Mary Mapes Unleashed on O'Reilly, Thinks Bush is Lying
MARY MAPES CONTINUES TO SEETHE AT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND CONSERVATIVE BLOGGERS AND SAYS BUSH HAS “SELECTIVE MEMORY”,
Part 2 of the interview is listed to the right of the video clip.
Ashamed of her savage liberalism, and after spending four long years on an investigation that went bust, Mary Mapes still seethes at President Bush and says he has “selective memory”!
The first question Mary Mapes could not answer was if she was a registered democrat in which she said “I don’t know.” This seemed like a strange answer to an obvious question.
The interview begins with questions on Cindy Sheehan. Mapes says she feels sorry for Cindy “Occupied New Orleans“ Sheehan.
O’Reilly: On page 19 (of her new book) you show sympathy for Cindy Sheehan.
Mapes: In reference to the fact that I thought some of Bush’s supporters were Cindy Sheehan’s detractors, and dragged out her divorce situation.
O’Reilly: Oh, I don’t know about that. You didn’t really define it that way. On page 19 clearly you felt that Cindy Sheehan got a raw deal from the media…(on to the fraudulent documents)
Mapes: I believed in these documents. I worked for four years knowing the story of what had happened. I really knew it. I had plenty of reason to believe these documents were real because I didn’t just believe in the document analysts because I believed that their evidence was the least important, was the least believable to me. I am an old fashioned reporter. I believed corroboration. I believed content. I believed vetting. I believed in the meshing I did.
O’Reilly: But your explanation is erroneous for one reason and that is your belief doesn’t matter. You’ve got to be able to prove it. Especially when you are going after the president of the United States (five weeks before the election!) You have to prove it!
Mapes: You can prove it to a journalistic standard.
O’Reilly: I don’t agree.
Mapes: Well then we disagree.
O’Reilly: But, you got fired. And, Rather got booted.
Mapes: Bill in journalism there have been many times that journalists have gone with a story where they can’t prove with DNA testing(?)… There are plenty of people who believe that we crossed the bar proving it. (?)
O’Reilly: You heard me interview President Bush who said, “I didn’t do anything to get preferential treatment.” Do you believe him? Is that man lying?
Mapes: I think, you know, he’s got that selective memory. I think he got preferential treatment. Clearly, I do. And, I think it’s very clear that he did.
O’Reilly: But he believes he didn’t.
Mapes: Do you believe that he believes that?
O’Reilly: Yes. I believe that he didn’t get preferential treatment just as you believe…
Mapes: (chuckle) Well now I’m scared… I think that president Bush thinks he had a very typical Vietnam experience. That’s because he was unaware of what the country was like and life was like for most other people. I know from looking at the documents and his history that he did not have a typical Vietnam experience.
O’Reilly: Why has CBS gone after you with such a vengeance?
Mapes: I think that CBS caved to a conservative blog attack. You’ve talked about what the internet is capable of doing when it swarms somebody. People were panicked like I’d never seen them before. Because people could send 15,000 emails to a Witchita Falls, Texas TV station demanding Dan’s resignation. I think it scared them to death. And, I think at the end of the day financial matters really do resonate with this corporation…
Bill O’Reilly did a good job in the interview overall, but he really needs to start looking at blogs. His reporting is handicapped because of it. He could have asked questions like these if he were more aware of the Rathergate story, which he isn’t:
1.) What is the latest on Lucy Ramirez? Have you spoken with her? How is she doing? Did she make it through Hurricane Rita OK?
2.) Do you still keep in contact with Democrat Joe Lockhart? And does he or other Democrats still get tips from CBS producers on juicy Bush reports that are about to air?
4.) How would you describe the process of “proportionally spacing font”? How would you describe “variable type”? How would you explain these characteristics in a 1970’s memo?
5.) Did young Lt. Bush volunteer to go to Vietnam? Then explain your statements on page 61 of the CBS Followup Report where you say that you knew way back that Lt. Bush had volunteered for Vietnam.
Mary Mapes still suffers from what Charles Krauthammer calls “false consciousness” which can in Mapes’ situation can be fatal, for a career anyway.
Update: (11-11-05) Political Teen has the interview up this morning as well.
The Paragraph Farmer speaks highly of Lucy Ramirez.
Update 2: California Conservative has another interview by Bill O’Reilly that has San Francisco up in arms… scratch that, they just voted against bearing arms, but they are upset.