Breaking: MASSACRE AT FT. HOOD; 12 dead, 31 injured (Video) … Update: Shooter- Malik Nadal Hasan …Update: Previously at Walter Reed …Update: Shooter Wounded-Not Dead
Posted by John Schulenburg on Thursday, November 5, 2009, 3:05 PM
At least 7 dead so far and 20 injured at the largest military installation in the world. I will update this as more info comes available.
At least 7 are dead and 30 were injured after 3 gunmen opened fire on a crowd at Fort Hood in Texas.
Reuters reported:
At least seven people were killed and 12 wounded in a shooting at the Fort Hood, Texas, U.S. Army base Thursday, local media reported.
One gunman was in custody and another was on the loose at the military base, one of the largest military installations in the world, local media reported. There could be a third shooter involved, MSNBC reported.
Via FOX News– The FBI says terrorism was not involved. The shootings began about 1:30 p.m. Thursday at a personnel and medical processing center at Ft. Hood. 6 of the 7 victims were military.
The base is still on lockdown.
MSNBC is already speculating that it’s a mentally ill US Soldier but there’s no evidence of that at this point. Just the anti-military left’s early talking points
Kxxv - All available EMS units in and around Killeen are being dispatched to Fort Hood where a “mass casualty event” has taken place.
News Channel 25 has learned a shooting has left seven people dead and 12 injured.
The Nolanville Fire Department tells News Channel 25 that they’ve been asked to bring all available EMS and Rescue personnel.
*update* there are reports of 3 gunmen now. Still holed up at the base. Shootings still going on. 2 gunmen still on the loose.
*update* Here’s a video update from ABC News
*update* Tom Elia reporting that “shooting started at the House Theater and then moved to an athletic complex.”
*Update* CNN is now saying 12 dead
*Update* US Army Twitter account: @USArmy: Fort Hood officials confirm 12 dead, 31 wounded in Fort Hood shooting. Installation remains locked down.
*update* Breaking News on twitter confirms 2 suspects arrested 1 killed
*Update* CBS affiliate WGME is reporting that all 3 gunmen are US soldiers.
cross posted at InfidelsAreCool.com
Here’s the video from teh press conference:
UPDATE: US Army Major Malik Nadal Hasan Identified As Primary Shooter At Fort Hood.
ABC has more on Malik.
He is a convert to Islam.
FOX News: “This was a deliberate act of execution.”
Hasan was an MD psychiatrist.
UPDATE: Malik was previously stationed at Walter Reed.
The killer had completed a fellowship in disaster and preventative psychiatry. He received a poor performance evaluation at Walter Reed.
UPDATE: This was jihad.
UPDATE: George Stratton III was one of those shot at Fort Hood.
Rest in peace.
UPDATE: Malik’s cousin Nader Hasan said that Malik was upset because he was abused he recieved in the military.
UPDATE: Via FOX News and the latest military press conference- The shooter is wounded and not dead.
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Pinkie French commented:
Prayers for the victims and their families…
Pat Hickey commented:
God’s peace and kindness on the dead and more grace to their families.
madeleine7 commented:
My prayers go out to victims and families. What a terrible incident. This is no ” lone sodier gone mad” episode. Probably the shooters ( satan´s spawn) are muslims……
Moriah commented:
Are there any questions about who’s responsible?
Let’s see how long it takes for the names of the responsible to be released…
FORAC commented:
I’m hearing
(directly from the NMCC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Military_Command_Center)
this is NOT a domestic attack.
I will talk around the subject as I learn more.
NC Cop commented:
Absolutely tragic. My prayers go out to the victims and their families.
The fact that there are two gunmen signal a planned event, not a “loner” who has snapped.
Let’s wait and see to what we learn about the incident. Let’s not start pointing fingers just yet. We will know the truth soon enough.
Sasja commented:
God’s blessing and comfort to those murdered, injured, and to their families.
bg commented:
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GP.. think you need to try for that InfidelsAreCool.com link again..
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bg commented:
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FORAC @ 3:21 pm #6
think this is the link you were trying for..
if not, no biggie..
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Chisum commented:
12 dead and 31 wounded.
Three shooters. One dead.
Shooters are soldiers.
All info per Lt.Gen. Bob Cone press conference.
liberalsabide commented:
President Toonces had to give a shout out regarding healthcare prior to making a statement about Fort Hood. What a tool!
Rhoda R commented:
I hate our president.
Prayers to the wounded and the families of all the victums.
Rhoda R commented:
Add Shep Smith at Fox to the hate list. He’s talking about PTSD in this shooting. Not three soldiers, no way is this PTSD.
blr2449 commented:
My thoughts and prayers go out to those affected by this heinous situation.
REd commented:
So, 3 mentally ill soldiers? I doubt it. This is terrorism.
Sasja commented:
I never thought I could hate anyone. But if what I feel towards president twit is hate, then I guess I can. He is a disgrace to the office and an arrogant s.o.b. to boot (amongst other things I can’t mention here).
joe camel commented:
Shooter:Major Malik Nadal Hasan
Humm…
ROP my A@# commented:
Main shooter a convert to Islam Major Malik Adel Hasan:
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
Dan F commented:
AT least one is said to have been a recent convert to Islam.
non_dhimmie commented:
Major Hasan
Major Hasan
Major Hason
recent convert to ISLAM
Rivka commented:
Just heard on Fox that indeed the shooter was a convert to Islam..
Gini commented:
Heard that the dead man was from Virginia and a convert to islam.
Rivka commented:
It frustrates me to hear people on Fox giving their guesses that it was ‘stress related’ when they don’t know for sure. Also Shep said it isn’t for sure that the other 2 shooters were soldiers.
wanumba commented:
It’s pathetic that we lock down guns away from our soldiers so they are sitting ducks for attackers.
aprilnovember811 commented:
I said to my husband before they even mentioned his name, the shooters would be Muslim, I guessed right. They and our “President.” They better lable this what it is, and that is TERRORISM. They are in our military, and in our White House. Thank you again, to all of those who close their eyes to the usurper in the White House. Better to have dead military, than a certain segment of the population upset that he needs to be removed because he lied about who he is. Thank you Judge Clay Land, and Judge David O. Carter, honorable Marine!
aprilnovember811 commented:
Major Hasan
Major Hason
recent convert to ISLAM
and
President Hussein
President Hussein
President Hussein
The people in the media, kiss Obama’s butt, but are fine with dead soldiers.
reliapundit commented:
not P.T.S.D.
I.S.L.A.M.
reliapundit commented:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2009/11/12-people-dead-in-shooting-at-fort-hood.html
LisaGinNZ commented:
This sure sounds like a “terrorist attack” to me….?????
Lenore commented:
May those who have died rest in peace. My prayers are with the families and the wounded,
Lenore commented:
A reporter on foxnews said something strange anyone else catch it? He said we have a name of the shooter who was killed and his name may give you the reason for the shootings. But did not release the name. If they have the name why are they holding it back?
wanumba commented:
A reminder from over two decades of militray intelligence, mentioned by pur previous POTUS to anyone with ears which would hear:
“The War against Islamoterrorism is an ASSYMETRICAL war.” Front lines can be anywhere.
Ft. Hood today became one battlefield in an assymetrical war.
Let our soldiers carry sidearms. Many died and were wounded today because only the bad guys had guns.
Smarty commented:
Of course the MSM compares the shooting to the Virginia tech shooting, instead of comoparing it to other Muslim soldiers who killed their fellow troopers. We let muslims infiltrate our military, give them affirmative action promotions, and then pretend they are not muslim when they kill us.
Muslims are not Americans, they are Muslims. Their allegience is to the Ummah (world of Islam), not to infidel nations.
Andreas K. commented:
Islam is peace.
“The FBI says terrorism was not involved.”
Wrong FBI, terrorism was involved. The shooter was muslim. He followed the orders of the pedophile prophet: kill the infidels wherever you find them. Fight them. Murder them. They are, after all, comitting the worst possible crime: they are infidels.
Islam is terrorism. Always has been. Always will be.
aprilnovember811 commented:
“Of course the MSM compares the shooting to the Virginia tech shooting,”
Those treasones bastards!
squeaky commented:
and it was a convert to islam who rolled a grenade into fellow soldiers tent during the run
up to iraq – killing one. also puts new light on
the crew charged with planning to kill military personnel at fort dix – i believe that charge was poo-pooed as being unrealistic [participants not
in military]..
Lenore commented:
Were the shooters Muslims and why hasn’t the media said it. They only keep saying we know the name of the dead shooter. Am I watching the wrong channel?
Lenore commented:
Why are they keeping it a secret??????? Who ordered that?
Ladue Pundit commented:
Recall, anyone, when a Muslim soldier tossed a grenade into the tent of his sleeping brothers?
How about the goofy teenagers on spring break riding around with fireworks, uh, that were really explosives? They were on their way to Ft. Dix.
Or the 5 British soldiers killed days ago with their Muslim “trainee?” Inside job. A lot of checkpoint Charlie action courtesy of Muslims.
The DC sniper was just sentenced to death. Former marine.
Muslims, as Smarty points out, owe their allegiance to the Ummah. they should never be admitted to the military. The shooter was a MAJOR, a major mistake, that is.
Lenore commented:
Does Obama now control Foxnews as well????
Lenore commented:
Where are you getting the info that the shooter was a Muslim, got a link?
Lenore commented:
Never mind http://www.blackfive.net/main/
Joanne commented:
My heart goes out to those poor soldiers and their loved ones.
Let’s face it – soldiers do not kill each other, unless they belong to Islam……then Muslims will kill any and all non-Muslims. People need to wake up to the fact that Muslims believe everyone must submit to Allah or they should be killed.
nobama commented:
the minute i heard about this I knew it was a muslim. Muslims have allegiance to their allah not to usa. No muslim should be allowed in our military. Lets see how Obama spins this. Will he remind us that muslims are peaceful? Sick!
TiminPhx commented:
Just correcting someone’s post on the DC sniper.
He was NOT a former Marine. He was a former soldier.
Lookhere commented:
Looks like he’s on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Malik-Hassan-Malik/1008970609
Ginger commented:
Yes, Barry is now controlling Fox the traidor! They spent no time to day along with their other moron msm’s covering the rally on health care. They kept calling it the republican rally! Believe me I sent e-mail’s of discust to Fox! There were americans there that are democrats and lndependants.
God Bless the special people whom we lost by evil.
Ann commented:
My first thought too was Muslim:
A law enforcement official identified the shooting suspect as Army Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan. The official said Hasan, believed to be in his late 30s, was killed after opening fire at the base. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
The official says investigators are trying to determine if Hasan was his birth name, or if he changed his name and converted to Islam at some point in his life.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
The soldier killed at the recruiting office in Arkansas was a mulim convert.
So now obama has brought the war on terror to the homefront.
fallingfast commented:
The media will not pick this up, they are too busy with Missus O being a star in a reality show.
Oh, and I knew that Fox news was going to go down the tubes when I heard they met with the Whitehouse……traitors!!!
Ginger commented:
Sasja…………
Every time that fraud comes on tv I throw my shoe at him and call him names. At the same time i’m hitting the mute button. haha By the way my shoes are house shoes! I wouldn’t let that fraud cause me to damage my tv over him. haha
Ann commented:
Ann
November 5th, 2009 | 5:40 pm | #53
Sorry
Correction; the shooter was a muslim.
TheScribbler commented:
My best friend’s son is at Fort Hood. He gets out in December. Thank goodness he’s safe.
My deepest condolences to those who lost loved ones.
greenfairie commented:
Sounds like another freelance jihad operation that will ultimately be ignored or minimized by the MSM.
Mad Lady - L pinski commented:
Shame on the President, The House of Representative and the Senate to continue to debate at this time on unimportant issues when their Constituents are dealing with a tradgey.
They should not be on CSPAN they should be ministering to those who are our most precious recsource our Soldiers and their families.
I think they should shut down the Senate and House and at least act like they care!
Ginger commented:
Wonder if he has visited the White House? He’s from Washington.
Seriously? commented:
“Muslims are not Americans, they are Muslims. Their allegience is to the Ummah (world of Islam), not to infidel nations.”
Most any estimate puts at the very least least 1 million Muslims in the US. They are Americans, they aren’t all out trying to destroy the US, and if you forgot we have religious freedom in this country. I for one like our freedoms. When you spout bigotry like that you are no better than the Islamic extremists you espouse hatred for.
Anyway, tragic loss of life :/ My condolences to their families.
Also is it true they weren’t allowed to be armed there? Seems kind of silly. They should probably change that rule if true. I mean we let cops carry guns but not our soldiers??
penny commented:
Gov.Rick Perry said there were at least three gunmen with shootings in separate locations. No mention of this on FOX.
Have they gone CNN on us?? Good grief.
I don’t give a damn how hard they spin this wasn’t a terrorist action, of course, it was. Just like the “non-terrorist” Egyptian shooting up the El Al counter at LAX terrorists come in ones too.
PatriotUSA commented:
How much more evidence and carnage do we need to prove that we are at WAR with Islam.
How many more attacks will it take to convince
people that there can never be peace with Islam. READ THE KORAN! I dare Obamanation and the White House to call this what it truly
is: A TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL!
Hypogean commented:
Joanne
November 5th, 2009 | 5:25 pm | #47
Let’s face it – soldiers do not kill each other, unless they belong to Islam……
A stupidly transparent lie. There are thousands of patriotic American Muslims serving in the armed forces today. And there have been several cases of non-Muslim soldiers murdering other soldiers at Fort Hood:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572350,00.html
http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2004/07/26/News/HusbandWife.Soldiers.Killed.In.MurderSuicide-695779.shtml
Let’s face it, Joanne: We really don’t need Canadians coming here to try and make us hate our fellow citizens.
squeaky commented:
also, the army recruit who was killed this summer by a convert. there was mention made at that time about the doj cutting back on survelliance of the group although there was no follow up on the subject…….
Hypogean commented:
nobama
November 5th, 2009 | 5:29 pm | #48
No muslim should be allowed in our military.
A truly idiotic thing to say.
Hypogean commented:
PatriotUSA
November 5th, 2009 | 6:00 pm | #64
How much more evidence and carnage do we need to prove that we are at WAR with Islam.
We are at war with a branch of Islam, but not all of Islam. One reason that Muslim terrorists carry out attacks is to make you overreact and declare war on all of Islam. By pushing the west into enraged retaliation, they get more recruits and create a wider audience for their arguments.
Muslim terrorists want all Muslims to believe that the west is at war with Islam. Don’t help them with their plans by echoing their talking points.
We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with Muslim terrorists who want to impose their version of Islam on the world. We didn’t overreact after 9/11, so let’s not overreact now.
Joanne commented:
Wake up hypeman!
Isabel1130 commented:
When I was an Army officer back in the 80′s the army was not so paranoid. I was in Germany for three years and every time I was pay officer, I carried a loaded 1811 .45. The NCO/soldier who was with me carried a loaded M-16. There was always an armed guard at the local bank branch who sat in the corner with a loaded M-16. Our PC culture has made our government and leadership so afraid of guns that we delude ourselves about our safety on military bases. There is no way to keep unauthorized weapons off of these instalations. The controls and regulations only penalize the innocent and the law abiding.
Isabel1130 commented:
“should be 1911 .45″
Hypogean commented:
Joanne, I’m totally awake to your lies. You said only American Muslims murder their fellow soldiers. That’s a flat-out lie, as I showed with my links above.
I’m going to challenge your lies and bigotry every chance I get, Joanne. Get used to it.
penny commented:
Hypogean, the internet is essentially borderless. Americans and Canadians share a common border, language, values and culture including the English Common Law right of free speech.
Joanne is free without being denounced as an outsider to say what ever she likes.
Hypogean commented:
Sorry, Penny. I’m not going to let a Canadian come here and try to stir up hatred for my fellow citizens.
ZRegime commented:
To Seriously: The anger that we “bigots” have is not towards Muslims as a whole group, it’s that we hear so little condemnation from the Muslim/Islamist “leaders” when something like this happens. Instead of denouncing in the strongest terms, more often than not, what I hear is the old victimology song, which I hear strains of in your post. Here’s what we want: CLEAN UP YOUR ACT. Call murder murder. Call assassination just that. Don’t hide behind your race. You coward.
Smarty commented:
Our soldiers are being shot by muslims, fragged in both iraq wars by US ARMY muslims, and our Marines even had some parachutes tampered with by marine muslims.
The enemy within is more dangerous than the enemy without. Liberals are importing muslims as fast as they can.
nobama commented:
Just now some relative of the muslim killer say he was not a convert, he was always a muslim. Why oh why do we let muslims in our military.
squeaky commented:
fox reported that hasan received a poor
evaluation. “Two other soldiers initially detained as suspects have been released, but another person of interest is in custody..” from cnn. with workplace violence in this country at the level it is – ignited by firings, bad work evaluations, etc.
Ann commented:
March 24 2003
An American soldier is in custody after a grenade attack at a US military camp in Kuwait which killed one of his comrades and wounded 13 others.
He was found hiding in a bunker and arrested after the early morning attack at the heavily guarded camp of the 101st Airborne Division.
The attacker threw three grenades into three tents, including the command tent, at Camp Pennsylvania, one of the desert bases from where US forces have launched an invasion of Iraq, officials said. One soldier was killed, three were seriously injured and 10 other servicemen had superficial injuries, military officials said.
US broadcaster Fox News said the suspect was a Muslim American and that he had been described as “acting strange”.
(Sgt. Hassan Akbar …)
And now this: Shooting at military recruiting center; 1 dead, 1 wounded; suspect is anti-military Muslim convert
By Michelle Malkin • June 1, 2009 02:02 PM Scroll down for updates…meet the Muslim domestic terrorist suspect, Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad…Where is Obama’s denunciation of the attack?
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/01/and-now-this-shooting-at-military-recruiting-center-1-dead-1-wounded/
nobama commented:
Hypogene take your head out of your behind
dennymack commented:
I work with Muslims everyday, and the folks I know are hard working, community serving, patriotic Americans. This is the work of three guys. If all 1 million Muslims in the US were at war with us, we would know.
The big win for these shooters is if they can drive a wedge between majority America and the 1 million Muslims in the US. Our military needs Muslim soldiers, just like we needed Japanese Americans in WWII. (see 442nd Regimental Combat team, history of)
Let’s learn from our mistakes, it’s why we have such a great nation.
That said, perhaps it is time to trust our soldiers with sidearms on base.
Connor commented:
Sadly as the U.S. continues to support diversity for everyone including those groups which hate ALL Americans these Islamic converts will continue to infiltrate the military, police and politics.
To top it off legislation like VAWA and other hate crime type stuff alienates men especially white men and as they feel more and more disenfranchised converts will flock to Islam which as a belief supports men.
I am sure plenty will disregard my warnings as hate speech itself but that will not change the facts that men are feeling more and more left out in the cold and will seek warmth wherever it can be found.
Rhonda commented:
Over at hotair, they said young Stratton had been shot in the shoulder and was talking to his Dad. Maybe you double check your RIP.
Anton commented:
As Instapundit reminds us:
“How did he shoot so many people? Ironically, stateside military bases are virtual gun-free zones, where most guns are kept locked up and only a few are allowed to be armed.”
Mike W commented:
Islam is not a religion.It is an ideology.And given the choice of islam(slavery)or freedom(The US Constitution) a muslim must submit to islam(slavery) or forfeit their heads for apostasy. .
jonyjoe101 commented:
As they lower the standards to get in the military, probably more wackos will get in. The more foreign muslims allowed in the military the more mass shootings.
People don’t realize that all muslims have an agenda, they put there religion above there duty to their country. Trust them at your own risk.
I served in the military and have first hand experience of Muslims attempting to sabotage our warship during war time.
Political correctness can be dangerous for your health.
They need to promote the soldier that killed the shooter. I hope obama/holder won’t try to prosecute him for using excessive force.
Hypogean commented:
Smarty said:
“The enemy within is more dangerous than the enemy without.”
Really? We’ve lost about 5000 killed to the enemy without. How many American troops have turncoat Muslim Americans killed?
We’ve lost over 20 Abrams main battle tanks to the enemy without. How many Abrams have Muslim Americans destroyed?
How many Apache helicopters have Muslim Americans shot down? How many Strykers have they blown up? How many IEDS have they planted? How many EFPs have they used against how many Bradley fighting vehicles?
What’s the basis for your statement that Muslim Americans are more dangerous than the Muslims we’re fighting overseas?
Tammy commented:
This was Jihad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EA1v2r8sHc
markd77 commented:
we had a muslim LT in our unit in iraq during my first deployment, good guy, dont paint with such a broad brush. each Soldier or person judged on their merits as a person, not just on their religion
John commented:
My deepest sympathy to all who have lost loved ones. May the dead rest in peace. Lets pray to God for a speedy recovery for all the wounded.
Brooklyn commented:
This is such a tragedy.
A monster who killed some of the bravest, finest, Outstanding Americans.
RIP.
The irony that his expression mimics the Democratic Party Extreme, that the Liberating USA is the ‘aggressor’, is truly regretful.
This insane Muslim Radical Killer actually has expressed similar anti-USA sentiment, as the new President Obama.
It is a sincere nightmare.
Remember when the nutty Democratic Partisans held up signs, “bomb Texas, not Iraq”?
That is the ugly bitter reality.
The vapid Democratic Partisan conceptions that the USA is the bad guy, is insanity.
Just as misguided as the mindless killers who created 9-11, and this horrid day.
Ladue Pundit commented:
We didn’t overreact after 9/11, so let’s not overreact now.
Go back to sleep.
Richard Romano commented:
My heart is broken over this — my deepest condolences to the friends and families of our fallen soldiers.
I agree with Hypogean — there are many patriotic Muslims serving in our armed forces. I salute them and their families who bear a great burden.
We cannot broad brush the many by the murderous actions of a few.
Hypogean commented:
Ladue Pundit said:
“Go back to sleep.”
Another deeply cogent, valuable contribution to the discussion. Apparently you believe that we should make life-and-death decisions based on emotions instead of careful consideration.
I disagree, that’s all. I’m not going to let the terrorists push me into making mistakes. To you that means I’m asleep, I guess. Weird, but then again we’re in an era of proud irrationality, aren’t we?
Fiaero commented:
Soldiers dying in Fort Hood, and MaObama is busy pushing his BS health care, before addressing the situation.
Call this what it is, it is an attack, on our military, on American territory, by a Muslim, committing his own personal Jihad.
Meanwhile, this idiot scumbag, who some call our “President”, is too busy making time to tout his medical entrapment entitlement program, to give a s*** about our military men and women, who are currently falling victim to a TERRORIST attack!?
Does anyone honestly think this moron will make the right decision about our boys in Afghanistan?
He doesn’t even care about our boys here in the states.
Oh, and for all you trolls who want to yipe “Bush was reading to school kids when the 9-11 attacks were happening”, time to shut your f-n traps!
Buffalobob commented:
YEP IT’S A SHAME THAT 98% OF THEM GIVE THE REST A BAD NAME.
Ann commented:
Welcome to Israel!!
deet13 commented:
markd is on the money. Some people need to chill for a few.
There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. I worked with plenty of decent Muslims in Iraq.
Whether or not this was a flare up of spontaneous jihadi derangement, part of a coordinated terror attack, or just a garden variety psycho/traitor has yet to be determined.
Richard Romano commented:
YEP IT’S A SHAME THAT 98% OF THEM GIVE THE REST A BAD NAME.
There are are over a billion Muslims in the world — do you really believe 900 million plus of them are support terror?
Did you know that any time a plot on our soil is unraveled, it’s most often patriotic Muslims who blew the whistle?
Valerie commented:
Pre-traumatic stress syndrome, perhaps? Or just pure evil?
Steady, guys. There are creeps running around trying to impose an uncivilized travesty of Islam on Muslims as well as the rest of the world, and they have murdered and tortured far more Muslims than anything else. GWBush had it right: people trying to hijack one of the world’s great religions.
Blackwater commented:
He’s a left wing muslim? What a surprise. I wonder who he voted for in 2008… Gun free zones are a joke. Turning MILITARY bases into gun free zones is a terrorist attack waiting to happen. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with allowing law abiding citizens to carry guns on their person. Just look at Switzerland. Everyone there is required to own an assualt rifle which they keep in their residence. No shootings happen. Or the UK. Since all guns were banned in the UK gun crimes have doubled. Allowing more people to own guns and to carry them actually reduces shootings and crime. If more people on the Fort Hood base were armed nowhere near as many people would have been shot by this traitor. End gun free zones. And oh nice. The muslim Fort Hood shooter used to live in my area. A time bomb waiting to explode it seems. And of course if this left wing muslim islamoturd was a right winger the leftist media would be going nuts accusing Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Fox News and others of fostering this kind of extremism. So let’s blame Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Noam Chomsky, MSNBC and the left in general for calling our military actions war crimes and illegal and for generally demonizing our military.
ar05075 commented:
Richard Romano
November 5th, 2009 | 7:36 pm | #100
————————————————
Yes.
Really??
Ladue Pundit commented:
For all of you have yet to read the Qu’ran, I suggest you begin immediately.
There is nothing but bitter fruit to be produced by a cult whose founder, Mohammed, was a warlord, pedophile, mass murderer, and heretic.
What overreaction has occured since 9/11?
Muslims have been allowed to emigrate in droves.
Government funded Islamic schools have opened in virtually every corner of our nation, schools that teach Qu’ranic tenets such as “Jews are monkeys, Christians are pigs.”
Honor killings are on the rise and atlas shrugs is the only outlet keeping track.
The media refuses to report the Somali jihadists WHO LIVE IN MN. Keith Ellison wants to welcome them home.
To all of you who love Muslims, let me add that I love them more, enough to pray and sacrifice for these poor souls every single day.
But I hate Islam. It is a murderous clut that kills apostates. What other “religion” does that?
Muslims behave very differently when they are in the minority. They practice taqqiya, the sacred duty to lie to infidels.
There was an under-reaction after 9/11. That explains the shoot-out last week in a MI mosque. That explains the ever-expanding terror cells in our country, with the FBI informing the terrorists more than vice versa. Wake up. There are no throngs of Muslims in our streets turning over the terrorists in their mosques.
Buffalobob commented:
Double yes. Read their book. Until you convert you are the enemy.
ar05075 commented:
Valerie
November 5th, 2009 | 7:36 pm | #101
people trying to hijack one of the world’s great religions.
Tell me things great about it.
Awesome beheaders?
Awesome honor killers?
Awesome genocidal maniacs?
PLEASE.!! Tell me some great stuff, really.
bg commented:
++
flashback:
in the first first report (before anything was known)
they clearly stated there was no terrorism involved..
how could they possibly be so sure so soon?? was the most
obvious question that immediately ran through my mind..
flashforward:
aprilnovember811 @ 4:44 pm #28
re: [They better lable this what
it is, and that is TERRORISM.]
they won’t..
orders from our IslaMarxist CIC
“You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!” ~ B Hussein O
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Ann commented:
lost this post: Understand the so called moderate Muslim still read and believe the same Koran that the terrorists read.
Having been revealed later in Muhammad?s life than 50:45, 109, and 2:256, the Verse of the Sword abrogates their peaceful injunctions in accordance with 2:106. Sura 8, revealed shortly before Sura 9, reveals a similar theme:
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
The Quran’s commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet’s career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a “religion of peace.”
Buffalobob commented:
We just had a”father” run down and kill his daughter here in Phoenix AZ. Claimed she was too westernized. Honor killings, any excuse for a get into heaven free card. Peace loving my ass.
S. Wolf commented:
Valerie… Islam is not a religion, it’s a military conguest plan. Every Imam is a Prophet Mohammed who tells his followers in his mosque to go forth and kill infidels. No Muslim can be allowed in the US military.
Ann commented:
That post was from Jihad Watch, Islam 101.
We wouldn’t allow the Germans or Japanese in our military during WWII.
We are in a war on terror with 100% Muslims. We need to get them our of our military and fast.
One Muslim sailor was convicted for releasing
TS info about the ships location. How often can we trust these people to watch our soldiers backs in war, and our most safely guarded secrets
Mike W commented:
What will come out of this tragedy is the louder screaming for gun control by the left and harsher PC laws protecting muslims.
nobama commented:
amen to that smarty
muslims allegiance is to Islam not to the USA. Christian/Jewish God does not tell you to kill people innocent people to go to your bordello in the sky with 72 virgins. Islam does.
Ann commented:
Mike W
November 5th, 2009 | 8:08 pm | #112
With the Muslim-in-chief in the Whitehouse, that’s exactly what we can expect.
Quote from his own mouth when referring to the muslims after 9/11 “if the winds of war get ugly, I will go with them”
Hypogean commented:
Ladue Pundit said:
“There are no throngs of Muslims in our streets turning over the terrorists in their mosques.”
An absolute lie. Every major terrorist plot thwarted in the U.S. was exposed by Muslims. Here are some of them:
http://muslimsforasafeamerica.org/?p=71
Take a wild guess about the religion of undercover FBI agents who can pass as al Qaeda. Are they Quakers? Hindus? Amish?
Joanne commented:
The shooter is not dead!!!!! It is being reported right now on Fox News.
Ann commented:
We need to start a protest march all the way to the Pentagon. Our soldiers deserve better than this. After fighting the long war overseas, they have this to look forward to in their own country and neighborhood when they come home and want rest and peace.
Hypogean commented:
Ann said:
“We wouldn’t allow the Germans or Japanese in our military during WWII.”
Good God. The all-Japanese 442nd Regimental Combat Team was the most decorated, most wounded unit in American military history.
The Richie Boys were German-American immigrants trained by the U.S. Army as intelligence officers and trusted with some of the most classified information of the war.
bg commented:
++
Political Islam is the Enemy..
and the President has been busy laying the
groundwork for the judicial establishment
of Sharia law via his “Covenant for a New America” (aka: wedding
of church/mosque/state iow: government)..
just a sample:
Obama nominee supports Islamic Sharia law in U.S.
Harold Koh Confirmed
Barack Obama linked to Chicago sharia
finance fugitives wanted by FBI
crickets..
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Fiaero commented:
For those of you who may have forgot,
WE ARE AT WAR!!!
Not with a country,
but with a “WAY OF LIFE”.
And our enemies sole purpose is to eradicate us, and our way of life.
Old One commented:
Let us ask if there was ever an incidence of a Japanese -American serving in the military who shot 13 people at his base during WW II Hispanic
Americans killing fellow soldiers when the US Army was involved in the Spanish-American War
or chasing Pancho Villa, or of a African-American soldiers other than a muslim opening fire on fellow soldiers. Millions of Italian and German-Americans served in WW II and no one heard of such behavior in our armed forces. Every group mentioned have served bravely and valorously beyond the call of duty to prove that they were and are loyal Americans. I defy the trolls here to cite one incident where other than a psychologically deranged soldier acting alone has attacked his peers on a miltary base. Three (or more) attackers working together has got to be unprecedented among any ethnic or religious
group other than “peace-loving” muslims. The attack was obviously was organized and planned .
There is little doubt to anyone other than the clueless that the presence of those who adhere to the muslim ideology in our society is more than an unimportant security risk to the American public. Trolls and libs pull your head out of your rectum.
Many of us also recall the muslim loon who shot up a shopping center is Salt Lake City, a islamic nutbar who roared his SUV into a crowd of students in North Carolina, and the jihadist lunatic that killed a woman at a Jewish institution.
Anyone but agendist tool trolls, clueless liberal elites, and the crypto-muslim in the White House should now be able to clearly see the light of reality. Jihadi infiltrators and tools are well established in our own land and with Obozo bringing in 90,000 from killers from Gaza the
situation will worsen. An Egyptian Coptic colleague has for twenty-five years unequivocally stated that every mosque in the world is a terrorist base. As time passes the colleagues view is being proven correct.
Ladue Pundit commented:
Let me repeat myself:
“There are no throngs of Muslims in our streets turning over the terrorists in their mosques.”
If you believe, Hypo, that every person who speaks Arabic or Farsi is a Muslim, then I can understand how you believe the rest of the nonsense you posted here.
All Muslims are not terrorists, but they ARE under a continual fatwa to remain in the Ummah. Leave and die.
As for terrorists, they are overwhelmingly Muslim. History is not on your side, pal, and I am not prepared to endanger our military to promote your fantasies.
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Rhonda commented:
Why did they let us believe the shooter was dead?
Hypogean commented:
Ladue Pundit said:
“There are no throngs of Muslims in our streets turning over the terrorists in their mosques.”
Say it as many times as you want. You’re still wrong that Muslims aren’t turning terrorists over to the authorities. They are, and they’re serving honorably in the armed forces.
Ladue Pundit commented:
The shooter’s alive?!!
Shazam! Obama will have a beer with him. What? Alcohol is haram? OK, make that a root beer…
Sasja commented:
Any and every muslim who does not condemn the brutality and murder by their muslim brothers condone such actions by their very silence. They are not to be trusted and should not be allowed in our military. PC be damned. We are at war with Islam and people better wake up.
Fiaero commented:
Rhonda
November 5th, 2009 | 8:34 pm | #123
For the same reason that they said “it wasnt a terrorist attack” and “he converted to Islam” and “Obama addresses his concerns over the fallen soldiers”
Because they lie.
Hypogean commented:
Old One said:
“Let us ask if there was ever an incidence of a Japanese -American serving in the military who shot 13 people at his base during WW II.”
They were segregated from the rest of the army. They served only with fellow Japanese-Americans. It’s a silly, irrelevant comparison. As for Germans, there were many in World War One who carried out massive sabotage in the U.S., including germ warfare. Google the Black Tom incident, for example.
During World War II we took steps to prevent the sort of terrorism that Germans and German-Americans carried out here in World War One. We interned Japanese, Germans, and Italians before any major sabotage or terrorism could be carried out.
But some German-Americans were willing to go against their own country in both world wars. Disloyalty isn’t unique to Muslims. Heck, plenty of good American Christians have betrayed their country. Ever heard of Aldrich Ames or Robert Hanssen? They both did more damage to the U.S. than any Muslim American so far.
stacy commented:
I saw that Hasan had a Chicago connection.
I blame Obama and Congress for this tragedy, but mostly Obama. This is his fault for standing there with his thumbs up his rear in Afpak, Iran, Honduras….
I do believe I hate the man.
Expect more of the same and worse in the near future.
Englebert commented:
The apologies for Islam are truly disgusting and ignorant. The graveyards in the West are full of the graves of innocents killed in the name of Allah. Today even more graves will be filled with more innocents this time America’s best and bravest.
They dribble about “the millions of American Muslims” – the only reason they exist is because of Democratic ethnic engineering via that drunken, man-slaughtering idiot Kennedy’s Immigration Reform act of 1965. A deliberate policy of eschewing small-scale immigration mainly from America’s ancestral heartlands (Europe) for an uncontrolled flood of 3rd world immigrants intended to become willing followers of the Democratic party.
Islam is a system of religion AND a system of government. How many “American Muslims” would answer “America” when asked “To what is your first allegiance, Islam or America ( http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=931696981298d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD )?”
Another act of war by Islam on the West, more excuses, more lies. God help the families of the killed and wounded and God help us.
jenny commented:
More gun control? This should convince people we need less gun control. Gun free zones only create target practice opportunities for the nuts and criminals. If those soldiers were armed, more would have survived this tragedy and fewer would have been wounded.
Rhonda commented:
thanks, that’s what I thought! seems rather fishy?
livefreeordie commented:
Piss on PC its time to clean the slate !
Ann commented:
The Ritchie Boys were mostly Jewish refugees from Nazi training camps who knew their enemies so well they were training in intellegence and used to interrogate.
The Japanese soldiers were American Citizens not recruited from the terrorist country of Japan.
They didn’t carry around some manual in stealth jihad, set up terrorist training camps in our country and talk about eliminating the infidels.
ON Musims:
“No, not one, has assimilated. Not one has ever denounced Terrorism or shown the slightest compassion for it’s victims.”
*They never chat with their American neighbors. *They speak to non-Muslims at work – only when required.
Basically, Muslims do not acknowledge the existence of non-Muslims.
To them, we are invisible germs in need of a vaccine.”
Ladue Pundit commented:
Heck, plenty of good American Christians have betrayed their country.
Hypogean
November 5th, 2009 | 8:47 pm | #128
When a Christian lies and kills, he goes against his faith. When a Muslim lies and kills, he does it IN ACCORDANCE with his faith.
Kaffir and infidels are not considered innocent lives according to the Qu’ran. They’re (that would be us) fair game.
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Old One commented:
Hypo. The Japanese units fought alongside other groups. And please name me one German, Italian, or Hispanic us Military soldier who or an officer who turned his gun on thirteen fellow soldiers on a military base. Hypogean you are most certainly a tool or a fool. Certainly German intelligence had plants in the US but none who were sworn soldiers every engaged in such organized h treachery as muslims in this incident and the grenade in tents attack.
By the way there were millions (in fast 1/4 of the US population was of German extraction and 1/7 (35 and 15 million of German and Italian birth or ancestry at the time of WW II) and virtually all of the Germans and Italians interned were held unjustly thanks to the idiocy of federal government bureauweenies.
Like a true troll or liberal Hypo is mxing apples (soldiers in the US military) with a handful of spies. The internment of tensof thousands of German-Americans in WW I was a perfect example of the sinister behavior of a clueless arrogance of the arch-racist and eugenicist progressive dunderhead Woodrow Wilson and his “Deadfish” advisor Col. House.
Ann commented:
http://www.khilafahconference2009.com/
some terrorism experts say Hizb ut-Tahrir may be even more dangerous than many groups that are on the State Departrment’s terror list.
“Hizb ut-Tahrir is one of the oldest, largest indoctrinating organizations for the ideology known as jihadism,” Walid Phares, director of the Future of Terrorism Project at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Connor commented:
Japanese Americans were placed into camps yes as I believe some German and Italian Americans were as well if they had not been in the US long enough.
Japanese Americans however had barely tried to assimilate into US society by WWII. They had retained their native language, sent most of their children back to Japan for education and had a caste system dependant on when/if they had been born in Japan or the US or if the US what generation they were. They flat out refused to inter-marry or embrace American life.
There was also a Japanese American immigrant caught giving information to Japan from his office overlooking Pearl Harbor on ship movements early on along with the threat of West Coast invasion which is where most Japanese American’s lived.
No I don’t agree with mass racial camps, but a certain degree of “extra” security is only prudent especially in joining the military.
Also all these ethnic groups mentioned served in minority units. The current US policy of open and non-segregated anything means any Muslim serving in the Military serves with everyone else and has access to turn on them.
Had an Asian, Hispanic, German or whatever turned on their fellow soldiers before or during WWII it would have been an equal in all regards including race, national origin and mostly religion (although maybe not political orientation).
Not so anymore.
We may not discriminate by religion but the attackers certainly do no matter how many of them are peaceful.
Ann commented:
http://www.christianaction.org/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=13
“Scattered across the United States, unknown to all but a handful of citizens, are 35 Islamic terrorist training compounds known as “Muslims of America.” Under the leadership of a radical Pakistani cleric, Sheikh Mubarak Gilani, Muslims of America has thousands of devoted followers who are being groomed for HOMEGROWN JIHAD.”
Most of these camps are located next to nuke power plants and other vital locations.
Gilani was the cleric that Daniel Pearl was going to interview when he got kidnapped and beheaded.
Old One commented:
Hypo. The Japanese units fought alongside other groups. And please name me one German, Italian, or Hispanic US military soldier or an officer who turned his gun on thirteen fellow soldiers on a military base. Hypogean you are most certainly either a tool or a fool.
Certainly German intelligence had plants in the US but none who were sworn soldiers ever engaged in such organized h treachery as muslim(s) in this incident or the three grenades in tents attack.
By the way there were millions- 1/4 of the US population was of German extraction and 1/7 Italian-(35 and 15 million of German and Italian birth or ancestry respectively) at the time of WW II) without such incidents of treachery as we have seen carried out by peace loving and tolerant muslims sine 911. Virtually all of the Germans and Italians interned in WW II were held unjustly thanks to the idiocy of Roosevelt’s lefty federal government bureauweenies.
Like a true troll or liberal Hypo is mixing apples (soldiers in the US military) with a handful of spies many plants with with a few disloyal Germans living in the US.
The internment of tens of thousands of German-Americans in WW I was a perfect example of the sinister behavior of a clueless arrogance of the arch-racist and eugenicist progressive dunderhead Woodrow Wilson and his “Deadfish” style alter ego one worlder Col. House.
myna commented:
If the cousin said that Hasan is horrified using guns, then that means all his motivation was just pure hatred.
Old One commented:
Englebert
You nailed the entire issue of Islamic disloyalty and jihadism perfectly and correctly tied its existence to the perfidy of the limousine liberal democrap Kennedy aiming to preserve and perpetuate the power of his cabal of elitist by opening up the nation to immigration by groups of people whose culture and ideology are an assurance of our destruction.
Ask the residents of three small southern Minnesota towns, Waseca, Fairbault, and Owatonna about the wonders wrought on residents by a flood of so called Somali refugees deliberately settled there because those towns were believed in need of ethnic diversity by the social engineers of DC and some milticulti spewing liberal local clueless clergymen.
Hypogean commented:
Old One said:
“The Japanese units fought alongside other groups. And please name me one German, Italian, or Hispanic us Military soldier who or an officer who turned his gun on thirteen fellow soldiers on a military base.”
Again, we rounded up Japanese, Germans, and Italians at the beginning of World War II. We don’t know what sort of sabotage, terrorism, or murder some of them may have carried out if we hadn’t interned so many.
We aren’t interning Muslim Americans, so those who want to commit terrorist acts are more free to do so than in World War II. So far we haven’t had the sort of sabotage that we had here during World War One. If Muslim Americans are so bent on committing terrorism, how come there haven’t been the sorts of attacks that took place here in World War One? There were entire networks of German-Americans who helped German agents carry out massive attacks.
Why haven’t Muslim Americans helped al Qaeda carry out another 9/11?
mark mitchell commented:
From some of the comments I’ve read so far here, there’s STILL a dearth of good, old-fashioned common sense in too many Americans. OF COURSE this was a terrorist act @ Ft. Dix!! Anyone with a brain to reason with KNOWS it was, and DAMNED BRAZEN too. And MORE can be expected. What else with Hussein Obama in the White House? There’s VERY GOOD reason to suspect that this army major was what used to be called a “SLEEPER AGENT” of Islamo-fascism. And Obama was too quick to DISAVOW it was a terrorist attack; HE DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ALL THE FACTS, and he was trying to lull us into believing it wasn’t terrorist. WHAT A CROCK! CROCK FROM A CROOK! Down with the obamamoron, let’s IMPEACH HIS ASS FOR TREASON, he deserves it!– GOD BLESS ALL-MARKRITE
S. Wolf commented:
I had to google that.
MUSLIM OBAMA ‘WILL STAND WITH MUSLIMS SHOULD POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN UGLY DIRECTION’
Solaratov commented:
Well. Despite my general dislike of the religion of islam, I don’t believe that I’m going to hop on the bandwagon and condemn all muslims for the actions of a few.
I believe that most muslims just want to lead their lives in peace and are not screaming-mad jihadists just waiting to kill us all in our beds.
That said, I do wish that the federal government would shut down the jihadi training camps across America and get rid of the anti-American imams and jihad-screechers in the mosques.
But I refuse to engage in blanket condemnation of all muslims for the actions of a fanatical few. (And, yes, I’ve read the koran.) At least, not until I have evidence that there is, indeed, danger from all muslims in America.
If we’re to condemn all muslims for the actions of a few, then wouldn’t it follow that it would be just as good to condemn all black people because gangbangers kill innocent people? (They kill more innocents in America, in fact, than muslim jihadis do.) Or, we might as well hate all Mexicans because of the drug gangs on the borders (for that matter, all Latin Americans, given the breadth of the drug trade) who kill and torture people all the time. Not to mention the crimes committed by illegals. Are all of Mexico and the entire American population of legal immigrants responsible for those?
And all of that hating just wears you down. A good selective hate is good; but blanket hatred and blind condemnation puts you right into the same camp as the kkk and aryan nations, etc. There just aren’t enough enemies for them to hate, so they create more.
Soon, you’ll have to start hating the Brits because they boil their vegetables too long; and the French because….well, because they’re the French.
So, I’ll just be a bit more selective with my condemnation.
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As far as arming all soldiers on a military base goes, it’s not a good idea. There are good, valid, time-tested reasons why all soldiers don’t carry sidearms on post. I wouldn’t mind seeing officers and senior NCOs (E7 and above) being armed at all times with sidearms, though.
I believe that you’d find that there would be even more incidents like that of today if all soldiers were armed at all times.
Buffalobob commented:
Like rats in a sewer they breed among us. This rat was know to exist for more than 6 months and none put their boot on his neck.
Agarza commented:
when is all of america going to wake up and realize that we have a president who is MUSLIM and he is running our country….my heart goes out to the familes who lost loved ones in this tradegy…obama was the WORST mistake that SOME ppl. choose to make for our country!! Its only a matter of time before the USA becomes a communist country and is ran by a muslim!!! IS anyone aware of the cap and trade…and that if it is pasted the US constitution will be thrown out…What can we do to have him thrown outa office!!!
anon commented:
Just to clarify I don’t believe Stratton was killed: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html
Hopefully he wasn’t. RIP to all the victims.
Love how the MSM is now claiming this is because soldiers are depressed at having to go to war..Hmm perhaps because Barry refuses to make a decision on Afghanistan.
Lenore commented:
He killed his fellow soldiers because he didn’t want to go to Iraq or Afghanitan and kill Muslims. He killed because of Islam.
bg commented:
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Solaratov @ 10:53 pm #146
oh i agree..
however, when it comes to the Muslim population, “the few” are in the millions.. and our shores no longer a great divide..
not to mention it’s undeniable that our president is an IslaMarxist..
Percy Sutton (Malcom X’s Lawyer) Says Barack Obama Knows And Was Financed By The Racist Radical Muslim And Saudi Advisor Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour
Obama knew all about Farrakhan
Farrakhan calls Obama the “Messiah”
video has gone “poof”, guess it was those truth thugs, can’t
have truths if you’re a thug.. no no no G-D America!!
Libyan Leader Muammar al-Gaddafi [4/10/06]
Boiling The Infidel Frog
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bg commented:
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just several reminders..
The FBI thwarted a planned terrorist attack on New Jersey’s Fort Dix.
Major Islamist Attack Thwarted in Germany
Synergy thwarted July Quantico attack
Australia Foils Terrorist Plot to Attack Army Base
there’s more, but who’s counting??
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Lenore commented:
“Actual quote from “The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. “
bg commented:
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Lenore @ 3:12 am #153
for all intent & purpose, Obama is shifting the political winds in an ugly direction as fast as he possibly can..
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Hope commented:
George Stratton III is apparently not deceased.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572448,00.html
Only one involved in the shooting. When I first heard that this guy was a major, I looked at my husband and said, “He cannot be infantry, my guess is desk job, has not been deployed previously”.
This was an isolated incident by a determined perpetrator on a suicide mission. Thank goodness he is alive to face justice for those that he has murdered and maimed. Enjoy the rest of your life in Leavenworth “major”.
I know a few people who are Muslims. I would trust any one of them with my life. The true followers of Islam are peaceful people. The extremist views of some fanatics should be rightly considered a blasphemy against the one true God. I, as a Christian, worship the God of Abraham and his Son Jesus. Muslims and Jews also worship the same God of Abraham. Comparing an extremist’s views to the main stream (the vast majority of those who follow the faiths of the God of Abraham from which ever branch of the tree they are on) is the same as saying that as a Christian, I espouse the same beliefs as those nut bags from the westboro baptist church (intentionally not capitalized) in Kansas who protest and harass the grieving at military funerals. I consider their views and actions as an abomination to the tenents of my faith.
As far as this man’s views of faith and the military, we will know soon enough, because he was not killed. Speculation will occur, I prefer to wait and hear what the investigators find out.
Rob commented:
First off, Islam is not a religion. It is an entire socio-economic belief system. It has its own finance system. Fully proscribed by sharia or translated islamic law.
Does the Vatican enforce banking laws? Does the Anglican Church?
The so called “true followers” of islam are the people to be careful of. They may erupt into sudden jihad syndrome at any time.
The non practicing muslims are the peaceful muslims. But these poor souls would be put to death by the practicing muslims, for blasphemy.
The greater majority of muslims worldwide are illiterate. Even the muslims who are can understand what they read are not allowed to interpret the koran. Imams do that for them. The are not to question the validity of Mohammad. To question the teachings of the koran is blasphemy and punishable by death.
This is a belief system, that to this day stones (to death) women accused of adultery. The key word here is accused. Because a woman is less than a man, her word counts for less than a man. A mere accusation, by any man, usually her husband, is grounds for death by stoning for a woman.
Honor Killing.
Is this peaceful? Is this loving? But they are following the teachings of Mohammad. It is in the koran. So it must be ok, since it is in the koran. Right?
How many daughters of muslim men, just in the USA, have faced death by their fathers and brothers for becoming too westernized? Far too many already, and is increasing every day.
Ignorant people and the media provide cover for these atrocities, by describing them as isolated cases.
Connect the dots. It’s not so isolated.
Care to guess the worldwide Honor Killing total, from these “peace loving” koran reading animals, that some people seem to be so enamored of?
It is not an isolated event. There have been over 13,000 bombings worldwide, and a huge death count since 9/11, by “peace loving” koran reading muslims.
To provide cover for brutal ideology, is empowering the brutality to continue.
Stop taking the word of the media, and read for yourself, the Koran, and the Reliance of the Traveller.
Two books that form the basis of Islamic Jurisprudence.
The Major in this case planned to die a martyr, to die in combat with the infidels, guarantees a muslim entrance into paradise. And all that has been promised to them in the koran. Virgins, alcohol and everything else considered haram in this world.
Paradise is waiting for every muslim who kills an infidel.
There is active jihad in every corner of the globe. Africa, Russia, China, Europe, America, Thailand, the Philippines.
READ all about it.
Jim commented:
The military needs to get rid of these whacko Muslims in the military NOW!!! Muslim men are the most dangerous men on earth, a blanket carpet bomb on all of them needs to happen, and happen now. Muslims are FREAKS!!!
Redwine commented:
Hasan was NOT a convert. He was a US citizen with Palestinian parents: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/fort-hood-jihadi-a-devout-muslim-had-palestinian-parents-admired-homicide-bombers.html. Figures. That’s why Barry Hussein seems to be covering for him – aside from the damaging info that he was part of Dear Leader Hussein’s transition team: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379728/posts.
Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs has more:
Fort Hood Jihadi, a devout Muslim, had “Palestinian” Parents, Admired Homicide Bombers
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is a U.S. citizen whose parents are Palestinians from the West Bank.
He wrote Allah on his door, according to a neighbor, in Arabic. Allah on the door.
Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the time.
Federal law enforcement officials say the suspected Fort Hood, Texas, shooter had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats.
There’s more.