ABC News: Nidal Hasan & Followers of Islam Are the Real Victims (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 2:20 PM
Remember: Major Nidal Hasan was just a victim.
ABC’s ‘World News’ portrays Nidal Hasan and the followers of Islam as the real victims:
In the real world… Hate crimes against Muslims have steadily declined since 2001. Today there are more reported hate crimes against Christians in the United States than Muslims.
Related… Bob Schieffer at CBS: “Christianity has nuts too.”
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Andreas K. commented:
And let’s not forget that socialism in it’s many forms and colors has butchered more than 100 million people in the 20th century. Men, women and children. They simply perished. Starved to death, froze to death, shot to death, gassed to death with Cylon B, beaten to death, tortured to death, etc.
But the Christians are oh so evil. Yeah. Right. And I’m actually the Empress of China.
Galt commented:
No, Kimberly Munley was a victim. I don’t know her but I suspect she would bristle at being characterized as such. Despite being shot by a hate-filled jihadi she maintained her resolve and did her duty.
She ought to get up from her hospital bad and slap the “news” commentator who made these asinine remarks.
Joe College commented:
If they admit Islam has a special problem with violence then they would have to admit Bush may have had a real premise for Iraq and Afghanistan. The narrative of a brutal Israel and it’s Palestinian victims would crumble as well.
serpent commented:
And ABC continues to be treated like a news organization……why?
bizjetmech commented:
Um….no.
Bill Weir is an idiot.
There is one VERY LARGE difference between the Japanese Americans in WW2 and the Muslims today: Unlike Muslims today, the Japanese Americans in WW2 were chomping at the bit to get into the fight. They were loyal Americans and wanted to prove it. The 442nd, a Japanese American division, was the most decorated Army division in WW2. It was by demonstrating their loyalty that they gained the respect that they deserved. And gain it they did.
I see none of that from Muslim Americans today. Their silence is deafening.
squeaky commented:
OT from free republic – someone who has more
respect for the military than the current resident
and his minions……
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573885,00.html?test=latestnews
Ginger commented:
If Kimberly Munly our HERO does any interview she must only stay with FOX. But…. not with Shepard Smith or Heroldo the racist! Please stay away from the liberal media. They will only twist what she says.
The evil media has not felt the wrath of God. The Bible clearly says….. Love thy neighbor as thy self. I wonder if they have any idea how hot Hell will be for them. Sheiffer is one of them in line!
Joe College commented:
Actually, Islam may not be especially violent considering so many of it’s practitioners are the products of inbred marriages:
http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence
Richard Romano commented:
Bob Schieffer at CBS: “Christianity has nuts too.”
Truly an unbelievable and remarkably ignorant statement. Islamic fanatics daily murder innocence; when was the last time you heard a devout Christian bombing a building with innocent people inside, or going on a shooting rampage?
Devout Christians die for their faith; radicalized Muslims kill for theirs.
Aitch748 commented:
Sure, because the REAL threat in this country is THE REST OF US. (*rolling my eyes*)
You can almost judge the character of a person based on how the media treats him. If they treat him well or make excuses for him, he’s probably someone you DON’T want in your life.
Chris Vehr commented:
Anybody ever see Daniel Pearl have his head sawed off in front of thousands of “praying” Muslims. Find it on the Internet, watch it, and then try your hardest to defend those people.
jonyjoe101 commented:
muslims shouldn’t join the military if they are cowards and have mental issues with killing the enemy.
During world war 2 japanese and german americans joined and had no problems knowing when to pull the trigger. Either your an American or your not.
People need to stop making excuses for all the terrorists acts that are committed.
The US military personnel need to be paranoid when they have a muslim squadmate with a loaded weapon next to them, less they end neutralize by a “friendly fire” incident. Paranoia is good when dealing with loaded weapons.
Even animals in the wild will ostracize the ones that can’t be trusted.
mary commented:
makes you wonder if an islamic “victim” shot up a news room instead of army base, if the media would get their heads out of their a$$e$ and report the terrorist act that it is, or if they would still feel sorry for the poor “victims” and the backlash that might come out of it…
Otter commented:
Christianity does have it’s nuts.
But islamic ‘nuts’ outnumber them by tens of thousands to one.
drjohn commented:
Exactly how many Muslims have been killed in the US in retaliation since 9-11??????
And THEY’RE still the victims???
There are 23 Americans dead at the hands of Muslim mass murderers since 9-11.
Give me a damn break.
drjohn commented:
Just a damned minute.
Anyone beside me remember Serbia????
The Serbs are Christians. And we bombed them!
Who was worrying about US Christian soldiers bombing Christian Serbs back then???
WTF????
Mike W commented:
The only thing to remember here is that those who promote this line of BS are true salad tossers for obamao.
The Elector of Saxony commented:
“The Serbs are Christians. And we bombed them”
Yep. And the guy who took the MUSLIM side in that conflict, Bill Clinton (D) was ordering the FBI and CIA not to share data on Muslim terror groups operating in the USA. Now Obama ends the “War on Terror”, and ramps up operation “Be Kind to Suicide Jihadi’s”, and we get another large-scale terror attack right here at home. Get the feeling that these guys would be on the side of Islamic terror no matter what happens. If Hamas managed to get a nuke into Manhattan, I think Obama would make a statement blaming “poverty, Zionism, and George Bush” for a million Americans deaths.
wow commented:
Off Topic:
If you can, watch Glenn Beck today… he is on fire!!!
DaveinW-S commented:
Christianity may have nuts, but Bob Schieffer has none.
reliapundit commented:
on a % basis jews suffer the worst: more crimes in total and fewer jews BY FAR.
reliapundit commented:
the leftist dominated msm is not for peace; they’re on the other side.
the leftist dominated msm is not for truth or objectivity; they’re on the other side.
reliapundit commented:
70% of hate crimes are against jews.
jews make up 2% of the population.
70% of hate crimes are against jews.
jews make up 2% of the population.
70% of hate crimes are against jews.
jews make up 2% of the population.
gus commented:
Apparently CBS news has it nuts too.
bg commented:
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puke..
flashback to the future..
just a sample:
[The appeasers are found not only in the opposition parties but also within Sarkozy’s own party, where Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who envies him his popularity, is eager to bring his rival down. Apart from political intra-party rivalry, however, there are two reasons why most politicians seem to be of the appeasing kind.
The first one is that the Muslim population in Western Europe has become so large that politicians fear what it might be capable of. Commenting on the situation in Britain, Theodore Dalrymple wrote in City Journal: “Surveys suggest that between 6 and 13 percent of British Muslims – that is, between 98,000 and 208,000 people – are sympathetic toward Islamic terrorists and their efforts. Theoretical sympathy expressed in a survey is not the same thing as active support or a wish to emulate the ‘martyrs’ in person, of course. But it is nevertheless a sufficient proportion and absolute number of sympathizers to make suspicion and hostility toward Muslims by the rest of society not entirely irrational, though such suspicion and hostility could easily increase support for extremism. This is the tightrope that the British state and population will now have to walk for the foreseeable future.” It applies to all West European nations. Where, however, is the boundary between carefully walking the tightrope and falling victim to the Stockholm syndrome? The latter would mean that Western politicians act as hostages of the Muslim extremists.
A second reason why some politicians try to appease the Muslims is that these are now a substantial segment of the voting population. Demographics are deciding the fate of Europe’s democracy. Time is running out. If Sarkozy cannot win the battle today, it is unlikely that he or anyone else will be able to do so tomorrow. If Clichy turns out to be Sarkozy’s Waterloo, it will be a catastrophe not just for France.]
Earth to Charlie et al, you are not exempt..
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DIck Nixon commented:
Nixon saw where no one had mentioned that Islam is a 7th century death cult/false religion.
There you go.
bg commented:
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like i have been posting about for months, nay
since first i ever heard the name B Hussein O..
TO THOSE SWORN & ENTRUSTED TO KEEP
US FREE FROM A SELF DECLARED ENEMY..
you don’t understand..
[Islam is based upon the principles of dualism and submission. However, you don't have to be a Muslim to invoke them. Obama has closely aligned himself with Rev. Wright's "Black Liberation Theology", BLT.
[..]
Since Muslims are the best of people and follow a perfect doctrine, there is no need to even examine Islam, since, ipso facto, it is right. Therefore, all criticism of Islam is hate speech.]
you really don’t understand..
[Barack Obama has closely aligned himself with Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Black Liberation Theology (BLT). When viewed from the Christian point-of-view, BLT is a strange creed, but when seen from the standpoint of Islam, there is a very strong parallel.
Islam and BLT are theologies that have a political goal of making
all politics submit to their demands. Submission is the political goal.
[..]
The reason for so many parallels between Islam and BLT is that they are both based upon the same principles—submission and duality. Since Islam views white America as an enemy, BLT see Islam as the “enemy of my enemy” and therefore is a friend. Witness the award that Rev. Wright gave Louis Farrakhan as an outstanding person. This comradeship is temporary. When the time comes and Islam is fully ascendant, BLT will find out that Islam has been using them, just as Islam uses the Left. In the end, Islam will annihilate BLT for the simple reason that Islam demands political submission from ALL, not the just the whites.]
no, you truly don’t “get it”..
[We have two sets of enemies. The far enemy is the politics of Islam.
The near enemies are the dhimmi apologists, fueled by ignorance and multiculturalism and political correctness.
[..]
The elites have a solution for Islam. War is evil and causes suffering. If you treat people well, they will treat you well. This is a logical fallacy that if we treat others well they will treat us well. That is true, if and only if, they follow the Golden Rule.
So if the Golden Rule inspires you to be non-violent, and if the person you are dealing with also practices the Golden Rule, all is fine. But if the other person doesn’t follow the Golden Rule, then they can take advantage of you.
Let’s take three brief historical examples. The Buddhists of ancient Afghanistan were the descendents of Alexander the Great’s warriors. The warriors had been converted to pacifism by Buddhism. Along came Islam and killed every single pacifist who would not convert to Islam. The result
is that Buddhism was annihilated in Central Asia.]
AND YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED AD NAUSEUM
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Zoomie commented:
All I can say is you guys are truely weird! And dangerous sounding…
By the way…someone needs to get a grasp of statistics.
118 hate crimes against Christians
115 hate crimes against Muslims
Yep, more again Christians!
But…
78% of America is Christian
0.6% of America is Muslim
Hence, unless there are 130 times as many crimes against Christians as against Muslims, there are FAR MORE crimes against Muslims on a per capita basis than Christians!
But why let simple facts confuse a great hate-fest!
bg commented:
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The (Really) Moderate Muslims of Kosovo by Michael J. Totten, 12/21/08
[On February 17, 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia, becoming the newest country in the world—and one of the most unusual. Most of its citizens are Muslim, an oddity in Europe; further, unlike most Muslim-majority nations, Kosovo is overwhelmingly pro-American, and its relations with Israel are excellent as well. No Arab countries have recognized the new nation’s existence yet, and only Saudi Arabia has said that it will. Perhaps this isn’t surprising, since Kosovars differ more radically from their brothers in the Arab world than any other Islamic people on earth.
Most of this difference is probably news to distant observers. Kosovo lies in the former Yugoslavia on Europe’s Balkan peninsula, a distant corner of southeastern Europe where relatively few travelers venture. The fog of war never really lifted after the combatants’ guns fell silent in 1999. The grievances that animated the warring parties seemed inscrutable to many Westerners, who often didn’t understand why Western powers got involved in the first place. Yet despite their obscurity, Kosovars today stand as a rebuttal to the notion that Muslims will be forever shackled to authoritarian rule and wedded to war with the modern, pluralistic “Other.”
About 90 percent of Kosovo’s 2 million inhabitants are ethnic Albanians; 7 percent are Serbs. Of the Albanians, about 3 percent are Catholic, and all the rest are at least nominal Muslims; the Serbs, meanwhile, are all Orthodox Christians. Against this backdrop, many observers interpreted the Balkan wars that tore Yugoslavia to pieces during the 1990s as an inevitable resurgence of ancient hatreds in a post-Communist ideological vacuum.
But the truth was that Serbian nationalists, led by Yugoslavian dictator Slobodan Milošević, had deliberately crafted their own ethnic nationalism as an ideology to replace Communism, seeking to retain power and seize as much territory as possible as the Yugoslav federation unraveled. On June 29, 1989, just a few months before the Berlin Wall fell, Milošević delivered a thunderous speech to throngs of budding Serbian nationalists in the Kosovar village of Kosovo Polje. Exactly 600 years earlier, on the nearby Field of Blackbirds, the Turks had defeated Serbian ruler Tsar Lazar in an epic battle, ending the sovereignty of Serbia’s medieval kingdom and beginning its absorption into the Ottoman Empire. “No one will ever beat you again,” Milošević promised his audience.]
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penny commented:
Abdul-Rashid Abdullah, deputy director of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, told FoxNews.com that the nonprofit group has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed “simply because he was Muslim.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572588,00.html
KR commented:
Reversal of who’s who:
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=10052
bg commented:
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re: bg @ 5:18 pm #32
[There is, however, a small group of radicals inside Kosovo who would like to transform moderate Balkan Islam into the much sterner Wahhabi variety practiced in Saudi Arabia. Several well-funded Saudis and other Gulf Arabs moved to Kosovo after the 1999 war to rebuild destroyed mosques and to impose Wahhabism on the decadent locals. Most ethnic Albanians across the political and religious spectrum in Kosovo resent these intrusions, partly because ornate Ottoman-style mosques destroyed by the Serbian military are being replaced with severe Wahhabi-style monstrosities, but also because hardly any Albanians seek guidance from the backward and authoritarian Arab world. “We don’t call them Wahhabis here,” a well-connected Albanian woman tells me. “We call them Binladensa, the people of bin Laden.” In Kosovo, that isn’t a compliment.
“We never had them before,” a young Albanian journalist says. “We hear these rumors that they are paying people”—to visit mosques and cover their hair, that is. I can’t confirm the rumor, but it’s widely believed, and I heard it from almost a dozen people. If true, it means that even the tiny minority who are willing to adopt the outward trappings of conservative Islam will do so only if they’re paid. If false, the fact that so many believe it reveals a broad contempt for rigid Arabic Islam and a belief that Albanian culture will not bend naturally to it. “You should see how the general public receives these people,” says a Kosovo human rights official. “They certainly are not liked. I don’t think they will succeed.”
Wahhabis are encountering resistance from Kosovo’s religious community as well as from its atheists and agnostics. “We are working very hard to stop these kinds of movements,” says Hamiti. “These kinds of movements are dangerous for all nations, for the faiths, for all religions. The traditional Islam that has been cultivated in these areas is the best guarantee for the future. If we allow foreigners to come here and to push us to war with their ideas, then the situation will be out of our control.”
Tellingly, Kosovo’s only Islamist party got just 1.7 percent of the vote in the last election. Not even during the 1999 war, when ethnic Albanians were desperate for help, were Islamists welcome in Kosovo. Contrast this with Bosnia, which did accept help from mujahideen: after the European community imposed an arms embargo on all warring sides in Yugoslavia, leaving the barely armed Bosnians to twist in the wind, about 1,000 veterans of the anti-Soviet insurgency in Afghanistan streamed into the country. “In Kosovo,” Berisha says, “they came to support us and we rejected them. . . . This is not jihad. We are not fighting for religion here.
We are fighting for our freedom, for ourselves, and for our families.”
It certainly helped that NATO stopped the fighting in Kosovo long before it could fester as it did in Bosnia. Still, the secular nature of the old Kosovo Liberation Army is worth noting. “In the two years that I covered the conflict in Kosovo, never once did I see the mujahideen fighters I saw in Bosnia, or hear KLA soldiers even allude to any kind of commitment to Islam,” Stacy Sullivan wrote in Newsweek. “Most said they were offended by such allegations, bragged about how they were Catholic before the Ottomans came and converted them, and said their only religion was Albanianism.”
Even so, the KLA was a murky organization with alleged links to organized crime and political gangsterism, and it was dissolved in September 1999, almost immediately after NATO’s intervention. Many of its former commanders ran for office in Kosovo’s first postwar election and lost overwhelmingly to the Democratic League of Kosovo, led by the pacifist Ibrahim Rugova. Kosovo is almost unique in history for rejecting its militant would-be liberators after earning de facto independence. Perhaps this pacifism was exactly what Kosovo needed after the fires of war died down. Foreign soldiers were on hand to provide security. Militant ethnic nationalism or, worse, militant religious sectarianism could easily have turned Kosovo into the Iraq of Europe.]
we’re seeing more & more Islamists impose their “beliefs” on US &
just about everyone else these days, not to mention the President..
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Chisum commented:
Definitely getting closer to popcorn time!
Update: Lou Dobbs to Quit CNN
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/lou-dobbs-to-depart-cnn/
Neo commented:
Lynne Graham commented:
Zoomie, This country was founded on Christian beliefs, but we Christians are seeing our beliefs destroyed along with the rest of the country. Political Correctness is the rule and will be this country’s downfall. So take up for your muzzie victims and you will love living under Sharia law. No more beer on Friday nights or any other night!!!
BurmaShave commented:
The Liberal media = apologists of terrorism
Chisum commented:
Correction: Death Toll at Fort Hood Terrorist Attack Is 14, Not 13
Via Michelle Malkin, a reminder that, in addition to killing 13 people and wounding 30 at Fort Hood last week, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan also murdered soldier Francheska Velez’s baby. Velez’s cousin told the Washington Post that Private Velez “was supposed to be coming very, very soon. Everyone’s devastated. Everyone’s at a loss for words. She was very young. She wasn’t supposed to die the way she died.”
Under the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, Hasan is “guilty of a separate offense” for causing “the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365) to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place.”
Will the Obama administration prosecute?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/11/correction_death_toll_at_fort_1.asp
Halleck commented:
Lynne, if you are seeing your beliefs destroyed, then that is a weakness in you.
I can’t believe how terrified you all are of teh scary Muslims!!!! What a bunch of pussies.
bg commented:
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the MSM had better get concerned vs
covering up atrocities like CNN did in Iraq
Muhammadans have killed approx 80 billion
people in the course of Islams “peaceful” history..
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bg commented:
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correction re: bg @ 6:24 pm #42
80 billion = 80 million
sorry about the typo..
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bg commented:
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Halleck @ 6:22 pm #41
there are none so blind as those who will not see..
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Observer commented:
@ Halleck,
You do realize that it is you and not the people posting on this website that are truly scared of muslims. It is people like you that don’t want to discuss the obvious problems (like violence) within islam and criticize all who do.
It is you that is scared of them and don’t want their wrath to come your way if you merely discuss the obvious.
The people here are not scared of islam, they wish to defeat it.
Halleck commented:
Quoting a letter to the editor in the Moonie Times?
Oh deary me, I better just give up now.
Now go tremble in the corner.
bg commented:
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[..] notorious rebuke to the Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace crowd:
“Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]…. Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
~ Ayatollah Khomeini
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Observer commented:
Halleck is clearly recently college educated. You just don’t get people that stupid naturally. You have to go through the indoctrination machine before you start sounding that dumb and using obfuscation and name calling as a method of debate.
or
Maybe he’s really that uninformed.
Richard Romano commented:
Zoomie
But why let simple facts confuse a great hate-fest!
Pointing out that murderous acts in the name of faith tend to be standard fare amongst radicalized Muslims, and a complete non entity in devout Christians is now a hate fest?
Bereft of thought, the ideological left.
AuntieMadder commented:
This just in:
ABC News Reporters Are The Real Idiots.
CBS Reports: “Some of us are idiots, too.”
Richard Romano commented:
Quoting a letter to the editor in the Moonie Times?
Oh deary me, I better just give up now.
Now go tremble in the corner.
This is all you’ve got — ad hominems and non sequiturs.
You don’t have a coherent thought in you, do you? Instead of gesticulating like an intellectual lightweight, give us a substantive argument as to why you disagree with the substance of the article.
Richard Romano commented:
Halleck
I can’t believe how terrified you all are of teh scary Muslims!!!! What a bunch of pussies.
This is Halleck’s way of arguing his position.
You’re sure to win people over to your side. Great work!
aprilnovember811 commented:
When I see these people, I feel like I’m in a foreign country. I’m so sick of them. I want hearings, I want the entire Obama regime under oath!
Eric commented:
Islamist hatred is a red herring. Political correctness is being used to cover up the blatant take-over of America by “hope and change” socialism/marxism/fascism being perpetrated by the “we won” administration/education system/bureaucracy intent on the take over and destruction of America. Keep the focus people, communists don’t allow any religion.
ar05075 commented:
Nidal Hasan and the followers if Islam are the real ENEMY.!!!
Richard Romano commented:
Zoomie
Hence, unless there are 130 times as many crimes against Christians as against Muslims, there are FAR MORE crimes against Muslims on a per capita basis than Christians!
You’re probably too dumb to realize that such statistics prove how tolerant our country is. With such a disparity of faith observance there should be far more attacks on Muslims than there are.
Reading comprehension is probably not your strongest suit.
Mike W commented:
Hallneck are you a natural born salad tosser or did you attend a Salad Tosser University?
bg commented:
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penny @ 5:22 pm #33
Abdul-Rashid Abdullah, deputy director of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council, told FoxNews.com that the nonprofit group has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed “simply because he was Muslim.”
i’ve heard that too, also from a devout
Muslim, namely Dr. Zudhi Jasser</a..
(note how fast Jasser spits out the
words she tried to put in his mouth)
a bit more here..
and much more here
ie: UN Treaty would be a significant blow
to Religious Freedom and Individual Liberty
[Meanwhile, in New York on October 29th, Syria, on behalf of the OIC, along with Belarus and Venezuela, proposed yet another General Assembly resolution "combating defamation of religions." The resolution lends credibility to the proposal of a binding treaty and continues to provide international cover for domestic anti-blasphemy laws in countries like Pakistan and Sudan. A preliminary vote on the resolution is expected before Thanksgiving, and a final plenary vote is expected in early to mid-December.
In response, the American Islamic Forum for Democracy has joined over 100 other human rights organizations in a common civil society statement against the concept of "defamation of religions." This coalition is indeed an odd group of bedfellows, both religiously diverse with Muslims, Christians, Baha'is, Jews, Hare Krishnas, Atheists, Humanists, and non-religious organizations, and also regionally diverse, hailing from over 20 countries around the world.]
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Joanne commented:
Lou Dobbs possibly resigned today, effective immediately from CNN. Perhaps he will go over to Fox News…..just a thought. I have my thoughts why, but it would be nice to know what happened.
Joanne commented:
“I can’t believe how terrified you all are of teh scary Muslims!!!! What a bunch of pussies.”
Obviously you haven’t been hacked up by a machete or shot in the back or blown to smithereens as of late. Don’t expect any mercy from Muslims h@ll bent on killing you – the word isn’t in their vocabulary.
And it is true, it is the likes of you who cower to political correctness so as to not offend and to save yourself from the wrath of the merciless. Political correctness is a tool to oppress the masses, and people need to look political correctness in the face and tell it to take a hike.
C. Ryan commented:
Gateway Pundit:
The Stoooopid: It Burns! LOL!
The right-wing blog Gateway Pundit says Christians are the target of more hate crimes in the U.S. than Muslims:
In the real world… Hate crimes against Muslims have steadily declined since 2001. Today there are more reported hate crimes against Christians in the United States than Muslims.
That’s a reference to the fact that there were 115 reported hate crime incidents against Muslims in 2007, according to the FBI, and 118 against Christians.
Now, this would be a good time to keep in mind that 78 percent of American adults are Christian, and 0.6 percent are Muslim. In other words, there are about 130 times as many Christians in the US as there are Muslims. And yet there were essentially the same number of reported hate crimes against Muslims as against Christians in 2007.
That sure paints a different picture than Gateway Pundit’s statement that “there are more reported hate crimes against Christians in the United States than Muslims,” doesn’t it?
In an effort to downplay hate crimes against Muslims, Gateway Pundit has accidentally provided a reminder of just how disproportionately Muslims are the victims of such crimes. Heckuva job, GP.
ar05075 commented:
bg
November 11th, 2009 | 6:25 pm | #43
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correction re: bg @ 6:24 pm #42
80 billion = 80 million
sorry about the typo..
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typo…or prophecy?
Mike W commented:
C Ryan since you did not leave a link it is apparent you got this info from your salad tosser leaders at kos or huff puff or some other salad tosser media.
Salad tossers long on BS shirt on facts.
ar05075 commented:
C. Ryan
November 11th, 2009 | 7:35 pm | #61
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You are an appeasing little putz, and you’re pathetic.
Richard Romano commented:
In an effort to downplay hate crimes against Muslims, Gateway Pundit has accidentally provided a reminder of just how disproportionately Muslims are the victims of such crimes. Heckuva job, GP.
Too bad you’re as dumb as Zoomie — in your effort to appear intellectual, you come off as a pompous jerk with the analytical abilities of a prepubescent child.
I repeat myself — the implication is that the disparity of faith observance proves how tolerant we actually are. A country full of Christian wackos actually perpetrates very few hate crimes against religious minorities.
But, you don’t see it that way — you’ve got your ideological blinders on a tad too tight.
wanumba commented:
118 hate crimes against Christians
115 hate crimes against Muslims
Yep, more again Christians!
But…
78% of America is Christian
0.6% of America is Muslim
Hence, unless there are 130 times as many crimes against Christians as against Muslims, there are FAR MORE crimes against Muslims on a per capita basis than Christians!
But why let simple facts confuse a great hate-fest!
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Okay. Let’s put those puny statistics into perspective to demonstrate how SAFE it is for ANYONE Muslim or otherwise to live in AMerica, and how Christians really react to Muslim violence.
In 1989, thousands of Black Muslims were attacked by White Muslims in Mauritania, which had outlawed slavery in only 1981. Hundreds were slaughtered and hundreds maimed and wounded in the space of THREE DAYS, not a year. 10,000 fled with just the clothes on their backs for shelter with the police. Tit-for-tat deadly rioting began in majority Muslim Senegal,sending thousands of Mauritanians to police shelter in that country. In one month’s time, over 100,000 people crossed the border between the two countries, fleeing/beaten/ stripped of belongings, even CLOTHES, across in both directions, despite the newspaper assurances that “We are all brothers in Islam.” Mauritania had at that time a population of about 1.9 million, so work the percentages of the victims of that violence versus a country the size of America with 300 million people. What would it have to be in America to even remotely approach the scale of that brutality and death toll in a week’s time? Muslim on Muslim violence, started on a RUMOR.
Who provided emergency humanitarian aid during this completely unexpected and unprecedented ethnic cleansing? 9:am all normal, just another day, 10:00 am all hell broke loose, nothing was the same, ever again.
THe major aid agencies that hustled to scrape together whatever they had ON HAND to help 10,000 people with no food, water and medical care huddled at a mosque in the Sahara desert: an EMERGENCY no one was prepared for as an essentially captive people were succoming to by the HOUR to the heat and dehydration.
US Embassy
USAID
US Peace Corps
World Vision
Catholic Relief Services (CRS)
Lutheran World Federation
Caritas (Catholic)
CARE
Doulos Community (American missionaries)
Medecines sans frontiers
There were other small groups – but Mauritania was so hard to live in (poor poor poor) that all
the above offices represented some of the smallest aid offices of any one of the above mentioned humanitarian agencies.
Not only did these groups unite to provide aid, they had terrified Africans – Black Senegalese – many co-workers, some total strangers – hiding in their homes and offices for shelter as mobs continued to roam thru the nights, despite an official 8pm-8am curfew.
Stressful?
The group between the two Muslim populations, on BOTH sides of the border – aid to Mauritanians in Senegal, aid to Senegalese in Mauritania were primarily Christian – Catholic and Protestant and for all groups, mostly American. US Peace Corps Volunteers were awesome, a cadre of Americans who were pulled in to the capital for their safety, then designed, built and began installing in 6 hours, with the help of the US EMbassy GSO carpentry shop, a mass-produced latrine system that would serve 10,000 people, when they provided that, the Peace Corps office with the volunteers and captive Senegalese organized rapid food and water distribution networks inside the mosques to get whatever food was available to be distributed to everyone, men, women and children. From Embassy warehouses, USAID and USAID contractors faced with the crisis of water and no water cisterns for off-loading, commandeered dumpsters, welded any holes, washed and delivered within 6 hours of getting the frantic plea for help, serviceable water reservoirs that staved off what would have been a deadly and tragic water riot. The government had refused any help, aggravating the dire circumstances until they realized they were on the verge of total disaster and then threw up their hands and said, “you do it.”
There were Americans in USAID, Peace Corps, US Embassy, Catholic Relief Services, World Vision, Doulos Community – even US military who had been there on other business dropped everything – medics went to help with the wounded, often paired with Peace Corps Volunteers who could speak the local languages and translate.
So when biased people who want to push animosity against Christians and Americans use exaggerated hardships in the USA to support their narrow-minded prejudice, be reminded it’s a fraud to discourage and to promote distructive divisiveness.
Americans and Christians have nothing to be ashamed of in their dealings with Muslims, and do not believe the lie that most Muslims don’t care. Some don’t, because of political conditioning, but many many do.
AMerica has a distinct culture that is based on Rule oF Law. It is not an accepted practice to hold a group responsible for the actions of one or a few. The crisis in Mauritania was exactly the opposite, punishing an entire group for the actions of few, taking the law into mobs, not courts. The human destruction would have been much worse if Americans and Christians had not been there to help the victims – on both sides of the conflict.
bg commented:
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Eric @ 6:49 pm #54
i agree, but sincerely must reiterate.. along with Sharia
Law aka: Political Islam aka: PC’s brethren so to speak..
Political Islam is the worlds external enemy,
Political Correctness is it’s internal enemy..
just a sample:
The insanity and racism of British “political correctness”
[Under the guise of 'political correctness,' Britain demands of their leaders
to leave tyrants and dictators alone, which permits them to get on with their crimes and butchery.
Over Iraq, 'politically incorrect' Blair was right and just in his decision to go to war against an evil dictator. 'Politically correct' Galloway is wrong. Indeed, by standing alongside Saddam Hussein and using the British parliament and media to keep him in power, Galloway's actions are criminal. Yet the Muslim voters of Bethnal Green have swept him into Parliament as their newly elected representative.]
..along with too numerous to count others.. *sigh*
ps re: Sharia Law
ps re: Political Islam
ps re: brethren
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jainphx commented:
All I know is that our fighting men and women have more raw GUTS than any Islamonazi. Takes much more courage to face death when life is what you desire.
Afraid of Muslims? What a stupid comment! The only ones afraid of them are the ones that want to appease them, we can’t have them get mad at us now do we, so we walk on egg shells and kiss their filthy behinds out of fear. Not the real Americans on this blog, no they are to a man and women heads above you sniveling behind kissing, appeasing, cowardly lets run and hide supposed Americans. We are so little afraid that we allow you kissers to post your drivel here and on other conservative blogs. The reverse is not true, your side bans any that don’t toe the leftist line. No my friend you are the coward and a Pu. No I wont use that word your scum.
Duane Phinney commented:
They are just ignorant of the facts.
* 62% of Koran is devoted to how Islam interacts with the kafir (the unbeliever).
* 98% of the Sira is devoted to the struggle against kafirs. (70% is jihad; 28% is argument and insults.)
* 20% of Bukhari Hadith is devoted to jihad.
bg commented:
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jainphx @ 8:00 pm #70
Afraid of Muslims? What a stupid comment! The only ones afraid of them are the ones that want to appease them..[..]
Amen!! (thumbsup)
(re: Amen.. hoping GP posts about this true American..)
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chris commented:
I really hope you’re not stupid enough to not understand the necessity of rates in a discussion like this, and are merely obscuring basic logic to make a failed point.
bg commented:
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C. Ryan @ 7:35 pm #61
just a sample:
a reminder of just how disproportionately
Muslims are the victims of such crimes
hope you looked, listened, learned..
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jainphx commented:
bg- your a gem! Do you have a blog of your own? you sure should, the amount of research you bring to us that are computer limited, is priceless.
Thank you for being there.
bg commented:
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wanumba @ 7:52 pm #67
information much appreciated, thank you..
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bg commented:
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chris @ 8:46 pm #73
those “statistics” only scratch the surface, much of Islamic hate crimes are masked and forbidden to speak of due to the likes of the chickens that have come home to roost in the White House..
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bg commented:
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jainphx @ 8:54 pm #75
thanks, no thanks, and thanks again..
re: bg @ 7:55 pm | #68
The History of Political Correctness
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Mike W commented:
Imagine for a moment how the salad tosser media of today would have covered the Nuremburg trials. Our LSM would have made them all victims.
penny commented:
Bob Schieffer at CBS: “Christianity has nuts too.”
Right, Bob, you liberal moron putz, and, our whole airport security system is centered around homicidal Methodists.
Folks, mocking these idiots is a duty.
When this whole Empty Suit regime burns to the ground there are a lot of MSM idiots going with it.
gus commented:
This is completely absurd. A Muzztard, who was trading e-mails with an Radical Cleric and was trying to reach Al Qaeda, who was obviously not patriotic and was abrogating his oath to the military and who recently went out and bought 2 guns to shoot 40 plus Americans.
And the media is not focusing on the murders, rather making the Murderer and his foul Religion the victims??
Liberals are clearly my enemy.
bg commented:
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apologies, i somehow missed/overlooked your
following posts (and prob many others as well)..
Joanne @ 7:15 pm #59
re: Lou Dobbs [video]
[* "If anybody thinks that we're not engaged in a battle for the soul of this country right now, you're sorely mistaken. And the more you stay on the sidelines and the more you don't make your voice heard, the more likely it
is that we're going to lose this battle for the soul of the nation."
* "My wife and I have been shot at, our driver, my house has been shot and hit. The investigation continues. I've had bodyguards now, you know, I'm not in the mood to put up with little fools like Geraldo Rivera."
* "It's time we really awaken to what is happening in this country, it is ugly, it has to stop, and we have to find the courage to elect congressmen and senators, and yes, presidents who will speak truth. Not pander and not play politically correct games."
* "We need to get real about what is happening in this country, and understand that if this battle for the soul of the country is lost, so much is lost that follows. Respect for our laws, respect for our borders, our ports, our national sovereignty."
* "That respect demands, demands at least an honest debate on Capitol Hill about illegal immigration, it demands at least an honest debate on the airwaves."
* "Why are we not enforcing laws, why do we not demand respect for our sovereignty, why do we not demand honest, open, straightforward debate."
* "Why do we not acknowledge who were are, the most most racially, ethnically diverse society on the face of the earth?"
* "Why don't we talk about how great this nation is, about the great things we accomplished, the great way in which we live, you know, the American way?"]
God Bless & Thank You Lou!! (thumbsup)
& Joanne 7:24 pm #60
check out bg @ 8:35 pm #72
thanks..
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Mike W commented:
I am curious as to how many mooslim hate crimes are perpetrated by other mooslims. Example the mooslim father who killed his mooslim daughter because she was becoming too Western. Does the FBI count this as anti-islamic hate crime?
gus commented:
The MSM are liberals first and foremost.
Hasan was Muzztard first and foremost.
The MSM is unable to fathom the latter. Their libtard weakness and bias does not allow their minds to work logically. Obama has made it clear via his lifes story, that he is a Marxist, with emotional issues. Read his own pathetic words as dictated to Bill Ayers. Obama is NOT Christian. There is ZERO evidence of Jesus in Obama’s life at all. There is PLENTY of EVIDENCE of ISLAM being important to him.
To not notice this or to deny it is preposterous.
Willfull ignorance gets people DEAD.
Nancy B commented:
Does pointing out what a retard you are qualify as an anti-Christian hate crime? If so, Media Matters just turned you into the Matthew Shepard of the right.
Nobama commented:
are these reporters that clueless? Surely some have read the koran like I have. Koran instructs them to kill the infidel. I have to wonder if they are being paid off. These libs dont’ realize muslims will kill them first for speaking out or morality, especially the gays. We know what happens to them, they are hung.
Ladue Pundit commented:
I hope Fox cans Geraldo and his gay alter-ego Shemp Smith and picks up Lou Dobbs.
The holey Qu’ran contains more anti-Semitic references than Mein Kampf.
Did Obama bring his cheering section to Ft. Hood or was it local astroturf? Don’t these fools know how to behave at a wake?
Why were the 2 imans from the shooter’s local terrorist precinct, uh, mosque, at that memorial? They say the perpetrators always return to the scene of the crime.
Nadadhimmi commented:
The newspapers and networks have crossed the Rubicon and are no longer the 4th Estate, they are now the 5th Column. They are Traitorous pigs, covering up for terrorists that want to kill us all.
bg commented:
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Mike W @ 9:42 pm #83
Muslims vs Muslims, that’s what i meant re: 8:57 pm #77
hmm, don’t believe honor killings, victims of flying planes into buildings, blowing up Embassy’s, homicidal/ suicidal bombings, or beheading of infidels etc.. are counted, never mind mutilations/ disfigurements, stonings, or terror attacks on schoolchildren (just for instance).. else the numbers would surely rise.. but alas, they are apparently kosher in their god awful book (just in case there’s a dispute, Muslims have been killed or maimed in every example).. (sort of like how they don’t reveal black on black crime rates are the highest in America, go figure..)
btw, more Muslims have been murdered by their fellow Muslims than all others combined, yet the cry is “Whoever kills a person.. it is as though he has killed all mankind.” *sigh*
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Ladue Pundit commented:
When you have NO FACTS, and you don’t want to argue logically because YOU’LL LOSE, call someone a ‘retard’ (AlGore did it). Then invoke Mathew Shepherd, and sob.
Why are the leftists who troll here always consumed with fags, muslims, and hate crimes?
bg commented:
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re: bg @ 4:40 pm #28 & 10:09 pm #89
Why American Muslims Remain Silent
[Four years after September 11, 2001, numerous non-Muslim Americans repeatedly ask, "Why do American Muslims stay silent in the face of extremism and terrorism? Why do they not act to cleanse their religion of the reputation it has acquired?"
Paradoxically, Muslims in the US and Great Britain are, today, far more dominated by Islamist extremism than their counterparts in various Muslim countries. In many lands where the majority follows Islam, a struggle is underway between mainstream moderates and radicals inspired by the ultra-Wahhabi preachers of Saudi Arabia, the agitators of the Muslim Brotherhood in various Arab countries, and the virulent and volatile adherents of Pakistani jihadism. In some places, from Bosnia-Hercegovina to Indonesia and from Morocco to Mozambique, the moderates are winning. Yet the Islamic communities of the U.S. (dominated by the Saudis) and Britain (run by radical Pakistanis) suffer under a totalitarian regime of thought-control.
What happens when ordinary Muslims rebel against radical domination in America? They are ostracized, thrown out of mosques, and subjected to extraordinary public insults and threats. I myself was harassed in a Long Island mosque in 2003, as noted in this article. Shia mosques are excluded from "Sunni," i.e. Wahhabi-controlled bodies, and numerous incidents of expulsions of individual Shias from Sunni mosques in the U.S. have been reported to the Center for Islamic Pluralism, which I have established.
The "Wahhabi Lobby" -- an assemblage of groupings, headed by the Hamas- and Saudi-backed Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) -- controls the public life of many American Sunnis. It demands certification as moderate, but not in recognition of real moderation or loyalty to the American constitutional tradition. Instead, their demand for recognition and respect is a preemptive strike to shield them from a proper understanding and appreciation of their tactics and aims.
And how does the CAIR gang react when a moderate Muslim activist raises a dissenting voice? It betrays its guilt: accused of extremism, CAIR reacts by the extremist methods of menace and hate-mongering.
The latest such case involves one of the founders of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser of Phoenix, Arizona. Dr. Jasser is a mild-mannered and manifestly moderate individual with a column in the Arizona Republic, the largest daily in the state, on Islamic affairs. Dr. Jasser previously founded the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He is knowledgeable and devoted to the religion of Islam.]
more @ link,
and much more here..
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Nobama commented:
we were on the wrong side in the bosnian war. see the thanks we got ? 911. now we bring bosnians into the usa. remember salt lake city? the young man shot that up was from bosnia. It could not be that he was muslim could it? How can you trust any muslim when their koran tells them to kill the rest of us for the 72 virgins in their so called heaven.
bg commented:
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gus @ 9:52 pm #84
re: [MSM]
aka: (interchangeable) Marxist/Muslim Support Machine
[When so many ask across the nation, "where are the moderate voices of Islam?", one cannot help lately but exclaim that they are being suffocated by misguided political correctness and by Islamist influence within mainstream media and government. The PBS censorship of the documentary, Islam vs. Islamists, highlights one of the best examples to date of the symbiosis of both government complicity and media complicity with the Islamist ideology.
The recent RAND corporation research project highlighting the dire need to Build Moderate Muslim Networks in this new global "long war" against militant Islamism and its ideological siblings will never come to fruition with the current blinded pro-Islamist mainstream media approach. The mainstream media (MSM) is apparently blind to the real ideology of Islamism and they allow Islamists to hide their theocracy behind minority politics. The MSM not only avoids the free flow of ideas within the Muslim community, it effectively allows the Islamists completely to stifle any and all debate which would have allowed Muslims to question those in positions of authority within the Islamic community.
It is time for the MSM to stop protecting Muslims from one another and to stop stifling the debate many anti-Islamist Muslims would like to wage against leading Islamists. If Muslims are going to form a public expression of Islam which is reconciled with western democracies which separate religion and government, this debate against Islamism needs yet to begin, let alone blossom into cultural change for Muslims.
Islamists fear nothing more than credible and genuine debate against the core political ideology of Islamism from pious anti-Islamist Muslims. With an ideological counter from anti-Islamist Muslims- the Islamist emperor "has no clothes". At every level, they are using America's naïveté about Islam in order to continue their theft of Islam for the political agenda of Islamism. The Islamists know that anti-Islamist Muslims rob them of their minority trump card of Islamophobia and force them to come to terms with the anti-freedom, and anti-liberty and anti-pluralistic ideology of Islamism. Anti-Islamist, pro-Islamic Muslims expose the real motives of Islamists--which is the exploitation of the spiritual path of Islam for political and governmental power and coercion.]
more @ link & here..
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gus commented:
Did Opie do a SHOUT OUT to Farrakhan at Fort Hood today??
They are “old friends” and it would be appropriate as a UNCLENCHED FIST to ISLAM!!
right??
KR commented:
OT:
MO’s idea of appropriate dress for a Veterans’ Day ceremony:
http://hillbuzz.org/2009/11/11/why-cant-jill-biden-take-mrs-utopia-shopping-sometime/attachment/58886567/
Mike W commented:
Why are the leftists who troll here always consumed with fags, muslims, and hate crimes?
The salad tossers all have one thing in common They are all VICTIMS.
You do see that a salad tosser is nothing w/o victimhood.
Labeling them salad tosser is actually a status symbol. It should prove to them that they have a useful purpose aside from just being a victim.
bg commented:
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Nobama @ 10:29 pm #92
you must have missed this..
they (& apparently every other country
on the planet, including US) have been infiltrated..
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bg commented:
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Mike W @ 10:40 pm #96
You do see that a salad tosser
is nothing w/o victimhood.
oh yeah, and they’re a bit anal
(in more ways than one)..
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bg commented:
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KR @ 10:40 pm #95
they will make themselves noticed no matter what it takes.. and no matter
what it takes they will make themselves noticed in order to take the focus
off what counts so as not to come in second..
Obama logic is simple..
IT’S US OR THEM!!
(of course this is no surprise, as IslaMarxists
always give new meanings to “just words”..)
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Just Sayin' commented:
Wow! Whatever happened to truth in advertising?
Typical GP ploy here: The headline reads, “ABC News: Nidal Hasan & Followers of Islam Are the Real Victims.”
Which sounds pretty crappy all right–until you watch the clip and see what was actually said. And then you notice that:
1. Hasan isn’t mentioned nor portrayed in any way as a “victim.”
2. It’s not just any ol’ “followers of Islam” being discussed in the tape–IT’S UNITED STATES MILITARY PERSONNEL who are of the Muslim faith.
3. Nor does it ever depict our Muslim troops as “victims.” It simply says they face “challenges” regarding questions of their loyalty, on a scale not seen since Japanese-American troops fought in WWII.
Ya know, not ALL your readers are stupid. Some are beginning to notice the same kind of totally dishonest crap I’ve called you on here and are going to realize the extent to which you, at very best, torture the truth–if you’re not ignoring it entirely.
bg commented:
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btw re: bg @ 11:03 pm #101
sarc on/
i really wouldn’t put it past either of them to punish the White
House with a new baby in order to boost dear hubby’s ratings..
can you even imagine the jingoism tingle’s??
wiat for it, it’s coming even if they have to adopt a “mistake”..
/sarc off
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Mike W commented:
Just Sayin` Thank You for pointing out the obvious of what we see every time you post a comment.You are just a typical salad tosser of the communist party.
Just Sayin\' commented:
Hi Mike,
Please see comment #69 at: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/11/columbia-prof-smacks-female-colleague-in-face-during-face-during-white-privelege-dabate/#comment-15179
Thanks,
JS
MVH commented:
Waaaaaaaaa….waaaa…waa. My heart breaks for the latest in the list of privileged crybabies.
wanumba commented:
Muslims in the military are such the victims they can hand out “I’m 4 Violent Jihad” on their business cards and never get jumped.
IF Muslims are so conflicted, it’s a VOLUNTEER military. They do not have to join in the first place if it is too complicated, and in fact have no business joining because no military can function if soldiers clutch, dither and back-pedal at all the wrong moments. Nasan wasn’t serving or ever was slated to serve in any measure in combat, so WHAT were the so-called “conflicts” he had about military service as regards to his beliefs?
Here’s a question to answer:
Since Nasan willingly transgressed UNIVERSAL boundaries on MURDER, how come it is automatically assumed anything he SAYS is LEGIT? He was willing to MURDER, how much easier is it to LIE-LIE-LIE-LIE?
How come the media takes uncritically that Nasan, and the people he associated with, are telling the truth on ANYTHING? And IF Nasan whinges about people being short with him, how come HIS negative attitude isn’t factored into this? How is a group of people supposed to react when he runs a sideshow of “jihad is better than YOU slime?”
He can’t fathom why everyone made themselves scarce whenever he walked in a room?
Yah. Right. The media looks like fools and enablers of Nasan’s terror: years of intimidation and verbal harrassment Nasan perpetrated against soldiers, followed by a deadly ambush that killed and wounded soldiers.
Just Sayin\\\' commented:
“Muslims in the military are such the victims they can hand out “I’m 4 Violent Jihad” on their business cards and never get jumped.”
Wanumba, you’ve been duped by GP’s headline, which is a misrepresentation of what’s said in the newsclip at the top of this page.
See post #100 above for details.
Mike W commented:
Just Sayin` when obamaos nose is way up in the air I can tell your busy at work being the best salad tosser you can be.
Just Sayin' commented:
Hi Mike,
Your clear obsession with the term “salad tosser”–as anyone can see, you mention it in literally every post you make–makes me wonder how many times your own personal salad was tossed during your last period of incarceration.
Never mind. Don’t ask; don’t tell.
LOL
Mike W commented:
Just Sayin` your intelligence clearly makes it apparent that being a professional salad tosser is the only skill you could ever realize.Go back to the professional salad tosser at Kos,huff po and media matters.That is after all were all salad tossers meet.
bg commented:
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unfreakinbelieveable..
some arsehole who knows didly squat says Muslims in the Military are harassed after a highly notable Military Muslim Doctor states he never witnessed any Muslim he knows (or knows of) in the Military were ever harassed..
but that’s not the point i want to make..
the point i want to make is how they consistently
accuse the victims of the deeds they commit..
while it’s a clearly witnessed fact that Nidal Hasan is the one who
was doing the HARASSING, not the other way around, HELL-O??
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bg commented:
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re: bg @ 12:22 am #110
while = when
or whatever, you know what i mean..
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bg commented:
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Just Sayin’
obviously no prayin’..
but i know how to google (failed salad toss)..
ergo, considering your inside knowledge, it’s not hard “to tell” where you’ve been..
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Sandy commented:
The media looks like utter fools once again. Hasan was just a victin? Well this victim killed 14 people–one of the women killed was pregnant. The Dems choose to ignore the death of her unborn child. All in all Hasan shot 51 people–the only victims were those wounded or killed by this terrorist.
Frank commented:
What a total farce the MSM is. Our troops and their safety is uppermost in the AMERICANS thoughts and prayers and for the MSM and others to throw them under the bus to PC is HORRIFIC!!! I have no other words for them except TREASON.
Sandy commented:
If the Dems want to feel anyone’s pain let them feel the pain of the American Unemployed. 7.4% Unemployment when Bush left office 10.2% now. Do they show the plight of these people who have lost their homes and jobs–NO. Instead we are all supposed to shed tears for a man who committed an atrocity because he hates this country and our way of life.
Obama shows his weakness as he tries to apologize to these people who hate us. He thinks if he apologizes for “our arrogance” they will come to love us. How naive can you get?
Sandy commented:
Frank — I listen to talk radio and Fox News. As for the rest I wouldn’t waste my time. What must our military be thinking now? Their morale was already at an all time low because they felt their CIC wasn’t giving them his support. Now they are attacked when they are supposed to be safe at home and they along with the rest of us are blamed. Its amazing.
Obama called Americans who disagree with him on Healthcare — extremists and tea baggers. But we are not allowed to call a terrorist a terrorist–something is wrong with this picture.
Frank commented:
Sandy- I have had enough of the so called media to ever watch them again. I have watched how they have attacked our AMERICAN citizens and have been appalled. I lived through the time when we as children had drills in school, to hide under our desks in school because maybe the Russian Communists would attack. Now I see, it’s our government that is doing what we should hide from. But they have severely underestimated the AMERICAN people and what we won’t stand for.
wanumba commented:
Wanumba, you’ve been duped by GP’s headline, which is a misrepresentation of what’s said in the newsclip at the top of this page.
…………………..
Let’s see,
Major Nasan’s business card had
SoA on it = Soldier of Allah.
He harangued US troops under his care, he busied himself with creepy slide shows on why jihadi is good and everyone else is bad …
Perhaps if the media apologists had taken a few minutes reviewing what has been found out about this guy they wouldn’t have embarassed and discredited themslves by such an obviously whitewashing “report.”
In this report, the real villain is the military – always causing STRESS on white guys, rednecks, now Muslims.
Not buying it.
There is a huge story – why the military didn’t wash him out early on, but for some peculiar reason, the media doesn’t want to go there.
If Nasan don’t mind murdering, he don’t mind LYING abut anything and everything. Therefore using any statments he makes as a basis for a so-called news report to speculate on OTHER Muslims in the military is just preposterous, and since it’s WAR, one would be a naive fool to think he is the only infiltrator – he’s just the most visible one.
And Scott Beauchamps wasn’t Muslim, but he also infiltrated to cause harm to our soldiers via negative propaganda written by him, plus fiction-writer fake soldier Jesse McBeth – traumatized by war atrocities he made up out of his imagination, the sneaky low-down liar. Quite a bit of which was just the sort of nut-cake US solidier strawman Nasan used to give him cover for his “grievances.
bg commented:
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wanumba @ 1:33 am #118
for some reason i feel the presence of Kerry lurking somewhere in this unabashed unashamed
deliberately fictional Cronkite like reporting scenario..
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bg commented:
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via TRBO
Glenn Beck Show November 11, 2009
1) White House Calls Tea Parties Extremists,
But Not Nidal Malik Hasan?
2) Beck Recites His Extremist Views Today!
3) Beck’s Take on Obama’s Speech
to Nation About Killings:
4) Anita Dunn to Make Millions at
New Job. Mao Would Be Proud:
5) Obama Take Your Time on Afghanistan.
It’s Not Like There’s a War Going On:
God bless him, Glenn is back, pass it on!! (thumbsup)
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Andreas K. commented:
Wanumba, he wouldn’t have problems with lying. Lying to infidels is alright as long as it helps islam. As for murdering infidels, well, infidels commit the worst possible crime, so it’s okay as well. I know, all the apologists will jump me and say I’ve taken things out of context and what not, but eh folks… there is no room for interpretation in the quran. The quran is absolute. Everything written into it is the word of god the way it is written into it. If Mohammed, may he burn in hell, would have written that yellow socks are a sign of the devil and wearers of such socks must be killed, then muslims would be killing people wearing yellow socks, because the quran is absolute and leaves no room for interpretation. The quran is to be taken literally. If you refuse to do that, well… off with your head you heretic infidel swine!
That’s the difference.
The Christians had the reformation, they had the age of enlightenment. People, in general, don’t take the bible literally anymore and I’m actually surprised to see that there are still some people in the 21st century who take the writings (which have been manipulated, changed and forged by the Christians leaders, fact, the bible was artificially created by the Christian leaders around in the early stages of the Catholic Church, they left out things that annoyed them, things they didn’t consider to be the “truth”) literally. But the point is, Christianity evolved, it moved on. It didn’t remain stuck in the middle ages, like islam did.
And of course the left wing likes islam. There are so many similarities. They share the hatred for Jews. They share the hatred for anyone who’s not part of their respective groups. They both hate freedom of speech and democracy. And such things unite. And thus you’ll always see left wing politicians and their “voters” (who’re really nothing else but willing sheep, who, with a working mind and after more than 100 million victims of the left wing ideology in the 20th century, would follow such fascist ideas if he was not a willing sheep?) defend islam.
They are brothers, hellbent to destroy freedom, democracy, liberty and pretty much every value and virtue ever created by civilized peoples.
Andreas K. commented:
And before I forget it:
Ehsan Fattahian, age 28, was murdered yesterday in the prison in Sanandadj, Iran. He was sentenced to death and eventually murdered by the regime because of:
1) Fighting against allah
2) Apostay
He dared to leave islam and for that they murdered him.
Try to find an apology for that, left wing fascists.
Trish commented:
The 14th vicitm Gateway Pundit needs to pot this!!
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/11/the-14th-murder-victim-of-the-fort-hood-jihadi-massacre/
Trish commented:
Actually, post it.
Eriah commented:
Hasan did not die yet he is being portrayed as a martyr, thanks liberal media!
Miss D commented:
Wonder, has ANY news station mentioned that Hasan was on OBAMA’s transition team? I pulled up an Acrobat file published by George Washington University where the transition team was named and I SAW Nadal Hasan’s name there as well as his picture. Don’t count on Washington probing this guy since Democrats HIRED this person.
Andrew commented:
Today Mediamatters criticizes a post by Gatepundit yesterday, in which Gatepundit bragged that hate crimes against muslims total 115 compared to 118 attacks against Christians.
Mediamatters observes that there are many many more Christians in this country than Muslims; so the proportion of hate crimes against Muslims is extremely larger.
Isn’t that common sense?
Annie commented:
Zoomie – Source on your “stats” please. Tx.
TalkinKamel commented:
Wanumba, you raise two interesting points: First, yes, this guy is a murderer; is it so hard to credit that he might well be a liar, too?
And, it’s obvious he made no secret of his contempt for America, or the military—so why isn’t this factored in, with possible accusations of “harassment”? Maybe he did get some dirty looks, and snarky remarks—and maybe these were a reaction to his own bad attitude, not just prejudice?
The military needs to examine the extent to which it may have been infiltrated, and drop the political correctness.
(By the way, good to see you here!)
Foreigner commented:
*tsk tsk* You Americans have achieved the perfect blend of “cretin” and “liar.”
You’re doomed. I suggest you all disband and start over.
Chisum commented:
I wonder if the trolls who visit here and leave their bird droppings that pose as comments will recognize themselves?
Kos They Can
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/11/11/kos-they-can.php
Btw, “Foreigner”, if we follow your advice, how will you survive without our largesse? LOSER!
Chisum commented:
What We Have Here, Is A Refusal To Communicate
We all know the level of ineptitude and narcissism that dwells in Barack Obama. The evidence is overwhelming, and it has manifested itself in an unending parade of nightly, or at least weekly gaffs and mistakes that if the media weren’t so sycophantic, would have resulted in a his complete abandonment by the American people, a short 10 months after his inauguration. For now, I will ignore the 20% or so of Americans, and the politicians that see him as “sort of like god”, and who would follow him straight into Dante’s hell, even as he beat his own child on live TV…These people are hopeless, but for the purposes of this essay, possibly made useful.
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According to my numbers, the score is now 1 dead Moslem vs. approx 3500 dead Americans killed on our own soil, beginning with a certain Moslem killing a certain Kennedy, all the way through last weeks carnage.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/11/what-we-have-here-is-a-refusal-to-communicate-reader-post/
Joanne commented:
Andrew #128 – it would be common sense, but there is two important variables missing. One variable is who or what religious group is attacking and what constitutes a reportable attack. If, for example, you have Muslims responsible for the attacks on Jews and Christians, then you would have a group of people, Muslims, who constitute a much smaller percentage of the American people doing a majority of the attacks. I’m not saying that is the case, but you can see that without important information the study is moot.
Joanne commented:
crap………, but there ‘are’ two…..
TalkinKamel commented:
Now, now, foreigner, if we disbanded, who’d send you, and your failed dystopia of a country, foreign aid?
I don’t have any figures to hand at the moment, but, I believe it’s actually Jews who suffer more hate crimes than any other religious group.
At any rate, parsing numbers is ridiculous. The fact is, there hasn’t been any anti-Moslem backlash, not after 9/11, not now.
There have, however, since 9/11, been quite a few Americans attacked and killed by those who claimed to be following Islam, and numerous failed attacks and uncovered plots against airports, subways and shopping malls, again by those who claim to be following Islam.
We need to stop being politically correct, and look at what’s actually happening.
G commented:
Foreigner #131
STFU, quisling.
Lynn commented:
Islamic jihadist, Islamic jihadist, Islamic jihadist…….what part of this do these asshats not get? Sally Quinn finally said it, these idiots should do the same. The MSM are the most disgusting people to trod the earth. If Muslims don’t like it and get their feelings hurt, oh well. Time for them to face the truth and admit it.