Dems PASS Nationalized Health Care Bill (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, November 7, 2009, 10:08 PM
It’s done.
The democrats just passed their nationalized health care bill.
Pelosi just announced the bill passed.
Democrats cheer on the House floor after taking over the nation’s health care industry.
Liberty died to thunderous applause.
U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, released the following statement regarding the passage of a 2,000-page health care bill in the House of Representatives:
“This 2,000-page bill goes in exactly the wrong direction: it means higher premiums, higher taxes, Medicare cuts, more debt & huge new health-care costs for state taxpayers. Instead we should start over and go step by step. Specifically, we could start with small business health care plans that would lower premiums, cover up to 1 million new small business employees, and reduce spending on Medicaid.”
God help us.
Drudge reported on the bill earlier–
PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail;
Failure to Comply, 5 Years in Prison...
Final vote could be delayed Sunday or beyond...
And, democrats just took the first big step to cramming it down our throats.
More… President Obama acknowledged today that he and Bill Owens pulled a health care fast one on the voters in NY-23.
Legal Insurrection has a first take on the passage of the nationalized health care bill.
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bg commented:
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toldya..
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Brad commented:
Wonder who the last remaining Dem holdout is. Brave vote…
Hypogean commented:
We knew this was coming. Now the Democrats own it. Let’s make them pay like they never thought they would.
jesme commented:
Okay, but this hasn’t been reported anywhere else.
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Tom63010 commented:
Can’t wait until Nov. 2010!
Bailey commented:
Who was the RINO that voted yea???
Cajun_Mike commented:
One republican voted for the bill. I bet it’s Cao from Louisiana.
Mike commented:
One Republicam voted for it, who was it
Hypogean commented:
Cao (R-LA) voted for it.
jesme commented:
Oh…wait. There it is. Sorry.
Brad commented:
One Republican voted yes?????? Who? Who?
Cajun_Mike commented:
I was right, C-span just announced it was him. Cao should be banished from the republican party right now.
Nobama commented:
isnt it disgusting. The total shows one republican turncoat voting yes. hard to believe, but that person needs to be defeated as do all those dems voting for healthcontrol. Wonder how many bridges or runways Pelosi had to give away. Some repub. from Louisianna voted FOR this debacle.
Mike commented:
That Scumbag
myna commented:
Time to vote out all democrats who voted for it. Let us not let them enjoy the monstrosity they created.
CJ commented:
If I’m not mistaken, Cao has Jefferson’s old seat. For now.
Nicholas commented:
Cao is done. We don’t allow commies.
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manateespirit commented:
I am so angry right now, I can’t even begin to know what to say. Other than I hope these Democrats who voted to put my children into debt even before they started working…are trying to take away my rights of choice and fine me for the mere act of existence..excuse me, I am so furious right now I can barely type…I hope they rot in hell for the mess they are putting this country through.
I hope this revolution for the PEOPLE becomes louder as we take back this government. Apparently, this group does not care one whit on what we want or how to be fiscally responsible.
Off with their heads…figuratively, of course. Now to work with the Senate….but if they don’t listen to us in the House, do we have any hope with this next set of pirates?
Ginger commented:
Yes, and I want to take that ass hole Hurdo to the wood shed! Ass holeCan’t spell the ass holes name. Gotta leave Fox! Can’t stand that libral scum bag.
Chip Bennett commented:
Go ahead and start packing your office, Cao, you traitor. Voters have a VERY LONG memory right now.
You just voted away your political career for a bill that won’t pass the Senate. Well played.
Bailey commented:
Lets all get busy campaigning against these socialists.
Cajun_Mike commented:
Cao won William Jefferson’s seat and he’s trying to show all of those folks in corrupt New Orleans that he will deliver big govt. goodies too. This clown is a fool if he thinks he has any chance at winning reelection by those people in New Orleans. He can vote with the Dems on every vote and those New Orleans voters will insist on having an african-american democrat in his seat
JR commented:
So when are we marching on Washington?
I’m so ready.
Mike commented:
When’s the next march, we need millions again!
jb commented:
Goodnight, America
How are ya?
Say don’t ya know me
I’m you’re native son . . .
Representative gummint, my ass.
Chrissy commented:
So sorry America may have to suffer the same health care as the UK has.
Kelli commented:
It is definitely on now. Come on 2010 and 2012 lets get rid of the democrats that passed the socialism health care bill and get rid of Benedict Cao who voted for the socialism health care bill! Bye Nancy Pelosi and all the democrats who voted for the bill. I thank the democrats who voted against the socialism health care bill.
JenBee commented:
With the passage of this bill it’s official: America is a sinking ship. With our $11.9+ trillion dollar debt, our pathetic, sinking dollar, and our tax-and-spend Manchurian candidate with over three years left in his term, there is absolutely no hope for America now.
Callipygian1 commented:
The Democrats deserve the kind of health care the government will provide.
Mike commented:
Texas bound! Maybe I can get there ahead of the rush that is about to start.
Steve commented:
Hand delivering pink slips in person will be our next millions march on DC.
Hypogean commented:
manateespirit
November 7th, 2009 | 10:16 pm | #18
Now to work with the Senate….but if they don’t listen to us in the House, do we have any hope with this next set of pirates?
I’m assuming it’ll pass in the Senate, too, and become law. But that doesn’t scare me. We’re in uncharted political waters now. Anything can happen. I never counted on this being stopped by our politicians, because almost all of them are in it for themselves. I always expected that it would become law, and then there would be a political earthquake that would result in true reform on a level that we’ve never seen.
Sometimes it takes a Pearl Harbor to wake people up.
wanumba commented:
And don’t forget prison for the Middle Class.
There are so many people at this moment who can’t pay for the family premium, and they get fines and a felony for it? What? Send the parents to pound sand behind bars and put the kids into what … day care?
The meanness of the Democrats is what’s so stunning. They’ve been the richest, best fed, best housed, best mobile, most leisure time generation in HISTORY and it’s made them not generous and kind, no worries, but nasty. UGH!
Mike commented:
The Change I will believe in starts in 2010. I will contribute money to defeat this CAO from LA even though I live in the great state of MO. This is to every yes vote out there: As long as I’m employed, I will contribute to defeating the RINOS and the DEMOS. For those DEMS that voted against this bill, I will research why you voted against it. If its because the amendment on abortion funding, you are in my crosshairs! And to the MSM, you will further be marginalized if you don’t realize you are a pawn in this game. Conservatives are right, libturds are wrong, end of story!
JR commented:
Bullfeathers. One big loss and you’re throwing in the towel?
I’m just warming up.
Danny Bartlett commented:
Maybe he voted yea so he could be the one to move to reconsider.
jb commented:
Mike–
Get here quick.
‘Course, ya gotta deal with the Cowboys mentality (foorball), and the heat . . .
But . . .
We got the oil! heh!
Mike commented:
The last gumment program that was repealed was………..
Mrs. P commented:
I just sent Cao and e-mail….get ready for early retirement….You just got your “Pink Slip”!!
Karen commented:
This will end badly for our gangster government.
JR commented:
I’m with Mike.
Let’s start with Claire. Send her home crying to MO, sputtering something about how she meant well.
Mike commented:
I hate winter, so it works out swimmingly. Have any openings for firemen?
Callipygian1 commented:
He’s for sale…
Comrade Stalin commented:
Comrades Welcome to the Socialized States of America. Today marks the final push to capture 50%of the former USA`s wealth. Sing the slogans. Praise the Messiah for tomorrow its off to the gulags with all of you.
The union workers who thought they would be welcome will now be fired for the smallest of infractions,transferred to ditch digging at our whelm. Calling in sick will mean instant termination.We are all for the working man as long as he is our slave.
2010 there is no 2010 because we now control the calender and 2011 is the next year you will see.2012 will also disappear. From then on there will be election years because we have no further need of elections.
Hypogean commented:
JenBee
November 7th, 2009 | 10:23 pm | #27
With the passage of this bill it’s official: America is a sinking ship. With our $11.9+ trillion dollar debt, our pathetic, sinking dollar, and our tax-and-spend Manchurian candidate with over three years left in his term, there is absolutely no hope for America now.
Garbage. Absolute nonsense. This isn’t World War II. This isn’t the Great Depression. This isn’t the Civil War, for God’s sake. We’ve faced much worse and emerged victorious. Stop whining. It’s embarrassing.
Mike commented:
I feel an earthquake of rage from around the nation!
jb commented:
Mike–
Apply to the City of Houston, or any of the surrounding municipalities.
I think some serious shyte is about to hit the fan on the state level–in several states.
Mike commented:
You go Mrs P
Mike commented:
Houston maybe, or perhaps the western desert. Lonestar here I come!
TheScribbler commented:
Will Obama pay for my healthcare when I gouge my eyes out watching Pelosi & ilk gloating during the press conference. Some how, I doubt it.
Nicholas commented:
@ Mike
Texas is the future. I support secession.
Tim commented:
Nancy Pelosi looks like a bag of pus.
AzEric commented:
The gloating Nancy Pelosi…I can’t wait for the day a conservative snatches that gavel from her hand. Dennis Miller has her pegged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZzQhw_2xg&feature=player_embedded
“You know I wouldn’t even go near Nancy Pelosi because they’re are people in my life I disagree with. There are other people in my life that bug me. Then there are people in life that I think are karma compromisers. If you hang out with them you literally put yourself in harm’s way as far as karma because they are that bad of person. I think Pelosi is a karma compromiser… I think to be around Pelosi and not call her on being a vapid, insipid, empty-headed and nasty piece of work she is puts your own karma in compromise.“
Nicholas commented:
@Hypogean
Marxist governance is worth being pissed over. And it is bad, Marxism results in death.
pjean commented:
THIS IS NOT OVER. If they thought the American people were mad before the vote, the fury they will now see will blow them away.
This is a pathetic showing for support. NOTHING to be proud about.
Mon commented:
Aside from the expense of Commie-Health Care bill, wonder how much Pork in bribe money was promised?
wanumba commented:
To further highlight the chasm between real compassion and the phony version, former President Bush and his wife Laura showed up at Ft Hood privately to meet with the wounded soldiers and their families. No photographers.
Obama, the Commander In Chief can’t be bothered.
We have PRE-Traumatic Stress Syndrome at Ft. Hood – soldiers starting combat duty BEFORE Deployment and Obama the man-boy don’t care.
Ft. Hood sustained more casualties than that Afghan outpost the Dems are using as an excuse to pull back.
manateespirit commented:
Hypogean
November 7th, 2009 | 10:25 pm |#31
I hope you are right. I hope if it DOES ultimately pass, it can be repealed. Do you think these politicians even paid attention in their town halls this summer? Did they think we did it because we had nothing else better to do with our time? Do they not believe they will be voted out in 2010?
It must be a combination of ignorance and arrogance. Probably 95% arrogance…unless you are Russ Carnahan. Then it’s 99% ignorance. Or stupidity. Sorry. I’m feeling a bit on edge for some reason….
checkers commented:
Anyone who thinks we can just “undo” this bill in a few years is delusional. Name one government agency that has been eliminated or reduced in size in our lifetime? ( well except the military under a democrat).
As soon as Republicans try to “unpass” the bill the opposition will trot out all the crybabies who are going to die without their rightful government insurance, and will proceed to paint conservatives as uncaring and greedy. Look at Britain. The only thing that conservative politicians there can do is try to argue about who is going to spend less to provide the public with more. There is no politician who can ever say we are going to provide the public with less period. Ain’t ever going to happen. We are Britain now.
enoxo commented:
Cao isn’t going to get re-elected anyhow. He replaced Cold Cash Jefferson, and he’s not likely to win re-election next year in a very Democrat district.
Plus his vote came after they already received 218, so I believe Cantor told him to go ahead and vote Yes to try to win support from the democrats in his district. But it won’t matter.
Hypogean commented:
Nicholas
November 7th, 2009 | 10:33 pm | #54
@Hypogean
Marxist governance is worth being pissed over. And it is bad, Marxism results in death.
Who said you can’t be angry? I want everyone to be angry. What I oppose is saying that there’s absolutely no hope for the U.S. We’ve been through much worse than this and not only survived but emerged stronger. Instead of giving up, let’s fight.
“Anger is an energy.”
–Johnny Rotten
jb commented:
Sports Fans–
There are seminal moments in the history of America–none of which find their origins in DC. The momentous changes that have permitted us to survive, and prosper, have been brought about in spite of the political prostitutes in DC.
Will this be one? Very hard to say. My gut tells me this vote took the pressure off the Senate, and they will fold their tents, and ultimately approve this Bavarian Fuster Cluck.
It is not like this is a sudden occurrence. It has been coming for years, and many have ignored it–never imaging that it could happen. Well–now it has.
And now we will find out if watering the tree of liberty is worth the effort.
Mrs. P commented:
Send Joe and e-mail….I just put in his own LA office address and my e-mail.
http://josephcao.house.gov/Contact/
Mike commented:
I can’t believe the Dems had this much trouble. can you imagine how this would be portrayed if the Repubs were in the majority and one with 2 votes to spare?
Cargosquid commented:
Lamar Alexander is WRONG. They should not start over. They should not improve the bill.
What they need to do is STOP! There is NO Constitutional authority to do any of this!
Tar, Feathers, Congress…….An idea whose time has come….
Hypogean commented:
checkers
November 7th, 2009 | 10:37 pm | #59
Anyone who thinks we can just “undo” this bill in a few years is delusional.
Americans aren’t Europeans. We’re in completely uncharted political territory now. Anything can happen. You can give up; that’s fine. I’m not going to, and I’m going to argue with all of you who are urging us to throw up our hands and cry like you. I’m simply not going to stop fighting. Sorry. But you’re free to surrender. Go for it.
OakvilleVoter commented:
What a bunch of spineless worms. Let’s pass this at 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Russ Carnahan, you are done. Thanks for nothing creep!
This is a big campaign issue now until forever.
Fred commented:
It’s not ‘done’. It still has to pass the senate.
Ginger commented:
Those librals are the lowest of the low. Scums of the earth. Well paybacks are hell. WE are going to take those ass holes down. Power in numbers.
Always remember there is power in numbers!
manateespirit commented:
Waxman is speaking now about Pelosi:
“I have never seen anybody like her…and she will emerge as one of the greatest Speakers of the House.”
Are we living on the same planet? And now they are applauding tax cheat Charlie Rangel?
I detest the Democrats. I’m sorry, but I do. They sell us down the river and they tell us they are doing it “for us”. Oh, how benevolent. But they got it wrong…they are doing it “to us”.
Mrs. P commented:
I already sent Russ “Beavis” Carnahan a sweet note too!! Early retirement for him too
GO ED MARTIN 2010!!
Fred commented:
Why aren’t we in D.C. rioting? Holding up traffic? Going on strike across the country?
Saying we’re mad as hell and not going to take it anymore?????
Mike W commented:
Surrender??? Aw Nuts!!!
Fred commented:
Oh, and it’s a great way to get the terrorist attack off the news, eh?
Callipygian1 commented:
The speeches are going on now; Rangel just spoke and passed the mike on to George Miller… when they shook hands, I could swear that Miller checked to see if his watch was still there.
Smarmy idiots.
Palinfan commented:
What is the chance this passes the Senate?
Ryan commented:
There is no giving up. As long as my Savior gives me breath I will fight these Statist extremists. I could be the last man standing for liberty in this country and I would stand as strong. They can pass any piece of garbage they deem appropriate but it will come back to haunt them. You reap what you sow and and it appears 2010 will be a record harvest.
Hypogean commented:
Manateespirit, it doesn’t matter if the politicians paid attention or not. All that matters is that the electorate be fired up, which it is.
Nationalized health care won’t work, and we can’t pay for it. That will ensure that if it becomes law it will be repealed. Keep in mind that even though the mainstream media is still in total cheerleader mode for Obama, support for his policies is cratering. The truth about him is becoming apparent. That means people are doing their own research.
This bill is full of draconian new restrictions, penalties, and taxes. The public opposed it before most of them knew the specifics. Now that it’s been passed, we’re going to find out all about it. If it becomes law, the electorate will not shrug its collective shoulders and passively accept a lower standard of living.
Instead of being afraid, get angry! Take back control of our politics. As Obama himself strongly advocates, never let a crisis go to waste.
maggie commented:
Say no to socialized medicine. Refuse to sign up.
Now onto RECALL elections NOW.
Nobama commented:
We do need to double our efforts now. If you have a dem as a rep make sure you do everything to get rid of them in 2010. Lucky for me I have a republican that stands with us. I will work and give money to get rid of Carnihan.
Stephen commented:
There is yet hope and that is in the Senate. The delay tell past Christmas and the backlash from this vote may hammer home that anyone who votes for this who is not in a San-Fran style liberal district is going to have their political career torpedoed. Without the Senate vote, this can go nowhere and the Senate is the key–the only hope as no nation which has passed anything like this has ever been able to repeal it.
Tim commented:
Anybody see a list of the Dems who didn’t vote for it?
WeWillRepeal commented:
We will Repeal this bill, if it passes the Senate, in 2013. The House will be flipped to Republicans in 2010, but may not have the 2/3 numbers to override Obama’s veto. If Romney, or Pawlenty, or Palin is elected in 2012, America will rise from these ashes. The National Republicans need to ORGANIZE the most targeted and central-networked strategy in history to elect as many conservative Republicans as possible. The democrat strategists will be hoping that our attention is so divided up among the many republican campaigns, that we cannot come together on campaigns and fundraising like the Hoffman campaign. Republican and Conservative national strategists need to build a CENTRAL website, that spotlights key canidates that are lagging, and at the same time focuses on ALL of them as well. They could ROTATE the canidates that are spotlighted to maximize national attention on all of them. This strategy would help to network the local canidate’s supporters with national campain donors and supporters. The Republicans need to build the most talented team in history to flip this house next year. If they are not already gaming this out, they best get with it now.
Bob commented:
Please everyone get ready to call and email the republican turncoat. Call twice and email all week. Pledge to give money to whoever runs against him. The traitor has to go along with as many democrats as we can. Call all of them too
bg commented:
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checkers @ 10:37 pm #60
re: [Anyone who thinks we can just “undo”
this bill in a few years is delusional.]
that’s what i’ve been hearing more & more of..
just like someone lying pre-election, same goes for
the “if that do that; then we can do this” solutions..
they LIE LIE LIE..
then they lower the TRUTH boom..
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larry7 commented:
Such bad news. What is wrong with these people?
redc1c4 commented:
“God help us.”
better that we help ourselves, and ask God to chip in when we really need it.
jb commented:
Anyone can call me on this if I am wrong . . .
Snowe will go for it in the end, and Lieberman has all the spine of a single-cell amoeba–he’s like Specter–anything to keep the job and perks.
62-38 . . . 61-39 at best (or worst). Unless they invoke Senate rules for a simple majority–then it flies through.
Geraldo and his guest are celebrating the “bi-partisan” vote.
That sick puppy needs a job as Olbermann’s co-host on that other channel.
It will get very interesting from here on out.
Ginger commented:
OK! I’ve got my frying pan and i’m on my way to bang some heads!
AS that wonderful HERO said on 9/11
“Let’s roll.”
MR.ED commented:
WAR
myna commented:
Move to San Francisco and vote out Pelosi in 2010.
Bob commented:
they can find a way not to fund it. We need to win big in 2010
jonyjoe101 commented:
Something that always happen is politicians use a major news event to distract the public and pass massive bills.
Cap and trade passed while the American public was distracted with the Michael Jackson (RIP nambla member) accidental drug overdose death/HOMOcide.
Obamacare was pass while Americans where in mourning over the Fort Hood Muslim terrorist attack.
The democrats where serious about never letting a good crisis go to waste. They know no shame.
Nan commented:
Dems, Thanks for taking down the shining city on the hill, you will live to regret it. Can’t wait until your families realize what you have done to them! They will find out soon enough.
Solaratov commented:
checkers
November 7th, 2009 | 10:37 pm | #59
You’re wrong. This is not politics as usual – and millions of people are seeing that. Just because something has never happened before doesn’t mean it won’t happen. There will be a whole new breed of Conservatives taking over the government who will be able to do the right thing. Who *will* do the right thing because they will have been sent to congress to do right or get fired. This bill will be repealed! But it’s going to take a lot of work by a lot of people — and a lot less whining about the democrats screwing us over. Paybacks gonna be a real, cast-iron bi*ch.
And, as for everybody carrying on about this: why? We *knew* it was going to pass. We knew that the democrats would ignore the people and ram this sh*t sandwich down our throats. It’s not a surprise, by any stretch.
After the way that the democrats mocked and reviled the tea party participants, did anyone *really* expect them to pay attention to the message that we were/are sending to them? In their arrogance, they actually believe that they are untouchable — and it’s up to us to show them just how wrong they are.
And it’s got to start now!! We have to start supporting the right people to run – and WIN in 2010. We have to fight the democrat machine and all its tangled arms; which, together, form one of the most formidible opponents we’ll have to fight. And we’ve got to be willing to get our hands just a little “dirty”. We can’t let them do what they did in ’08 while we try to play all sweetness-and-light. We’re going to have to get right down in the mud and the blood and fight the miserable creatures where they live, using their tactics and outding them at their own game.
This fight is a long way from over, people. Don’t start going wobbly because of one setback that we expected to happen anyway.
Just Sayin' commented:
Long overdue–glad you guys all like it!
Hypogean commented:
Tee-hee!
Mike O commented:
All the Dems who voted No after they had 218 need to be identified; theirs were votes of political expediencies. And they all need to be voted out of office by resounding margins.
Wyatt Earp commented:
Bastards just mortgaged our future.
Remember this, because the voters in this country have a severe case of short-term memory. Vote them out. All of them!
Campaign slogan for 2010, 2012... commented:
I, as a Republican candidate, promise to do everything in my power to undo EVERY dastardly thing that the democrats have done to undermine this extraordinary country and its providential Constitution.
Just Sayin\' commented:
Cao from Louisiana–now THERE’S a guy with a PAIR!
If HE runs for President in 2016 (after Obama’s second term ends), I just might vote for him.
Ginger commented:
Hey I have an idea. Let’s go to the White House and pull out all our signs that says the same thing……. Barry/Obama show us your REAL birth certificate. You think the media will print/air it?
Just Sayin\\\' commented:
“Obamacare was pass while Americans where in mourning over the Fort Hood Muslim terrorist attack.The democrats where serious about never letting a good crisis go to waste. They know no shame.”
Which would be a really good point, jonyjoe, if the House vote hadn’t been scheduled for today last Wednesday–and if the Fort Hood massacre hadn’t happened on Thursday.
Oh yeah, it would be better if you were LITERATE, too, along with being informed. “Were” is not spelled “where.”
WeWillRepeal commented:
Winning strategy #2 for flipping the House and Senate in 2010: Talk to as many union members as possible, and ask them for once, to vote for their Country instead of voting democrat, like their union bosses pressure them into. The most vulnerable voting bloc is the union vote, and Rahm Emanuel know this and HOPES that we don’t go after it agressively. If union members start defecting in the polls in 2010, and go with the Republicans, Rahm and Obama KNOW THEY ARE FINISHED. We are NOT going to convince radical feminists and gays to vote Republican. It is a waste of time. Focus on the union members and minorities.
Hypogean commented:
Who’s lamer, the conservatives blubbering about how this is the end of everything, or the liberals sticking out their tongues like children?
Me, I just want people to be sober. Is that too much to ask? Are we living in an era of universal melodramatic, narcissistic TV-overstatement now?
jb commented:
I want to be optimistic, but Gramsci is proving himself a prophet of the first order.
Just Sayin' commented:
“We are NOT going to convince radical feminists and gays to vote Republican. It is a waste of time. Focus on the union members and minorities.”
Um, yeah–that’ll work!
Kevin commented:
As at has been stated in a previous posting, the Republicans (if they were smart enough) could have voted “present” on the Stupak Amendment and that would have left the so called “Blue Dogs” having to show their real colors.
In addition, the Michael Steele experiment hasn’t worked out. It’s time to throw out Steele, bring in George Allen and start cleaning house.
Hypogean commented:
This United States is not Italy.
Just Sayin\' commented:
“It’s time to throw out Steele, bring in George Allen and start cleaning house.”
ANOTHER good idea! George Effing Allen–now THERE’S a guy with a lot of political clout!–can come in and start talking about what “macacas” both Steele and Obama are. I know that will capture the Skinhead/neo-Nazi/White Power/Drooling Idiot vote at least!
Ariel commented:
Whoever furnished the Dennis Miller clip, thank you.
Best, most specific description of Nancy Pelosi ever, observing that her actual soul reeks of something toxic enough to infect even her companions.
Atlanta Media Guy commented:
Hate to be the pessimist…
Tonight healthcare.
Energy is next with Cap and Tax
Then they’ll stifle free speech or rather shut down conservative talk radio and internet sites.
It’s coming, trust me.
Next year election slogan for democrats.
Vote for my re-election or this nasty conservative republican will take your health care away, dirty the environment and cut your taxes. Those conservatives are really dirty!
Thanks George Soros, hey is he even and American? By 2012, we’ll be a bankrupt Islamic nation, kind of like Afghanistan.
What has happened to America?
anon commented:
I believe it won’t take affect until 2013 thus it can be overturned.
S. Wolf commented:
No, Ginger, they won’t. But if thousands were to moon the WH this would get media play. 2010 and repeal the bulls is the best bet.
Mike, I did a bit of lookup. Welcome to Texas and for God sake never say “swimmingly” down here.
Texas Commission on Fire Protection
Texas Fire Departments
Fire Department Directory
STATE OF TEXAS
Houston Fire Department
Hypogean commented:
For everybody who says this couldn’t be repealed after it becomes law:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjJmZGU1NmUzMmE0OWQ1NDk2YjUzOWE1ZjhjYjhjMWM=
If we elect conservatives, we’ll be able to do it. And you can bet that the Democrats are headed for electoral catastrophe. Take heart. We’ve faced worse before and triumphed over it.
Matt Helm commented:
We’re still in the first quarter, folks. Halftime isn’t until the end of the 2010 elections. You know who to vote out of office in 2010.
WeWillRepeal commented:
Karl Rove needs to get off his Punditry-high-horse and get back into the game of helping to flip the house in 2010. It’s entertaining having him spout off statistics and political trivia on Fox News, but his talents would be better serving to get more Republicans elected. Hey Karl, get back in the game man!
Hypogean commented:
“By 2012, we’ll be a bankrupt Islamic nation, kind of like Afghanistan.”
I’ll answer my own question: The blubbering conservatives are much lamer than the liberals jeering that the House of Representatives just passed a massively destructive, horrendously incompetent bill that has no chance of working if it becomes law.
Steve commented:
Last sentence of the Gettysburg Address.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government: of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
jb commented:
Hypogean–
Just how far into the marxist camp do we have to wander before your warning flags pop up?
I agree that this is not the end per se, but we are not a people famous for repealing anything–except Prohibition.
And that must be taken into your equation–slamming others won’t do jack. If this passes the Senate, which I am certain it will do, we are going to find ourselves in a very interesting situation. Pillow patriots and sofa soldiers won’t do much of anything, and doing the same old stupid thing of trying to elect just the right person to fix it all hasn’t worked before, so why will it work now?
I mean–that’s the working definition of insanity.
I am an American–that screwball bunch of “elected” whores in DC are a whole other matter. Trying to defend the system that sent them there . . . geezopete! Franklin knew we probably couldn’t keep the “Republic”–and sure as shyte, we proved him right.
So now what? Elect another batch of self-serving idiots? Just asking, and all . . .
(WordPress’s spellcheck refuses to accept “marxist” as a word. LOL
Just Sayin\\\' commented:
“We’re still in the first quarter, folks. Halftime isn’t until the end of the 2010 elections.”
Matt Helm, why do use football analogies like a guy but use a girl for an avatar?
Whoops, sorry! I shouldn’t ask and you shouldn’t tell.
david commented:
we have to defeat all the dem. even the ones that voted against the bill so we get rid of this pelosi . everyone here should take an oath that they will work with all there heart and soul to campaign and work to help us vote out these democrats. lets get to work.
Pamam commented:
I truly believe Nancy Pelosi has sold her soul to the devil for power and for money. As much as I detest her, I shudder to think of the literal hell that awaits her when she meets her Maker. Not to mention Reid, Rangel, Dodd, etc.
Mike commented:
I will be hopefully taking the next pre-trained entrance exam in Houston, thanks for the pointers
manateespirit commented:
Hypogean
November 7th, 2009 | 11:26 pm | #116
Thank you for the link. I will be ready to go again on the offensive tomorrow.
WeWillRepeal commented:
It CAN, and WILL be REPEALED if it is signed by Obama. It will not take affect until 2013, so repealing it as simple as having the votes. It may take the House being flipped with a comfortable majority in 2010, along with a Republican President in 2012 to rule out a veto. I have already seen Reagan administration officials on Fox News gaming out the “repeal” process over the last few weeks. It will basically be a group of bills and admendments packaged in a “New Contract With America”.
Atlanta Media Guy commented:
Hypogean,
I was being a bit sarcastic. Plus, I am 3 margaritas into, what was a fun Saturday evening. I know what I typed earlier is a bit… well blubbering. But after watching that smarmy woman Pelosi Presser gloating about “free” health care I have had enough.
The 2010 elections will be interesting. But if Obama can get elected with kids and minorities I fear the Dems will use the line.. If you elect a Republican or a conservative, they will take everything we gave you away.
One thing that could help us, but hurt America, is Moody’s taking our Triple A rating away. Hell, China is not going to buy much more debt. I fear for my kids and their kids as we move forward.
Let’s hope American’s wake-up before it’s too late. Hypo, you’re right, this bill is destructive and incompetent,, a lot like the Democrats that we gave the majority to back in 2006. Elections have consequences.
William commented:
I think I know where all the porkulus money went to. It’s being held back to buy off votes of the fence sitting Dems in the Senate. The Dems that are up for re-election in the Senate will get fired, but they’ll have a big fat happy offshore bank account to live off of.
Am I wrong?
manateespirit commented:
jb
November 7th, 2009 | 11:33 pm | #122
You raise some interesting observations. What do you suggest? I’m open for all sorts of ideas. Do you have any thoughts on exactly where we are heading…how to derail it?
wanumba commented:
Hypogean
November 7th, 2009 | 11:17 pm | #105
Who’s lamer, the conservatives blubbering about how this is the end of everything, or the liberals sticking out their tongues like children?
Me, I just want people to be sober. Is that too much to ask?
………………………..
Well, at least the conservatives have a better understanding of the consequences of this thing, unlike the Dems who are … sticking their tongues out in a unique display of bipartisanship, healing and conflict resolution, endearing themselves to the unhappy electorate.
But, perhaps it’s like the Civil War, which if had been won too soon and too easily would have emboldened the South to try again not long after – a drib-drab running drain – perhaps this will create a huge upheaval that will deposit the Left and the Democrats on the ash-heap of history.
After it’s law of the land, THEN people will find out about their new obligations, the ones the media omitted from reporting. The media will also be held accountable for lying and hiding.
Funny how a capitialistic system doesn’t have all these fines and penalities built into it. You don’t like your health care, you switch doctors, insurance, hospitals. No one cares. With Pelosi and Obama, those carefree days are over. Punishment and denial of service will be the defining features of health care. The US standard of living will drop.
bg commented:
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Atlanta Media Guy @ 11:22 pm #112
no we won’t, it will take them a bit longer than that, but they have resolve.. something we lost when the last American President left the White House..
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Just Sayin' commented:
Fox News has got a lot of you guys convinced that this is the end of the world. My guess is that a lot of you will be paying a lot less for a lot more comprehensive health care in a couple of years. For which you can thank your loyal opposition.
You’re welcome.
willfully ignorant commented:
This is great news for John McCain!
Now let’s all go back into our Fox News holes and pretend like we are the only real Americans!
William commented:
Hey Just Sayin’
There is no free sandwich. If there was, Obama would tax us on that too.
You can thank the loyal Sal Alinsky party for that.
IOpian commented:
The question that needs to be asked in 2010 is ‘are you better off today than you were a year ago?’
Ariel commented:
Sen. Tom Coburn, M.D., (R-OK) is committed to stopping this centralized health control.
He will be the one to watch in the senate.
Heaven only knows how this will play out, but we don’t need any sob sisters.
If this vote is all it takes to bring us down, we’ve really turned into pansies.
But we’re not — we’re Americans, with a lot of history to live up to.
Stephen commented:
The mere fact that you are forced to buy insurance is all the proof that is needed that this is not about helping people but all about control. Being 24 years old, it’s tragic to see so many people my age illusioned with idealism, the same idealism of Chamberlain’s era and FDR’s appeasement of Stalin. Then again in every power grab, people play the youth card–counting on ignorance and idealism combined with the ‘invincible’ feeling that they’ll never get old to let the lies seep in.
jb commented:
Personal Advice here . . .
If “Just Sayin” offers to manage your financial future, politely decline.
bg commented:
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Incremental Socialism
a prescient Glenn Beck
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without ever knowing how it happened.”
– Norman Thomas, leading American socialist
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IOpian commented:
Just sayin, guess I am not aware of your logic. Could you name one government program that reduced costs and came in on the budget originally advertised? Just curious. I can’t think of one.
Star commented:
To “Just Sayin”:
The House will be flipped in 2010…and you know it.
Obama will be a one-term President…and you know this too.
Union voters will defect to Republicans in both elections…and you dread this.
Fox News’s ratings will continue to rise into next year….and you hate this.
just sayin
Pam commented:
Just Sayin’,
You obviously have not read the bill, or do not understand it, in order for you to believe what you do about it. We do not need Fox News, or anyone else to help us form our opinions…us protestors are informed and are reading the bill!!!As much as anyone can read a 2000 page monstrosity in a matter of days, that is! You can say till your blue in the face that this bill will benefit us, but unfortunately for you, we are reading it for ourselves.
manateespirit commented:
Just Sayin’
November 7th, 2009 | 11:45 pm | #134
You are wrong. We will not be paying less for comprehensive health care based on the “experiments” several states have already tried…read the following, provided by hypogean in a previous post.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjJmZGU1NmUzMmE0OWQ1NDk2YjUzOWE1ZjhjYjhjMWM=
I believe this article is based on FACTS, not supposition. It is clear the states can’t make this government style insurance viable, and if the state can’t do it on a smaller scale, how can we even begin to think the feds can do it on a larger playing field? We also can’t possibly pay less because we will have to pay for the enormous federal infrastructure necessary for this wonderful gift.
Can you provide factual information to bolster your supposition? Isn’t what you said along the same argument given when Medicare was voted in? Wasn’t it supposed to be deficit neutral? Didn’t it more than double its projected price tag within a few years of being instituted?
I’m confused by looking at the facts and what you are saying. They don’t seem to fit. Show me what you are saying is true, and I will drink the koolaid as well. It must taste awfully good.
Jim commented:
Hang on a minute on Joe Cao. I was watching CSPAN and he didn’t vote yes until they already had 218 votes. The bill had already passed. There was nothing he could do to stop it, but what he could do was vote yes so his opponent in next year’s election couldn’t use it against him in a liberal area.
That’s not to say Cao isn’t a RINO and doesn’t have to go, I don’t know enough about him to make a decision right now. If he is a RINO boot him out, just make sure you do your homework first. He may have just been trying to make the best of a horrible situation.
Why should he vote no, when the bill has already passed and give his opponent ammo against him in a election. I’m willing to bet he would have voted no if he was the deciding vote.
Just Sayin\' commented:
“You can thank the loyal Sal Alinsky party for that.”
Well, that would be SAUL Alinsky, actually. He was of Polish/Jewish extraction rather than Italian, LOL.
And why are you so obsessed with this guy? He’s been dead since 1972, when our President was 11 years old. Hell, *I* never heard of the guy until this year, and I was leading anti-war demonstrations well before his death. This guy’s name just never came up. Mostly Gandhi’s did, actually…and Dr. King’s. (Yeah, I know, they were “commies” too, LOL!)
willfully ignorant commented:
of course the House will flip, of course Obama will be a one-termer, because now that the Dems have enacted the plan the were voted into office in order to enact, an now with popular support for health care reform, President McCain is sure to prevail!
bg commented:
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Just Sayin’No @ 11:45 pm #134
don’t watch cable news, Fox or otherwise..
made sure of that when O’Reilly agreed with “the
war is lost” Reid via canceling all but basic cable..
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Opus #6 commented:
Jim, Cao did not make the best of the situation. He sold out his party and constituents. The Dems can use him for cover. And since the Dems are shredding the Constitution, Cao is giving them aid and comfort. Not OK.
The Elector of Saxony commented:
“My guess is that a lot of you will be paying a lot less for a lot more comprehensive health care in a couple of years.”
So, this bill creates trillions of dollars of new wealth out of thin air? Wow, that’s really something
Imagine there are just 1000 eggs in the world, and that egg production can only grow at 10% per year. If I pass a bill that everyone can have eggs for free, will there be more eggs, less eggs, or will magic eggs fall from the sky? Please tell me which one will happen as pertains to health care. Do you, like Pelosi and Obama believe in the “medicine fairy”?
Go down to the post office and meet the people who will be running your new health care system. Ask them to do long division. Ask them if they can be fired for losing mail, checks, or other important documents. (Hint: no government worker can be fired for any reason.) Now, do you trust them to administer your daughters chemotherapy? If you do, you’re pretty dumb. If you trust Obama to run your health care, you are dumb enough to trust a government employee to get your health care right. I have a doctor and an RN in my family, so I’ll get my meds, my referrals. whatever I need. YOU may find yourself lost in the fog of government effort, which is usually much less than adequate. That’s why the Dept of Public Safety needs 100 employees to do the job that 10 private sector workers could do. Get ready to stand in line, take a number, and when lunchtime comes, sit there and bleed quietly in the corner until they get back from the union mandated 90 minute food and rest period.
Matt Helm commented:
Matt Helm, why do use football analogies like a guy but use a girl for an avatar?
Whoops, sorry! I shouldn’t ask and you shouldn’t tell. Just Sayin\\\’
November 7th, 2009 | 11:34 pm | #123
Poor little libbie boy…and I do mean boy. Like all libbies, you’ve got no conception of beauty and beautiful women–unlike us conservatives who do appreciate lovely ladies–by the way, since you’re obviously ignorant as regards beautiful women, that gorgeous woman is Sendahl Bergman.
You must really be scared knowing what’s going to happen to your house of cards in 2010.
Ariel commented:
JB: Ha Ha, good one.
So glad this site is “still open” and appreciate all of Jim Holt’s service to the cause.
Things are so astounding.
On one hand, the oddity that this B.O. guy is actually president!
(Is this a dream?)
But then, he has “sinking ship” written all over him, and a consensus is forming about his general hollowness.
Yet the mad Dims of Congress literally don’t seem to notice.
William commented:
Just Sayin’
You’re correct, Saul Alinksy. You’re correct he’s been dead a long time. But you’re missing a key point. His approach to socialism continues and it’s being practiced by many in the Democrat party, including Obama and many of his Czars.
Simple learning moment,
Capitalism is the heartbeat of freedom.
Socialism is the heart disease of freedom.
Communism is the heart attack of freedom.
Class dismissed.
Just Sayin\\\' commented:
“The House will be flipped in 2010…and you know it. Obama will be a one-term President…and you know this too. Union voters will defect to Republicans in both elections…and you dread this. Fox News’s ratings will continue to rise into next year….and you hate this.”
You’re right. I concede. And Sarah Palin’s new book will go down as one of the great intellectual treatises of our time, too. And Obama will be exposed as actually having been born on Neptune. Conclusive proof will be discovered showing that Bill Clinton’s penis caused 9/11. George W. Bush’s face will be added to Mt. Rushmore. And the cow will jump over the moon.
jb commented:
The Civil War is a very interesting example . . .
While the civil rights gang make it all out to be about racism and slavery, serious historians know it was about states’ rights and the 10th Amendment.
Lincoln intended to get a fully centralized gummint–and he, in the end (has) succeeded.
ManateeSpirit . . . I last voted in 1984–it was the last time I could do so without gagging and barfing at the polls. And Reagan was at best, halfway conservative. He believed, as does most of the GOP today, that the GOP is a slower creep to marxism than the Democratic Party.
That will incite all sorts of objections, but the budget figures, the increase in taxes and benefits, the multiplication of “wars” and the incredible increase of gummint spending, says just the opposite.
I’m old–I was active when Hubert Humphrey, who would probably be a libertarian today, was running for POTUS. Instead we got Nixon, who screwed the pooch on the gold standard, and was such an egotist that we had to suffer through Jimmah Cahtah before we got some breathing room with Reagan. But since then, two Bush’s, a Clinton, and the Bammster.
Gee–voting works, doesn’t it?
I honestly don’t know the solution. I am absolutely certain that voting for other egocentirc individuals who love to tell us what to do and how to live does not work.
Other than beer and gas and cigarette taxes, I have had no contact with gummint for years.
What if they held an election, and no voters showed up? Now that would scare the living shyte out of every politician.
Matt Helm commented:
The Elector of Saxony
November 8th, 2009 | 12:08 am | #150
You’re forgetting…libbies like Just Sayin’ think money grows on trees and Obama’s going to wave his magic wand and treats and money will fly out of Pelosi’s butt. Why work? Just Sayin’ would say working is for the “little people”.
Of course, Just Sayin’ has probably never put in an honest day’s work in his life…
bg commented:
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a public option will put private insurance industry out of business
watch & listen before it goes “poof”..
not that Obamoaists give a crap anymore..
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Matt Helm commented:
Yet the mad Dims of Congress literally don’t seem to notice. Ariel
November 8th, 2009 | 12:09 am | #152
Mad is the operative word here, Ariel. And not mad in the sense of Savage’s “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, but mad as in non compos mentos–not mentally competent. I honestly believe that Pelosi at least, and possibly a few others, are genuinely insane. But, we’ll get rid of enough of them in 2010 should this get through the Senate. We’ve got a long way to go yet.
manateespirit commented:
Just Sayin’
November 7th, 2009 | 11:45 pm | #134
My guess is that a lot of you will be paying a lot less for a lot more comprehensive health care in a couple of years. For which you can thank your loyal opposition.
You’re welcome.
I meant to add to my previous post…I won’t thank you, “the loyal opposition”, for alleged lower costs in a couple of years, because even if it did happen, it won’t take effect until 2013. The increased taxes from 2010 until 2013 are designed to fund this program on the front end…that is, until the interest rates go up and China calls in our debt, and then there won’t be any money to fund it anyway.
Hey! I just figured out that we will never get nationalized health care because there won’t be any money! And the Dems can’t blame it on Republicans, because it will be India and China calling in the loans that will bankrupt the country! And it wouldn’t be very global friendly to cast dispersions on the countries who hold us financial hostages, now would it? I mean, aren’t we one global community and we hold hands and play nice?
But I regress. I DO want to thank the opposition for providing a huge momentum toward conservative groups. I love the independents abandoning Obama and his policies. So, thank you for that gift.
Betsy Ross commented:
Watched the vote tally on Fox and have to say it was bad enough to see this bill pass but to watch geraldo’s reaction to the vote was an incredible insult to injury. He may as well got out the champagne right there on tv. Please, Fox, please get rid of geraldo. I’m tired……
jb commented:
Stupefying.
There is no other word to express the idea that electing yet another politician at $174,000 plus benefits and retirement income for life, will change a single thing.
Fact is–it never has. And Newt in ’94 so screwed up things that Clinton won again in ’96, and the GOP majority spent 12 years teaching the Dems a few things about how to waste taxpayer money.
As FDR understood, and accomplished, we will probably need another World War to put this pup to bed.
Study history, people. Or be doomed to repeat it.
willfully ignorant commented:
Thank God future-President Palin has made health care one of most her highest priorities. She must have a plan to help those tens of millions of Americans who are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy and a lifetime of debt. Right?
She’s got a plan, right?
jb commented:
Willfully Ignorant . . .
Al I can say is that you have aptly named yourself.
Jim commented:
Willfully Ignorant.
Palin doesn’t have a plan for you. Darwin does though!
Pam commented:
willfully ignorant,
Is that all you got to throw at us? More Palin jokes? Way to be substantive! You truly live up to your name.
Hypogean commented:
Here’s what I’d like someone to explain to me:
The public opposed the government takeover of health care by a significant margin. If you add up those who wanted Congress to change this bill, scrap it, or start over, it came to nearly 75 percent.
Yet for some reason lots of conservatives are saying that these same people will suddenly support this bill after it becomes law. After they have their choices taken away, after they’re forced to buy insurance or pay a fine or go to jail, and after they’re subjected to rationing, long waits, and long lines, they’ll fight like hell to keep the Democrats in power.
These gloomy conservatives are also predicting that Obama and the Democrats will use the unions to get out the vote. Well, Obama and the unions pulled out all the stops in New Jersey. A higher percentage of New Jersey’s blacks voted in 2009 than voted in 2008.
And what was the outcome of that election?
Lets stop the panicking. If we just think clearly, we’ll see that the Dems have signed their political death warrants with this bill. The electorate clearly saw this bill for what it was, even before it was passed. Do you really believe that after it becomes law these same people will stupidly embrace all the restrictions and higher taxes that come with it? These same people will gladly accept crappier health care, rationing, and long waiting periods?
If they opposed these things before, why would they accept them later?
Hypogean commented:
And what in the world does Sarah Palin have to do with anything? She and McCain aren’t in the White House. Obama is, and he owns this debacle. He gets to have the whole stinking thing draped around his neck. He and the Democrats will be held responsible for going against the will of the electorate.
Pointing at Sarah Palin isn’t going to save Obama. Sorry.
bg commented:
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Just Sayin\ @ 12:05 am #146
just a sample:
ObamAlinsky
Obama Teaching Alinsky’s Power Analysis
[In Rules for Radicals, he argued that the most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired ends, and that an intermediate end for radicals should be democracy because of its relative ease to work within to achieve other ends of social justice.]
”I am certain nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after the mirage of social justice.”
“I have come to feel strongly that the greatest service I can still render to my fellow men would be that I could make the speakers and writers among them thoroughly ashamed ever again to employ the term ’social justice’.”
~Friedrich A. von Hayek
Now Public
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willfully ignorant commented:
True Americans never doubt in the magical invisible healing hands of the insurance companies. How could the majority of Americans possibly be such pinko-commie-fascist-kenyan-defeatocrats?
Save us, Fox News!
Ariel commented:
Hypogean – #167
Keep going – good sense – good name.
jb commented:
While some support Palin, and I suppose she is a bit of a remedy to the present quandary, understand, please–she is a statist like virtually every other politician. She is a diversion, not a solution.
We’ve lost the republic Ben Franklin reported we had gained. Now we are mired in the Greek nightmare called “Democracy.”
Lick your finger, stick it in the wind, and run for office. And if you have no spit, vote for the one who does have some spit left.
Fods–you are absolutely right! The experiment was destined to go awry.
jb commented:
Patrick . . . Billy . . .
The indoctrination so complete.
They don’t even get it when it slaps them up side o’ the head.
‘S ok. There is another agenda. It will prevail.
bg commented:
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to paraphrase an old cliche’s that comes to mind..
nothing like closing the barn door after the horse got out..
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Ed commented:
OK, the Democrats have really stepped on the hornet’s nest now.
A citizen uprising, such as we have never seen in our lives, is starting to rumble.
A revolt is coming.
I have never been so angry at Congress in my life, as I am this hour.
Hypogean commented:
Are people really worried that the likes of Just Sayin’ and Willfully Ignorant are going to keep the Democrats in power and force us to suffer under socialized medicine forever? Seriously?
As I said before, 75 percent of those polled opposed this bill before it passed. Those people understood the problems that will be caused by government health care. That means that almost 75 percent of the country are not degraded, childish bizarroids like Just Sayin’ and Willfully Ignorant.
When we’re experiencing rationed care, crappier service, long waiting periods, and much higher taxes, will that 75 percent of the country vote to keep the new health care or vote to repeal it?
Hypogean commented:
The majority of the country is on your side, Ed.
The Elector of Saxony commented:
“libbies like Just Sayin’ think money grows on trees and Obama’s going to wave his magic wand and treats and money will fly out of Pelosi’s butt.”
You are quite right. Because Leftists don’t really get the “reality” thing, they believe that pharmaceutical companies have an endless supply of life-saving drugs, and they change money because they are mean spirited, just like physicians who refuse to work for free because they are greedy. Now that we have Pelosi-Obama care, those greedy drug stores are going to have to give away the unlimited supplies of life-saving drugs that they have been hoarding, pharm companies are going to develop new cancer treatments, and spend money on research and development for no profit, and doctors will work around the clock for the same salary as a biology teacher. Plus, there will be an absolute surplus of medical supplies, equipment, and professionals to care for people with no pay!
Half the country pays zero taxes. Not one dime. Let’s put an end to the insurance industry, and throw what? 500,000 people out of work. Then let’s raise taxes on small businesses, so they will have to lay off people, or simply close their doors. Now, we are at 25% unemployment? Who’s going to pay this 3 trillion in new taxes? The businesses who are now out of business? The 25% who are unemployed? The 50 % who don’t pay a dollar in income taxes right now? Is President Present going to make them pay their fair share now? They could sieze the wealth of the entire middle and upper classes and it wouldn’t be enough to fund Pelosi care. Is American Mugabe going to print million dollar bills like Monopoly money? Is he going to borrow it from China at interest so that our grandchildren owe the Chinese a trillion dollars a minute? Obama has finally convinced enough lazy, stupid people that there is a free lunch. Even the first Affirmative Action President must be smart enough to know that a free lunch is usually bread and water, and free lunch forever, means everyone goes hungry. Then again, he did fight pretty hard to keep his transcripts secret, unlike every other person who ran for President in American history. I wonder if it could be because he got straight F- minuses?
Stu Stallsmith commented:
Hello!!
I have never been able to post to any site…don’t have MS Outlook, blah, blah.
But to give you a heads-up; some of this “Health Care Bill” has already been passed through the “Stimulus/Recovery Act(up)”. They already have a 25 or so member group set up to do the med. records and start the rationing according to their “findings/reports”. Medicare is gonna’ take a big hit! I will post the link shortly…
Like I said previously, I have never posted B-4; But I have been following all “info” since Obummer was elected. Stu
jb commented:
Hupogeios . . .
Yeah, I know a tad of Greek, too.
Let me ask you straight up–Do you, in all honesty, think electing someone else–”the right person or persons”–will solve this idiotic mess?
Hypogean commented:
“Let me ask you straight up–Do you, in all honesty, think electing someone else–’the right person or persons’–will solve this idiotic mess?”
What other choice is there?
Mike W commented:
Willfully Just Sayin Ignorant talking points. Your Strength is in Your Ignorance. Continue playing the fools and tools you are you make your masters laugh at you all the louder.
jb commented:
Well–
That is the $64,000 question no one seems willing to answer–beyond non-sentient pious platitudes.
And if electing another self-serving idiot(s) does not work (which it won’t)–what then?
bg commented:
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the majority of the country didn’t want PUBLIC OPTION..
we got it..
the majority of the country doesn’t want CAP & TRADE..
we’ll get it..
the majority of the country wants JOBS..
they’re going faster than Obama can talk..
same goes for everything else we haven’t realized being
taken away from US since ObaMao was placed in position to “transition” America into the New World Order..
“You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!” ~ B Hussein O
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Mike W commented:
jb A constitutional convention to clean the constitution of all the garbage would be a starting point.From there a rapid repeal of all the unconstitutional laws passed since FDR.
Ariel commented:
JB, I think you not only know a tad of Greek but also smoke a pipe and shower your friends with arcane references and cryptic gloom.
jb commented:
Ariel–
I send my condolences on your event lobotomy.
jb commented:
Ariel–
I take that back–
Reading the comments here . . .
We have achieved “Endarkenment.”
Let he who has ears . . .
Ariel commented:
Oh, that was a lobotomy?
I told them just take the tonsils.
Okay, so now I will probably end up in congress.
Pam commented:
willingly ignorant,
Every time you open your mouth, you demonstrate your name. Again, you have nothing substantive to offer and you are not helping your cause. Nobody here is claiming to believe in the “invisible healing hands of the insurance companies”. However, I am at a loss to understand how you can trust the government to meet your needs any better.
Pam commented:
Excuse me, I meant “willfully ignorant”.
dt commented:
To all please forgive me for the long post. I have never posted before just been a lone warrior on this battlefield since 9-11 emailing, calling, protesting and supporting financially other freedom loving organizations.
To all my fellow American Patriots who love this nation and our Freedom, Ginger #102 is absolutely correct!
“ Hey I have an idea. Let’s go to the White House and pull out all our signs that says the same thing……. Barry/Obama show us your REAL birth certificate. “
This is the only issue that will stop the radical madness including the Islamization of America; Fort Hood, Fort Dix, Arkansas recruiting office etc.
We need to have another DC March with more than 2 million Americans showing our signs demanding “Mr. Obama Show Us the Real Birth Certificate!”
All of our favorite talk hosts and FOX have not only been wrong on the Birth Certificate issue, they have also lied to us saying they have investigated the issue and found it “Bogus.” Where is the evidence of the investigation and why does Obama pay near $1.5 million to keep his records sealed?
Obama’s first act as President EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 banning release of any of his records
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2304500/posts
PDF Version download:
http://fas.org/sgp/obama/eo-13489.pdf
The DCBC March call should spread like wild fire starting tonight!
We will be on our own! No talk host will give this any coverage!
By this “up yours” to the American citizen by Congress, despite all our efforts with emails, calls, and protests it is now time for us to listen to Pastor James David Manning from Harlem, NY who attended the 912DC march, invited to speak but canceled before the event because they said he was too fiery! He truly lives out daily “speak the truth without fear.”
His web site: http://www.atlah.org/ and listen to “The Manning Report.” Three hours daily Mon. – Fri. Listen to the most recent broadcasts Nov. 2nd – Nov. 6th.
http://www.atlah.org/streaming/manningreportondemand.html
The 2010 and 2012 elections cannot be depended on and it is too far off! Remember the bulk of the $Billions in Stimulus money will be released in 2010. The question we must ask ourselves is the election process a realistic solution? It is time for some radical action on our part, the passive approach just does not work with the radical Leftists and Islamists!
Have any of you been paying attention to the massive protests in Iran despite the real threat of death? If it had not been for the silence of Obama and the rest of the Socialists of the EU these people would have reversed the fraudulent election by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!
Here are some web sites to get a very clear picture where we are:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/
Hypogean commented:
“And if electing another self-serving idiot(s) does not work (which it won’t)–what then?”
No idea. In a representative democratic republic we get the government we deserve. Either the electorate will do the right thing or it won’t. I’m convinced that we will do the right thing and elect people who will effect real change. You don’t share my optimism, but so what?
jb commented:
Since it is apparent most folks in America will fight marxism with marxism light, there really isn’t much point in further argumentation. Those on the right are convinced, those on the left are convicted. This is not a matter of a middle ground, or “how can we proceed.”
Tonight, full-blown marxism was approved by the United States House of Representatives.
And if you don’t get it, or failed 9th grade Civics Class and think electing another millionaire lawyer to office is the solution . . .
There is nothing left to be said.
(And WordPress still refuse to accept “marxism” as a word)> Kinda like the modern day GOP.
Steve commented:
After seeing Geraldo gloat about the health care passage (His ugly smile couldn’t get any bigger), the time has come for another revolt for Fox to get rid of him. Watching him you’d have thought that he personally had won the ultimate lottery. He is one pathetic person.
jb commented:
Steve–
I share your desire that Geraldo be gone on one hand, but on the other . . .
Let him remain, and remind everyone of what latent marxism is all about.
Fair and balanced . . .
jb commented:
Most folks are Tories . . .
Such was the case in the 1st Revolution (stick with the status quo) . . .
Such is the case in the 2nd . . .
Alana commented:
Come on, Hypojean (and I know that you are actually one of my favorite posters), give em a break.
Tonight was hard to stomach. People have to get this out of their systems and over with before they can move on to fight anew.
Bert commented:
A revolution is coming, I can feel it and I can smell it. I am afraid there will be blood shed if this crap continues. I have never heard people so angry as they are today. The end may be nearer than we think.
Left Coast Conservative commented:
Sad day for America. We’ve really got our work cut out for us. And, all of this really takes away from raising our families, work, volunteer activities, etc. We shouldn’t have to waste our time with this type of thing.
And – “just sayin” – your mental skills are woefully inadequate. Go troll someplace else.
jb commented:
Fight anew?
OMG.
Dear God–do we need Lenin or Mao to come back from the dead to assume control before we realize where we are?
The next battle will not be “political.”
Hypogean commented:
“Since it is apparent most folks in America will fight marxism with marxism light, there really isn’t much point in further argumentation.”
A deeply silly comment. The pushback is just beginning, and you’re already declaring it failed. Even a casual glance at our history shows that what we always do is skate up to the precipice, peek over it, and then retreat furiously in the other direction.
The country will fight the new socialism until it’s dead. It may take a long time, or it may happen fairly quickly. But it’ll happen. For some reason you’re talking as though the elections of November 3rd never happened. You’ve given up when the reality is that the pendulum is just beginning to swing back in the right direction.
Whatever. Some people are only happy when they’re miserable. They style themselves “Eeyore pundits” or some such clever malarky. My own philosophy is that as long we’re above ground and breathing, we have the opportunity to make things better. I expect the electorate to do exactly what I hope. Things were often worse in the past, and they were cleaned up. As bad as the political corruption is now, it can’t hold a candle to the mid-19th century.
We can improve, and I think we will.
jb commented:
Sports Fans–
I am going to bed. I purposely followed this thread for several hours to see if there was any credible opposition to the marxist takeover of MY country.
Sad to say, there is not.
Vote. Be sure to vote. Make sure to vote. By God, you better vote. Ahhh . . . (Robert Gibbs)
Duh!
Hypogean commented:
Jb, nobody cares what you think of us. Really.
Ariel commented:
Not only have the Dims fed us their crap sandwich tonight, but JB is disappointed with us to boot.
He’s going off now, leaving a great professorial void where once was pipe smoking and funny lingo that was always way over our heads.
We’re just low brows anyway.
Hey, that’s kinda like how elites think of us.
Hm…
jb commented:
As do few care what you think.
You are what is wrong with this country, and to that end, you are clueless.
jb commented:
Why is the GOP absolutely clueless?
Read all of the above.
Perhaps that will explain why a Pelosi and a Reid and the Bammster have steam-rolled America.
Drones.
Alana commented:
jb, you are nuts to make fun of what I said. As if you, and only you, are against this Marxist/whateverist takeover. You’re not.
Apparently, from what you say, you think people should be fomenting the revolution now.
It’s not time.
Ariel commented:
JB: It’s your bedtime!
I know one little boy who’s gonna get paddled if he doesn’t scoot!
jb commented:
Alana–
You have my sympathy.
Ariel–you are an ad hominem wizard.
I trotted you all down this lane to see if you were really interested in being Constitutional Americans.
The answer is crystal clear. Y’all congratulate one another, okay? LMAO
Ed commented:
Where is all of the best medical research innovation taking place? The United States.
Where are new medications produced that advance the health, well-being, and lifespan of people worldwide? The United States.
Where do the world’s best doctors emigrate to, in order to be properly compensated for their world-class skill? The United States.
Where do doctors have the freedom to practice according to the cutting edge of what they have learned, rather than according to what some bureaucratic board tells them is proper? The United States.
Where do doctors have the freedom to create for themselves specialties and practices that are innovative, relatively informal, effective, and unseen anywhere else on earth, and where do those doctors have the freedom to set their own prices and be paid directly by happily willing patients? The United States.
This abominable bill absolutely will destroy all of the above great and unique things about American medicine. I am sick at heart at what is happening in this beautiful country and at the lack of creativity, insight, and plain common sense demonstrated by the damn Democrats on this dark day.
Hypogean commented:
“You are what is wrong with this country, and to that end, you are clueless.”
Yes, if only I could be as clued in and brilliant as you. Oh, well…
Hypogean commented:
Alana, click jb’s name and take a look at his blog. He fancies himself a hugely deep thinker and two-fisted, rough-’n-tough iconoclast.
He’s got an active fantasy life.
jb commented:
Hypo–
While I have said repeatedly I do not know what the solution is, you have advocated more of the same over and over–the classic definition of insanity.
If your own opinion, under scrutiny, offends you, perhaps you should re-examine your opinion.
Blaming me for your insecurities won’t help much.
bg commented:
++
jb @ 28 am #213
ignore them, they’re just the regular Alinkyite lights, only the
names have changed.. can’t attack the issue, attack the issuee..
yawn..
==
Ann commented:
I was just on yahoo buzz’ seems like 99% of the posters there are against the healthcare. Of course some of the same old NPD alinskyites obots on steroids.
Bert
November 8th, 2009 | 1:40 am | #198
I agree, people are just mad, they are outraged.
So am I, sad and disappointed. But we do have a lot of good Reps there, I almost afraid to wait for the Senate vote.
Wondered why the rush to almost never heard of Congressional vote on Saturday, polosi was afraid the Reps were listen to their Continuents over the weekend and change their minds.
Hypogean commented:
“ignore them, they’re just the regular Alinkyite lights, only the names have changed.. can’t attack the issue, attack the issuee..”
Yes, because responding to jb’s unwarranted insults is attacking him. Of course. That makes sense. To make you happy, we need to let people dump all over us. That’ll prove how civilized we are. You, on the other hand, give yourself permission to say whatever nasty crap you want. Why? Because you’re special! Like Obama, the rules you impose on others don’t apply to you.
Hypogean commented:
“While I have said repeatedly I do not know what the solution is, you have advocated more of the same over and over–the classic definition of insanity.”
No, I’m advocating electing people who will make actual change. I’m advocating taking the time and responsibility to elect those who will do what we the electorate wants them to do.
You, on the other hand, are talking a lot even though you admit you have no answers. You talk and talk and talk on your blog, and you talk and talk and talk here, but you say you have no solutions.
We’re in a new era now. The Congress had never made such a power grab before. I predict the electorate will finally take full responsibility for reigning in the beast. I don’t blame the politicians as much as I blame the electorate. It’s up to us to de-elect pigs like Murtha and nightmare incompetents like Pelosi.
In the past we just sort of muddled along, trusting that things would work themselves out. We’re in a brand-new situation now, and we can no longer assume that the political class–despite its ideological differences and shortcomings–has the best interests of the nation at heart.
I think most Americans realize that or soon will, and it will result in real and massive change.
You’re living in the past. You don’t recognize the massive change that was wrought tonight. I’m living in the present, however, and looking to the future. That’s why we see things differently.
bg commented:
++
OT..
via TRBO
Glenn Beck Show November 6, 2009
[clip #1: Meet your Health Choices Commissioner (on paper — for now): Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., top Republican on the U.S. House Education and Labor Committee, “highlights the massive power handed over to a new super-bureaucrat — the Health Choices Commissioner.”]
(hosted by Judge Andrew Napolitano.
Beck is still recuperating from surgery)
clip #2: In Essence, America Now Has One Party Government
clip #3: Guest John Stossel. Actual Unemployment is 17.5%
clip #4: Rep: Admits Many Things Congress Does NOT Constitutional
clip #5: Guests are Representative Ron Paul and Rand Paul
clip #6: Unions Spent About $400 Million in 2008 Democratic Election
clip #7: Washington Culture Says Government Can Right Any Wrong
==
anonymous commented:
We need to vote these Democratic Congress out next 2010 and 2012 elections. They don’t listen to us. They don’t deserved to seek another election and it is time for them to sent back home. Ms. Pelosi won’t be the Speaker of the House in 2011. The problem is the government are spending so much money. It is need to stop. We need to bring the Republican control both US House and US Senate. The Democratic Party stole the 2008 election and the Republican Party lost. Obama will be one term President.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
I’m gonna be the devil’s advocate here and speak up for Joseph Cao. I totally, vehemently disagree with his vote–BUT I do not think it was only, or primarily, for reasons of “politics” (i.e., sucking up to Louisiana Democrats). I seem to remember reading, back when he first got elected, that he’s a very devout Catholic. The Catholic bishops, who are woefully naive politically–and, in many cases, inexcusably manipulated by the liberal bureaucrats in the USCCB–have pretty much supported DemocratCare provided that it excludes funding/coverage of abortion. Once the pro-life Stupak Amendment was passed tonight, I think Cao was trying to do what he believes was the faithful Catholic thing to do.
I’m Catholic, too, but I don’t agree at all with the Bishops Conference on this issue. Jesus commissioned them to be “shepherds of men.” He did NOT appoint them to be economic or policy analysts–and when they attempt that, they’re lousy at it, if you ask me.
The USCCB is always worked up about “social justice”–but their left-leaning and economically ignorant staffers are completely clueless about the massive injustices that will result from this fascist legislation. They are clueless about the great masses of breadwinners who will be put out of work by the avalanche of small-business failures that will inevitably result from the crushing new regulatory and financial burdens this bill would impose.
This is one more example (along with CCHD and ACORN, etc.), of why I think bishops need to worry more about teaching doctrine and tending the spiritual health of their flocks, and less about the game of politics. And it probably wouldn’t hurt if they fired half their staff.
Back to Joseph Cao. He is misguided–but please don’t impugn his character.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Re: the post above: I didn’t mean to imply that small-business failures and the consequent job losses are the only injustice this legislation would cause. Far from it! That is only one example of many, many injustices that will be visited upon us.
Another one that the bishops should take a special interest in is this: CONSCIENCE PROTECTION for medical personnel. Was this addressed in the Stupak amendment? If not, then we’re screwed. The bill as written, if I understand correctly, does NOT offer any explicit protection for freedom of conscience. This would mean the exodus of countless Catholic and pro-life doctors and nurses from the profession, and the closure of every Catholic hospital in America—thus further aggravating the shortage of nurses and primary-care physicians—which will make healthcare even MORE inaccessible.
This, from the “caring” and “compassionate” Democrats who supposedly are so concerned about access!
Nahanni commented:
The federal government in the guise of the Corruptocrat totalitarian regime has abrogated the Constitution. The United States no longer exists, it hasn’t since January. Seeing as the federal government has broken to bond of the Constitution the individual states are no longer bound by it, either.
The best course of action is for the individual states to go their own way. If some states wish to reform into a new country based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights they should start taking steps in that direction. If some wish to remain under the control of the Corruptocrat totalitarians that is their choice, too.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Mike
November 7th, 2009 | 10:27 pm | #38
“The last gumment program that was repealed was………..”
That’s precisely the Democrats’ calculation. They know that a population that sucks from the government teat can never be weaned.
The reason is our children. The fascists know that a parent will get in line and stay in line and do whatever they’re told, whatever it takes, if their child’s life or health are in danger. What mom or dad is going to sacrifice their child for the sake of sticking their finger in the government’s eye? No way, no how. No matter how principled we may be, no matter how much we hate our fascist, death-panel, wicked government, we will be good little slaves for them, good little Germans, when our children are at stake.
That is the way God made us. He designed us to put our precious children above all else. Satan–and his minions in this world–KNOW THIS, and take special delight in using God’s own design to defeat us.
The only comfort is Christ crucified, which was the opposite case. Satan’s design was to destroy the God-man—but it was precisely that crucifixion that God used TO DEFEAT SATAN!
i.m.madashel commented:
The bastards. Watch for unemployment to skyrocket now so the Senate can give healthcare to all of the millions who have lost their jobs and are uninsured. This was Obama’s plan from the get-go. He is determined to destroy this country. I pray that there are enough sensible Americans in one year to vote out most of these traitors. God bless us. The time for choosing is near.
non_dhimmie commented:
LOL…all the brats that heart the won are now little slaves…they think hollywood and millinaires that wanted this debacle will have the same health care they do…They have never read a British newspaper..aids patients can kiss it goodbye.
Healthcare is now pay for play.
The rich will have their health care and the rest of us will have our ques.
squeaky commented:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/baby%20birds/ralphiesfriends/baby-birds-picture.jpg?o=18
TaSS commented:
Of course the rich will not have the same health care. Even congress did not want that health care as they overwhelmingly defeated a bill which would have binded them to the same health care plan they are trying to foist on the American people.
Unfortunately the democratic answer to all problems facing the American people has been to spend more…more of our money. This does not solve medicare. This does not solve social security. This does not address the problems behind the soaring costs of medical insurance. It just shifts the costs to the taxpayers and we can watch unemployment reach new record highs as they continue to rob money from the American people in order to grow government.
Time to clean House…and the Senate too.
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Chris Vehr commented:
This makes me SICK. The dems don’t care what the people want. They only want to push their agenda. They think they know what is best for us.
Obama works out a deal with Bill Owens! This reeks of textbook Chicago politics 101. Not a big surprise.
There is plenty of blame to pass around for this mess and it all falls on the shoulders of the FOOLS who voted for Obama. Anyone should have been able to read through his nice guy, centrist facade to see that he’s a liar who does not have our country’s best interest at heart. everything our veterans have fought for is swirling down the drain. Liberty, our freedoms…dissolving before our eyes.
To those who voted against Obama, thank you. You have turned out to be true patriots.
To those who voted for him, you are stupid, dreamy idiots!
a soon-to-be-former-democrat commented:
Well, I am a democrat, ya know a democrat, not a fking marxist/communist.
I own a small business, this piece of $hit legislation is going severely hurt my business. Forget hiring new people, I may have to lay off a person or 2.
I am embarassed as to what this disgusting party that I used to be a proud member of has become.
You conservatives… NOT necessarily repubs, have Americans like me who will join you in the fight. I am an American FIRST!
Leave the social issues alone, there bigger things, like socialism, that we need to join together and fight against!
As Bush would say (and I cannot believe I am now admitting I would rather have Bush/Cheney back), BRING IT ON!
2010: BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!
I am a democrat, I am leaving my party, becoming an independent and will join with any freedom-loving, consititution-loving Americans to fight against this illegal Piece of $hit!!!!!!!!!
God Bless this beautiful country, and damn the fkers who are destroying it piece by piece!
SO, Stop feeling sorry for yourselves, you have Americans like me who disagree with you on social issues but agree with you on the preservation of freedom and individual rights who want to join you! So get ready to fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dacoelec commented:
Just Sayin….
How do you type, with your head shoved up your ass?
Just Askin….
Anonymous commented:
Pelosi’s Saturday Night Massacre.
daveinboca commented:
Cao should go back to Ho Chi Minh City where he would feel right at home with his fellow commie enemies of mankind.
daveinboca commented:
I agree that P.O.S. Rivera [formerly Jerry Rivers, a Jewish slimeball from Columbia U where the Dear Leader’s senior thesis was “lost,” should be flushed down the porcelain-lined exit where such specimens usually end up.
What is wrong with Ailes? And why does he hire Bush-basher Wanda Sykes, a lesbo-bitch ditz with a Whoopi-type empty head?
Does Fox actually think anything they do will stop the Dems’ Marxist DNC cadres from taking them off the air?
syn commented:
“My guess is that a lot of you will be paying a lot less for a lot more comprehensive health care in a couple of years.”
Sure; having third party government bureaucrats paying themselves first before doctors receive a penny means we’ll be paying a lot less for a lot more comprehensive health care in a few years.
Maybe this works in Oba Mao’s 57th State educated by braindead Harvard however in the United States of America this will only lead to oppressive DEATH PANEL misery.
Checkers commented:
If you own stock in any insurance company, say Aetna. Sell it immediately. You will lose your shirt if you don’t. If it bankrupts them, so what. Send a signal, they are going out of business anyhow.
Rich Casebolt commented:
This outcome is the ultimate expression of the deference given to seniority and majority-party membership in the Congress.
I don’t think this bill would have passed, were it not for the ability of a relative few who are “more equal than others” — the Speaker, House leadership, and committee chairmen — to apply both carrot and stick to bring the rest of those 220 Congresscritters into line.
We now have a Congress where the whims of Ms. Pelosi’s district carry more weight than everyone else … and her constituents have no incentive to change this situation, for to do so would place them at the tail of the Congressional pecking order, thanks to the deference to seniority.
People, it’s not enough to change the faces … we have to elect those who will change the way Congress operates.
We need EQUAL representation from all 435 Congresscritters … not just representation of the Speaker and his/her minions, whatever their party.
The power of being the Speaker … of being a committee chairman … of being a senior member … of being in the majority party … must be reduced from their present levels, to assure EQUAL representation.
TaSS commented:
My guess is many of us will be forced to give up our “cadillac policies,” as new taxes will push them out of reach and we will be forced into a substandard government health plan.
But that has always been the end result of the government plan. Forcing people to be more dependent on big government.
Also with the new taxes levied on businesses, we are going to watch unemployment rise to record levels.
Jobs?
The only sector that will grow under this plan will be government and you and I will pay for that.
Just Sayin' I'm Willfully Ignorant commented:
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The Elector of Saxony commented:
“If you own stock in any insurance company, say Aetna. Sell it immediately”
Same for pharmaceutical stocks, hospital corporations, the wealth created by the health care sector of the economy is about to be eradicated. Obama must have a reason to desire 25-30% unemployment. The cascade effects at that level are always catastrophic. Combined with cap and trade, this could be the moment the Obama changes America from a first-world nation to something much worse.
Those of you who have lived outside the Anglosphere know what life is like in places where Obamanomics is practiced. I wonder if the college hippies, aspiring MTV VJ’s, and rappers who voted this guy in will enjoy their new lifestyle?
JPL17 commented:
Hey — How many of you got bit by your Blue Dog last night? I know I did. And I’m not going to take it lying down.
What do we do with a dog that bites? We put it to sleep. So let’s start putting all the Blue Dogs to sleep, politically.
Organize. Write letters. Demonstrate. Start chain-calling. Start today, and don’t let up until your Blue Dog is out in the cold.
My personal campaign to purge PA-8 of its Marxist wolf in Blue Dog clothing began this morning, with the following letter to Rep. Patrick Murphy:
Dear Rep. Murphy:
You are a disgrace. You stabbed your entire constituency in the back last night with your vote for PelosiCare. My only consolation is that when you’re voted out of office next November (and you WILL be), not only will you be forced onto a “public option” with the rest of us non-members of Congress, but you’ll also be unemployed thanks to the 15% unemployment rate and tanking economy caused by your job-killing, deficit-spiralling legislation.
I absolutely assure you that I will work tirelessly and contribute generously to whomever opposes you in next year’s election.
Sincerely,
//////////
If you’re represented by one of these traitorous Blue Dogs, PLEASE start your campaign to oust him now.
JPL17 commented:
Hey Hypogean — You’re famous!
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit
http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2009/11/anger-is-energy.html
“Anger is an energy.”
Ann commented:
Any body interested:
http://shadowfaxreport.com/
Sign the petition to Impeach Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid. They have broken their oath of office to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States of America as required by Article 6 of the US Constitution.
Joanne commented:
The government will have access to all your personal information under Obamacare. If Americans are mad now, just wait until you are denied healthcare because you are not a Democrat. Obama seems to have gotten away with it in dealing with vehicle dealerships belonging to Republican supporters – bye, bye dealerships.
Pam commented:
JPL17,
I LOVE your letter!! Can I use it? It’s brilliant!!!
Joanne commented:
Hypeman states we should fight, so what exactly do you mean by this term ‘fight’, because if I had said that, you would have exclaimed that I was trying to push an agenda of violence in the United States. What do you exactly have in mind Hypeman?
Joanne commented:
dt – #195, excellent post.
YeahRight commented:
I wonder if there will be enough prison cells for the likes of me???
jb commented:
Hype–
Since your insight is so incisive, perhaps you should go back to my site and read everything.
You, like me, have no solution to what has just occurred. Health care reform is just another cog in the liberal machine. I fought it at the ballot box for years, to no avail. I gave that false avenue up years ago, because nothing has stopped the onslaught of government.
Congress has never made such a power grab as this? What with Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, welfare, food stamps, the bailouts from last year . . . everybody decries that the health care bill (which is by no means assured–the Senate has its work to do), will gobble up 15-17% of the economy. Dude–the gummint ALREADY taxes the economy on the whole at nearly 50%–and in 1913 they farmed out “money” to private banks, and then refuse to even permit “the peeps” to see what they are doing.
I said it last night and on my blog–this is systemic failure, not merely the matter of electing just the right people. The impetus for the founding of this nation was not in its leaders or who “we” elected . . .
It was FREEDOM. And that is what everyone was missing as I poked and probed last night.
Government, and “leaders” produce nothing. NOTHING! And once the “peeps” finally get that firmly stuck in their skulls, then the really critical questions will be asked, and perhaps, answered.
JPL17 commented:
Thanks Pam, I’m flattered, and yes, copyright is waived so please feel free to use the letter (though you’d probably better double-check my spelling first…). Even more important, please start working now to oust your Blue Dog in 2010.
Valentine commented:
Kathy from Kansas (#229):
No, Kathy, you have it exactly 100% wrong. “Their children” is the biggest reason people will fight. The kind of life we’re looking at under this bill and the ones to follow is not life as we know or want it. Remember those who took up the call, “Give me liberty or give me death”? It is what being an American is all about and the best legacy to leave our children. They WILL fight.
Anonymous commented:
A pox on those congresspersons.
Kathy from Kansas commented:
Valentine (#262),
Thanks for the hopeful message.
I think it’s one of those balancing acts that each individual, each family, has to figure out.
Years ago, I read a poem in a Mennonite magazine titled “Good Martyrs Don’t Make Good Mothers.” It’s haunted me ever since. The main thing, ultimately, that God’s going to hold me accountable for is how I raised my kids. Sometimes it’s really hard to discern what exactly is in their best interest. I just resent the hell out of these socialists for putting us in a position where we may have to make those hard choices.
Paula McGee commented:
Our only hope is defeating this in the Senate. And take down that Rep. Congressman from LA. I hope his people vote him out!
Paula McGee commented:
Our only hope is defeating this in the Senate. We can’t give up. Our kids will suffer for this one! And for that turncoat – in La. – get him out!!!
Brad commented:
President Obama has shown exactly what was expected- he is the most radical left wing nutjob to ever be elected. And of course Congress is simply doing what they want, as usual. What happened to “We, the people?”
Hopefully the Senate has more sense.