Obama Takes Expensive Green Jobs Message to Hard-Hit Ohio
Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, January 22, 2010, 4:43 AM
Barack Obama will bring his green jobs message to hard-hit Ohio today. The president will push government-funded green jobs to the depressed communities. These jobs aren’t cheap. The Center for American Progress estimated that federal outlays of $100 billion over a two year period would create two million green jobs, or roughly one new position for every $50,000 spent by taxpayers. But that’s never stopped Obama before. Why should it stop him now?
The AP reported:
President Barack Obama is telling voters in Ohio, already wracked by high unemployment, that investments in clean-energy technologies will help boost the nation’s economy.
Obama planned to use his visit Friday to test-drive an aggressive populist push on jobs, a top concern for voters across the country as the White House begins a message shift heading into fall elections expected to be difficult for Democrats.
Obama was meeting with voters in the northeast part of Ohio, where steel mills have given way to rust. Statewide, unemployment stands at 10.6 percent.
A town hall session was on Obama’s public schedule at Lorain County Community College, near Cleveland. He was last in the county ahead of the state’s March 2008 presidential primary, when he delivered a speech on the economy at a drywall factory that closed two months later.
Obama was expected to note such challenges as he spends a day in the state that delivered him a victory in his 2008 campaign but is shaping up to be a tough haul heading into elections for an open Senate seat and the governor’s office as well as the House delegation.
Officials are tinkering with a revamped Obama message in the face of a potentially disastrous political shift that, on Tuesday, elected Massachusetts Republican state Sen. Scott Brown to the U.S. Senate in a seat long occupied by the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy.
Obama looked to Ohio to reset his record with a campaign-style day, complete with a tour of a wind turbine plant and visits with local leaders. He also sought to harness the energy of the campaign trail that he mastered during a two-year campaign for president.
Obama will likely omit the fact that for every new job sustained by subsidized renewable energy at least 2.2 are lost in other industries.
And, let’s hope the wind turbines are less expensive than the solar panels he’s promoted that will take 110 years to pay for themselves.
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BigAlSouth commented:
Green Jobs. Another fantasy from the Presidential Fantasist.
This worked so well in Spain. http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/13/spains-green-jobs-boondoggle/
Our idiot Governor in North Carolina is just convinced that “Green Jobs” are the answer to the state’s historically high unemployment. When this fails, they will fall back on their failure to “properly frame the message.”
manateespirit commented:
Some more facts regarding Spain’s move into green energy:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/green_jobs_fasttracking_econom.html
This reminds me of the health care debate. We can look at England and Canada, note the problems, learn from them AND NOT REPEAT AND IMPLEMENT the problems from these countries. Same goes for green energy.
Is the cost associated with green energy, both in terms of implementing and job losses it creates worth it in the long run? That’s the question no one wants to answer or look at with critical minds…all I see are agendas and questionable data toting the benefits of green energy while downplaying the huge change it would cause in the economy and cost…hmmm.
It IS wonderful to be energy concious and pollution free and all that. But how can we do it, or can we do it, without destroying the economy? Am I missing something here?
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Hedgehog commented:
This is not about anything more than enlarging the government. Where in the Constitution does it say that the govenrment should be in the business of producing wind turbines and solar panels. This is about creating govenrment jobs, not energy efficiency, just like the health care monster was about creating a huge gevernment bureaucracy to administer the health care industry. And these government jobs will all be union jobs, most likely SEIU. This has SCAM written all over it. The Progies know that they are selling another skunk, but they have to keep moving. The Health Care scam didn’t work, so now they have to try something else.
I can’t wait to see how Van Jones figures into this. Isn’t he working at Center For American Progress?
On Tuesday night the Oval Office must have looked like Delta House after Dean Wormer dropped the bomb. So the boyos came up with “a really futile and stupid gesture”, and they are “going Populist”.
Daniel commented:
Exactly how is a “community organizer” anything close to an economist or macroeconomics wizard?
Why does anyone even listen to this … person?
NeoKong commented:
HedgehogNo Gravatar
January 22nd, 2010 | 6:52 am | #4
Did they give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor….?
avery commented:
This is more money for G.E.and S,E.I.U.it look like his Green jobs maybe he will still try to pass Cap and Tax.It look like he Hell bent on destory this country.Let privaty company produce these job if they so Great.They away give these jobs to their friends.
Ben White commented:
Let them eat cake.
Pawn commented:
Train wreck in progress. Off the rails but it’s still moving. Brace for impact.
KR commented:
There was a local news story of a small bio diesel company (turning used cooking oil to fuel) which may go out of business because congress didn’t renew their tax credit/rebate status. Congress has been too busy with the healthcare bill.
And for all the talk of promoting alternative fuels, they couldn’t take a little time…
USMC Thomas commented:
Would those be called “BLOWHARD” jobs?
seven commented:
Obama the deciever. Now wiki defines green jobs to include agriculture. We have had green jobs since before America was discovered. Every farmer that climbs on his tractor will be labeled as a green job saved by the ONE.
We have had hardware stores sell insulation and windows for years. Paying some druggie union worker to do it for 4,000 dollars a house is wrong. Vestes, GE Siemens and other wind generating industry companies have ALL had layoffs last year. Wind electric is expensive and totally dependent of gubment welfare and subsidy.
Deloras Vind commented:
This push for wind energy is a poor substitute for fossil fuels. In fact wind turbines require fossil fuel ie coal plants to run continuously since they must be available for when the wind is not blowing at the right speed for the turbine to produce electricity. So it is redundant and therefore useless and very expensive for the tax and rate payer. The wind industry in New York requires a 19% increase in rates just this year alone.
Plus industrial wind turbine facilities require thousands or acres of land plummeting property values and causing noise and sleepless nights and deteriorating quality of life issues.
These are snake oil salesmen at their best.
Wake up to the truth at: http://www.betterplan.squarespace.com
Moright commented:
Yup, enlarging government and stuffing cash in the pockets of the well-connected. Follow Missouri’s Wind Capital Group experience to see how it’s done. Run by the brother of Congressman R. Carnahan, Wind Capital is in line for $90 million in fed. stimulus funds and has rec’d $240 million in loan guarentees based on the fact that goverment will build necessary transmission lines. CEO and founder Tom Carnahan, who’s brother is the US Congressman and sister will run for Senate 2010, flat out says that wind looks like a “good bet” with Crap and Tax bill passage. Biden came to MO in April for announcement/ribbon cutting of Wind Cap’s big project. Doesn’t smell too good from here. Follow at http://www.24thstate.com/page/4/ and company website.
IOpian commented:
This administration knows how to double down on dumb. Most of these jobs ‘not saved’ were not ‘green jobs’, whatever the hell that is. The only ‘green’ people are interested in is the kind they can deposit in a bank so they write checks to pay their bills. We are in dire straits and now is not the time for a trial test of new social theories.
This will be strike two, strike three will be in 2012.
Lynn commented:
Obama just thinks because the House of Reps (pelosi) gave Kaptur 3.4 billion to buy her vote for Cap and Trade, he is going to make a big impact in OH. Small business is the backbone of OH economy. He and his Congress have done a huge amount of damage in OH to business and quality of life issues.
jim from cleveland commented:
I’m sure hometown lefty Sherrod Brown will make sure there’s an audience of union flunkies and acorn parasites hooting and hollering for the Blowhard’s platitudes. The only place Barry can show his face is among an audience who has been paid their Obama Money.
How do you like your affirmative-action messiah now, America?
crystal commented:
Climategate: CRU Was But the Tip of the Iceberg
“Not surprisingly, the blatant corruption exposed at Britain’s premiere climate institute was not contained within the nation’s borders.
Just months after the Climategate
scandal broke, a new study has uncovered compelling evidence that our government’s principal climate centers have also been manipulating worldwide temperature data in order to fraudulently advance the global warming political agenda.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/climategate_cru_was_but_the_ti.html
shibumi commented:
Our governor in Michigan is also a fan of this fantasy. Such stupid, stupid people.
David Spence commented:
Nice work Einstein-We don’t have any jobs and you want to limit them to a certain color. You can’t build any reasonable economy on “green jobs,” windmills or those cars modeled on the ones driven by the Jetsons.
bobc commented:
Green jobs were promised to the Brits, that they would be their salvation!
Then they laid off all their workers, and shipped the jobs to China!
One company here has already done that..and those wind mills being put up in Tx., are made in China!
WE have oil, natural gas, & coal….stop denying us access to our own resources, while you elite work on which alternative is best!
Patrick Kennedy was just in W.Va., spouting off about coal…..the miners are furious!
wanumba commented:
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Hedgehog
January 22nd, 2010 | 6:52 am | #5
This is not about anything more than enlarging the government. Where in the Constitution does it say that the govenrment should be in the business of producing wind turbines and solar panels. This is about creating govenrment jobs, not energy efficiency, just like the health care monster was about creating a huge gevernment bureaucracy to administer the health care industry. And these government jobs will all be union jobs, most likely SEIU. This has SCAM written all over it
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“The president will push government-funded green jobs to the depressed communities”
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Proof:
Obama said “redistribution,” in fact he has said it for years. Van Jones, the self-professed communist chosen by Obama to be the un-vetted “Green Czar” said “Green Jobs” for the cities and “redistribution” in practically the same paragraph.
Solar and Green are all government-subsidized or wholly tax-funded. It’s Socialism. Or as the Wall Street Journal article described yesterday, “The Machine” – the Union, since Big Labor is poised to be the manager of the “green” workforce.
BarbaraS commented:
This clueless windbag is going to speak at some depressed area one too many times and find himself being tarred and feathered or worse if he doesn’t watch out. There is only so much desperate people will take without retaiiating.
Lynn commented:
Obama’s visit was going to be livestreamed, not happening yet.
thomas b. commented:
How the heck does obama expect to create jobs that lead to a recovery when he hasn’t proposed one idea that would encourage broad based job creation?!!!
In fact, his ideas are the reason for broad based job destruction. The green jobs idea is just one. Loading the majority of businesses with burdens will not encourage them to hire employees.
Without broad based employment gains, there won’t be enough new consumers or income to support any type of recovery. Instead obama seeks to only help an extremely small segment of employers, who cannot possible hire enough employees to affect an employment recovery and economic recovery. And he is spending hundreds of billions to do it. Insane. This guy needs to get kicked out of office.
befuddled commented:
mmmmm mmmmm is there anything that will loot the treasury that this obama guy wont leech onto. global warming and now “green jobs”, please. how about nuclear energy, good paying jobs there. oh wait, not enough minority participation. well, how about putting it in central losangeles. i dont give a damn where they put it or who they hire, but business need cheap electricity so they can put that money to hiring more people. oh my goodness, please some common sense in the white house for a change. no more elitists lawyers that the msm swoons over. i want a hockey mom, she cant do any worse than the pair of job killers obama and biden. and for God sake, stop telling me Michelle is the reincarnation of jackie.
Major Kong commented:
Dear Leader is going to make Jimmy Carter’s presidency look like fantastic when compared to the spectacular failure he is producing.
More yakity yak from this marxist flak!
avery commented:
“Green Jobs”Fast tracking to Economic Suicide.
Chisum commented:
Apparently BO thought he was in Michigan. He’s the smartest man in the world, donchaknow.
Obama’s Town Hall In Ohio
It just wrapped up so I’m testing the better late than never theory but it was…awful. The speech was disjointed, flat in a lot of spots and just, well, a mess. If this Obama ran in 08 McCain (or Hillary) would have beaten him. Easily.
At one point Obama said, “here in Michigan” alas it was in Ohio. No problem though, it’s not like those two states are rivals or anything.
Then it got really bad.
http://minx.cc/?post=297350