The kooks are infuriated that former Vice President Dick Cheney has criticized Snorkeler in Chief on his weak security record.
Blowhard dem Rep. Eric Massa challenged former Vice President Dick Cheney to debate national security:
The Hill reported:
Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) is challenging former Vice President Dick Cheney to a debate about his most recent security criticisms of the Obama administration.
Appearing on MSNBC’s “Ed Show” Wednesday night, Massa said he’s had enough of former Vice President Cheney “kicking us in the shins.”
“I don’t want the president being diverted from his mission on this, having to deal with Dick Cheney. I want Dick Cheney debate me, anywhere, anytime, anyhow. And let’s see how he stands up to the truth,” Massa said.
After host Ed Schultz suggested that Cheney would only appear on Fox News, Massa said that wasn’t a problem.
“Then Ed, here’s a proposition — I’ll go on Fox and I’ll debate Dick Cheney on his home territory, because he’s standing on quicksand on this issue,” Massa said.
Since Barack Obama took office there has been a significant increase in terrorist activity inside our borders. There have been 33 terror-related “events” on US shores since 9-11. 13 of those events occurred in 2009.
Related… White House takes four days to respond to terror attack, but responds to Cheney criticism in matter of hours?
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Published May 23, 2012 at 11:51 pm - 59 Comments
bg commented:
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is it show time for ratings or what??
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LibertyMinded commented:
The rev. Chuck Baldwin and the constitution party have a great idea! Get out of the middle east and quit meddling in foreign affairs. We have no business to be telling foreign countries what kind of government to have, and doing so just antagonizes the innocent citizens, and gives more credential to Al Qaeda and the like. We are not the policemen of the world, and the founding fathers never intended for us to be.
Militant Conservative commented:
LibertyMinded, must be nice to live in such a simple world. We did’nt tell Iraq what type of government they needed. We toppled a killer dictator and the iraqis voted on the type of government. Now we are killing terrorists over there before they come here.
I think this is in the constitution. Go to the back of the class.
bg commented:
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he wants to talk military & defense..
why doesn’t he challenge this man??
why isn’t he challenging those who fought for
the RELEASE THE GITMO DETAINEES, ie:
OBAMA, GORELICK & HOLDER??
not to mention the NYC KSM TRIALS!!
all i have to say is this will backfire big time..
yes, lets get the TRUTH out, that ought to SEAL
the DEMOCRAT COFFIN once & for all, Amen..
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bg commented:
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LibertyMinded @ 12:21 pm #2
please tell the good Rev for me he’s got it
BASS ACKWARDS, thankyouverymuch..
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LibertyMinded commented:
Thanks militant conservative for your very short history of the war in Iraq and your, apparently, excellent knowledge of the constitution.
Tell me, who declared war on Iraq, the president or congress?
It was the president and it is UNCONSITUTIONAL for a president to declare war, it MUST be declared by congress.
“I think this is in the constitution”
Think again, don’t go to the back of the class, go to the corner and don’t forget to wear your dunce cap.
Dell commented:
In Texas, this fool is described as:
All Hat; No Cattle
And he proves it every time he opens his mouth.
TomG commented:
Hey, how come you guys don’t have a Paulnut filter?
bg commented:
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deja vu the false but accurate Bush years..
that’s a hummer of a distraction they conjured up..
fact is, these are the people they should debate if the
Dems wish to prove themselves ‘strong on defense’..
Weakening Islamism is Vital to Improve US Image in the Muslim world
12/23/09; By Tawfik Hamid
[In the December 1, 2009 issue of the WSJ Europe, Fouad Ajami - in an Op-Ed entitled "The Arabs Have Stopped Applauding Obama" - argued that President Obama's diplomatic approach to win the hearts and minds of the Muslim world has not been successful. Poll results have shown that unfavorable views of the US are as high as 82%, 69 %, and 70% in the Palestinian territories, Turkey, and Egypt respectively. In fact, the Op-Ed stated that unfavorable views of the US in Pakistan have risen from 63% in 2008 to 68% in 2009 according to a recent Pew survey.
In addition, after President Obama came to office in 2009, the number of home-grown Islamist terror plots inside the US has risen dramatically compared to the previous years. The Year of 2009 represents the highest level of domestic home-grown Islamic radicalism in the US since 2001.
We must question why President Obama's approach with the Muslim world has not succeeded yet in at least having a more positive effect in improving the US image in several Muslim countries or in decreasing the rate of home-grown Islamic radicalism on the home front. One of the main reasons for this lack of success is that US strategic communications with the Muslim world was largely based on the assumption that the problem of Islamic Radicalism and hatred to America is primarily because of the US foreign policy with the Muslim world and thus changing this policy will change the latter. This can only work if the main problem was in the US approach; however, if the main problem was in the Muslim world, such an approach cannot succeed as it will be like trying to change the keys to open a room while the problem is in the rusty lock! In the latter situation, changing the lock - or in other words changing the Muslim world itself - is crucial to solving the problem.
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Trying to satisfy the Muslim world by changing the US will not be effective unless the US is ready to end its values of freedom and liberty and adopt an Islamic Sharia system.
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In this context, it is also important to raise the point that the Muslim world is in far greater need than the US to improve its image in the world as its image has been painted by terrorism and barbarism especially in the last few years.
In brief, no matter what the non-Islamic world does – short of submitting to the Islamic Sharia – the Islamists will never be satisfied completely. The US must either change itself to adopt an Islamic system to satisfy the Muslim world or alternatively assist in changing the latter. Weakening the Islamism phenomenon is vital to ultimately improve the image of the US in the Muslim world as Islamism is currently a – if not the – major obstacle to enhancing the US image among Muslims]
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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bg @ 12:38 pm #10 continued..
re: “The Arabs Have Stopped Applauding Obama”
11/29/09; By FOUAD AJAMI
[Mr. Obama's election has not drained the swamps of anti-Americanism. That anti-Americanism is endemic to this region, an alibi and a scapegoat for nations, and their rulers, unwilling to break out of the grip of political autocracy and economic failure. It predated the presidency of George W. Bush and rages on during the Obama presidency.
We had once taken to the foreign world that quintessential American difference—the belief in liberty, a needed innocence to play off against the settled and complacent ways of older nations. The Obama approach is different.
Steeped in an overarching idea of American guilt, Mr. Obama and his lieutenants offered nothing less than a doctrine, and a policy, of American penance. No one told Mr. Obama that the Islamic world, where American power is engaged and so dangerously exposed, it is considered bad form, nay a great moral lapse, to speak ill of one's own tribe when in the midst, and in the lands, of others.
The crowd may have applauded the cavalier way the new steward of American power referred to his predecessor, but in the privacy of their own language they doubtless wondered about his character and his fidelity. "My brother and I against my cousin, my cousin and I against
the stranger," goes one of the Arab world's most honored maxims. The stranger who came into their midst and spoke badly of his own was destined to become an object of suspicion.
Mr. Obama could not make up his mind: He was at one with "the people" and with the rulers who held them in subjugation. The people of Iran who took to the streets this past summer were betrayed by this hapless diplomacy—Mr. Obama was out to "engage" the terrible rulers that millions of Iranians were determined to be rid of. ]
DO YOU THINK THERE IS A PRAYER THAT
OBAMA & THE MSM ET AL WILL WAKE UP??
nah, they are the ones they’ve been waiting for, they are the ones making sure an IslaMarxist Jihad hastens America’s demise.. the allied fools that they be are totally focused on their Muhammad & Marx tree.. which will bloom to fruition we shall have to wait & see, but in the end it matters not, as either one kills the forest of liberty..
to be continued..
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bg commented:
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bg @ 12:40 pm #11 continued..
On the Job Training
12/30/09; M. Zuhdi Jasser
It is sad that President Obama and his team are still going through on-the-job training a year into their administration. Despite the fact that Janet Napolitano, our homeland-security secretary, bizarrely tried to nix the use of the term terrorism and despite the fact that his own White House dubiously dubbed this global conflict “an overseas contingency operation,” the president has finally learned to use the most obvious term – terror- this week. Mr. President, if you are listening, here are a few more thoughts from a concerned Muslim.
You cannot just stay hunkered down at your “beachhead” in Hawaii after another virulent byproduct of global political Islam attacked on our homeland. While no one was really hurt, you don’t exactly look like you are taking the issue seriously when your photo of the day captures a romp on the beach. It was not a coincidence that this was attempted on Christmas day, yet you ignore the religious struggles in this conflict. It is time that our commander-in-chief and the leader of the free world come to terms with the reality that this is the greatest conflict of the century and a battle of ideas between western liberal secular democracies and political Islam.
While you and your colleagues are stymied by the question of whether to even use the term “terror,” the ideology of al-Qaeda (violent political Islam) is spreading exponentially. Your systematic failure to advance American security against ideologies that threaten us may turn catastrophic. In fact the Christmas bomber said so himself, telling an investigator that “there are more just like me who will strike soon.” By all means, Mr. President, fix the holes in our security that we know are there – but terrorists who are suicidal religious zealots and very creative will sadly very likely strike again soon. This year certainly proves that.
Our nation is clearly becoming more and more anxious and concerned over the rash of radicalized Muslims. Is it not time for you to acknowledge that terror is a simply a symptom of a more profound deeper underlying disease? That disease is political Islam.
Hopefully you will realize that we can only defeat an enemy we can name, describe, and understand. As Thomas Friedman and others have recently reminded us, the only answer to jihadists, Salafists, and Islamists is a narrative from within America, and most important from within Islam, that counters the global supremacism of political Islam. Until you say exactly that, we will continue to flail in this conflict.
I hope after Nidal Hasan, after the American jihadis in Pakistan, and now after the Christmas bomber radicalized in London, that you see our need for clear leadership against political Islam and its ubiquitous permeating militant manifestations. We need a leader who recognizes that this conflict is most significantly within Muslim communities as we Muslims struggle with the conflict between theocracy and democracy, sharia and liberty, Islamism and freedom, and salafism and modernity. The longer you squander your leadership and stay silent on this, the more vulnerable we will be.
much more here..
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Militant Conservative commented:
LibertyMinded
Last time I looked the congress voted and passed the articles of war. Democrats en mass voted for this.
Bush went to war on his time table not a knee jerk like current wimps. sorry the truth is what it is.
Dell, If you live in the land of Dell I need no more insight into you abilites. Austin is known for its left leaning politics due to the universities.
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LibertyMinded @ 12:31 pm #7
geesh, you’re a simpleton..
Declaration of war by the United States
[standard disclaimer: source Wkipedia]
and just for fun..
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FedUp commented:
first – Massa isn’t competent to debate Cheyney
second – Cheyney is aiming a bit higher than the shins!
Thanks for playing….
LibertyMinded commented:
Wrong bg,
your link disproves what you are trying to prove. Look at one table above, the last war we were in that was formally declared by congress was World War II, all the other wars were just for “extensive military engagements” I highly doubt that an occupation in two countries that has lasted almost a decade counts as a “military engagement”
FedUp commented:
ps – The rep is from NY – about says it all! Please, please Massa… go on tv and make a total fool of yourself and then we can pick up another seat!
Popcorn? My treat!
NC Cop commented:
“Massa said he’s had enough of former Vice President Cheney “kicking us in the shins.””
Says the man whose party got elected on the platform of “Look what Bush did!!”.
Says the man whose party of Clinton and Carter did away with the unwritten rule of not criticizing current sitting presidents.
Says the man whose party drudges up the Bush administration as a way of covering the mind numbing incompetence of the Obama administration.
Piss off, Massa.
kate commented:
Liberty (re)minded–
If I recall my history correctly both the French and the Poles showed up during our Revolutionary War to help us remove the monarchy’s boot from our neck.
Forget about paying that crap forward. We’ve got ours, the hell with everyone else–isn’t that your mindset now?
Scalliwag.
NC Cop commented:
“Forget about paying that crap forward. We’ve got ours, the hell with everyone else–isn’t that your mindset now?”
Worked well for Neville Chamberlain, didn’t it?!
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TomG @ 12:35 pm #9
in case you haven’t noticed, we listen to all sides, nuts included..
besides, RP isn’t ALL wrong, but neither is he ALL right..
bottom line:
anything anyone says should be taken with
a pinch of aslt & a pound of discernment..
research, research, research if you want to
know truth or come to a logical conclusion..
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Tim Hoft commented:
Ladies and gentlemen do not drink the Flavor Aid this man serves. It will lead to misery. Hatred is not fun, don’t drink the Flavor Aid.
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LibertyMinded @ 12:59 pm #17
Earth to simpleton..
[Although the constitutionality of the act has never been tested, it is usually followed, most notably during the Grenada Conflict, the Panamanian Conflict, the Somalia Conflict, the Gulf War, and the Iraq War. The only exception was President Clinton's use of U.S. troops in the 78-day NATO air campaign against Serbia during the Kosovo War. In all other cases, the President asserted the constitutional authority to commit troops without the necessity of Congressional approval, but in each case the President received Congressional authorization that satisfied the provisions of the War Powers Act.]
there, i even bolded it for you..
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Boogy commented:
Obummer is parting, he cares less. He just wants the economy to tank, to bow to dictators, to play golf and to shoot hoops, and to hand out fisting kits, and to promote child orgy literature. He has his priorities.
Pat the First commented:
As I said previously, isolationism has never worked. EVER!!!! Only the naive and stupid want us to live in a cocoon. The boat that we just living over here in the western hemisphere all by ourselves left the harbor a long time ago.
Isolationism will just give the Islamic Radicals the mistaken viewpoint that they have won. Don’t believe it? Read “Inside the Revolution” by Joel C. Rosenberg and learn.
Militant Conservative commented:
Thanks BG, Clinton bombed Serbia to get his
cigar problems off the news. Cheney is just a VP and the NOTUS and company cannot match wits with one man. Wow, severe derth of brain matter. Besides NOTUS wants all this chaos to continue as he finds it easier to push his socialist agenda in the smoke screen.
Boogy commented:
“Lake Superior State University on Thursday issued their 35th annual list of words that they believe should be banned.” –Reuters =
“teachable moment.”
“transparent/transparency,”
“czar”
‘stimulus’
Ron Paul said this a decade ago. He is a broken record.
Cheri commented:
Massa should concern himself more with the high unemployment and employers that have been fleeing his district in Western NY. I lived there for a time and those people are hurting, overly regulated, and pay huge taxes.
How about some leadership for your district Eric?
I actually would love to see Massa & Cheney debate….memories of the VP debate between Cheney & Edwards. Cheney takes no prisoners.
pagar commented:
“Please, please Massa… go on tv and make a total fool of yourself ”
They do that when they announce that they are Democrats. Their strongest efforts are against inconvenient unborn babies. Or like Sen Kerry, upset because the Americans and the South Vietnamese forces are defeating the North Vietnamese; gets out in front of all the Stateside rallies in support of the North Vietnamese and with the aid of the Democrats in Congress who cut off the aid to South Vietnam chalks up a win for the North Vietnamese. Weak on defense; they don’t even want the US to pretend to have any defense.
Boogy commented:
dem Rep. Eric Massa: Cheney hurts us by exposing our Obumming ditherer.
Callipygian1 commented:
After Massa’s 3 martini lunch wears off he will realize what an idiot he has been… not only will Cheney destroy him, he will provide the world with a video B**ch slapping… you just don’t mess with “Sneering DC”
I hope the RNC makes this a Pay-Per-View…
This would be like Ali vs. Wepner II
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LibertyMinded @ 12:59 pm #17
fact is.. we were not only requested to stay in Iraq, but Iraq is a partner in the GWOT, not to mention viewed as welcomed guests vs occupiers under Bush….
and a flashback to August 07
[“Al-Qaida in Iraq and criminal militia elements have overplayed their hands,” he said. “In many areas and neighborhoods now, in fact, coalition forces are seen as partners in the effort to bring sustainable stability to Iraq, as opposed to occupiers.”]
oh btw, little did we know.. *sigh*
Iraq’s Maliki honors fallen US soldiers
[Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki paid symbolic tribute to US soldiers killed in Iraq, laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Virginia's Arlington National Cemetery.
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According to cemetery officials, Thursday was the third time Maliki has visited the site to pay his respects, but the previous two visits were not open to the public.]
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Blackacre commented:
Here’s a key part of what the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit had to say when addressing the constitutionality of the declaration of the Iraq war, in affirming the dismissal of a complaint brought by John Conyers, Dennis Kucinich, Maurice Hinchey, Pete Stark, and other luminaries.
http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/03-1266-01A.pdf
Page 18: The plaintiffs appropriately disavow the formalistic notion that Congress only authorizes military deployments if it states, “We declare war.” This has never been the practice and it was not the understanding of the founders. See J.H. Ely, War and Responsibility 25-26 (1993). Congressional authorization for military action has often been found in the passage of resolutions that lacked these “magic words,” or in continued enactments of appropriations or extensions of the draft which were aimed at waging a particular war. See, e.g., Laird, 451 F.2d at 34 (“[I]n a situation of prolonged but undeclared hostilities, where the executive continues to act . . . with steady Congressional support, the Constitution has not been breached.”); Orlando, 443 F.2d at 1042-43 (“[T]he test is whether there is any action by the Congress sufficient to authorize or ratify the military activity in question.”)
Page 25: Nor is there clear evidence of congressional abandonment of the authority to declare war to the President. To the contrary,
Congress has been deeply involved in significant debate, activity, and authorization connected to our relations with Iraq for over a decade, under three different presidents of both major political parties, and during periods when each party has controlled Congress. It has enacted several relevant pieces of legislation expressing support for an aggressive posture toward Iraq, including authorization of the prior war against Iraq and of military assistance for groups that would overthrow Saddam Hussein. It has also accepted continued American participation in military activities in and around Iraq, including flight patrols and missile strikes. Finally, the text of the October Resolution itself spells out justifications for a war and frames itself as an “authorization” of such a war.
roger commented:
Masa makes some valid points here. Cheeny needs to stop spouting off at the mouth.
Jamest155 commented:
obama couldn’t carry President George W. Bush’s jack strap. obama is the worst president in history. President George W. Bush is the greatest.
Joanne commented:
Is there anyone left who could possible believe Obama is on the side of the American people and troops?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmZjZmMyNmFmODU0ZGE5NjRlYTA4MzMzYmUwMzk2OGE=
“Today, New Year’s Eve, while everyone’s attention is understandably on family and friends, we learn (thanks to the ever alert Bill Roggio, reporting on the Standard’s blog) that the administration has now released Qais Qazali, Laith’s brother, who is the head of the Iran-backed terror network, in addition to a hundred other terrorists. In violation of the long-standing, commonsense policy against capitulating to kidnappers and terrorists because it just encourages more hostage-taking and murder, the terrorists were released in exchange for a British hostage and the remains of his three contract guards (whom the terrorists had murdered).
So, as the mullahs, America’s incorrigible enemies, struggle to hang on, we’re giving them accommodations and legitimacy. And the messages we send? Terrorize us and we’ll negotiate with you. Kill American troops or kidnap civilians and win valuable concessions — including the release of an army of jihadists, and its leaders, who can now go back to targeting American troops.”
daryl commented:
Did this yearling Congressman say he would debate Dick Cheney “anywhere, anytime, anyhow. And let’s see how he stands up to the truth”?
Cheney would destroy the poor schmuck.
I’d say he’s (Massa)reflecting more ego than a certain Kenyan did while struttin’ his stuff at the 2004 Dim convention.
TaSS commented:
It’s a debate I would like to see however Rep Massa would be a severe disadvantage in reality.
As vice-president, Cheney had access to a much higher security clearence then Massa. The only hope he would have is that Cheney would be limited in what he could say.
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Obama and the Military Budget
Obama: Missile Defense “Unproven” Re-cut
Obama budget cuts target military funding
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Blacque Jacques Shellacque commented:
The only hope he would have is that Cheney would be limited in what he could say.
That’s probably what Massa is counting on.
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Blackacre @ 2:58 pm #34
albeit may be a tad too deep for some..
thank you.. (thumbsup)
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squeaky commented:
didn’tobama agree to debates with mc cain that he backed away from? how can massa argue that the dems aren’t weak on defense when they worked so hard to make excuses for
their lack of support. supporting the troops but not the war……how does that wash out if the troops support the operation.
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/august/0804_obama_debate.shtml
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LibertyMinded,
i apologize for calling you names, although i assure you it was
done in a light hearted manner, it still wasn’t very mature of
me..
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Betty commented:
He was right about one thing – they need to grow a spine…and a couple of other things while they’re at it…
wanumba commented:
Joe Biden is so forgettable, he’s already a utlimate trivia question, “WHo’s the VP of the United States?”
“Uh. Dick Cheney?”
Dick Cheney on the other hand, thanks to the obsessive MSM propaganda blitz and media myth-making, is the vice president who transcends term limits.
Militant Conservative commented:
BG you jogged amemory cell of mine. Didn’t the Democrats want to “defund” the war effort but did not have the testicles for it. They are in the majority now,
whats stopping them??????? They cannot hide and point fingers at anyone but themselves. the public would see them for what they are, ANTI American Pro ddictator socialists.
jainphx commented:
I have to laugh at the trolls that come here and pick a fight with bg, they get destroyed in a matter of seconds. Never pick a fight with one that does the most extensive research and has it at her finger tips.
Roger the only SPOUTING comes from Odummo and the leftnerds like Massa, but nice try!
bg commented:
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Strong on Defense!!
terrorism??
what terrorism??
there ain’t no stinkin’ war on terrorism!!
AQ is in Afghanistan!!
they have me laughing and crying at the same
time, their idea of bipartisanship i suppose..
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Joanne @ 3:07 pm #37
that certainly deserves repeating, most especially this..
the administration has now released Qais Qazali, Laith’s brother, who is the head of the Iran-backed terror network,
in addition to a hundred other terrorists
Obama’s 1st Executive Order was the dropping
of charges against the USS COLE BOMBER..
Obama Releases Terrorist Binyam Mohamed
Did Obama Overrule Military in Gitmo Terrorist Release?
[There is significant information available indicating that Arale has been assisting various EAAQ-affiliated extremists in acquiring weapons and explosives, and has facilitated terrorist travel by providing false documents for AQ and EAAQ-affiliates and foreign fighters traveling into Somalia. Arale played a significant role in the re-emergence of the CIC in Mogadishu.”
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Arale’s attorneys have claimed that he was just an innocent peace activist and teacher who was wrongfully detained. The military clearly did not think that was true in 2007. Does it now? Or, has the Obama administration decided to release the man who was once considered a key intermediary between senior al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan and their minions in Africa?]
i’d stake my life on the latter, unfortunately for US, so does Obama by releasing these avowed jihadists right under our noses, in plain sight.. eyes wide shut, brains awash of common sense logic.. and that’s just a sample..
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roger @ 2:59 pm #35
hah, Cheney articulating facts is spouting off..
and you call Massa’s hyperboling farts making valid points..
OOOOOOk..
ROTFLMBO!!
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Militant Conservative @ 4:05 pm #47
why yes they did threaten to defund the
war, for at least 2 to 3 years i believe..
along with a timetable.. how’s that working out for
Obama.. and the war has already been won, go figure..
thank goodness their barks were worse than their bites..
tragedy is, we weren’t as fortunate when it came
to Vietnam, sadly, neither were the Vietnamese..
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bg commented:
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jainphx @ 4:16 pm #48
unfortunately for all of US, information is not only
disappearing as fast as i can get my fingers on it..
but soon after as well..
where is the internet web scrubbing outrage?? gah!!
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No Man commented:
VP Cheney would come armed with facts, the truth, and experience. The libtard would counter with hysterics, lies, and weeping.
I wouldn’t give the a$$hat the “boost” of appearing with her, ah, him?
bg commented:
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Earth to Massa.. why in heavens name would Cheney even think of lowering himself to debate an uttering guttering DemocRAT clown??
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bg commented:
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ht RG
TSA subpoenas bloggers, demands names of sources
now it’s bloggers fault they can’t keep secrets..
what did they do about the NYT release
of national security secret documents??
crickets..
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Militant Conservative commented:
BG, this time the war comes home to us. The weakening and PC has gotten where we are.
Totally exposed to the radical Muslim’s.
Lived in Dallas when 9/11 happened and the Fed’s found a link from Mrs. Kerry supporting a group out of Richardson Tx. (Mosque). with tie to Al Queda.
She may not have known what she was supporting but we do now. This is why I tell all on this site “What are YOU going to do to prepare for battle on home turf” Government not willing to protect you hell they are O.K. with a certain level of death to get thier socialist agenda passed. powder is dry.
bg commented:
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via TRBO
Glenn Beck Show December 30, 2009
[Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck Show, December 30, 2009, was guest hosted by Eric Bolling (right), Fox Business host of Happy Hour. The theme was political correctness, terrorism, Yemen, and the Obama administration’s handling of all of the above.
The first segment opened with Andrew Breitbart and Ann Coulter talking about terrorism on US soil. WSJ’s John Fund discussed Cabinet Disaster #1, Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, who will forever famous for “the system is working.” Michelle Malkin talked about the revolving door for terrorists — especially Yemeni ones — at GITMO.
Commander Kirk S. Lippold, Commanding Officer of the USS COLE when it came under a suicide terrorist attack by al Qaeda in the port of Aden, Yemen (Military Families United), and David S. Katz, CEO and founder of a security consulting firm called Global Security Group, based in New York City, talked about the recent terrorist act as well as the bombing of the COLE in October 2000.
John Stossel talked about the burgeoning growth in the US debt, particularly when Congress is in session; cap and trade, “global warming” — and the insanity of Copenhagen; and bailout mania. Stossel talked about his next show on Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged.”]
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Militant Conservative @ 7:22 pm #58
ironically, whenever i had to respond to the false claim of 9/11 being an inside job, i always said that ‘IF’ 9/11 was an inside job, then the Dems were behind it.. but it wasn’t, well, that’s what i believe as i have found
absolutely no proof whatsoever to back up the truthers accusations, but
alas i digress….
and this is damning (especially with Kerry’s record of stabbing US in the back while accruing credit for his dastardly deeds).. but it’s has gone unnoticed for years.. not to mention the fact that the Tides is involved with Apollo Alliance Acorn, etc.. amongst numerous other activist organizations in the US & many foreign countries as well..
Official: Kerry failed to act on pre-9/11 tip
officials letter page 1
officials letter page 2
copy of Sen. Kerry’s reply
The Warning Kerry Ignored
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re: bg @ #10 #11 #12
A Cold-Blooded Foreign Policy
No despot fears the president, and no demonstrator
in Tehran expects him to ride to the rescue.
DECEMBER 30, 2009; By FOUAD AJAMI
With year one drawing to a close, the truth of the Obama presidency is laid bare: retrenchment abroad, and redistribution and the intrusive regulatory state at home. This is the genuine calling of Barack Obama, and of the “progressives” holding him to account. The false dichotomy has taken hold—either we care for our own, or we go abroad in search of monsters to destroy or of broken nations to build. The decision to withdraw missile defense for Poland and the Czech Republic was of a piece with that retreat in American power.
In the absence of an overriding commitment to the defense of American primacy in the world, the Obama administration “cheats.” It will not quit the war in Afghanistan but doesn’t fully embrace it as its cause. It prosecutes the war but with Republican support—the diehards in liberal ranks and the isolationists are in no mood for bonding with Afghans. (Harry Reid’s last major foreign policy pronouncement was his assertion, three years ago, that the war in Iraq was lost.)
As revolution simmers on the streets of Iran, the will was summoned in the White House to offer condolences over the passing of Grand Ayatollah Hussein Montazeri, an iconic figure to the Iranian opposition. But the word was also put out that the administration was keen on the prospect of John Kerry making his way to Tehran. No one is fooled. In the time of Barack Obama, “engagement” with Iran’s theocrats and thugs trumps the cause of Iranian democracy.
In retrospect, that patina of cosmopolitanism in President Obama’s background concealed the isolationism of the liberal coalition that brought him to power. The tide had turned in the congressional elections of 2006. American liberalism was done with its own antecedents—the outlook of Woodrow Wilson and FDR and Harry Truman and John Kennedy. It wasn’t quite “Come home, America,” but close to it. This was now the foreign policy of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. There was in the land a “liberal orientalism,” if you will, a dismissive attitude about the ability of other nations to partake of liberty. It had started with belittling the Iraqis’ aptitude for freedom. But there was implicit in it a broader assault on the very idea of freedom’s possibilities in distant places. East was East, and West was West, and never the twain shall meet.
We’re weary, the disillusioned liberalism maintains, and we’re broke, and there are those millions of Americans aching for health care and an economic lifeline. We can’t care for both Ohio and the Anbar, Peoria and Peshawar. It is either those embattled people in Iran or a rescue package for Chrysler.
The joke is on the enthralled crowds in Cairo, Ankara, Berlin and Oslo. The new American president they had fallen for had no genuine calling or attachments abroad. In their enthusiasm for Mr. Obama, and their eagerness to proclaim themselves at one with the postracial meaning of his election, they had missed his aloofness from the genuine struggles in the foreign world.
It was easy, that delirium with Mr. Obama: It made no moral demands on those eager to partake of it. It was also false, in many lands.
Thus Turks who loathed the Kurds in their midst, who denied them the right to their own memory and language, could identify themselves, or so they said, with the triumph of Mr. Obama and his personal history. No one questioned the sincerity with which Egyptians and other Arabs hailed Mr. Obama as they refused to be stirred by the slaughter in Darfur, and as they gave a carte blanche to Khartoum’s blatant racism and cruelty.
Surely there was something amiss in Paris and Berlin—the vast crowds came out for Mr. Obama, but there were millions of Muslims in France and Germany, and the gates hadn’t been opened for them, they hadn’t been swept into the mainstream of European life. Postracicalism, rather like charity, should have begun at home, one would think.
Everywhere there is on display evidence of the rogues taking the Obama administration’s measure, and of America’s vulnerable allies scurrying for cover. A fortnight ago, Lebanon’s young prime minister made his way from Beirut to Damascus: Saad Hariri had come to pay tribute to the Syrian ruler.
Nearly five years earlier, Saad Hariri had insisted on the truth about the identity of his father’s killers. It had been a tumultuous time. Rafik Hariri, a tycoon and former prime minister caught up in a challenge to Syria’s hegemony in Lebanon, had been struck down by a massive bomb on Beirut’s beachfront. It’s obvious, isn’t it, the mourners proclaimed, the trail led to Damascus.
In the aftermath of that brazen political murder, a Syrian tyranny in Lebanon that had all but erased the border between the two countries was brought to a swift end with what would come to be known as the Cedar Revolution. The Pax Americana that had laid waste to the despotism of Saddam Hussein frightened the Syrian rulers, and held out the prospect that a similar fate could yet befall them.
We’re now worlds away from that moment in history. The man who demolished the Iraqi tyranny, George. W. Bush, is no longer in power, and a different sentiment drives America’s conduct abroad. Saad Hariri had no choice but to make peace with his father’s sworn enemies—that short voyage he made to Damascus was his adjustment to the retreat of American power.
In headier moments, Mr. Hariri and the leaders of the Cedar Revolution had been emboldened by American protection. It was not only U.S. military power that had given them heart.
There was that “diplomacy of freedom,” the proclamation that the Pax Americana had had its fill with the autocracies and the rogues of the Greater Middle East. There but for the grace of God go we, the autocrats whispered to themselves as they pondered the fall of the Iraqi despot. To be sure, there was mayhem in the new Iraq—the Arab and Iranian rulers, and the jihadists they winked at and aided, had made sure of that. But there was the promise of freedom, meaningful elections, a new dignity for men and women claiming their own country.
What a difference three or four years make. The despots have waited out that burst of American power and optimism. No despot fears Mr. Obama, and no blogger in Cairo or Damascus or Tehran, no demonstrator in those cruel Iranian streets, expects Mr. Obama to ride to the rescue. To be sure, it was in the past understood that we can’t bear all burdens abroad, or come to the defense of everyone braving tyranny. But there was always that American assertion that when things are in the balance we would always be on freedom’s side.
We hadn’t ridden to the rescue of Rwanda and Burundi in the 1990s, but we had saved the Bosnians and the Kosovars. We didn’t have the power to undo the colossus of Chinese tyranny when the tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square, but the brave dissidents knew that we were on their side, that we were appalled by the cruelty of official power.
It is different today, there is a cold-bloodedness to American foreign policy. “Ideology is so yesterday,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton proclaimed not long ago, giving voice to the new sentiment.
History and its furies have their logic, and they have not bent to Mr. Obama’s will. He had declared a unilateral end to the “war on terror,” but the jihadists and their mentors are yet to call their war to a halt. From Yemen to Fort Hood and Detroit, the terror continues.
But to go by the utterances of the Obama administration and its devotees, one would have thought that our enemies were Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, not the preachers and masterminds of terror. The president and his lieutenants spent more time denigrating “rendition” and the Patriot Act than they did tracking down the terror trail and the latest front it had opened at the southern tip of the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen. Our own leaders spoke poorly of our prerogatives and ways, and they were heard the world over.
Under Mr. Obama, we have pulled back from the foreign world. We’re smaller for accepting that false choice between burdens at home and burdens abroad, and the world beyond our shores is more hazardous and cynical for our retrenchment and our self-flagellation.
this administration is so bad, everyone but Obama & his ilk
recognize the fact that he is not on America’s side.. *sigh*
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bg commented:
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apologies.. bg @ #11 & #61
via The Wall Street Journal
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bg commented:
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re: bg @ 8:11 pm | #61
i feel i must add they also realize that Obama
et al are not on the side of FREEDOM either..
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Solaratov commented:
LibertyMinded
December 31st, 2009 | 12:31 pm | #7
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You must have “just forgotten” that congress approved – overwhelmingly – the attack on Iraq.
And, Bush did not “declare war” (other than metaphorically) on Iraq. There has been no formal declaration of war – just as there was not one in Korea or Vietnam.
Are you sure you’re in the right class at all? Perhaps you belong a couple of grades back.
bg commented:
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squeaky @ 3:42 pm #43
re: [didn’t obama agree to debates with
mc cain that he backed away from?]
yes.. “Anywhere, Anytime”
Debates: Obama Agrees To Three, McCain Wants More
[Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.
In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.]
oh brother, how backwards can he get it, not to mention not only did HAMAS endore Obama, but they campaigned for him, Aloha Akbar!!
btw, i think Obama’s lip lops have
far surpassed Kerry’s flip flops..
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Anon commented:
Far far worse scandals than LANS, and their “Lab Performance Reports Withheld” (I always prefered Dr. C. Paul Robinson, and Lockheed Martin/UT, as Director, and M&O Contract Operator of LANL, instead of Dr. Michael R. Anastasio, and LANS, respectively), and the recent LBPG incident at TA-15, are these scandals:
1. Obama´s extremely weak national security policy, foreign policy, defense policy, and US nuclear deterrence.
2. Global Warming Hoax.
3. ObamaCare.
4. Cap and Trade.
5. Obama´s $789 billion buying Democrats votes instead of jobs. (Rejected post by the leftist blog thug, Mr. Doug Roberts, at http://lanl-the-rest-of-the-story.blogspot.com/)
PS: Doug Roberts= Barack Obama
bg commented:
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ht AnnS in aprevious thread..
Abdulmutallab and the Obama Mindset
[The Obama Administration is attempting to shift blame for Abdulmutallab, pointing reporters to information that the Nigerian was given a visa by the U.S. embassy in London to travel to the U.S. in 2008, around the same time that he graduated from University College London, a well-respected university. But the State Department source says at that time Abdulmutallab was not on a watch list and traveled to Houston on that visa without incident. A year later, in May 2009, his application for a student visa to return to Britain was rejected because the college Abdulmutallab claimed he would attend was "bogus," and that red flag was shared with U.S. State Department, Homeland Security Department, U.S. Justice Department, and almost certainly U.S. intelligence agencies.]
‘strong on defense’, unfortunately, for
US.. they mean ‘of radical Muslims’..
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Anon commented:
1. When will Obama´s thugs start killing Americans??? (We know the Obama administration won´t defend US against Islamic Terrorism.)
2. Always defend thyself against tyrany, whether it´s Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ahmadinejad, or Obama´s thugs disguised as TSA agents.
Defend Freedom
Impeach Obama, and give Napolitano the boot!!!
3. Obama´s deadline for Iran´s nukes expires today, December 31, 2009. (I guess Obama won´t do anything to stop the forthcoming nukes of Iran.)
Scrapiron commented:
I would like to see this nut enter the battle of wits, unarmed, with Chaney. You may not like Chaney but he’s always right and within the law.
bg commented:
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posted this in another thread..
God Help US
["The fact that Obama has not been giving speeches with lots of platitudes in them doesn't immediately suggest that he isn't taking it seriously. I am hoping it means he understands it is a law enforcement issue."
- Mary Schiavo, former inspector general, U.S. Transportation Department]
oh frigg you (fitb), he already is & does..
they are bound & determined to tear down the protection Bush (not only busted his chops for, but everyone else busted them as well) afforded US & are building another Gorelick Wall..
i can hear the terrorists elated shouting
‘we’re Bringing it on!’ from here.. *sigh*
this country had better wake up, they’re not playing
games.. the IslaMarxists goal is a global caliphate..
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RexRedbone commented:
I am waiting for Ed Shultz to blow a vain out the top of head and have a grabber right there on the spot.Ed we are doing more than kicking in your shins.More like your groin section if we had not known the Bombers real ID and with the DHS track record it would have been made out to be a right wing terrorist who blew the plane up.Massive Kuddos to the Flying Dutchman that kept 300 hundred plus people from losing their lives not including the large loss of life on the ground had the plane blown up in air and falling wreakage.Funny how this Hero has vanished off the face while DHS hassles Bloggers and Pastor David Manning