Unbelievable. Three navy seal heroes face court-martial after capturing the Al-Qaeda leader who murdered four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004.
The Al-Qaeda leader had a bloody lip when he was arrested.
fallujah blackwater
The USA Blackwater guards were burned, beaten, dragged through the streets of Fallujah and their decapitated bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River on March 31, 2004.

FOX News reported, via Report on Arrakis:

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy’s elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral’s mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named “Objective Amber,” told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

HotAir’s Allahpundit throws the US Seals under the bus.
Black Five is not amused.

Personally, I don’t tend to trust Al-Qaeda killers.
We all saw how the Haditha story turned out. That so-called massacre turned out to be a filthy piece of Al-Qaeda propaganda that the state-run media and John Murtha used to undermine our troops in Iraq.
Maybe it’s just me, but I tend to side with Navy Seals over Al-Qaeda killers any day.

 

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  1. The solution to this PC insanity is simple and I’m sure it will be put into practice in the field by those must capable of applying it.

    After whatever intel the asset may posess is extracted.

  2. absolutely pathetic that these brave men are being charged for a bloody lip. The killer should be thankful that is all he got. What is this country turning in to?

  3. Articles like this make this former Navy Seal Instructor very upset.

  4. Whoever brought these charges should be put on trial.

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  6. Are you aware that once a military member puts his hand on someone being arrested, that military member is responsible for any damages that happen to the captured. Even a accidental punch in the face could be punishable.

  7. Unbelievable. The next time something like this occurs in the field, the motivation will be to just kill him where he lays on his yellow belly.

  8. Apparently, Allah P’s lobotomy was successful.

  9. btw, it’s probably a good thing that the SEAL’s chose court martial (as bad as it may sound) because at least they will get a jury of their peers instead of a potential PC Captain or Admiral looking for political favors in the current administration. Our military is handcuffed by politicians. Makes me sick to my stomach.

    As Kenny Solomon would say….”Locked, loaded, safeties off!”

  10. I predicted that, if elected, Obama would destroy the morale of the U. S. military, as hard as that might be. What would he be doing differently if he were a closet Muslim?

  11. Nathan

    “Are you aware that once a military member puts his hand on someone being arrested, that military member is responsible for any damages that happen to the captured. Even a accidental punch in the face could be punishable.”

    BLOW ME.

  12. ++

    we are so screwed with an IslaMarxist as CIC..

    via ITM

    Dear O and M

    The former head of the Attorney General in the criminal Court in Iraq confirm that there are documentary evidence linking Saddam Hussain’s regime to Osama Bin Laden and Al Dhawahiry his deputy at Al qaeda and that some Saudis encouraged the link between the two parties.

    One more to measure.

    It shows Bush was right in removing him from Power.

    Kind regards
    Hameed Abid

    ==

  13. Next time a boot up the a** might be a little less conspicuous but equally as effective. Those Navy Seals should receive an award for showing such restraint. This ‘we are better than them’ crap has gone so far it has come ’round full circle. Before you know it, the U.S. military will not be given ammunition for their weapons, in case they need to shoot someone shooting at them.

  14. I’m just glad General Patton isn’t alive to see this travesty. The General was known to use excessive force on the enemy and also in any cowards within the ranks.
    The border patrol is afraid to use force against drug traffickers and illegals because of there fellow agents going to prison.
    Now the military will be afraid to shoot the enemy because they will be court martial.
    I think the intelligence agencies will be receiving less captured prisoners in the future.

  15. Nathan, they could have easily killed him. BUT they didn’t. He got his lip busted, and the politically correct administration wants to “keel haul” them. If a Navy Seal stood next to you, you’d piss your panties.

  16. Well we all know how Obamao feels about the abuse of his terrorist brethren so I hope those SEAL’s have great lawyers. My stand is with them.!!

  17. Why not just zip tie our troops in Iraq and be done with it? We’ll send them a deck of cards and some DVDs and let them sit in the FOB while the bad guys get away with murder. That seems to be what the federal government wants, anyway.

  18. Midwestngr…… Didn’t know you were in The Teams…. God Bless you and I thank you.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’d put this “news item” on my page at RedState earlier this evening and like many others, sent the link to Mr. Hoft here at GP.

    As to the meat and potatoes of this latest assault on all things military by the current administration……………..

    Date of arraignment: 7 December. No way that’s a coincidence.

    An unsolicited bit of advice to those from the top of the food chain through orderlies and interns who are poking the lion: DO NOT MESS WITH THE TEAMS……. EVER.

    Other than that, I am absolutely speechless.

    Kenny Solomon
    Locked, loaded with DRT’s, safeties off.
    Bring it.

  19. Nathan said: Are you aware that once a military member puts his hand on someone being arrested, that military member is responsible for any damages that happen to the captured. Even a accidental punch in the face could be punishable.

    If terrorists are this tender maybe they’re in the wrong business, you think, Nathan?

  20. I think a captain’s mast is equal to an article 15 or company punishment in the Army/Air Force. Usually, stripes (not a flogging) are taken or a $50 fine, maybe more now.

    Either way, no way! This crap has got to be stopped right now.

    That’s why these heroes want the court martial.

    If the court convicts them, no man would know what to do about it.

  21. Kenny,

    I wasn’t in the teams, I just had the honor of teaching the those fine men a few things about “nuclear things” while I was in the Navy.

  22. No Man,

    Captains Mast is no article 15. It can be reduction in rank, fines of months of pay, thousands of dollars, not $50′s. Can even lead to a dishonorable discharge. NOT to be taken lightly.

  23. The U.S. military is now thinking like lawyers, not warriors. Some see this as a good thing. Our enemies almost certainly do.

  24. Midwestngr….. You mean teaching things like “Don’t look at the bright light” and maybe even “Wait a few minutes before advancing towards the big ground-level cloud over there.” ???

    ;-)

    Actually class, triggering systems you may or may not encounter in the field will have varied technologies and depending on adversary, can be quite rudimentary and difficult (if not near impossible) to disarm.

    Remember the old adage, KISSS…. Keep Implosion Systems Separate (from) Society and DEFINITELY DO NOT simply “put a few rounds” through a new-kew-lahr trigger set as a “disabling attempt”.

    That about right Bossman ?

  25. Easy solution. Do it The Chicago Way. Cement over shoes, wood chippers,mysterious falls from tall buildings,crushed under a jacked up vehicle after apparent failure of jack.
    Take no prisoners.

  26. Allahpundit is a little bitch and he needs to shut his nancy mouth…

  27. Memo

    From E.Holder
    To: Rahmie Baby

    Yo, Rahm,
    I was hangin with “d’man”, and he was asking if we could get these para-military goons moved to a civilian court. He says no one punches a brother on HIS watch! I think we have some judges who owe us a favor. Know anyone back in Chi-town?
    Let me know, don’t call tonight, we have an early tee-time.
    Late,
    Eric

  28. These guys should demand that they be tried in New York, in a high profile trial that puts the brass and the administration on trial in the same way Holder and BO are providing KSM an opportunity to savage the CIA and the previous adminstration.

  29. I’d like to see some bloody lips well distributed among the military brass.

    Let’s start with Casey.

  30. Where can I send money to aid in the defense of these fine shooters? Since the current administration has turned its back on our men and women in uniform maybe we should stand in their defense. It is the least we can do for those who have put themselves in harms way for our freedoms.

  31. Pretty soon the O admin is going to implement the “Barney Fife rules of engagement” – only when fired upon may you remove the bullet from your front shirt pocket and return fire…

    this story just pisses me off…

  32. Were these the same Blackwater guards who Markos Moulitsas said of: “They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.”?

  33. Instead of giving clemency to a gobbler this year, maybe the Turkey in Chief could man up and immediately pardon these brave Seals of the trumped up charges for doing their job. You don’t suppose “Object Amber-Allahu-Akbar” resisted capture or taunted his captors in order to create this situation, do you? How do we know the Iraqis didn’t apply a little “discipline” to him during the time he was in THEIR custody? The whole things looks like a setup. I’m amazed anyone enlists or re-ups these days.

  34. Were these the same Blackwater guards who Markos Moulitsas said of: “They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.”

    Yes, as you know, the very same “screw- em” Moulitsas scum that the Democrats and Obama elevated to respectability.

  35. The Grand Mufti of Chicago, Barack HUSSEIN Obama and his Imam Solicitor General ePRICK Holder demand CIVILIAN trials in NEW YORK with FULL RIGHTS as if they were American Citizens for terrorist kingpins who commited acts of barbarism in violation of the International Law of Armed Conflict, but these brave Seals will be tried by a military court for incidental injuries to a terrorist taken on the battlefield and whose injuries may have been inflicted by the IRAQIs while he was in THEIR custody or possibly SELF-INFLICTED (any witnesses?). Islamic Terrorists have more rights under the Obama Caliphate than United States Citizens serving in the United States Military to protect this country. ….Beyond disgusting.

  36. ENOUGH of this BS – prosecute the WAR not the defenders!!!

  37. Wow.
    It’s as if they’re trying to discourage real men from joining the military on puropse.
    BTW, I wish they had done more than “bloody” his lip.
    Terrorists seem to be winning the propanganda war with United States.
    With help from the United States.

  38. This is an awful story — the man who perpetrated these crimes is a barbaric beast.

    He’s lucky they didn’t just put a slug in him end it right there. Funny how he complains about his treatment, but didn’t care too much about ambushing 4 men delivering food to our troops.

    Truly disgraceful — these Navy Seals should be exonerated immediately.

  39. Well, now we know what Casey was talking about when he said, “…it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well,” regarding the Ft. Hood attack. Here’s a picture to match! So now not only diversity shackles our defenders, add hurt feelings to that. This is truly disgusting.

    Since our military has done so much for us, it’s time that we do something for them! Is there a defense fund for these heroes that we can contribute to?

  40. Intimidation and an overt attack on our military, imho. What else are we to think after all that has (or has not)happened in this administration.

    This administration despises American strength. What they don’t understand is that they are no longer in Chicago and their power is on loan…for a very short time, universal voter registrations( a huge potential for voter fraud, imho) or not.

  41. Lesson to SeALs: don’t bother arresting them. Simply end them.

  42. While I think that Allahpundit is probably correct most of the time on most of the subjects he writes about, this time he is wrong.

    Also, is it just me? I don’t think he can write. Many, many times, I will have to read and reread an AP post and I find him incomprehensible. The guy does not know how to construct a sentence.

  43. It pains me to say this but we need to get out of Afghanistan now. Anyone that thinks because Obama sends more troops that we will be fighting to win (other than the troops in the field) is dreaming. The troop surge is a political football, PC BS is in high gear on and off the battlefield and looks like it is the ROE. So what kind of “conditions” go along with the troop increase?

    It is only going to get worse as evidenced by Gen. Casey’s comments. Our troops and their families should not be asked to sacrifice any more for Generals and a Commander in Chief who do not have the will to win.

  44. He got punched?
    And?
    Let’s stop this nonsense. It’s just a waste of our money for the sake of political correctedness.
    Ahmed is a mass murderer. He killed 4 men, burned their bodies and hung them from a bridge and invited the press to photograph them. If he was punched while being subdued, I would suggest he refrains from murder and degregation.

  45. I am beyond words. I am sitting here shaking my head with my blood boiling. A fat lip? He could have sustained that “injury” in any of a number of ways. Perhaps a gift from one of his comrades in the (at the time) heavily infiltrated Iraqi security forces to frame the guys who captured this murderous scum? Perhaps one of the same Isf’s who assisted in luring those men into an ambush? Or maybe in a take down? I have seen a lot of people get injured in a take down when the person being contained is struggling. How about one or two honest Iraqi security forces that were hunted along with their families by these animals? Is it possible that they may have wanted to pop this murderer in the face? This is unmitigated BS!

    Seriously, is anyone aware of a defense fund for these Seals? I would like to donate. This is scandalous. My mind is boggled, I am totally disheartened and I am beyond productive words.

  46. I knew it. I knew this would happen in the US as well. First Germany is going to sacfirice Col. Klein on the altar of PC and leftist nonsense for calling an airstrike on a bunch of talis who butchered the crews of several fuel trucks and tried to steal those trucks. Now the US is going to do exactly the same to SEALs.

    It’s a scandal.

    That AQ leaders deserves only one thing: a good thrashing and then force feeding some pork before hanging him.

  47. Does the military want warriors of pansies? I’m tired of this. It would serve this military right now, right, if they had no soldiers, period! We are fighting a war, and as far as I’m concerned, they didn’t do enough! The higher ups in the military need to go, every branch of this government is tainted with corruption. The war and military is no place for this pc garbage, period.

  48. maybe this will get thrown out one way or another. but just the idea they would consider
    it. when those operating in dangerous waters are judged by those sitting safe and secure in their barco loungers.

  49. This kind of story makes my blood boil.
    They’ll wonder why less and less of the enemy will be captured alive.
    I blame this administration, they’re ultimately responsible.

  50. eesh – that should be david hackworth.

  51. The “Perfume Princes” (the late Col. Hackworth’s phrase) in the Pentagon are no better than politicians.

    I can not longer recommend joining the military to young people. Not until the military gets back to what their existence is for…to break things and kill people.

    Good people sleep uneasily in their beds at night only because PC idiots tie the hands of rough men trying to protect them.

  52. We need to support these heros. Any lawyers of like mind who know how to set up a defense fund? I for one will donate…and help manage the fund, if necessary. If we receive more donations than necessary to defend these heros, we can maintain a “Persecuted by PC-ness Defense Fund” and support others being persecuted by absurdity.

  53. To all that see this. It is time that military men and women stand up for these men and tell them the way it is. THEY WERE JUST DOING THE JOB THEY WERE TRAINED FOR AND SENT TO DO, GOD BLESS THEM. It is time that our goverment woke up and started taking care of our fighting men and women.

  54. P.S. Jim, your link to Black Five appears to be incorrect.

    Here’s the correct link.

  55. In a country where 100 lashes is thrown around like a handshake, this coward cries about a fat lip?? As if he doesn’t deserve to be tortured and burnt alive and his pig head staked for the world to see…and the worst of this travesty are the so-called Americans who didn’t beat his a$$ for complaining, but turned on the heroes.

    This story just makes me sick to my stomach.

  56. The notion that AllahPundit threw anyone under a bus is such nonsense. And what BlackFive did is not a smackdown, it is just a torrent of obscenities and ad hominem attacks.

  57. This is PURE OBAMA mantra.

    EUTHENIZE our veterans.

    AVOID any congressional medal of honor recipients.

    AND screw over our soldiers by calling them CRIMINALS for daring to do their jobs!

    Anyone who has read Obama’s books, listened to his interviews, or know his voting record as senator …(not to mention keep track of his actions towards the military while President) should not be surprised at the turn of events.

    And any one who is, is a fool!

  58. if you are ‘retired’ military as you say … than why the personal ‘attack’ (via saying BLOW ME).

    I do not believe you are ‘retired military’.

  59. Gee I wonder if any one ever heard of something called the Geneva Convention from the training I received I know he is unlawhul combatant not a protected party. Actually he should be tried under the provisions of the convention and face such punishment as the courtmartial shall direct. Read up on The Martens Clause and francs-tireurs.

  60. Really makes me appreciate the fact that there are still some people out there that will put a bullet int the head of the bastards instead of “capturing them” Sorry Liberals…but if you think these guys deserve to be tried, i believe you deserve to be shot right along with the dirt-bags. As for me, when I captured someone, I would shoot them after interrogating (and yes that would gladly include water-boarding (at a minimum)).

  61. Totally agree – with our fellow posters here; the chain of command in our military has been filled with treasonous bastards who are not fit to wipe the asses of the grunts; the brass should all be in prison for life, or hanged for collusion with the enemies of our Republic!!
    . Remember charging our Marines for murder – after a combat action???
    Now charge our SEALS with brutalizing a psychopathic butcher?
    SCREW the candy-ass brass and yellow scumbag desk pilots – they are no better than the effing al-quaida! -
    and as Pershing might have said, Troops: you are not responsible for bringing back corpses.

    Get your intel, however you find expedient, and then a bullet through the head. Story finished.
    Anybody ever wonder why ‘fragging’ first began????

  62. The roots of these charges can be traced back to last 13 April. Please read the following transcript from Rush’s show. It’s an eyeopener.

    CALLER: Good. I just wanted to call and kind of give a little more insight
    on this SEAL team situation. I was in the teams for 20 years. I have
    multiple-decade military service and came in not long after Vietnam. I also
    worked for Blackwater for a few years in Iraq and know one of the guys that
    was killed at Fallujah quite well. But, anyway, the point I’m going to get
    at here is that I think there’s quite a bit of evidence that this is kind of
    a backwash from the situation of a couple months ago when the SEAL operators
    rescued Captain Phillips off the coast of Somalia. You may recall that
    situation.

    RUSH: Yes, I do.

    CALLER: Well, the truth behind that situation is that the SEAL operators
    were kept off the scene for well over 36 hours. There was a lot of foot
    dragging by the commander-in-chief’s people in letting them in the theater.
    After they were in theater and in place they were given a very restrictive
    ROE: Rules Of Engagement. The ROE was so restrictive that really they
    couldn’t engage their targets. There were two previous opportunities to
    rescue Captain Phillips, and they were not allowed to take those
    opportunities.

    RUSH: Let me stop you here because people may not know. We’re talking
    Somali pirates. We’re talking about the Maersk cargo ship that a bunch of
    Somali pirates, teenagers, took over. One of them eventually died, and the
    media credited Obama — honest to God, folks, the media credited Obama –
    with giving the order to pull the trigger. Now you may resume the story,
    sir.

    CALLER: Okay. When they finally did engage the hostiles, they did it
    liberally interpreting the ROE, and the on-site commander finally was kind
    of fed up with the situation and gave them a weapons-free command and they
    were able to engage and rescue Captain Phillips. The fallout from that was
    immediate and rather violent in its anger. The White House people — I
    don’t know the president himself, I just know their representatives with the
    chain of command — were absolutely livid with this and they did not want
    the rescue to be conducted in the way that it was. You know, I cannot prove
    this because I would have to give names and I’m not giving names for obvious
    reasons. But the bottom line is that on very good, solid inside information,
    the national command authority past the Pentagon was not happy.

    RUSH: So let me cut to the chase here. So what I think I hear you saying
    is the blowback that you mentioned is, this is payback for the SEALs
    violating the ROE on this captain of the Maersk; and this is the chain of
    command reasserting itself, letting everybody knows who’s boss and what’s
    going to happen to you if you don’t follow orders?

    CALLER: That is my rather experienced opinion — and, frankly, the opinion
    of others. I am very close to the special operations community here in North
    Carolina, and, you know, that opinion is surfacing. These people are very
    vindictive — and you have to understand, Mr. Limbaugh, you’re very
    pro-military, and you always say wonderful things about our people in
    service, and we greatly appreciate it. But I do have to say this, and I’d
    like to make this one point. I’ve had two sons, by the way. My two eldest
    sons have done multiple tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military of
    today is not the military that fought World War II. It is not even the
    military that fought the first Gulf War. It is a military that has been
    thoroughly politicized. It is a military that is suffering the fallout of
    Patricia Schroeder’s ridiculous, politically correct policies that still
    have great power and sway in the military. And I’m just going to have to
    tell you: I do not mean to impugn the junior personnel in the military, the
    line troops, the junior officers. I’m not talking about these people.
    These people are doing a fine job. They’re outstanding people. But the
    senior ranking, the civilian and senior ranking military personnel are
    thoroughly indoctrinated and on board with this politically correct agenda
    that’s in the military.

    RUSH: Yeah. I’ll tell you the most recent example of it. A glaring example
    was General Casey, more concerned about the “diversity” in his Army than the
    loss of life at Fort Hood.

    CALLER: General Casey, sir, and Wesley Clark are not the exceptions in the
    upper echelons. They are the rule. Those are the kinds of men that are
    running the show and they will throw the junior personnel under the bus to
    save themselves every time. And that is my opinion. Again, I don’t mean to
    impugn any of the junior people.

    RUSH: We know what you mean. We know exactly what you mean.

    CALLER: Okay.

    RUSH: Everything’s been politically correctized — chickified, if you will.
    That’s one of the things I call it. Can you hold on for a break?

    CALLER: Certainly.

    RUSH: I want you to explain to people what you meant. I think I know what
    you meant by the Patsy Schroeder stuff, Tailhook and all that, but I want
    you to explain exactly what you mean by that ’cause I’m sure you’ve got a
    lot of people curious.

    BREAK TRANSCRIPT

    RUSH: We rejoin our call with Greg from parts unknown in North Carolina, a
    former member of the Navy SEAL team who two sons who served two tours each
    in Iraq and Afghanistan. What was it that Pat Schroeder did when she was a
    member of Congress from Colorado?

    CALLER: I guess the question would be: What didn’t she do? She was very
    influential in passing legislation and putting pressure on the military to
    basically and fundamentally feminize the military. I can speak most clearly
    about the Navy, ’cause that was my experience at the time, especially when
    Admiral Kelso — who was the CNO at the time — kind of completely caved in
    after Tailhook and started instituting things like putting females on
    man-o-war, having the mixed training companies in boot camp and the like.
    And what Patricia Schroeder did was, with a really rather small cabal of
    very ambitious military officers — who, by the way, violated military rules
    and regulations by petitioning in uniform on Capitol Hill for these changes,
    but nobody seemed to notice that — were able to pass a lot of regulations
    through the Navy and the other branches that have, frankly, incorporated
    women into areas of the military where, being old-fashioned, I do not
    believe that they belong. And this has caused numerous problems throughout
    the military. Beyond that, I’m not exactly sure what else you would like me
    to add.

    RUSH: No, I thought that’s what you were talking about but I wanted people
    to hear you say it. Pat Schroeder was very liberal, huge feminist, and I
    wanted you to say the feminization. My word for it is chickification. But
    it’s happening throughout our culture. It’s happening throughout the media
    as well. And it’s turning people soft and touchy-feely and so forth. And I
    know what you mean: There’s no room for that on the battlefield.

    CALLER: There is none. And I’m very concerned about the future of our
    nation’s military. Again I do not mean to minimize the dangers that our
    military personnel are facing in this war. However, it isn’t a full-scale,
    knock-down-drag-out between conventional fighting forces. I am concerned
    that if we ever do engage in that sort of warfare again — and I think it’s
    ultimately inevitable, I’m afraid — that our military is not in the place
    where it needs to be.

    RUSH: Meaning? This is scary. Meaning they’re not committed to victory,
    that there are other things which take precedence?

    CALLER: Absolutely, sir. And, frankly, there’s a billion Chinamen that are
    becoming more and more bellicose by the day, are being armed at our expense
    and with our expertise, and are becoming a growing threat by the day, and I

    RUSH: I wouldn’t worry about that. Obama charmed them on that trip over
    there. He bowed down.

    CALLER: I saw that, as he bowed to their prime minister as well.

    RUSH: Greg, I gotta go. I’m outta time sadly, but it’s wonderful that you
    got through. A thanksgiving blessing this audience got to hear you today.
    Thank you, sir.

    CALLER: Thank you very much, Mr. Limbaugh.

  63. How do we stop this? Who do we call to help these brave SEAL’S?

  64. *** Tell the brass to kiss your brass ***

    Voice you opinion by contacting the following:

    To file a citizen complaint regarding the treatment of these Navy Seals, please call (813) 828-4976 on Monday… or send emails now to holly.silkman@soccent.centcom.mil

    US Navy Judge Advocate General’s Corps
    The Office of the Judge Advocate Genera, Public Affairs
    1322 Patterson Ave., Suite 3000
    Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5066
    Comm: (202) 685-5493
    Washington Navy Yard: (202) 685-5190
    Pentagon, Room 4C642: (703) 614-7420

    AJAG, Military Law : 1254 Charles Morris St., SE
    Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5047
    Comm: (202) 685-7053

  65. What does are military do now. Courts martial services members with out substantiated evidences.

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