservatives? Not this Conservative, and I used to love him!
ar05075 commented:
WOW GP, never seen ya’ll so one dimensional. It’s sad.
Cynic commented:
Glenn Beck has it right about a lot of things. But, when he injects his “and Bush did it too” we turn him off in our house.
I do agree we do not need a third party and that the GOP needs to reassess its strategy and learn to really fight this Marxism that is being forced on us by the liberals. THis next election can not be run like McCain and Co. ran the last one or bho will have four more years to destroy the country. And, that would about do it.
BigAlSouth commented:
Come on, Ditto. You “lost all respect for Beck because he slammed Birthers”? Captain Ahab’s obsession with Moby Dick makes more sense. Sometimes one has to know when to drop the pursuit in order to capture a greater prize. You and the Birthers can continue your White Whale Quest. I have more important fish to fry, that is to keep Obama from spending the US into oblivion or into financial slavery to the ChiComs.
newrouter commented:
“the GOP needs to reassess its strategy”
no their principles
jjjjjjj commented:
“Beck: It’s a disease. It’s not just taxing. It’s not just spending. It’s progressivism.”
Is Beck talking about the Gay agenda at CPAC?
Valerie commented:
I enjoy Glenn Beck, but feel no obligation whatsoever to agree with him on any given subject. I don’t think he demands that.
The 3rd party business is a loser. The Tea Parties should take a look at their local candidates, and try to get the candidates from BOTH parties on board. That’s how you get your agenda enacted.
jjjjjjj commented:
Beck “its all about me, me, me!!! but my book! “
Kenny Solomon commented:
Of what I see daily, most of the elected GOP are not protecting and defending the Constitution, nor are they listening to the people who put them in place.
They’re part of the problem.
They’re still playing a game of “please like us”.
To Mr. Beck, I say: Don’t stop….. hit harder. Call them out by name.
It’s our nation, our freedom and literally our lives now at stake.
These freaks of nature in the current administration are moving towards some seriously evil regulations and orders……… Notice I didn’t say laws ? Congress is just about irrelevant now and some of the more moderate Democrats are starting to realize it. They’re getting about as corked off as we are. Too bad only a few of the folks on our side of the aisle in DC seem to get it.
Kenny Solomon
DC Works For Us
http://www.dcworksforus.com
A South Florida-based patriots organization.
noislamocommie commented:
Oh well…somebody tell Beck his very FAVORITE just won the straw poll.I think people are in the mood for conspiracy after all.this is like a response to Mr. Question Boldly who only wants his questions anwsered.We The People want the CONSTITUTION respected and who is it that rules over us.
I’m beginning to wonder about Pawlenty myself.
ar05075 commented:
#15
Thank you Kenny, a sound voice, as usual.
centralcal commented:
Kenny: I second the dittoes of aro5075!
olm commented:
I think Michael in MI is right. I am not a Beck fan but his message is exactly right. This message: The GOP can not take any vote for granted. They need to stick to principles and principles only. But the minute this elite bullsh** rears it’s ugly head there are very few Conservatives that are going to give them a pass. They will lose votes and continue to lose power. This is a deadly serious game to reverse the changes that Barack is very successful at. The GOP is at a crossroads and Beck is sounding a wake up call.
Captain Jean Luc-Picard commented:
Beck has gone off the rails. This week on his program he equated Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi with Dick Cheney. I’m frankly sick of this pox on both their houses mindset.
olm commented:
Oh, sorry Kenny, ditto. I didn’t read yours until after I posted.
Bob commented:
No third party. If we go that route we will so become a socialist nation and one that is in a civil war. Lets try to avoid that and get the GOP back on track
Michael in MI commented:
Kenny Solomon on February 20th, 2010 | 6:11 pm | #15
Well stated, Kenny. I completely agree.
joseph commented:
I listened to the full Glen Beck speech. He was vintage Glen though the task may have overwhelmed him and I think he missed the mark.
In spite of the clamour by the progressive/liberal/socialist main stream media that CPAC should not just be Obama/Democratic Party bashing, the point is that as the keynote speaker Beck should have been more pointed and indeed more caustic about the infantile incompetence of Obama. He should have explained more clearly the non- selfsustaining nature of the liberals.
He did start off well with his focus on progressives being the issue and not Obama. That did not mean he should have laid off Obama. Obama is the apogee of the failure yet (unfortunately) advancement of the liberals from the beginning of the 20th Century and there should have been a greater focus on this. i.e. Empty, shallow, narcissistic, inept, selfish, me centered Obama = liberalism at its worst and most ineffective.
His best and most pointed line was that one party wants to tax more and spend more while the other party wants to tax less and spend more. He could have expanded that point.
Amazingly Glen gets the bigger picture in the historical case and this is wonderful. He appears though to miss part of the larger picture in the present context.
AuntieMadder commented:
BigAlSouth
February 20th, 2010 | 6:06 pm | #10
It’s not that Beck disagrees with birthers or thinks we’re nuts. He’s got a stick up his butt about it lately, going so far as to lump birthers with the Austin suicide pilot. Further, he’s been using Alinsky tactics on birthers, claiming that birthers are <6% at each extreme end of the political spectrum, that we're loonies and warning everyone else to distance and disassociate themselves from birthers.
The crusade that he and O'Reilly are on to destroy and discredit birthers is obvious. I suspect it has to do with Saudi ownership of News Corp, the parent company of Fox News.
Anyway, as I'm not one-dimensional and can focus on the issues while still wanting Obamao to open all his records as all POTUS before him had done (bc, school and college records, draft card, passports, etc.), and as I'm far from an extremist loony (I've never before bought into conspiracy before- I believe 9/11 was terrorism, Oswald killed Kennedy, NASA went to the moon, etc.), Beck's attempt to marginalize me and your comparison to Ahab are both unwarranted. Shouldn't matter much to you, but after years of listening to him on the radio and watching his Fox program, Beck lost another audience member here.
LytnUp commented:
I am not particularly a Glen Beck fan, but I can sympathize with some of his sentiments.
The least you would expect is for someone to live up to their advertising. Democrats promise more spending, higher taxes and deliver. Republicans promise fiscal conservatism, lower taxes and deliver….deficit spending (on higher revenues to boot!) – Democrat with a twist.
At least the Republicans have appeared to get off of the bus when it was only in first gear driving toward the cliff. It is not as though they can say “okay, now that Obama is flooring it toward the abyss, you must accept our credibility.” If the Republicans can only do the right thing when they are in the minority (or have a ‘contract’), people have every right to bash them, and be wary if they get the keys again.
My hope is that the Tea Partiers can have a pronounced effect on the primary selections, without killing the party that is supposed to stand for much of what they represent. Maybe the Tea Party can help it be that party.
jjjjjjjjjj commented:
From Politico, Rumor has it Beck has done “come out of the closet..” yep, thats right.. full on homo..
Bogdan from Australia commented:
Again, Sarah Palin emerges as one of the only handfull of the sane people in the US…
Palin/West in 2012!
newrouter commented:
“that we’re loonies and warning everyone else to distance and disassociate themselves from birthers.”
i stay away from people who beat a dead horse.
Tammy commented:
Kenny Solomon: Brilliant as usual. You post on other blogs that I follow, and I respect your opinion.
Jim Hoft: Are you JEALOUS of Glenn Beck?
Don’t you understand that he has revived the dead GOP and that some of the GOP must go away? FOREVER????(like Romney, Gingrich and the rest of the tired old men).
You seem like the old, boring, dull, clueless GOP that lost to Obama, the most openly corrupt person to run for the Presidency.
You don’t think the GOP needs revamping?
Get a CLUE sir!
joseph commented:
Glen Beck was correct in his references to the progressive nature of the GOP. They too have become enamoured of the gilded cage that is Washington DC and have also become much like the liberals in ivory towers.
Remember only 20 years after Margaret Thatcher in the UK and Ronald Reagan in the USA we have ended up with the utter failures in President Obama and Prime Minister Brown.
Look at the mess our societies are in.
This shows that in spite of victories that liberalism/progressivism/socialism has so entrenched itself in the media, academic world and the public service that they move inexorably on even to the point that many Republican leaders are progressives in disguise.
They have to be called out and progressivism has to be identified EVERYWHERE and squashed.
Kenny Solomon commented:
ar05075 ; centralcal ; olm ; Michael in MI
Thanks…… I’m just being honest.
There’s much more I want to (and can) say about this, but I’ve got an AR in full takedown for cleaning and need to finish.
Eden commented:
You have to think big picture with Glenn, not wallet sized.
I don’t know where you get 3rd party, he’s not even talking about that. He’s talking about getting back to the founding principles and doing it with honor. The birther stuff is just a distraction whether you believe it or not.
Jo commented:
Beck is getting heat for being compared as the polar opposite to blowhard Kieth Uber Bozo.
Kenny Solomon commented:
Hi Tammy… Thanks.
Maybe I should start my own blog thingy.
non_dhimmie commented:
Big test for this speech….let’s see who crosses aisle for the healthcare and jobs bill….glenn is calling out the GOP….good on him…
I myself am tired of I was an alcoholic meme.
Glenn is saving our country….Rush has never been able to get this much enthusiasm…Love Glenn Beck’s reading lists….he’s making all of us read about our Country….bravo……
ar05075 commented:
There’s much more I want to (and can) say about this, but I’ve got an AR in full takedown for cleaning and need to finish.
==========================
I truly respect your priorities sir.!!
Rosemary Woodhouse commented:
Kenny, you absolutely should start your own blog! I, too, follow other blogs you post on.
maria commented:
I believe losing my mind:
America just voted the worst President ever in the White House. He is full of B***s***, and a big liar.
Glenn Beck is telling just the trues and he get stoned for that.
Is there anything somebody can do right for you guy’s?
Shame on you….
Looks like that
ar05075 commented:
#37
I myself am tired of I was an alcoholic meme.
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The more he does it , the more it deprives the enemy(media) the oppurtunity.
Valerie commented:
jjjjjjj at #28 -
must be a shill for Politico. That, or a very careless (non) reader.
joseph commented:
Glen Beck like many conservatives is also missing the mark if they think that the new conservatism is going to be about fiscal descipline and national security while we forget about the social issues.
If we forget about the sancity of life and the “human rights” of the unborn child we will go downhill irrespective of how desciplined we are fiscally.
If we continue to promote single motherhood and ignore the family as we know it we are in serious trouble. Fatherless families are the single biggest cause of delinquincy and cause of incarceration of the black male (for example) then we would have lost our soul.
The American founding fathers said “In God we Trust” not “In the dollar we trust “.
Conservatism is finding its feet but let us hope it walks the right path.
maria commented:
Hi Kenny, you are dead right:
Kenny SolomonNo Gravatar
February 20th, 2010 | 6:11 pm | #15
Of what I see daily, most of the elected GOP are not protecting and defending the Constitution, nor are they listening to the people who put them in place.
They’re part of the problem.
They’re still playing a game of “please like us”.
To Mr. Beck, I say: Don’t stop….. hit harder. Call them out by name.
It’s our nation, our freedom and literally our lives now at stake.
These freaks of nature in the current administration are moving towards some seriously evil regulations and orders……… Notice I didn’t say laws ? Congress is just about irrelevant now and some of the more moderate Democrats are starting to realize it. They’re getting about as corked off as we are. Too bad only a few of the folks on our side of the aisle in DC seem to get it.
Kenny Solomon
DC Works For Us
http://www.dcworksforus.com
A South Florida-based patriots organization.
Mike W commented:
In the meant time Oren Hatch told Tea Party members to shut up and vote for the GOP candidates the GOP tells them to vote for regardless of how progressive these candidates are. Has the GOP forgot NY 23 and the progressive they promoted?
Scott commented:
I loved Beck’s speech. He is rightly putting the heat on the GOP. Anybody who says the GOP governed as conservatives when they had control of both Houses and the President from 2000 to 2006 isn’t being honest with themself. Bruce Bartlett, a longtime conservative who did much of the analytical legwork to develop supply side economics and who worked in both the Reagan and Bush 41 administrations, became so frustrated he quit the party and wrote a couple of books denouncing them.
The GOP establishment leadership is so unrealiable about candidate recruitment that Jim DeMint formed his own PAC to ensure there would be some reliably conservative senatorial candidates in the GOP primaries. Thanks to his leadership, we will have some real conservatives, like Marco Rubio, in the races this fall.
Thanks to Beck for putting the pressure on the GOP.
lori commented:
I think Beck has been instrumental in helping the average citizen to recall history, the progressive movement, and he has challenged us to get reading about our founding fathers—these topics must be relearned and for many of us, learned for the first time, about how toxic the progressive movement has been on distorting and corroding away our country. He really is not a Ron Paul fan, at least he doesnt praise him on his show. I know Beck is not encouraging a 3rd party—he is just challenging the Republican party to “come clean, stick to their principals”, for us to sober up so that we can defeat the leprosy of the progressives. Frankly, if we defeated every single member of Congress who belong to the Progressive Caucus, I would rest assured that we could reform our party in time. But it takes Honesty from ourselves, to recognize that we have been corupted from within—we can do better–but like he said, we first must admit we have had a problem, and fix ourselves.
bitterclinger commented:
You go, Kenny. I shudder to think where we’d be without Beck and the mass quantities of relevant info he has identified this past year. In my opinion, he belongs on Mount Rushmore. And thank you for your service.
Rosemary Woodhouse commented:
Beautifully worded, Joesph. To that I would add, stop immigration until our economy stabliizes, secure our borders, stop declaring anchor babies as citizens, make English the law of the land, stop hyphenating ourselves, and teach those who are privileged enough to reside here to once again be proud Americans.
p.s. I cannot abide hearing “in my country” from an emigre. If you live here, THIS IS your country.
Jayne on the left coast commented:
Beck is becoming more like BOR everyday.
Carolynn commented:
I just watched Glenn’s speech for the 2nd time. It was awesome. I was in tears at many parts. That was the most moving political speech of my life.
It would have been nice for him to acknowledge a few GOP’er’s doing a great job in the fight. But we don’t need Glenn or anyone else to validate what we know is true about our great leaders.
I do however think his line about “The Big Tent” hit home for me. The problem is much deeper then getting more hispanics and blacks to vote Republican.
Glen was a personal inspiration too me tonight!
avery commented:
Eden 34# is right on the button.He was one of the main player on the Tea party and 9/12 group.I have been a fan of Glen for 3 year he not for a 3rd party ,he doese want to get the Progressivie out of the party.I was hoping he went off on the Union tonight.Don”t get hung up own one issue.
NielsOZ commented:
Glen Beck got it right. Power corrupts all who lacks the moral fiber provided by the constitution. Progressive republications are like democrats, but on Valium. America needs politicians who realise the danger of getting high on political power and will be willing to confront their own like of humility. We need Republican to realise that spending and entitlement programs to garner votes is a betrayal of the Constitution and the moral ideals that got them elected in the first place. IF NOT, they have to GO.
John747 commented:
By my count 8 Republicans voted for the Cap-and-Trade bill. Unfortunately that includes Mark Kirk who is now the Republican candidate for US Senator in Illinois. And Mike Castle of Delaware who also voted for Cap-and-Trade is one of the leading Republicans looking to take over the seat formerly held by Joe Biden. That’s 2 of the 8 who might end up in the Senate this year. These are not the type of Republicans I want to see in the Senate. I live in Illinois and have decided I cannot and will not vote for Mark Kirk. I will no longer hold my nose while I cast a vote for a Republican like him. I will not vote for anyone for that office this year unless another candidate emerges that is more of a fiscal conservative than Kirk. If that means a Democrat wins…so be it.
Tim H commented:
What Beck may be trying to say, is that the Repubs have been spending almost as much as the Dems in the last 8 years or so. Rush said in 08 that the Repub party was what the Dem party was 20 years ago and the Dem party was what the communist party was 20 years ago. The Repubs need to listen to the Tea Party (which has some Dems in it too, not just Repubs and Indys) and get back to Real Conservative, Constitutional Ideals or this country is a trainwreck about to encounter the collapsed bridge.
I am a birther in the sense that I want to see that Long Form Certificate that every other candidate showed. If he can’t prove that he is natural born and disqualified from being a President, then everything he has done since taking office is null and void. Just makes one wonder why EVERY record in his life is locked down.
Matt commented:
You’re right on the 2009 spending bills and the GOP, but I think Beck is rightfully considering our past – things like the Highway Bill in 2005. Yes, I agree with you that the GOP is the lesser of two evils, but I think Beck rightfully realizes how quickly any politician will spend us into oblivion given the opportunity.
Pasadena Phil commented:
“I do wish he [Beck] would recognize that not one single House Republican voted for the gigantic Stimulus Bill, the record Omnibus Bill, and the Son of Stimulus Bill in 2009.”
Irrelevant. Those votes were all Kabuki theater. When the GOP had the majorities everywhere, why weren’t these polymorphic life forms pushing for tort reform, interstate competition, border control, small government and so on? Because they are big government weasels in league with the Dems.
They are the same guys who brought us the two shamnesty cramdown attempts and the first big bank bailout, and voted for porkulus while orchestrating the 2006 and 2008 election catastrophes who are still in charge of the GOP. They have been fired by now!
Beck is right in targeting these Republican weasels. Before we go after the Dems, we first need to straighten out our team because right now and more than ever, THEY SUCK!!!
Pasadena Phil commented:
“I do wish he [Beck] would recognize that not one single House Republican voted for the gigantic Stimulus Bill, the record Omnibus Bill, and the Son of Stimulus Bill in 2009.”
Irrelevant. Those votes were all Kabuki theater. When the GOP had the majorities everywhere, why weren’t these polymorphic life forms pushing for tort reform, interstate competition, border control, small government and so on? Because they are big government weasels in league with the Dems.
They are the same guys who brought us the two shamnesty cramdown attempts and the first big bank bailout, and voted for porkulus while orchestrating the 2006 and 2008 election catastrophes who are still in charge of the GOP. They should have been fired by now!
Beck is right in targeting these Republican weasels. Before we go after the Dems, we first need to straighten out our team because right now and more than ever, THEY SUCK!!!
Rosemary Woodhouse commented:
Can someone kindly provide a link to a video of the speech? Thanks, in advance.
Tammy commented:
Jim Hoft:
I come to this site religiously, but you seem to be fighting the “people” from the GOP who disagree with you.
You led the tea parties, and now you act like you know better than “WE the PEOPLE”.
Glenn Beck is the only man, besides Sarah Palin, who isn’t playing politics, but is giving us the TRUTH.
Apparently, you insider GOP idiots don’t see the TRUTH, and want to keep running your own con job on us.
You keep pushing idiots like Romney on us, and WE’VE HAD IT!!!
Are you listening to the people, Jim?
Apparently not.
But guess what.
WE will WIN.
Not you old farts who follow the moronic party line.
Wake UP, you idiot!!
America has, and the GOP is DEAD if they keep following YOUR mantra.
jjjjjj commented:
Beck is doing everything he can to get Obama reselected. Beck loses power if Republicans gain control and he knows it, Beck is only out for himself and doesnt give a f**k about the the country he only cares about himself and making money hawking books and selling out concerts.. the people are on to the little a**hole soon he will have to live in guam.
LisaGinNZ commented:
Thank you Auntie Madder and Tim H: wanting actual proof the putative POTUS is actually qualified for the job is not an ‘extreme’ position.
Yes, Beck has been doing an OK job, but if he’s supposed to be 100% for the constitution, he SHOULD discuss it all including the NBC qualification:
a) why did the founders put it in the document if they didn’t think it was important?
b) why exclude discussing some parts of constitution – why not discuss it ALL?
Interesting how Fox never covered/covers things like Articles of Freedom as output of the Continental Congress 2009…
hmm… oh, sorry, Saudi owners say ‘no…’ Beck?
jjjjjj commented:
Beck wants Obama to stay in power so the Conservatives keep listening to his dumbasss
jjjjjj commented:
the more balance of Power that we have in Government the less power that asssholes like Beck have that he know it..
observer commented:
I don’t watch Beck on TV, so I listened to this speech with no assumptions. I heard a couple things:
1. We are facing some huge issues in our immediate and longer term future. They are real and they are serious. Those who are in denial – whatever party they might have been elected from – are failing us. There are not bandaids to be put on the mess we’re in.
We’ve partied and spent like drunken sailors and until we bottom out and realize just how bad things are we won’t be able to turn it around.
2. If ever there was a people who COULD turn around a situation like the one facing us, it’s America – so long as we go back to the principles on which the country was built. Those principles include personal liberty AND personal responsibility, each of which requires that government be limited to essential functions.
3. Progressivism is the enemy and utter contrast to those principles. Wherever you find political leaders increasing government’s reach, its spending and its tax base, they are progressives – no matter which party they’re registered in.
4. What we’re facing economically and in other ways will be tough. It will be absolutely tough to turn around. Don’t let yourself be lulled into thinking otherwise. Look reality in the face every day.
5. And then take personal responsibility, fight for personal freedom and do the hard work we will need to do to make it through and to ensure that the America of tomorrow will be all it can be for us and for our children and grandchildren.
I was impressed. He nails the deep, fundamental issues.
Tammy commented:
jjjjj?
What the hell kind of crack are you on?
That’s right: Beck is about HIS power.
Tell that to his security detail that has to prevent loons like YOU from killing him.
You trolls are so obvious now that you are ridiculous.
And Jim Hoft?
WAKE UP to the people who tell the truth and not some loser like Romney who will NEVER get elected.
sandy commented:
The problem with this Govt is not the Republicans or the two party system. Its the Democrats who control everything.
Mr. Beck we don’t need a third party we need a strong revitalized Republican party so that we can have checks and balances.
And when we hear Biden go on about Washington being broken he is saying that Obama wants more power in the Executive Branch.
My favorite is Rush Limbaugh. He is a Republican first last and always. I trust him completely. Rush cannot be bought.
Militant Conservative commented:
skip to the 69th reply. Beck is right to admonish the Progressive repub’s. Teh conservative movement needs to arise. The republicans in genreal have sold out to the moderate agenda. this is not he way. If we go the way of the moderate. the progressive agenda will be with bullets not rehtoric. we are very close to a revolutionary war. we must act swiftly to avoid this. If not, well others have provided for the other course.
powder is dry.
sandy commented:
jjjjj — I agree. Beck needs angry voters to succeed. He is very self absorbed.
Joe commented:
“I do hate it when he constantly beats up on the GOP.”
I’m so with you on that. As of late he is drifting into ron paul territory; his “there is no difference between republicans & democrats” mantra is increasing every week. “progressives, Progressives, PROGRESSIVES…” – enough already, we get it.
I initially started watching his show when Levin said it was worth watching for entertainment value. I started finding beck’s arguments compelling & actually disagreed with Levin (which is rare). Now I realize Mark was right all along – this guy is useful for nothing more than entertainment. I canceled my insider membership & recently removed his series recording from my tivo (& I have a feeling that I’m not alone in this).
It seems like all beck does is paste talking points from reasontv into his teleprompter. Sure, he mentions Reagan from time to time, but either he does not understand Reagan’s philosophy, or he does not subscribe to it. Reagan was fighting the views of people like beck decades ago.
People like ron paul & beck are dangerous to conservatives & it blows my mind that CPAC, with such a stellar reputation of key notes, chose him this year. I actually cringed when the audience gave him a standing ovation.
All of us conservatives take issue with some aspects of the GOP, & we all certainly hold disdain for at least one GOP member of congress, but the bottom line is that in our current system, there is one party that is almost always the clear choice (scozzafava is an exception). The fact that beck said he would have struggled over the choice between McCain & Hillary is about all you need to know.
I also find it funny when he blasts obama for repeatedly bringing up bush, when beck himself mentions his disgust for bush on a daily basis. While we all thought bush spent too much, beck’s over-blaming of his administration really shows me his inability to understand substance. He never separates the two distinct economic eras of the bush years: the pre- & post-democrat controlled congress. & I’m so sick of him stating that the bush admin was equally at fault for the mortgage crisis when that is simply not true. They repeatedly tried to regulate (that is, by deregulating & letting the free market dictate lending) & the libs shouted them down. He is simply perpetuating the same myths & lies about the GOP that the libs & the MSM spread. He claims to speak the “truth,” yet he distorts it to promote his agenda (whatever that is). As soon as I saw him chumming it up with oreilly, I came to realize that he, like oreilly, is just a ratings wh*re (anyone remember how sympathetic oreilly was to obama once he knew the electorate was tilting in his favor? He showed his true colors as a sellout, faux conservative just like noonan et al.).
I wish rush would follow levin’s example & expose beck for the fraud that he is. I really do think that if beck continues down this path of “there’s no difference between the parties,” more & more true conservatives will stand up to his elementary arguments the way Reagan did 30 years ago. Anyone with a real understanding of our political landscape knows that the notion of “vote for the person, not the party” is utterly useless. How can you stand for that when the biggest attempt at gov overreach (that is, health care) was almost a complete party line vote?
All of these attempts to splinter conservative votes into various 3rd party factions only hurts us. The more conservative votes are taken away from the GOP, the less representation the conservative voice will have in congress. The dems are getting closer & closer in their pursuit of passing health care reform, & the only realistic way to stop them is by increasing the republican vote.
I would pay money to see hannity bring levin on his show to expose beck. I would pay even more money to see levin devour beck in a debate on the issues.
Here are a couple clips of levin talking about beck – there are much better ones, but these are the first two I came across just now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwDS1IBVT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP67Brx2KwE
so cal chick commented:
If the GOP sucks so bad – explain this breaking news…
“Committee investigators (GOP) have identified hundreds of ACORN bank accounts, shell organizations incorporated under different sections of the Internal Revenue code, and even an ACORN controlled accounting firm (Citizens Consulting Inc.) that helps ACORN obscure the true use of charitable donations and taxpayer funds,” reads the report, titled “Follow the Money: ACORN, SEIU and their Political Allies.”
This investigation fueled by the GOP, namely Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) is leading towards the defunding of ACORN – once and for all -
and….
when the GOP had a slight majority…they DID pass tort reform, etc. in the House – it was killed in the Senate…
I would shed no tears if McCain were to retire and move aside for J.D. Hayworth, but to slam the entire GOP – is just wholly inaccurate…
JadedByPolitics commented:
He calls out the GOP because they are to the left of WE The People. The majority of those still in DC voted FOR the 700B bank bailout and they then found fiscal religion under the Democrat President because they sure didn’t find it under President Bush.
Beck needs to continue to call out the progressives in our party like McCain so that when people go out to vote in the primaries they can decide they have had quite enough of these LARGE GOVERNMENT Republicans. They totally fear him and the TEA Party Movement and they should!
They are 21% WE are 40% and its about darn time they started going along to get along with US instead of the other way around.
ar05075 commented:
jjjjjj……..Is that a stutter while you self-gratify
Militant Conservative commented:
read the rest of the diatrib.
jjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 8:11 pm | #66
Yes you are smoking crack. Becks rants are about those that have surrendured liberties for securitiy. This can never be done. I am here to stop it. I have given my oathe to stop it. I am one of the refounders. I am a patriot that does not waver nor will retreat. I have trained and sacrificed for this country and will not back down. I am a Master Mason like the first president and will not allow this country to go into the great night of the abyss. powder is dry.
ar05075 commented:
#73
All thanks to Beck.
Rosemary Woodhouse commented:
DUH! Sorry, I didn’t see the link under Jim’s blog entry!
ar05075 commented:
Rosemary #61
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/36618/
Ladue Pundit commented:
I do tire of hearing people say, “It’s both parties,” when we know the biggest problem is democrats, their party platform, and the idiots who vote for them.
Republicans have always been held to a higher standard by their own and the phony media, each for different reasons. Beck slams the R’s hardest because we expect so much more from them.
When Trend Lott, who was not my fav, gave a harmless birthday tribute to Strom Thurmond, the party of slavery, infanticide, and record high taxes drove him from power. The Republicans stood there and took it.
There are several R’s who need to go: Owe ‘em Hatch, McCain (big time), Grahamnesty–to name a few.
But the Republican Party is our best hope. It’s needs a little work, but it’s turnkey. And I can’t recall the last time Beck had a Democrat on his show.
Sandy, I’m with you. Rush is the gold standard.
Lizzy commented:
Glenn is right when he points out that it’s republicans and democrats that are destroying our country. He doesn’t take sides and that’s the way it should. I used to consider myself a republicans but after the past year or so it just seems like they are no where to be found. I hardly ever see them fighting for us and standing up against the progressives and liberals. So props to Glenn for always speaking out against ANYONE that is screwing with our constitution and freedoms…even Republicans. And as for the birther thing. If I had to vote on it I would say Obama probably wasn’t born here because if he was why the hell doesn’t he show a real birth certficate? But I don’t even give a crap about it because what’s done is done, he is President and there is no way in hell he will get impeached for it.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
jjjjjjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 6:34 pm | #28
From Politico, Rumor has it Beck has done “come out of the closet..” yep, thats right.. full on homo..
I see stupid people.
bg commented:
++
albeit he can be a bit theatrical,
i’m with the pro-Beck opinions..
and i’m rotflmbo at the pathetic anti-Beck opinions..
ie: [Beck wants Obama to stay in power so the
Conservatives keep listening to his dumbasss]
too funny..
disclaimer: i’m still quite angry with him for comparing
Bush to Obama as one of the “blame them” types.. gah!!
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Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
jjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 8:08 pm | #63
Beck is doing everything he can to get Obama reselected. Beck loses power if Republicans gain control and he knows it, Beck is only out for himself and doesnt give a f**k about the the country he only cares about himself and making money hawking books and selling out concerts.. the people are on to the little a**hole soon he will have to live in guam.
I still see stupid people.
wildwood commented:
I am careful about Beck nowadays, though I loved him before he became so popular. However I thought he was right on tonight. Look at what we are facing next week. The return of that monster health care bill and the beginning of the use of the “majority”(50+1) as a way to ram through every other monster they want. The Republicans better stand strong for the American people. They better. This is the shot across the bow. He’s right.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
jjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 8:09 pm | #65
Beck wants Obama to stay in power so the Conservatives keep listening to his dumbasss
jjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 8:11 pm | #66
the more balance of Power that we have in Government the less power that asssholes like Beck have that he know it..
Every form needs an asshat. Thank you for helping us out many j’s.
bg commented:
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ar05075 @ 8:43 pm #77
Glenn’s info is great..
but imho, Rush states it better..
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Jerry M commented:
I hope Beck’s rants against the GOP are intended to get their attention and nothing more. Like it or not, the only viable alternative to the radical progressivism of the Democrats now in power is the Republican Party. When he speaks as though there is no difference between the parties, he is speakng nonsense. He calls for Republicans to make a mea culpa for their past role in excessive spending when they already have by their actions this past year. Surely he is not ignorant of the position of virtually every Republican in the House and Senate regarding Obamacare, Cap and Trade, stimulus spending and giant budget deficits. If he and some others keep promoting this equivalency of the parties mantra, they may very well get a continuation of what they claim to despise, the continuing rise of progressivism. This is the kind of cut off your nose to spite your face mentality by some conservatives that gave us Obama and the radically left Democrats leading the House and Senate.
Lizzy commented:
jjjjjj
Get off here you stupid troll
archer52 commented:
Guys,
This is simple. What Beck says, and is correct about, is that the driving force inside the Republican party for YEARS has been the “big government” members. Call them “progressive-lite” for lack of a better description.
Bush I, McCain, Nixon, GWB, Graham, Snowe, Collins, on and on and on. These people believe, as GWB told us, that government CAN be effective, if only big enough and funded enough. Beck’s effort is not to undermine the Republicans, it is to wake up the people enough to see past the (R) on the name and look at their beliefs individually. That way we can move out Romney and replace him with Pence. Move out Crist and replace him with Rubio.
Reagan fought and only partially won this battle all through the seventies and eighties. He made many compromises. I believe Beck is convinced the collapse of the world’s economy removed the wiggle room politicians had to keep us asleep with false promises. He fears, rightly so as proven by history, that people when scared and hungry will follow false demi-gods (Lenin, Stalin, Hitler,Mussolini, Mao). He wants us to be smart enough, educated enough and have to clear vision to see through the bull artists of either party so we won’t fall for a false political demi-god.
I believe he wants the conservatives to re-shape the party. And he is right. It is long past the time we make the “progressive-lites” of our party sit on the bench for a decade or two. We can’t take their help any longer. Besides I also believe he feels the real savior for our nation is us. He doesn’t want anyone from D.C. to tell us differently. He gets the fact that there will be a vacuum in the near future. He wants us with our free will to fill it, not a political false prophet (Obama is plenty and all we can handle right now.)
ar05075 commented:
Jerry M
February 20th, 2010 | 9:01 pm | #88
I hope Beck’s rants against the GOP are intended to get their attention and nothing more. Like it or not, the only viable alternative to the radical progressivism of the Democrats now in power is the *Conservative VOTERS* in the Republican Party.
There, fixed it for ya.
Valerie commented:
Excellent speech, illuminating the best of the basic principles of the Republican party. Yeah, he gets after the Repubs, but he’s calling them to their best ideals.
This man has made a worthwhile contribution to the discussion about the future of this country, and I’m glad the link was included here so I could view it.
Jamie commented:
I thought his speach was fantastic. I don’t agree with how he is treating the people who want to see the original BC, but he gave a great speach. Made sense to me.
bg commented:
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archer52 @ 9:13 pm #90
huh?? GWB believed in Big Government??
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Ariel commented:
Glenn Beck takes the long view in looking at the present welfare state mentality.
Yes, of course Republicans helped in the bipartisan buildup of all these entitlements, helped Americans learn to feel entitlements were “normal.”
What, we’re supposed to think that today’s mess is some sudden condition brought about singlehandedly by O’Bummer?
Angela commented:
Jim, I really like this site, but I have to disagree with you on your assessment of Beck’s speech. I watched the whole entertaining, inspiring, and truth-filled thing and will watch it again, because I enjoyed it so much. You didn’t give him enough credit. He is hitting the nail squarely on the head, and, yes, the GOP does need a “come to Jesus” moment before we ever trust them again. It was a brilliant speech, and I’m disappointed that you did not reflect that in your comments. You put him down when he didn’t deserve it.
Ditto commented:
Oh and BigAlSouth…
Bite the f*ck out of me!
ar05075 commented:
bg
God Bless Rush….. we all have our heroes. What matters most is that truth is being stated.!!! Glenn is, in his own, giving conservative Americans another well deserved shot in the arm.
jjjjjjjjj commented:
When will Gay Beck bash the Democrat congress that has been in power for the past 3 years spending like crazy? What is his fascination with Republicns that are NOT even in office anymore?(they already got voted out in 2006 and 2008) where has that dumbass been, he can bash Republicans and complain about “Progressives” while he’s pandering to a crowd of raging homosexuals and 9/11 truthers, what a crock.
joseph commented:
Can America survive if the conservative vote is split with a Third Party ? Answer: No !
Can America survive if conservatives roll over and accept RINOs version of what the Republican Party should be ? Answer: No !
Will RINOs roll over if they are not faced with firm opposition from the TRUE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT? Answer: No!
Therefore true conservatives must put up firm and focused opposition to the Democrat Lites within the Republican Party and take over that institution. This is the first priority to control the party that can lead to success.
In the marginal cases where the Democrat Lites/RINOs attempt a fight back there should be a sensible analysis of whether or not conservatives can afford those Judas’ to put on the cloak worn by the Founding Fathers and Reagan. If not then a third Party candidate should be placed on the ballot.
Republicans cannot afford to go to the floor of the House with a slim majority not being sure whether or not they can trust one of their own members.
so cal chick commented:
Both parties… hmmm… not so fast…
c’mon out to the Union Controlled Democrat Destroyed state of California…
Jane commented:
Beck is an entertainer. He gets more press when he’s inflammatory. Don’t be gullible, conservative voters. Pundits, talk show hosts, bloggers, authors — they are not candidates and they are not the Republican party.
I used to love to watch Beck because he was one who wasn’t afraid to talk about all the Marxism/anti-Capitalism surrounding Obama, but he’s just gotten so unhinged and has started acting a big like the LittleGreenFootballs guy.
Jane commented:
I agree, Ditto.
Jane commented:
Well said, Joseph. If the Republican Party moves Left, our country is gone. That’s what happened in Western Europe, the Left captured all the major parties. Now the conservative parties are treated like second-class citizens and branded racists and Nazis.
retire05 commented:
Jim, I hope you read this. You just don’t get what Glen Beck is saying. And for all you defenders of George Bush, he was wonderful when it came to national defense and going after the bad guys (radical Islam) but as a Reagan Republican, he sucked at the national debt.
You see, I understand both sides. I was a Democrat until Reagan, and saw what a mess a progressive Democrat like Carter was making out of our county.
But as a Texan, I also understand, perhaps better than most of you, that Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” was not conservative. And don’t forget that Bush signed off on TARP, written by Democrats, pushed by Democrats and passed by Democrats. He could have vetoed TARP and let those banks fail. Other banks have failed in our time, and the world did not come to a crashing halt.
Listen to what Beck is saying before you condemn him. Really listen. We need to go back to our roots, to the Constitution. All this welfare, Social Security, Medicare, etc. they are all progressive policies that have done nothing, NOT ONE DAMN THING, to make our nation better.
We used to take care of each other. We used to help our neighbors out. Now we stick our elderly parents in some nursing home and forget them. We were duped into thinking government could solve all our problems. It can’t, and it won’t. We were told that Social Security would always be there for us, never being told that it was never intended to cover most of us, only those that managed to live beyond the average life span.
So Jim, I suggest you look beyond just the most recent votes of the GOP that may, or may not, have seen the error of their ways. Because frankly, you cannot remove what is already history and that is the GOP gained power and became the very spending gluttons that they have railed against for years. And ask yourself, why does the GOP still pander for the pork for their districts? Why don’t all of them sign the “no pork” pledge? Why don’t they demand that we uphold the Constitution by forcing a “Constitutional” requirement for every bill passed?
Government has become a leviathan that will rise up from the ashes to eat us, and Glen, and I know that.
joseph commented:
To show you how entrenched is the liberal mindset in the political world one of the quickest things to understand is the ubiquiteousness of the New York Times, a libral rag that can publish a complete clown like a Paul Krugman. I am making this point because of the significant angle brought up by Beck about “progressives” and the nature of the beast.
Listen to any conservative commentator and at some point in their show they quote the New York Times.
Every Republican Senator, Congressman or political operative throughout the 50 states probably has a subscription to that liberal rag – The New York Times.
When Sarah Palin was asked by that liberal plaything Couric about what newspapers or magazines she read, everyone thought Sarah was an uneducated countrygirl because she did not say “New York Times” off the top of her head. What she should have said is that “I read most relevant newspapers but definately NOT the New York Times”.
Rather than boycotting that rag , conservatives and especially RINOs continue the charade that liberal means smart and you must read the NYT.
I have not purchased that paper for over 1 year and I live in New York. I walk past news stands all over the city and refuse to waste my money.
Everyone reading this blog should commit themselves to passing the word that they do not read and want all conservatives to stop reading the New York Times. If 76% of Americans are conservative or moderate then a full boycott could cut the NYT’s circulation in half.
THAT would send the real chill down their collective spines.
Call the talk shows and tell Rush, Hannity, Levin, Beck, et al that this is the new conservative position.
No New York Times. Let the liberals/socialists/progressives buy their own papers.
joseph commented:
NEW YORK TIMES boycott.
Since this paper is the pinnacle of the liberal establishment a working boycott would send them all into a tailspin.
ar05075 commented:
jjjjjjjj
Is your stutter getting worse.??
shoey commented:
Bush and a Republican Congress passed the Medicare Drug extension, McCain’s hero is Teddy Roosevelt.
they have the disease.
Beck is right to blast the GOP.
I hope he keeps it up, I pray to God that he goes at it even harder.
if we can’t get the GOP to fight for smaller government we are all doomed.
no politican of either party has cut the size or spending habits of the national government since the 20′s.
i repeat, in being critical of the Repub. Party Beck is only doing what has to be done.
ar05075 commented:
#106
It’s a wonderful idea joseph, but Obama is already planning to bail out the NYT.
jjjjjjjjj commented:
#105
“Listen to what Beck is saying before you condemn him. Really listen. We need to go back to our roots, to the Constitution.”———-
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The Roots of Gayy Beck, Homos in the Constitution? How the Founders were secretly Gay. Listen now A CPAC, oh and how the Govt caused 9/11
joseph commented:
Maybe ar05075 but imagine the confusion if he tries that. All hell would break loose.
12,000,000+ unemployed would not be too happy bailing out fat cat liberals esconced in the Upper East Side.
Time to take the fight to them.
Boycott the New York Times.
I did it. It was a bit difficult at first but now like Beck did with alcohol I am a recovering New York Times reader !!
Plus at least 100 dollars richer.
jim commented:
Beck is a bigger blowhard than Obama, but the GOP merits a whole lot of criticizing. Eight years of a big-government compassionate dope followed by the pathetic candidacy of a straight-talking economic illiterate who rails against his own party while calling the opposition his “friends.”
But, boy oh boy, we’ve got some great Republican senators, don’t we?
KC Mike commented:
Beck is not talking about a 3rd party – he’s telling the GOP that they’re really no different when it comes to spending and they’re too chicken-sh*t to stand up against the pushy progressives. The GOP handed the election to Obamao – because they were weak and had lost their way.
Maybe they’ll grow a set and get back in the game – people like McCain are “talking” more conservative – but ONLY because he wants to get re-elected….then he’ll go right back to his “reaching across the aisle” CRAP!!
THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION WITH A DEM CONROLLED HOUSE, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE!!!
Scrapiron commented:
Beck has became a carbon copy of O’Dumbo, so wrapped up in his own importance (in his mind) that he’s a raving lunitic.
Rob De Witt commented:
I’m still stunned to hear people clamoring about “But we can’t win elections without compromise!”
It ain’t about elections, kids. It’s about The Government vs. the people. It’s about “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
I’m not talking to trolls like bjjj, because frankly those idiots are beneath my notice. That’s the 20 percent Beck mentions that has been allowed to control the discussion simply through stridency. Dealing With 2-Year-Olds 101 – the first thing to remember is that you’re in charge.
But to hear putative “conservatives” argue that winning elections for the Gassy Old Prunes is what’s most important is to realize that the Left has indeed infiltrated the national consciousness simply by its incessancy.
Look: I’m almost 65, and I was essentially orphaned by WWII. My father died in France before my birth, and my mother just didn’t survive it, despite living for another 50 years. Nobody never gave me nothing, but I’ve had a long, painful, difficult, rewarding and blessed life, for one reason only: I was lucky enough to be born in the only country in history that allowed me to make my own manifold mistakes and keep coming, as long as I had the balls to keep getting up. And I ain’t done yet.
Beck’s right, dammit. Pat Buchanan, of all people, wrote a long screed in the ’70s to the effect that Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society had created a permanent underclass in this country. He was scoffed at and roundly excoriated at the time, but history has proven him an optimist.
The only thing you give people when you don’t allow them to fail is the message that it’s OK to be helpless. And that resoundingly goes for the GOP.
Opus #6 commented:
I think that even most Beck listeners know that a 3rd party is the kiss of death.
Tea Party works as a group to influence both major parties. When voting, vote for the most conservative, constitution-loving candidate.
firstHat commented:
I (and it seems I’m not alone here) am getting very tired of the Republicans who want to ride on the wave of the tea parties, but don’t want to clean their own house of the clowns that helped get us into this mess. Glenn is right. We all need to admit we have a problem before we can fix it. (And this includes the tea parties themselves as demonstrated in the case of Medina).
Not once in that speech did GB say a thing about a third party. The only time I’ve ever heard him say anything about one was to ask Palin what she thought about the idea. I do believe he hopes that the teaparties, by maintaining a distance, may have a cleansing effect on both parties (and especially the republican party).
Look, one way the progressives have made such headway is by using what they understand is the “deconstructive” power of language. They understand that they can blur distinctions between differing sides by piling on descriptive terms that emphasize the few places where the two sides might appear to agree and at the same time polarizing in those areas where the two sides are different. What they leave us in the end is a “big tent” that contains only that which they’ve determined “we all can agree upon.” We have allowed them to define us.
The Tea parties, the 9.12 groups, this blessed movement has given us a way to recover a clearer definition of who we are as conservatives. For years we have been quietly sliding into an enchantment cast by progressives that threatened our very identity.
Glenn once suggested that the tea parties/ 9.12 groups have become something of a lobbying force. We have become the force to be reckoned with so that even if and when an only marginally good candidate (such as Christie in NJ) gets powered into office by the national party, we the people have some clout to hold his or her feet to the fire.
By being separate, by remembering who we are without the parties, we will force both the Republicans and Democrats to define themselves as either with or against us. At best the Republicans will remember who they are and return to Reagan (only better and stronger) and the Democrats will be forced to shift more to the conservative side.
Let’s hope for the best?
DamnObama commented:
The GOP deserves the be thrashed until it can no longer sit down. We can thank these complacent hacks for the election of this heartless, small-minded marxist moron and his Chicago knee-cappers. To hell with them all.
That said, no, no 3rd parties–unless we have a burning desire to throw what little freedom we have left away.
Robert commented:
Well I am certainly late to this party.
archer52 #90
Well said. Probably the best here tonight, in my opinion.
Opus #6 #117
Most insightful.
The idea would be to push not just the Republicans but also even the Democrats away from this creeping corrupting governmentalism. In all contests, “vote for the most conservative, constitution-loving candidate”, or the nearest to that which can be had. And ask the questions, put their feet to the fire. All of them. We could do much in this area at the local level, which would make a big difference.
Those who revere the Constitution and the wisdom of the founding fathers, not only in their rhetoric but in the legislation they propose and support, are the only ones who can be trusted to conduct this enterprise.
Not the best-looking.
Not the most well-spoken (look at us now)
Not even the most qualified. Not at this time.
And certainly not necessarily the most experienced.
The near battle, in fact hard upon us, is the current liberal-Democrat lunge for state/party power, typified by the longest-entrenched, and therefore most corrupted, liberal, Democrat, Representatives and Senators.
NOT as close at hand, are the so-called “moderate” Republicans who think government can do more than it can, who believe that their version of a huge government is superior to that of their political opponents. It is not, because a big powerful government is not superior to, nor conducive of, the freedom of the people.
The near battle must take precedent, or all is lost.
bg commented:
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retire05 @ 9:52 pm #105
i was a J & R F. Kennedy Dem until a few short weeks after 9/11..
been a Bush fan since then.. was also aware of how just about
everyone was against him, that includes quite a few the Reps..
Bush was like a lone salmon swimming up
a raging stream flanked by hungry bears..
i was not only surprised, but thankful he did
as well as he did under the circumstances..
God Bless Bush..
the last American President!!
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Logus commented:
Beck might not be perfectly on target, but his intent is sensible. When a sports team loses a game, the whole team takes the blame, not just the individuals who were the root causes for the loss.
You point out individuals and you weed out individuals, but you work on the team as a whole.
Or take the military. During basic, if one person messes up, the whole company pays for that one private’s mistake. The drill seargent disciplines the individual, but also the group to bring home the point of unity.
If the GOP wishes to succeed and moreso than that, regain real integrity and respect from their constituency and the independents, then they need to clean house.
Though there are many good Republicans, many are no doubt cowed by the elites and inner circle Republicans who control the purses, the campaigns and the machine. So, you rebuke them all.
Beck’s premise is correct. Besideswhich, we should not place a badge of honor to a political party as something worthwhile and get upset when a fellow conservative admonishes that party.
bg commented:
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jjjjjjjjjallucinogenic
rotflmbo!!
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Larry Sheldon commented:
I’ve not read any of the comments yet so some of this may have been covered–I don’t claim priority, I just claim an inability to get to sleep.
I don’t think I heard Beck say anything about a third party.
I heard Beck answer the problem I have to deal with which I will summarize]ze as the “well, you Republicans….debt up…taxes up, ….McCain yadayda yadq” problem.
Larry Sheldon commented:
Sent that somehow before I was readdy.
I agree with beck, it is not the Democrats, it is no Obama, it not Frank, Reid, or Pelosi.
It is what ever the grouping noun is–Beck says “progrtessives”, Rand called them “altruists”, God knows I don’t know what the right word is.
But itmis the big government, big taxes, redistrubitve, we know better than you folks, what ever they are called.
And the Republicans are certainly not big on answers that adress the problem.
Beck’s messagve is not to Republicans or anyother group maller that the whole of America.
America. It is time to sober up.
AtomicLibSmasher commented:
I like Beck okay, but did he REALLY need to bring the damn chalkboard??
Larry Sheldon commented:
I thought the chalkboard was a neat touch.
As a committed believer in chalkboards (“white boards” in an emergency), paper-on-easel pads, and 35mm slides when useful, I think it was a perfect ploy.
One of the minor reasons I like Beck.
But the reason I came back to comment was to ask: Exactly where was it that Beck said anything about Third parties?
Just_Saying commented:
I enjoyed Beck’s speech. He’s a very good speaker, isn’t it — with no teleprompters…
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Steve commented:
Beck was spot-on. The GOP needs to be “taken to the woodshed” for straying. Yes, third party would be a disaster and I suspect that, in the end it won’t happen. But Beck isn’t the problem, the GOP is. And if nobody else is going to hold the GOP accountable……this is what you get.
gary gulrud commented:
Government is not a solution, it’s the problem.
The GOP, 40% of Congress, has requested 40% of earmarks, this despite a few members refuse them, e.g., Bachmann.
The only way forward is challenging every such recalcitrant in primary and retiring those that reach the ballot in November by voting for third or fourth parties if not Donks.
The GOP leadership cannot be praised for mere partisanship, e.g., voting ‘en block’, without qualification.
Attacking entitlements, while the overwhelming problem, does not cure the patient if progressivism remains. We need to restore federalism.
BA commented:
“…personally I hate it when he constantly beats up on the GOP.”
I’m sure that any staunch Republican does at the very least cringe.
But honestly, can’t we agree that the Republicans don’t need a little nudge to the right, they need a serious shove to the right? If we ever expect them to be genuinely conservative they have to know that the right would actually back spending cuts, elimination of the Dept of Ed, the hard, truly conservative actions necessary.
After the McCain debacle, how can anyone expect those of us who really hated voting for him to not demand less of the “moderate” garbage.
And the current trend with Rubio as an example suggests it will work.
PS I am not a “birther” but I don’t like the right’s stance that birthers are “fringe” and we can’t be associated with those types. My word, the Democrats are practically nothing but “fringe” groups and it doesn’t seem to hurt them! And I don’t happen to think wanting to see Obama’s full, complete records is a “fringe” idea.
BA commented:
bg…”Bush was like a lone salmon swimming up
a raging stream flanked by hungry bears..
i was not only surprised, but thankful he did
as well as he did under the circumstances..
God Bless Bush…”
I second that.
el Taoseno commented:
Beck is a bit too much of a ranter, in my view, but he’s not wrong to criticize the GOP. Too many of them are just Dem pols “light”. After all, it was Tom DeLay and his pals…and George Bush refusing to be the adult in charge…that put the Dems back in place to ruin the country. Many Republicans are only marginally better than those on the other side of the aisle. Until that changes, we’re all in danger.
Militant Conservative commented:
Some of you are not engaged enought to know Beck obviously, I remember a show lately he said first term of Bush was good. It was. Then he spent like a mad man expanded prescription drug program and made Homeland Security (grew gov) and stimulus package. All of which I did not want. Then came Barry to spend even more. This does not work. He’s right about the progressive’s in both parties, mostly in the Democrat side but WE ALL KNOW OF Alot of RINOS (progressives). John McCain,Cynthia Snow,Arlin Spectere, there’s more. TPM is about getting GOOD conservatives elected AND taking over the Republican party from within. Perfectly good vehicle with a bad engine and flat tires. Throw out the trash keep some of the good one’s. Be very selective. powder is dry
Militant Conservative commented:
bg,
didn’t know you were a recovering Democrat?
welcome to the conservative movement.
BigAlSouth commented:
Ditto
February 20th, 2010 | 9:21 pm | #97
Oh and BigAlSouth…
Bite the f*ck out of me!
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Well, Captain Ahab, why would I want to do that?
archer52 commented:
bg,
GWB absolutely believed in big government. His twist was called “compassionate conservatism”. His theory was that a government does have a place in people’s lives IF run by the right people with “good intentions”. He wanted government money inside private religious organizations (a good theory but why not REMOVE the government from all of their meddling period, rather than unintentionally undermine charities? Mindset, mindset..) No child left behind was a compromise GWB made with Ted Kennedy. Really? Can you deal with the devil and not get scorched by the fire? Why didn’t Bush attack the real problem the HUGE influence the unions have over the poor performance of a student. Cut right to the chase, fight to eliminate the Department of Education and put control of curriculum back into the local school board’s hands. Do you want fifteen people in Texas to decide what a history book will say to all the country’s students? (One text stops calling us American citizens and starts using “global citizens”. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=124715)
GWB was far too eager to allow growth of government. I have a theory that he traded a free hand in the wars for looking the other way on spending and monetary policy. The Dems were more than happy to bitch openly but quietly allowing his agenda to go forth because of the huge payday coming for them. (They gained a super majority in the Senate after all!) Where was GWB? Did he rail or argue or put his foot down when the growth continued?
No. Maybe if there was no 9-11. But who knows. It must not have been part of his core beliefs if he abandoned it so easily.
I stand by my opinion on GWB. Nice guy, an act of God he won rather than Al Gore because of 9-11. But he was not a small government man. He did not see the dangers, nor did his dad (remember “voodoo economics”?) or even his brother Jeb. He just thought he could do it differently.
retire05 commented:
bg, #126, yes, of course, God bless President Bush. He did his best to protect us from the ONE most serious threat we have to this nation, radical Islam. For you see, if we have bombs going off in our country, nothing else will matter. Not unemployment, not the economy, nothing.
My problem with Jim’s entry is that he doesn’t want Glen Beck to rail so hard on the GOP. But why shouldn’t Beck rail on them? Who was he speaking to? It sure the hell wasn’t a room full of liberals who vote for Democrats. It was a room full of conservatives who primarily vote Republican. He was telling them to hold their own responsible. He was telling them to make their own clean up their act. He was telling them to demand that their own start adhering to the Constitution.
Have you forgotten the very bill that created so much furor that the Congressional switch board was shut down on overload? Have you forgotten the Shamnesty Bill? Have you forgotten WHO was behind that bill; Lindsay Graham, John McCain an yes, George Bush? Have you forgotten what was in that bill?
We MUST clean our own yards before we start demanding the Democrats clean theirs. We cannot say to the Democrats “You do not act in the best interest of the nation” while Republicans feed at the pork barrel trough, while Repbulicans try to shove through bills like the Shamnesty Bill, while Republicans refuse to push for a bill that would require a Constitutional litmus test to every damn bill that is passed.
Glen did not mention a 3rd party. I don’t think he even thinks a 3rd party is viable. Neither do I, but I think it is time we stop accepting the actions of our guys simply because they have an (R) behind their names.
So if Beck can put enough pressure on the GOP to clean up it’s own act, I am solidly behind him.
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
jjjjjjjjj
February 20th, 2010 | 10:17 pm | #111
#105
“Listen to what Beck is saying before you condemn him. Really listen. We need to go back to our roots, to the Constitution.”———-
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The Roots of Gayy Beck, Homos in the Constitution? How the Founders were secretly Gay. Listen now A CPAC, oh and how the Govt caused 9/11
JJJJJJ, It must be really rough to be 13 years old and gay. Perhaps counselling with help.
I see 13 year old, gay stupid people.
Hanson commented:
Beck’s speech was a great one!! His humor carried the day. He said many more negative things about progressives although he rightfully bashed both political parties’ faults. I’m actually glad that I do not agree with everything he says. It can become a detriment to clear thinking to side with any one person completely. I need to think through ideas and opinions— not just accept everything verbatim.
Thank God for Beck and his patriotism. He continues to spark my enthusiasm and commitment to being a thinking, God-fearing, freedom loving, Constitution supporting, free enterprise, Conservative American. Listen to or read the whole speech yourself–make your own judgement!!
USMC commented:
Beck has said many times he wants to see the GOP return to the Constitution. He also said once he talks the way he does to “scare the GOP”.
It’s working. It amazes me some of you still defend that idiot Bush. Have you forgotten how much Islamic ass Bush kissed?
Have you forgotten how he allowed Senators and Representatives to aid and abet the enemy by their trashing of our troops?
My how short are your memories. Although the ROEs weren’t as stringent as Obama’s they still were pretty bad in some cases.
I’ll ask you GOP die hards what do we do if the GOP doesn’t change? If it still goes the way of McCain, Graham and McConnell. What do we do?
None of you can ever answer that.
Beck’s point is this. Why didn’t those same Hose Republicans go against Bush when he was spending like crazy?
The Contract to America was supposed to shutdown 5 departments! FIVE!! Well, what happened with all those years in power?
We created a massive new department called Homeland Security. Some of you need to realize this GOP is run by idiots and elitists.
Again, what do we do if Steele and the rest don’t change directions? What do we do?
daryl commented:
“Again, what do we do if Steele and the rest don’t change directions? What do we do?”
Vote Republican!
The alternative is alive and well, living in the WhiteHouse, and still trying to drag the country down with his pathetic administration
bg commented:
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retire05 @ 8:10 am #139
&
retire05 @ 8:10 am #139
no, i haven’t forgotten.. and i see your points,
and where your opinions derive from & why..
however, i didn’t drink the MSM & Dem koolaid & understood what Bush was trying to do with what he had to work with/against.. and lest not forget who owns the purse strings, which is why he ahd to do some things that appeared to be BIG GOV (in comparison to Obama’s, not so big), in order to get what he needed..
can’t recall it verbatim, but my favorite thing Bush said was something about doing the right thing even if it cost him gis political career.. not that the MSM allowed him to have one, but alas, not that he cared made it all the sweeter..
at any rate, we’re all entitled to see things from different
perspectives, well.. for the time being anyways, thanks..
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texas commented:
Meh! My opinion about Glenn Beck’s speech – minus the Bush bashing, minus the Republican bashing, minus the “I was a drunk… blah blah”, minus the ego…. it was a pretty good speech.
Glenn Beck should have left his ego at the door and gave a more inspirational, Conservative speech … but I don’t think he has it in him! I am starting to wonder these days what his REAL agenda is…. just sayin’.
Jerry M commented:
All of you Bush bashers need to remember that perhaps the most significant thing he did in his otherwise not very good second term was appoint Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court maintaining a center right court rather than a far left court which would make very liberal decisions effecting generations to come. Some of you sound like Democrats with BDS. Bush did some things many of us conservatives were disgusted with, but, on balance he wasn’t anywhere in the ball park with this pathetic joke we have for President now. Even though Bush is not running for anything, some Democrats are continuing a strategy of running against him. Let’s not help them. Our entire focus should be on and our support should be for Republican candidates who are running for office now and who embrace conservative values. Get over the past about which you can do nothing and look to the future upon whih you can have a major impact.
greenfairie commented:
All I can say about Beck’s speech…it needed to be said.
The GOP is worthless if it doesn’t stand for something and follows through on it. It’s easy for the Republican minority, or at least most of them most of the time, to oppose the left’s agenda. It’s quite another thing once they’re the ones setting the agenda. What we saw during the ’00s bore that out and now we have Socialists running our Congress.
We have to hold our guys’ feet to the fire or they just act like Diet Democratic-Socialists, voting for bacon for their districts and expanding the role of government and preening for the MSM.
avery commented:
Texas:Monday through Friday tune in at 5,on Fox,and you will find out what Glen is about.
AtomicLibSmasher commented:
Exactly where was it that Beck said anything about Third parties?
He didn’t this time as far as I saw. He did give a good history lesson where we were in the 1920′s and where we seem to be crawling back, which I appreciated because it gave perspective. Not a big fan of Beck’s (I prefer Rush and Levin personally) but maybe I’ll tune into more of his show on FNC if I’m home at the time.
But he’s right, the GOP does need a kick in the pants and they need to know that we are gonna hold ALL politicians accountable.
bg commented:
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texas @ 10:20 am #146
i still agree with the pro-Beck opinions.. but i agree with you about his ego.. after a while i just could not listen to him anymore because he sounded just like those Senators who, instead of addressing the people’s business, not only get up to the podium and make long winded speeches about their own lives, but go on & on paying their respects to their dear colleagues.. gah!!
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M.Mitchell commented:
Glen Beck is right. There are Progressives in both parties. For too long many of us have sat back and done nothing as many of our rights were slowly taken away from us under the guise that it is for our own good.
Now is the time for everyone to sit down and read the Consitution and realize how far we have strayed from what our Founding Fathers wanted and fought for.
Opinionator commented:
Glenn was spot on. To paraphrase, ‘it’s not good enough to be just a little less cr**py than the other guy.’
I listen to Glenn every day and at no time has he ever suggested a third party alternative or panacea. Nor did he in this speech. (Jim??)
But We the People WILL be cleaning house on both sides of the aisle for some time to come.
Glenn is also absolutely correct in repeatedly using his alcoholic analogy. We’ve been on Big Government crack for far too long and we ‘are’ now paying the price. Hard, painful work is before us.
I would be utterly demoralized if it weren’t for my belief in my country and Americans. We can accomplish anything we set our minds to do.
A return to the Constitution and our Founders’ principles is the only way to right our ship of state. And that means ALL of it, including those two requirements for acting as U.S. President.
As a J.D., I can tell you there are several compelling legal arguments as to why Obama does not meet the natural born citizen requirement. Challenges to date have fallen short due to ‘standing’/procedural issues. Another tack is now being pursued: quo warranto proceedings in the District of Columbia led by Leo Donofrio. If there ever comes a day that Obama’s records – ALL of them – are examined by a court of law, I’m quite sure we’ll learn that the darkest day in our nation’s history was the day this fraud took the oath of office – and set out to destroy us.
ALL of our most basic Constitutional protections must be enforced. Period. And no, I’m not a crazy fringer for saying so.
On that point I part ways with Beck. It’s okay. I can live with it. For we need Beck to help wake up the sleeping giant. I have hope I didn’t have a year ago. We the People will
prevail. Why? Because the alternatives are simply not acceptable; because we must!