Tea Party Movement Now More Popular Than Dem or Republican Parties
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, December 17, 2009, 5:02 AM
The Obama-Pelosi-Reid socialist democrats now rank lower than the Republican Party and the Tea Party Movement.
MSNBC reported:
Just how angry is the public with the country’s two leading political parties? Angry enough that the conservative, libertarian-leaning Tea Party movement is more popular than either the Democratic or the Republican parties, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
The Republican Party maintains its net-negative favorable/unfavorable rating in the poll, with 28 percent viewing it positively and 43 percent seeing it in a negative light.
For the first time in more than two years, the Democratic Party also now holds a net-negative fav/unfav, at 35-45 percent.
By comparison, the NBC/WSJ poll shows the Tea Party movement with a net-positive 41-23 percent score.
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manateespirit commented:
Wow! Are those people polled domestic terrorists like me…pro-life, pro-gun, pro-Constitution, PRO-AMERICAN?
Do you think perhaps the liberal commentators dismissed us too early? Maybe we’re not as stupid as they told us we were….and the rest of America is finally catching on as well. Perhaps if the pundits had studied history and really understood what led up to the actual tea parties and the passion of the rebellion, they would have taken us seriously.
Maybe the ugly terms the intellectuals used for tea partiers have backfired. It will be interesting to watch what develops next year.
Chris Vehr commented:
Just wait til Sarah Palin makes the switch. She will leave the Republican Party and declare herself an independent. It WILL happen. All the Tea Party needs is a recognizable leader. Ron Paul, despite being a genius, is not the one.
kate commented:
“Republicans” will be the 3rd party. What’s we see happening now is the American Party.
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Winghunter commented:
The only things that separate Conservatives from Libertarians are knowing the line which can’t be crossed with individual rights and pipe dreams chased.
The Tea Party is NOT “Libertarian Leaning”. That is a Liberal tactic of claiming the winning side based on no shred of fact…I know I’ve heard that stated as being the act of a scoundrel and therefore help others put the Liberal in Libertarian.
No Man commented:
No man can understand any move in momentum away from statist, collectivist deconstruction and back to individual responsibility and enlightened self-interest.
B/C (not Before Christ) we (noit Obama, Pelosi, Reid, FWank) know how beneficial collectivization has been every where it was foisted on the unsuspecting victims, e.g., Mugabe/Zimbabwe.
Tom63010 commented:
What needs to be done is take back the Republican Party. The MSM sees this as an opportunity for conservatives to abandon the GOP just like they have abandoned our principles so now they are encouraging the rift.
All that creating a Tea Party Party or by any other by another name would do is siphon off votes from the Republican Party candidate. Can’t we learn from history? Remember Ross Perot? At this point in time I would welcome having Ross Perot as our president compared to President Obama his fiscal conservative principles should would be good now.
There is just as big a rift in the Democrat Party right now with the liberals but don’t hold your breath on that being covered and the MSM would certainly not suggest creating a separate party.
I supported Doug Hoffman for NY-23 because we needed to send a message to the RNC that we definitely do not want liberals in our party while moderates are barely tolerable and both are usually unelectable. I believe the message was delivered, we’ll see if the local Republican Party has Doug as their candidate this November. Should be an easy win unless they mess it up.
I certainly don’t want the Republican brand to become one that liberal and moderates are no longer the definition of a RINO and a conservative is.
Political suicide to make a point is still suicide. Let’s continue to bring back the Republican party through persuasion exhorting it to go back to the conservative principles of the wildly popular Ronald Reagan.
When I talk to people who vote Democrat I am amazed how many are actually conservatives. When I discuss Ronald Reagan I have yet to hear hear someone say a mean thing about him. The only negative I always hear is that he had deficits. That is mostly a non-issue these days as they see the man they voted for put us in a financial hole we all have no clue how we will get out of.
Tom63010 commented:
Shouldn’t get in such a hurry. Sorry about the post. Hope you get my message.
Joan of Argghh! commented:
We NEED a third party and this proves it. Even if you throw some bums out, the freshmen GOP get wined and dined and dazzled by all the perqs and drawn into the cabal of influence and power. It’s heady stuff and apparently irresistible and blackmail prone.
“The Firm” would be a better name for the GOP.
Joan of Argghh! commented:
Actually, “The Firm” would be a more accurate description of our entire government. Unfortunately, there is no opposing firm to represent the defendants. And yes, our legislators have turned tax payers into defendants.
We need a new Whiskey Rebellion. Put a little kick in the Tea Party!
Bill MItchell commented:
Well, if the Republican Leadership is smart, this will scare them into going right with their candidate selections.
If the tea-partiers are smart, they will use their leverage to force the Republican Party right.
If we are all drooling idiots, the Tea-Party will run as a 3rd party and we will hand minority victories to Democrats everywhere.
I sincerely fear this outcome.
Bill MItchell commented:
Anyone who claims that America NEEDS a Third Party which will effectively split Republican votes is a COMPLETE IDIOT!
Sorry, but you will just hand victories to Democrats with only 30% of the vote.
DO NOT do this. DO NOT DO THIS!
BackwardsBoy commented:
It was inevitable that the country would swing back towards conservatism after witnessing all the failures of a liberal, leftist administration. However, we musn’t forget that the MSM is not on our side and any seemingly positive news about the rise of conservatism may have an ulterior motive behind it, namely to dilute Republican votes and thereby hand a win to Dems.
We must become such a powerful force that the GOP leadership cannot ignore us as they have done in the past. Squishy, reach-across-the-aisle moderate candidates are what got the country in the mess it’s in today. What’s needed is a message of calm strength and common sense solutions to issues that benefit all Americans, not just special interest groups.
The GOP will follow if we show them the way. It happened in the NY 23 race. Party leaders realized their mistake in backing a liberal candidate, only a little too late. I think they learned their lesson and could now be waiting to see which way the winds of public opinion blow.
Hedgehog commented:
They called us “Teabaggers” until it became useful to encourage a split with Republicans. Keep your powder dry. They are trying to divide and conquer.
Gail F commented:
Count me as one of these folks. I was a registered independent until I moved to a state where one has to declare a party to be able to vote in the primaries, then I registered as a Democrat. That was more than two decades ago, and while the Democrats have gotten progressively nuttier every year, I can’t call myself a Republican either. I don’t think that the Reagan years were a Golden Age (although he did get a lot of things right), I thought and still think that Gingrich, Dole, and their sanctimonious claims to be more moral (!) were ridiculous considering their personal lives and many scandals during the administration, I think that in many respects we were a lot better off under Clinton than under the second Bush — I can’t understand why anyone would ever have voted for him — and I think that the second Bush administration ruined our economy and certainly mismanaged the war.
But the Democrats? Please! This frightening grab at total power and the disgusting attempts to devalue life have nothing to do with the party’s old aim of helping the poor, the minority, and the powerless. They are frauds and hypocrites.
I have only been able to make it to one Tea Party event, but I consider myself a supporter. I want a different government and I want people in charge who KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING, something we’ve seen precious little of in recent administrations of BOTH parties. Although I’m registered as a Democrat, I’m not a Democrat, but I’m not a Republican either and I won’t become one unless they reform their party into something decent.
Agent99 commented:
Tom and Bill Mitchell ….. I share your concerns. Plez do NOT do this….Ensures Dems will remain in Power…
TeaPartychamp commented:
Just because another party is formed to support a set of ideals, doesn’t mean they always would run their own candidate. If another party would support those ideals, the Tea Party could shift support. Still hold your party affiliation, but beat opposing candidates.
Gary Gross commented:
I write here about the impact the TEA Party Movement will have in 2010.
If anything, momentum is increasing within the TEA Party Movement.
Rick Moore commented:
I’m becoming very suspicious of all these polls that are suddenly out now showing a “Tea Party” in comparison to the GOP and Dems. I don’t think it’s all that paranoid to suspect that this is a campaign on the part of Dems to create enthusiasm for a third party that will split off a certain percentage of Republicans and guarantee Democrat victories forever.
Ladue Pundit commented:
The MSM is now feigning respect for the “Tea” party.
This, for all of you 3rd Party promoters, should be a huge clue.
The Tea Party does not exist. Conservative candidates, mostly Republicans and Independents, do.
DO NOT support the RNC; send your money to individuals who will support our constitution and love this republic. We have to go with something that is turn-key; don’t let the Tea Party be just another voting option that allows people, blinded by party loyalty, elect imposters. Would you vote for a Chuck Schumer if he ran as a Tea Party member?
A lot of new faces will be on the 2010 political scene trying to be elected as reformers. They need to be carefully vetted.
Sandy commented:
I heard the Tea Party movement is receiving tons of money. Now who stands the most to gain if Tea Party candidates run a candidate–the very people we are trying to defeat. So many people still believe that if we throw all the bums out we will get better people to serve the electorate–when all we will be getting is the same tired retreads we are trying to defeat. Isn’t this how Obama won?
Sandy commented:
The Obama media who has vehemently attacked the Tea Party Movement will now promote it against the Republicans. The fact that this report came from MSNBC says it all.
Chisum commented:
Obama panics on Obamacare
First we had Al Gore saying the ice will all melt in 5 years.
Now we have President Obama saying the nation will go bankrupt if we don’t pass Obamacare.
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/6016
spayandneuter commented:
“Joan of Argghh!
December 17th, 2009 | 7:19 am | #10
Actually, “The Firm” would be a more accurate description of our entire government. ”
There’s an old expression that the government has forgotten (or maybe just doesn’t care) but it is:
“DON’T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!”
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Sandy commented:
New York 23 where they ran a Republican who supported Obama against a Conservative. The winner of the race was the Dem Owens who promised not to vote for the Healthcare Bill. One hour after winning he declared he would vote for the Healthcare Bill.
spayandneuter commented:
“Gail F
December 17th, 2009 | 8:10 am | #15 ”
I don’t know what I am anymore either. I campaigned for JFK and had always considered myself a Democrat, but voted for whoever I thought was the best candidate. I think President Bush was able to comprehend and deal with the evil that some men possess.
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Sandy commented:
You guys in this blog really get it. How can we convince people that if we throw the bums out by voting third party we get the same bums back in?
Bob commented:
If there is a third party the democrats win. Lets just vote in conservatives
Tom63010 commented:
Gail F, I obviously don’t know your age so I don’t know your historical perspective. I just turned 50 so I started my career at the tail end of the Carter Administration. I remember the 70% tax rate, no I was never in that bracket but I was one who worked extra overtime just to have it all go to taxes because of the ridiculous amount of tax brackets. I remember the 18% mortgage rates, I remember getting a 15% cost of living increase, and the misery index.
The Congress sets the budget. Carter had a Democrat controlled Congress not until Obama, had one party controlled the White House and the other controlled congress and checks and balances worked.
If the Senate worked on a simple majority to pass legislation God know where we would be now!
With the Carter Administration and the Obama Administration the Democrats control both the White House and the Congress. Here are the other commonalities:
Military Spending Decreases
Federal Government Expands
Federal Government Enacts More Control
Entitlement Programs Grows
Taxes Increase
The Economy Weakens
Our Enemies are Emboldened
Negotiations are Made From Weakness
Jimmy Carter seems to be a genuine buffoon based on his opinions he has expressed since his term.
Barack Obama is something much more dangerous. He is trying to change our country into what he and this congress envision it should be. A large bureaucracy that takes money from the rich and gives to the poor.
Some people compare that to Robin Hood. I find that laughable because the story of Robin Hood is about a government that was overtaxing and oppressing their citizens not a bunch of rich people stealing from the poor people. I guess in a way they are actually correct only they want to be the wrong character.
He has a major hurdle and that is the Constitution, which he described as restrictive. If one of these unconstitutional laws is enacted, such as mandating a private citizen to buy Health Insurance or go to jail, and it is ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court God help us!
Let us hope it does not come to that.
spayandneuter commented:
This is too funny. I saw this on another website and wanted to share it.
“Obama rode into office on a shiny white unicorn promising rainbows for everyone. All I got was a SEIU tee shirt.”
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Nicole commented:
The Tea party needs to be a movement within the Republican party. Everyone who has said this is absolutely correct. We have to make the Republican party what it used to be and then make them stay out. If we split then we hand a victory over to the Democrats. And anytime the MSM is on your side or is praising you then you should run for the hills.
Solaratov commented:
What a lot of people seem to forget is that there IS NO Tea “PARTY”. The Tea Party “movement” is not a single, co-ordinated political party. It’s, basically, a loose association of groups of people – organizing on their own and without a national “support system” or organizing headquarters – to protest the unreasonable and unconstitutional reach of congress and the president to take over and control American businesses and our lives; and tax us into perpetual servitude to a ruling class.
Even the march on Washington was not truly “nationally co-ordinated – other than by “word of blog” for people to meet and demonstrate — and they ended up with the largest demonstration ever held in DC. (Bigger, in fact, than the inauguration of Teh Won)
The MSM refers to the “tea party” as though it is just one group with the same political persuasion – which shows how little they understand the movement and its members. That is the reason they believe that it’s a “third party”. And – knowing the history of third parties in America – that’s why they encourage tea partiers to break with the Republicans (and democrats). They know that a true third party attempt will probably fail and will ensure democrat victory (with the help of acorn-type voter fraud). They know that there are a great many people who will talk a good game about supporting a third party — but when the curtain closes on the voting booth, they’ll pull the lever for the old standby Republicans, no matter that it’s another RINO on the ticket.
The aim of the Tea Party Movement should be to force the Republican party to actually run people who will stand up for Conservative principles; and to support those people in any way that we can. The RNC must be made aware that we shall not send them a dime until they return to their roots in Conservatism, but will, instead, send our money directly to the candidates who best exemplify what we believe in.
The Tea Party Movement is great – in that it brings Conservative and concerned people of ALL political stripes together. It makes us all know that we are not alone in seeing the evil that is being perpetrated upon our country. It makes us all aware of candidates of whom we may have never heard, but who are the kind of people who will actually do their best for America. And, given that a lot of the people who attend the tea parties are democrats who sense a great wrong being done to America by their party, it will also swell the ranks of the Republican party with people who have not understood what good the Republican party has done – and can do if it returns to its true Conservative roots.
Trying to re-form the Tea Party Movement as a political party at this time would be a tactical – and strategic – mistake. We are fighting a large, well-organized machine that will stop at nothing to keep power; and we cannot fight them from a position of self-imposed weakness. The mission must remain what it has been from its inception: to educate, inform, provide a haven for Conservatives, support Conservative candidates and let the government know that we aren’t going to go quietly into slavery.
averagemelon commented:
“Gail F
December 17th, 2009 | 8:10 am | #15 ”
You are talking and living the same as myself. I totally agree with Solaratov. We must REFORM the Republican party to meet our good standards BY COERCION if necessary (through money). And NEVER trust the liars at MSM. NEVER. They hate us with a fire that consumes them. They will do anything to us to keep us from power and rejoice in our very deaths if Liberals eventually demanded it.