We Will Never Forget — Here's Our Promise to Democrats Who Vote to Nationalize Health Care
Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:29 PM
Obama’s Jokers are voting to nationalize health care tonight.
At 1:00 AM Monday, December 21, the Senate will proceed to a cloture vote on the Reid-Baucus-Dodd-Harkin amendment #2376.
Hat Tip Al
Claire McCaskill — Don’t Think We Will Forget This.
We can’t stop them from passing their radical, unpopular, rationed health care legislation but we can promise them this:
We promise to actively and openly campaign against every democrat who votes for this bill no matter if you are a red state democrat or a blue state democrat.
We promise to forever kill the myth that there is such a creature as a bluedog democrat.
We promise to donate to campaigns to defeat the democrats who vote for this radical expansion of the federal government.
We promise to make it known how you bought your votes with our taxpayer money to pass this bill.
We promise that we will never forget how your party leaders and your state-run media called Americans who opposed this lousy nationalized health care bill – mobsters, radicals, Nazis and teabaggers.
We promise to never forget that you voted to force taxpayers to fund abortion by voting for this bill and that your bill requires a monthly abortion fee.
We promise to never forget that your plan allows for government coverage of illegal aliens.
We promise to attend your town hall meetings and confront you about your vote to takeover one-sixth of the nation’s economy. Not even your SEIU and ACORN thugs will keep us away.
We promise to let Americans and seniors know that democrats just cut $470 billion from their Medicare.
We promise to let Americans know that you voted to ration their health care.
We promise to NEVER FORGET that you voted against the wishes of the people you represent.
We promise…
(Feel free to add your own.)
UPDATE: These four democrats have not announced how they will vote.
I’m not holding my breath.
SEN. JIM WEBB (D-VA) SPOKESPERSON: “Senator Webb has a reputation for being very deliberative and independent-minded. The fact that he has said he is undecided about this bill is not extraordinary. He reviews all legislation with great care and deliberation. During this debate, he has broken with his party six times, including four votes to prevent cuts in Medicare.” (“Webb Under Fire On Health Care,” The Washington Post’s “Virginia Politics” Blog, 12/17/09)
Sen. Blanche Lincoln Released A Statement On The Manager’s Amendment But Still Did Not Indicate How She Would Vote. “As I review the Congressional Budget Office analysis of the revised Senate health care bill, I can comment on what I do know. After years of trying, I believe we are close to achieving most of the goals for health insurance reform for Arkansas that I pledged to support in the beginning and without compromising my fiscal goals by adding to the deficit or creating a public option government health care plan that would be underwritten by taxpayers.” (Sen. Blanche Lincoln, Press Release, 12/19/09)
SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D-MO): “If We’re Not Saving More Money For Our Government Than We’re Spending, Then Not Only Will I Not Support It.” Q: “No, you’re saying if this doesn’t bend the cost curve, you go back to the drawing board, start all over?” SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D-MO): “My statement all along is it has to slow down the increase of health care costs over time, and that is bending the cost curve, and secondly, that it has to be deficit neutral. We have to be saving more money for our government than we’re spending. And if we’re not saving more money for our government than we’re spending, then not only will I not support it…” (Fox News’ “Fox News Sunday,” 12/13/09)
SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD (D-WI): “I Am Not Making A Judgment Until I See The CBO Numbers And That’s Only The Beginning.” (“Feingold: I would Have Liked A Stronger Healthcare Bill,” The Hill, 12/15/09)
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thetimman commented:
What’s the opening line on there not being any elections in 2010?
Sally commented:
Yes, we will keep the oath of our promise to keep informing them of their votes to destroy our healthe care.
Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison was one of three opposition senators (along with Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe) to cast a vote against a legislative filibuster on Friday on Health Care.
Fr. Steve commented:
There will be elections and there will long lines to vote. Let’s pray the voters don’t forget who the jokers are!
Daniel commented:
You can forget that.
There most certainly will be elections in 2010.
CB commented:
I promise!
Robb76 commented:
OK. I’ll bring hot tar. Does anyone have a large supply of feathers?
Elektra commented:
Phone them. Email them. Tell them these things and make sure your television is on CSpan tonight. Let them know with ratings that we are watching them under their cover of darkness!
Fight! Kick ass and take names!
Toaster802 commented:
NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare…
Call into work sick. Buy nothing. Find a union hall, congress creature office, State or Federal building and form picket lines. Come ready to party…
NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! Put that right back in their face!
NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare…TAKE BACK AMERICA!
UncleZeb commented:
I do not care if they voted against it or not, I will vote against and campaign against any and all Democrats. Those that voted against it did for cover. Do not make the mistake of separating them into different camps. They are all part of the same evil machine or else they would not be Democrats.
Charlie commented:
I’ve been both a registered Republican and Democrat. At this moment, I’m still a registered Democrat, although one that did not vote for Obama. While watching this horror show of an administration, I promised myself to NEVER vote for another Democrat. I’ve often wondered if anyone else has made the same vow.
A Reagan In Mo commented:
I promise to do all that I can to get them out of office.
john commented:
Does anyone know if Webb has made any remarks about which way he’s voting?
From what I’ve read it doesn’t seem as if he’s given a certain answer one way or another. It’s likely that he’ll vote for the bill, but given the massive swing in VA politics he has to be worried.
It would seem that if people are targeting particular senators for the rest of today they may want to call his office.
caolila commented:
I’d like a yard sign please with this graphic and “McCaskill Nationalizes Healthcare. Never forget!”
joe camel commented:
Ms. McCaskill is one of the most pathetic people on the planet. I will never forget seeing the campaign for Obama, everywhere he was, there was Claire’s legs hanging out of his tush, as her head was buried there.
She does not care, as she knows that Missouri is a 50/50 state, that Robin Carnahan, another witch will soon join her after Kit Bond retires.
These people have no souls, just politics in their life. BTW, I am taking bets on when Claire announces she is running for president in 2016. It is coming.
She knows my name very well in Missouri, and she will continue to know it. I have shown many Missouri Demonrats what she has done, as they never seem to track it. Bottom line in Missouri; if Satan were running for office, he would get at least 48% of the vote.
silent_rage commented:
How sneaky! 1 a.m. in the morning?
Scott commented:
I’ve written 2 letters and an email to McCaskill, beginning when TARP was passed in October 2008. I also tried to call her D.C. office but the voicemail was jammed and I couldn’t leave a message.
Neither she nor her staffers have acknowledged a single correspondence. Comapre that to my Republican representative (Graves), who I called about TARP and wrote a letter about healthcare. His office acknowledged both of my contacts to his office with a letter back explaining his position and how he expected to vote.
So, in terms of responsiveness to constituents:
McCaskill is 0 for 4; and Graves is 2 for 2.
Her arrogance and putting her party ahead of the wishes of Missourians is disgraceful. I don’t care who the Republicans run against her, I look forward with pleasure to her defeat 2012 and will do whatever I can to make it happen.
By all means, try to pressure McCaskill for the next few hours until the vote. But after that, we need to be focused on getting Roy Blunt elected to the Senate in 2010. The Carnahans are just as liberal as McCaskill. We need to get Roy Blunt elected in 2010 then focus on defeating McCaskill in 2012.
Kid Blue commented:
Recall Them All
Every Senator that votes for cloture needs to face a recall. If current laws to not allow for Senatorial recall then the laws should be changed!
JonahVark commented:
Well, Claire,
It looks like you shut out your constituents AGAIN and voted for Obamacare.
Police to the Rescue -Tea Party anti-Obama Care protest at MO Sen. Claire McCaskill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jcrwnm4C3c
Speaking of Robin Carnahan, Election Day 2010 is less than one year away and Missouri Secretary of State, Robin Carnahan, is running for the U. S. Senate.
According to Section 14, Article IV, EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT – of our Missouri Constitution, the Secretary of State is custodian of records, and documents and performs duties in relation to elections and corporations,.
Being a candidate in an election that you are required to oversee is a serious conflict of interest. Isn’t it time she resigned from her state executive position? After all, you can’t referee the game you’re playing in.
Michael A Hogan commented:
Why don’t you promise to do something positive like cut the cost of health care and lower the administrative costs of health insurance and allow us to by drugs from other countries and allow cross state purchasing of health care insurance. Maybe then I’ll believe Republicans are something different than they were during Bush. When the never saw a tax cut or a spending plan they didn’t like and we ran hugh deficits. You don’t impress me with your anti democrat screed. Where on the ballot is non of the above.
Robert commented:
Webb is playing the reluctant role. As are the rest.
They would not schedule the vote if the fix was not in.
Sally commented:
RINO Hutchinson does it again…LIES about her vote for the filibuster and votes with the Democrats to accelerate a vote on Obamacare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVcoFq170SA
John Cooper commented:
Question: Who is is who sells their favors for money and works at 1AM in the morning?
Answer: The U.S. Senate
Kenny Solomon commented:
Tinman – Right now, I wouldn’t take the bet.
I’ve been saying that basic thing since 4 November 2008 – That we’ve seen the last open national general election in our country.
My business partner had her daughters stay home from school on 20 January specifically so she could watch with them what she calls to this day, ‘the inauguration of the last president of the USA’.
Some people see it…… We’re still called crazy, racist, bigoted, tin-foil-hat-wearers, etc…….
I pray daily and nightly that I’m wrong…. beyond wrong…… But everything is adding up and coming to a head faster than even I and others thought would happen.
Patriotic commented:
2010 Congressional Elections Update:
I have updated my 2010 U.S. Senate Elections Republican candidates list for Maryland to read: (hat tip – Daniel McAndrew)
Republican challengers: Daniel McAndrew, Jim Rutledge, Eric Wargotz, and Corrogan Vaughn.
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If anyone notices missing Republican candidates from my list, then post a reply, and I will research it, and update my list.
Thanks. Patriotic.
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U.S. HOUSE: Dems=258, Repubs=177, Republicans need to beat 41 democrats, and lose no Republican seats, to take the House in 2010, and to have the majority of votes needed to elect Republican John Boehner, as the new Republican Speaker of the House, and boot Nancy Pelosi out as the Speaker.
(takes 218 out of 435 seats to make a majority
in the House)
In the 1994 Republican Revolution, House
Republicans picked up 54 seats.
All of the House is up for reelection in 2010,
so all Democrats can be voted out in 2010.
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U.S. SENATE: Dems=58, Repubs=40, Independent=2
(Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman)
Roughly 1/3 of the Senate is up for reelection every 2 years.
37 Senators are up for reelection in 2010, and
of those 37, 19 are Democrats, and 18 are
Republicans.
Republicans need to lose no Senate
Seats in 2010, and beat 20 Dems (gain 20 Senate seats)to have the 60 cloture-vote margin (filibuster-proof) to pass
legislation, but there are only 19 Democrats
up for reelection in 2010 to beat, so the
other 1 added Senate seat will have to be
done in 2012, if Joe Lieberman, the
Independent moderate, does not caucus (vote)
with them on enough legislation.
If the Republicans pick up all 19 Democrats Senate seats, and lose no Republican Senate Seats in 2010, they will have the Independent Senator Joe Lieberman, who caucuses (votes) with them some of the time, to give them the 60 Senate votes the Republicans need to pass some legislation in 2010.
In the 1994 Republican Revolution, Senate
Republicans picked up 8 seats.
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Even with a Republican sweep in 2010, it will most likely take the 2012 Congressional elections, along with a conservative Republican President, to give Congress the ability to pass legislation, that begins fixing the damage that has been done to America. This is due to the fact that it takes a 2/3 majority vote in each Chamber, to override President Obama’s veto power. This would be 290 votes in the House, which is unlikely, and 60 votes in the Senate. A Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, or Tim Pawlenty as President in 2012 would be a continuation of restoring sanity to America.
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List of the 19 Senate Democrats up for
reelection or retiring in 2010:
-Ted Kaufman (D) of Delaware (Repubs Mike
Castle and Christine O’Donnell challenging)
-Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas (Repubs Gilbert
Baker and Curtis Coleman challenging)
-Barbara Boxer of California (Repubs Chuck
DeVore and Carly Fiorina-rino? challenging)
-Michael Bennet of Colorado (Repubs Jane
Norton, Ken Buck, and Cleve Tidwell challenging)
-Christopher Dodd of Connecticut (Repubs Rob
Simmons, Sam Caligiuri, and Peter Schiff are
challenging)
-Daniel Inouye of Hawaii (Repub Gov. Linda
Lingle possible challenger)
-Roland Burris of Illinois (Repubs Mark Kirk
and Patrick Hughes challenging)
-Evan Bayh of Indiana (Repub challengers
include Marlin Stutzman)
-Barbara Mikulski of Maryland (Repub
challengers, Daniel McAndrew, Jim Rutledge,
Eric Wargotz, and Corrogan Vaughn)
-Paul G. Kirk Of Massachusetts (Special
election held in Jan 2010, Republican
challenger Scott P. Brown)
-Harry Reid of Nevada (Repub challengers
include Dan Tarkanian and Sue Lowden)
-Kirsten Gillibrand of New York (Possible Repub
challengers Rudy Gulianni and Liz Feld)
-Chuck Schumer of New York (*NO REPUBLICAN
CHALLENGER YET)
-Byron Dorgan of North Dakota (possible Repub
challengers Paul Sorum, John Heoven, and Duane Sand)
-Ron Wyden of Oregon (*NO REPUBLICAN
CHALLENGER YET)
-Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania (Repub
challenger Pat Toomey)
-Patrick Leahy of Vermont (Repub challenger
Len Britton)
-Patty Murray of Washington (Repub challenger
George Nethercutt)
-Russ Feingold of Wisconsin (Repub challenger
Dave Westlake)
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If you want to know about all the conservative
Republicans that are running in the 2010
elections (to boot out the democrats), then
here are some good links to spread around:
The Republican Young Guns for the House:
http://www.nrcc.org/races/youngguns.aspx
The Senate Conservative Fund’s list:
http://senateconservatives.com/index.php?p=races&c=
There are also many other good conservative
and republican candidates running in all 50
States, so seek them out, research them, and
join with other conservatives to get the word
out, and let’s flip the House and Senate in
2010, and restore freedom and dignity to
America.
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If anyone notices missing Republican candidates from my list, then post a reply, and I will research it, and update my list.
Thanks. Patriotic.
Randy commented:
I’m taking the “I Promise” statement and emailing to all of my conservative friends.
I hope our military leaders are watching. It is time for tanks to surround the Whitehouse.
I think we all need to Boycott the State of Union speech as well.
I’m waiting for opposition leadership to form.
Randy commented:
And its also time to get rid of Michael Steele.
dj commented:
Oh please…spare the drama for your momma. Until we take to the streets and physically scare these politicians to listen to us then its futile to “vote.” I mean..we tried that already…more than once right? They are laughing at us…laughing all the way to the bank because they know at this point the American people will do nothing. Politicians in lesser countries have ousted their leaders, physically if needed, for less crap than what’s being pulled today…just look at the political history of Mexico. What do we do? Blog. Send Tweets. WTFE. Politely march on Washington. Politicians should be scared of the people but in this case they aren’t, it’s almost the other way around. Till we send a clear cut message, and at this point one that has to take to the streets, they will continue to laugh. So you can talk all this nonsense if you want but I think at this point it’s beyond voting, we have to take this to Washington.
KR commented:
Michael A Hogan,
You must not be aware of the multiple healthcare reform bills which were voted down by the Democrats in congress the past several years.
The bills which would have helped to reduce health care costs were all voted against!
OCBill commented:
On the downside, it will take a Republican president, a Republican majority in the House, and a filibuster-proof Republican majority in the Senate to repeal this once it becomes law (aka “the day American died”).
Nadadhimmi commented:
Most thefts occur in the early morning hours. I predict the Dems will loose at least 50 house seats and probably 8 to 10 Senate. These people are depending on Obama appointing them to ambassadorships after they loose their seats but he will not be re-elected himself, even with the most egregious acorn and SEIU vote fraud. But the ONE may just appoint himself president for life like his buddies Mugabe and Hugo and Fidel.
MB commented:
I simply cannot wait for the next election season!
Rope Manufacturer commented:
Nuremberg style trials for the current administration and congress, followed by permanent residence at Gitmo Illinois.
bg commented:
++
OT..
via TRBO
Once upon a time in Saigon and Mumbai
[Got all that? As to what to do about it: For a few minutes set aside al Qaeda, the war on terror, and Islamism. Get into the ballpark of what’s actually going on in Pakistan. From there it’s a hop and skip to working out a better war strategy in Afghanistan. Reaching the ballpark starts with realizing that we can’t ’solve’ Afghanistan until we confront what Pakistan is and what we’ve been supporting in Pakistan since (drum roll please) 1947: a form of feudalism that’s supported by a caste system.
However, we don’t have enough time to become armchair anthropologists in the effort to help rectify a situation that goes back not to Pakistan’s independence but to thousands of years into the past. As I noted in Part 1 of this essay, Pakistan has not so much a feudal system as the remnants of the Indian subcontinent’s maharaja system, which in turn is based on a much older system of government in agrarian ages.
So I will fall back on weaving an allegory from two struggles between good and evil that exposed a larger evil, and which intersect in the present war. Time is running out, as the news from London today suggests. How long have we got? Well, toward the end of the siege of Mumbai in 2008, one of the terrorist’s handlers said that the carnage in Mumbai was just the film trailer and to wait for the film.]
Obama has done a great job.. might as well paint a joker face on the US
& be done with it, hell knows our enemy has since Obama was crowned
faux King of this faux world..
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bg commented:
++
Candidate Obama: No Individual Mandates
the only difference left between
lies & truths are their spellings..
==
IOpian commented:
First item is to promote candidates for midterms that will work to repeal this legislative carbuncle.
Next, the states can should threaten to call a constitutional convention on the proposal that since Congress cannot exercise its power responsibly then we will do it for them.
First thing is amend Article V where only the states can call for a constitutional convention so the fox cannot access the hen house.
The second is specifically define the scope of the interstate commerce and general welfare clauses since they are being abused as an all-encompassing excuse to do any damn thing they want.
Thirdly, create a national petition of recall where collectively the states can force the removal of a single state’s representative since their actions affect us collectively once in national office.
Lastly, require full disclosure for a presidential candidate to prove eligibility and allow all past records be subject to FOIA. No more sealing of records while in public institutions.
OCBill commented:
The only vote that matters is the cloture vote. If they gain cloture, then Webb, Lincoln, Nelson, and up to six other Democrats will be allowed to vote NO so they can say they opposed the bill when they next come up for election.
Randy commented:
DJ….Read Vince Flynn, Term Limits.
Ginger commented:
We need to march on the White House with our signs all saying the same thing. Where is your REAL birth certificate Obama? Prove who you are and where you were born. Unseal your records and let us see the truth about you. Untill then sign no more bills, etc.
Daniel commented:
There should also be new legislation that bars any candidate/elected official from being able to seal any pertinent documentation.
Ginger commented:
Daniel
You got that right! I second that.
mike gunderson commented:
I will promise to never forget how the Grand Old Party , the party of values, for last 20 years stood by the big business of medical care and said to hell with the general public. If you want medical coverage get a second or third job or put your wife to work! All of those free health clinics were all staged where people not seeing a dentist for 5 years were only telling a bunch of lies! After all spending a trillion dollars on the most useless of wars is far more important than providing general healthcare. We can’t be like a bunch of lazy europeans! Why is it only those who are better off and have healthcare are the first to reject the call for help of others via healthcare stating that it was their choice or decision that put themselves in their predicament? Perhaps it was their fine christian/Judea upbringing that produced such twisted logic? There is something bizarre when we call for the end to abortion and euthanasia and then leave out life’s journey itself. By the way the very first sentence of the preamble states that it is the duty of the government to provide for the general welfare of its citizens.
angelsfromabove commented:
Doesn’t really matter what these 4 dems do. It only takes a simple majority to pass. Any 9 dems can vote against it and then make the claim when they are up for re-election. In reality they voted for it when they gathered the 60 votes to send it to the floor. In the words of John Kerry, they will claim that “first I voted for it, then I voted against it”. Don’t let any dems get away with this when the elections roll around!
Ginger commented:
Does any one feel like I do with the strange way that Barry had to fly to Copenhagen in a blizard and then back to Washington in another snow blizard? Maybe God may be letting us know that he is watching them. hehehehe
Derak commented:
DJ….Read Vince Flynn, Term Limits.
This is really weird. I just started reading this this morning, not because of the topic, but because I finished flynn’s latest and just randomly picked up this one, realizing he’d written so many. I picked it because it was the oldest (2001) of the choices I had.
Bizarre. So prescient and timely, even though 8 years old.
Patriotic commented:
To: (Mike #45)
You said: “…the very first sentence of the preamble states that it is the duty of the government to provide for the general welfare of its citizens.”
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The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution reads: “Promote” the general welfare, which is not the same things as “Provide”.
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To promote the general welfare would be for the Government to make laws that give everyone an equal chance to compete, and then get out of the way of the citizen. Freedom and Liberty.
IOpian commented:
It is to ‘promote the general welfare’ not ‘provide’. There is a difference.
Chisum commented:
CBO Corrects Itself On Cost Of ObamaCare; Update – Details On More Bribery From Reid & Co.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#more-31863
Txbrand commented:
Bribery – Federal Law – USC 18
United States Code Title 18 ^ | Congress
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:32:56 PM by djf
People keep asking “Isn’t bribery illegal??”, well, actually, it is. Sounds to me like half of Congress could end up in the slammer!!
USC Title 18, Ch 11, Sec 201…
(b) Whoever—
(1) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to any public official or person who has been selected to be a public official, or offers or promises any public official or any person who has been selected to be a public official to give anything of value to any other person or entity, with intent—
(A) to influence any official act; or
(B) to influence such public official or person who has been selected to be a public official to commit or aid in committing, or collude in, or allow, any fraud, or make opportunity for the commission of any fraud, on the United States; or
(C) to induce such public official or such person who has been selected to be a public official to do or omit to do any act in violation of the lawful duty of such official or person;
shall be fined under this title or not more than three times the monetary equivalent of the thing of value, whichever is greater, or imprisoned for not more than fifteen years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
There you have it. That’s the Federal law on the matter.
GatorBob commented:
Fight! Kick ass and take names!
Toaster802
December 20th, 2009 | 2:56 pm | #8
NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare…
Call into work sick. Buy nothing. Find a union hall, congress creature office, State or Federal building and form picket lines. Come ready to party…
NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! Put that right back in their face!
NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare…TAKE BACK AMERICA!
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This is a great Post…..we should all not only agree with it we should carry out what it says…show them just how determined we are to take our Country back away from them……they are the lowest form of life on the planet……and think they should rule the World……and probably will try before it is over…them and the boy king obumer
AuntieMadder commented:
Kenny Solomon
December 20th, 2009 | 4:01 pm | #26
…
I’ve been saying that basic thing since 4 November 2008 – That we’ve seen the last open national general election in our country.
…
Some people see it…… We’re still called crazy, racist, bigoted, tin-foil-hat-wearers, etc…….
I pray daily and nightly that I’m wrong…. beyond wrong…… But everything is adding up and coming to a head faster than even I and others thought would happen.
Same here, all of it, since Nov 4 last year. That comment could have been posted by me except you left out the part about getting the heebie jeebies when seeing his mug on tv the first time…and many times after the first time, too.
mike gunderson commented:
ok I stand corrected it is to promote the general welfare, then is it not providing health care for all a means of promoting general welfare? Does not the preamble set the tune for the Constitution?
AuntieMadder commented:
mike gunderson
December 20th, 2009 | 6:59 pm | #56
ok I stand corrected it is to promote the general welfare, then is it not providing health care for all a means of promoting general welfare? Does not the preamble set the tune for the Constitution?
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Sort of. Read the whole sentence:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Then the Articles spell out how those things are to be done. And nowhere in any of those articles is government provided health care mentioned or promised.
Chisum commented:
Dems Break It, They Own It
The meme circulating today is that Republicans made a tactical error by failing to cooperate more with Democrats early on in the health care debate, pushing so-called moderate Democrats like Evan Bayh into the arms of Harry Reid and Barack Obama.
That meme is a bunch on nonsense.
As bad as the Senate bill is, it could have been much, much worse but for Republicans holding together.
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/12/dems-break-it-they-own-it.html
Gordon Court commented:
I say this, to all you “Public Servants”, who are really self servants, and are not listening to your constituants, YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY. WE WILL WORK WITH EVERY OUNCE OF EFFORT IN OUR BODIES TO GET YOU OUT OF OFFICE. WE WILL MARCH ON WASHINGTON, AND DRAG YOU FROM THE OFFICE IF NECESSARY. WE WILL STOP PAYING OUR TAXES AND NOT SEND ANOTHER DIME TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNTIL YOU START TO DO OUR WILL. IT’S TIME TO STAND FOR OUR COUNTRY AND “THROW THE BUMS OUT”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob6MjbV1oJM
Chisum commented:
‘Health care for all’ is not a right; it is slavery
For Americans, the Declaration of Independence codifies man’s unalienable, individual rights.
These rights are life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. And that is the complete list of rights to which citizens are entitled.
There is no right to a Whopper with Cheese at the local Burger King; no right to a free month of rent at the Lakeview Luxury Apartments; or even free Chemotherapy treatments should you need them.
Why did the Declaration limit our rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness? Because legitimate rights provide freedom for citizens to act, not to receive free shelter, food, medical treatment or big-screen televisions.
The American system guarantees you the right to work for what you want — not for goods or services to be ‘given’ to you, without effort on your part, by some mysterious “others”.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/12/health-care-for-all-not-right-crime.html
Megan commented:
Oh, trust me. Feingold will support this. I’m his constituent, and I already know. He makes me embarrassed to be a Wisconsinite. That fool doesn’t listen to a thing that his constituents say.
MaxTruth commented:
I think that’s a good look for her.
Just send an email to Webb. Asked what good he was if he couldn’t get Virginia as good a deal as Nelson or Landrieau got for their states.
john commented:
Webb just announced he’s supporting the bill.
drjohn commented:
Of course they’ll fold and vote for it.
They’re idiots. They’re zombies.
Maybe they’ve got half a brain and are holding out for a deal.
But they WILL vote for it.
Bet the farm.
logic101 commented:
these four piglets are saying, OINK! where’s my lard? Lard me up too! Oink!”
Espresso Logic - The 6th Sense commented:
mike gunderson
December 20th, 2009 | 6:05 pm | #45
I will promise to never forget how the Grand Old Party , the party of values,
I see stupid people.
justasimplepatriot commented:
TAX REVOLT! NO TAXES AS LONG AS THEY ARE KILLING BABIES WITH OUR DOLLARS!
OCBill commented:
Sadly, they don’t need to tax us to pay for abortions. They just print more money, then tax us to reduce the deficit.
mike gunderson commented:
auntiemadder
0f course health care is not mentioned in the Constitution nor is the use of assault guns and saturday night specials mentioned in the second amendment that the gun nuts insist are needed to ensure that their rights are secure.. The document was written a few years ago. To use a means of protecting and promoting the general welfare of its citizens via a new methodology now available is only proper and the correct use of that resource. By the way for Chisum do you deserve the use of the public works such as roads, sewer , water, fire fighters of your community that are funded by perhaps less than .01% by your taxes? The entire society has to provide the necessities to make it affordable and available to all citizens. This includes health care already provided to our veterans who I believe think it is a good system.
Racerx commented:
Wow what a festival of stupid…
bg commented:
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The Preamble
We the people,
In order to form a more perfect union,
Establish justice, insure domestic tranquility,
Provide for the common defense,
Promote the general welfare and
Secure the blessings of liberty
To ourselves and our posterity
Do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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bg commented:
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Gordon Court @7:40 pm #60
re: [Stand Up] (thumbsup)
Take a Stand Right Now & Take This Country Back
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AuntieMadder commented:
mike gunderson
December 20th, 2009 | 11:07 pm | #73
Gunderson, are you truly this stupid or is stupidity your troll shtick?